/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18906160]

>be me
>at uni, start of semester
>In tutorial, doing gay 20 questions meet and greet that everyone hates
>Talking to the guy next to me
>I like to read, says he
>What is your favourite booke, says me
>metamorphosis
>oh cool I like kafka too (I don't particularly), I wish his other works got more recognition blah blah blah-
>Who's kafka?
>Franz kafka, the guy who wrote the metamorphosis
>Franz, like the guy who started WW!? Nah, this book was written by some ancient greek dude named ovid
>... you mean metamorphoses?
>What? why are you saying it like that, it's metamorphosis
>I look at him like he's a retard
>he looks at me like I'm a retard
>both turn and start talking to different people
>never interract again

Similar /lit/ experiences?

[Anonymous No.18906192]

>>18906160
Kek that guy dropped a patrician choice and you started rambling about fucking Kafka. Of course he doesn't respect you

[Anonymous No.18906216]

>>18906160
The true villain here is the anglo publisher who decided to name it "Metamorphosis".

>>18906192
>respect
Why would anyone want respect from someone who thinks Ovid was "some ancient greek dude"?

[Anonymous No.18906224]

>>18906160
Op you dummy, you put WW! instead of WW1.

[Anonymous No.18906240]

>>18906224
This conversation took place in 1929.

[Anonymous No.18906252]

>>18906192
>>18906216
This

[Anonymous No.18906254]

>>18906160
>anon fails to form a connection, Part MMCCXXXIV

[Anonymous No.18906267]

>>18906254
You'll be suprised to know that the person I started talikng to immediately afterwards was a female (girl). This initial interraction grew into a protracted series of interractions, meaning that I did in fact form a connection, bub.

[Anonymous No.18906278]

>>18906160
>I look at him like he's a retard
>he looks at me like I'm a retard
and nobody was wrong on that day

[Anonymous No.18906354]

>>18906267
Well done, I’m proud of you

[Anonymous No.18907152]

>>18906160

>be me
>online uni classes
>talk to a girl
>we are working toghether on some shit home work
>So you read? I ask
>Yes I love reading while listening to the rain and drinking piss
>disappointedpepe.jpg
>What are you favourite books anon?
>Oh I love the ancient classics. What about you?
>I read about feminism and revisionist /his
>Conversation uncomfortably ends
>Never talked about fucking books with anyone since then

[Anonymous No.18907580]

>>18907152
Haha get fucked

[Anonymous No.18907659]

>>18906160
You have talent for writing dialogue.

[Anonymous No.18907751]

>>18906160
> In a class called "Philosophy of Anthropology", whatever the fuck that is.
> Teacher is a shithead mudslim with no permanency coming from UoT because he's under investigation there for putting his self-published book on the mandatory reading list.
> Class is made mostly of students from other programs than Phi, mostly Sociology and Cultural Studies, can't stand the fucking lot of them, zone out most of the time.
> Zone in at some point, catches the teacher saying "... and this is why the very concept of slavery goes against the kantian categorical imperative, which in turn explains why it cannot sustain itself as an economic system for any long amount of time."
> Blurt out "But that seems to go against the evidence that slavery was a concrete part of the economic activity of a very large number of ancient and even recent civilizations."
> The teacher says he doesn't think so, that I'm mistaken, we exchange a bit.
> Some fucking random zoomer student literally interrupts me to tell me, in front of the entire class, that if I think this way, I am not welcome in this university and these classes.
> I'm fucking speechless.
> Look around the class, literally everyone is giving me the evil eye.
> Don't say a word for the rest of the semester, don't read the syllabus, it's mostly Freud anyways, get A at the end.

[Anonymous No.18907784]

>>18907751
>"But that seems to go against the evidence that slavery was a concrete part of the economic activity of a very large number of ancient and even recent civilizations."
>get A at the end.
Based anon

That is happening in unis of the whole western civilization. It is full of fuckers like the teacher or the zoomer that wronged you; doing a "moral correction" of the others, without understanding the idea of "tolerance", by considering anything different besides their opinion as a insult or evil idea.

>>18907580
no

[Anonymous No.18907971]

>>18907751
Should have reminded him that the barbary slave trade is still a vital part of society in his arab hell-home.

[Anonymous No.18908030]

>hey anon what book do you have there
>moby-dick
>never heard of him, is he any good?

[Anonymous No.18908084]

>>18907152
mmm pee

[Anonymous No.18908098]

>>18906160
>Similar /lit/ experiences?

[Anonymous No.18908105]

>>18906216
>Why would anyone want respect from someone who thinks Ovid was "some ancient greek dude"?
He probably described it like that because they are talking informally and maybe he assumed OP was an uncultured normie, how else would you explain it to a pleb? Sperg out and speak of Ovid as someone who everyone knows and be outed as a werido or call him "some ancient greek dude".

Anyways tldr OP is pleb

[Anonymous No.18908111]

[Anonymous No.18908118]

>>18907751
This whole thread gives me the feels. I'm a liberal arts student at a large public school in the Midwest. Things here are comparatively great, but people are still very cucked. It is difficult to imagine how I will manage to survive the next 5 years in this worsening climate. 4chan better be the next literary/intellectual city.

[Anonymous No.18908121]

[Anonymous No.18908124]

>>18908105
Ovid was Roman and wrote in Latin.

[Anonymous No.18908129]

>>18908105
Why would he intentially mischaracterize him as Greek though? He could've just as easily said "some ancient Roman dude" to the same effect.

[Anonymous No.18908134]

>girl asks me what my favorite book is
>Satyricon
>she asks me what that is
>tell her it's an ancient Roman text, but unlike The Odyssey or The Iliad it isn't about war or any of that toxic masculinity stuff. It's more romantic.
>she sounds intrigued and says she'll check it out
>mfw the next day she accuses me of ticking her into reading child pornography

[Anonymous No.18908135]

>>18908111
Based Irish Busdriver ridicules dumb Yank pseud

[Anonymous No.18908148]

>>18908134
Next you should tell her about Nabokov's great contribution to the western canon

[Anonymous No.18908161]

>>18906160
Ovid erotic poems are better

[Anonymous No.18908163]

>>18908148
nah, Lolita is too tame. The only people who think it's graphic haven't read it.

[Anonymous No.18908212]

>>18908098

[Anonymous No.18908221]

>>18907784
I think the teacher didn't try to correct me in an SJW fashion, and desu, the core of my issue was less with the idea that slavery might be an unstable system (I don't think it is, but I haven't thought enough about it either), and more about the idea that the categorical imperative is some kind of sociological law that was relevant at all. His entire class felt very "train of thought", and this just struck me as an extreme such moment that I had to comment.
My classmates however were much less understanding. Going back over what I said, nothing could have been construed as a support of slavery, or even as a moral or ethical judgement on it. Simply that the claim that slavery is unstable because it goes against everyone's moral imperative seems at odds with the evidence that slavery was a fairly commonplace practice.
>>18907971
>Should have reminded him that the barbary slave trade is still a vital part of society in his arab hell-home.
I actually did mention it, although along the slave practices of the Aztecs, Chinese and Greeks.

[Anonymous No.18908233]

at least he reads, you should have kept talking to him OP.

>get roped into a group reading of The Wasteland in some dorm common room
>mispronounce hyacinths as hykaninths because i've never thought about it in my life
>drop trou, shit to create a distraction, and quickly escape

[Anonymous No.18908252]

>>18907751
How does the Kantian ethical idea have any bearing on amoral economic activity?

[Anonymous No.18908256]

>>18908233
Nice save

[Anonymous No.18908263]

Well i got mocked so hard for pronouncing the Ls in “Baudrillard” that I never got to mention the point I was trying to make.

[Anonymous No.18908284]

>>18908221
The exchange between you and the professor is interesting. Could you greentext the whole experience?

[Anonymous No.18908287]

>>18906160
>volunteering at the public library over the summer in high school because my parents said i couldn't just sit on my ass
>placed under the supervision of some intern getting his MLIS degree
>they have nothing for me to do at all
>make me just go through the shelves and dvds to find misplaced books
>one day find an o. henry collection with the author mislabeled as "OHenry" on the spine and placed with the Os
>go take it to mr. master of library science in his office
>this book needs a new sticker, it says ohenry instead of henry
>what do you mean anon?
>the name is wrong
>well, let's see
>he stares at the cover, which plainly says "O. Henry" on it for a solid minute
>i guess it could be that the O is an initial, i'll look into it anon
>this guy is getting a graduate degree so he can handle books for a living and he doesn't know who o. henry is

[Anonymous No.18908314]

>>18908252
It does not. That was what I wanted to point out. As I said I was mostly zoned out, but from what I recall, he was mostly saying that slavery, like lying, goes against the categorical imperative, which he seemingly reifed as a sociological axiom. I guess I could have just said "isn't that reifying the categorical imperative?" and avoided the whole thing...
It;s my fault really, the second I signed up to a class called Philosophy of Anthropology, I should have known the teacher wouldn't have a properly defined subject, but the course was bullshit beyond any possible belief. He spent half the session on Freud and the other half on Marx.
Everyone had told me it was easy grades (and it was), and that was the session I took the Husserl course, so I wanted to make sure I had some easy course along the hard one.

[Anonymous No.18908321]

someone post the opal deception greentext RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.18908421]

>>18908284
It doesn't go much longer than that, let's see...
> In a class called "Philosophy of Anthropology", whatever the fuck that is.
> Teacher is a shithead mudslim with no permanency coming from UoT because he's under investigation there for putting his self-published book on the mandatory reading list (at least that is the rumour, and I spoke to one teacher at UoT who was a friend of my mom and all but confirmed it)
>Class is made mostly of students from other programs than Phi, mostly Sociology and Cultural Studies, can't stand the fucking lot of them, zone out most of the time.
> Zone in at some point, catches the teacher saying "... and this is why the very concept of slavery goes against the kantian categorical imperative, which in turn explains why it cannot sustain itself as an economic system for any long amount of time."
> Blurt out "But that seems to go against the evidence that slavery was a concrete part of the economic activity of a very large number of ancient and even recent civilizations."
> He replies, slavery causes too much ideological stress within a society, by the sheer evidence of the moral contradiction it embodies, which leads to both the master and the slave's faith in it being weakened. This would cause any system containing elements of slavery to break down in time.
> Me (more or less) But everything breaks down in time, I need more than a moral imperative to justify the claim that slavery is unstable. I even need some sort of evidence that slavery is unstable, given it was practiced worlwide, beside by the European in modern times, by the Arabs, the Chinese and the Mongols and the Azteks. I know there is a large moral literature by Americans contemporary to slavery, and perhaps in that specific case, the end of slavery was born out of the moral conflict exposed, but even that remains to be seen...
> Some fucking random zoomer student literally interrupts me to tell me, in front of the entire class, that if I think this way, I am not welcome in this university and these classes.
> I'm fucking speechless.
> Look around the class, literally everyone is giving me the evil eye.
> Teacher looks a bit awkward, says we need to move along and get back to the material.

[Anonymous No.18908436]

>>18908421
>by the sheer evidence of the moral contradiction it embodies
sheer evidence which nobody in the world noticed between the stoics and the quakers

[Anonymous No.18908464]

>>18908436
I mean, you have Aristotle, and Republican moralists and Democratic elitists both wrote about how it was bad, but for white folks, really, decades before the Civil War. But I don't know that they put it in a specifically kantian way...
And in the balance of things, theirs wasn't the opinion that mattered anyways.

[Anonymous No.18908472]

Some stories here are so well written and structured that they can't have happen for real.

[Anonymous No.18908482]

>>18908421
you deserve no friends and awkward experiences only due to the fact that the teacher saved you further embarrassment AND gave you an A (which means he was willing to accept coherent views and opinions even if he disagrees with them) and you call him a shithead mudslim behind his back

[Anonymous No.18908508]

>>18908482
>that the teacher saved you further embarrassment
He didn't do shit except dodge the conversation, either mine or the shithead zoomer.
>gave you an A
He likely didn't correct it himself, but even if he did, we signed our papers and exams only by our student number, so as to avoid preferential treatment.

[Anonymous No.18908538]

>>18908421
>>teacher is a shithead mudslim
>is the only rational, non-autistic party in this entire scenario
Both you and the zoomer can suck my dick, no wonder nobody likes you.

[Anonymous No.18908576]

>>18906160
>be me
>at uni, start of semester
>In tutorial, doing gay
Same

[Anonymous No.18908583]

>>18908576
based

[Anonymous No.18908623]

>>18906160
I was expecting the Metamorphosis/Metamorphoses play, but the Franz Kafka/Franz Ferdinand thing made me laugh. Nice short story, OP.