/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18867400]

Are there any hip relatively young fiction writers out there I can get excited about? Is there anybody out there with their finger on the pulse?

[Anonymous No.18867402]

>>18867400
Joshua Cohen. Read Book of Numbers.

[Anonymous No.18867426]

>>18867402
IDK, maybe. seems like it has potential

[Anonymous No.18867459]

>>18867400
Get excited about yourself. You're the next big thing!

[Anonymous No.18867472]

>>18867400
yeah

your fucking mom bitch

[Anonymous No.18867498]

>>18867402
NO one's falling for it, Josh. Everyone knows you had Dalkey publish Witz for the street cred. Those copies are PRISTINE.

[Anonymous No.18867521]

I want someone like Houellebecq, but better

[Anonymous No.18867536]

>>18867400
tao lin

leave society - on kindle and paperback today

[Anonymous No.18867540]

Youre asking in the wrong place, if you want to know what a bunch of conformist political tourist redditors from here think is shit hot you'll just get a bunch of dry mediocre novels from 200 years ago. But in terms of an actual answer honestly there's probably nothing and i make sure to read as much new stuff as I can. Most books feel pretty dated at the moment and almost exclusively focus on the second half of the 20th century. Even the ones written by millennials who barely lived in it. Or you'll get some upper middle class tit who just writes about how great X capital is to live in and you'll get some autobiographical account of how they spent their 20s and every buzzword and hot topic will be thrown in to look like an intellectual. Idk I read I hate the internet and that was okay and felt vaguely modern in a kind of more than half a decade ago sort of way. I mean it acknowledged the internet existed that's always a start.

[Anonymous No.18867541]

>>18867400
If only Yung Lean started writing.

[Anonymous No.18867550]

>>18867536
is this some kind of meme ort is he legit?

[Anonymous No.18867564]

>>18867540
>Youre asking in the wrong place
where is the right place

[Anonymous No.18867582]

>>18867564
If I knew I wouldn't be here. Maybe try somewhere off the internet, that's my plan personally.

[Anonymous No.18867587]

>>18867550
he's legit

[Anonymous No.18867590]

>>18867564
Your local public library

[Anonymous No.18867592]

>>18867400
None in English. Nobody is interested in becoming or publishing good Western authors. It’s just Song of Achilles shit from here on out. I guess the bright side is there probably is a young female author out there who is really pretty decent but gets no attention.

[Anonymous No.18867602]

>>18867592
All contemporary writing talent has been devoted to popular copypastas.

[Anonymous No.18867603]

>>18867592
Publishing atm feels like 90% female authors in the last ten years so yeah it's pretty likely.I think maybe you might see something big come out of nowhere, you never know.

[Anonymous No.18867687]

Mike Ma
Delicious Tacos
Logo Daedalus
F. Gardener
R.C. Waldun
Quentin Scobie
Bronze Age Pervert
Me

[Anonymous No.18867720]

>>18867400
Nathan Hill
Ocean Vuong
Sally Rooney

[Anonymous No.18867724]

>>18867720
give me more than just a name you pseud

[Anonymous No.18867742]

>>18867536
he's almost 40

[Anonymous No.18867745]

[Anonymous No.18867752]

>>18867724
>Nathan Hill
The Nix is an American epic novel in 10 parts that follows community college professor of English, Samuel Andresen-Anderson who is struggling to find meaning in his life in the years following his failure to write a book which he was already paid an advance for.
>Sally Rooney
Normal People follows the complex friendship and relationship between two teenagers, Connell and Marianne, who both attend the same secondary school in County Sligo, Ireland and, later, Trinity College Dublin (TCD). It is set during the post-2008 Irish economic downturn, spanning from 2011 through 2015.[4] Connell is a popular, handsome, and highly intelligent secondary school student who begins a relationship with the unpopular, intimidating yet equally intelligent Marianne, whose mother employs Connell's mother as a cleaner. Connell keeps the affair a secret from school friends out of shame, but ends up attending Trinity with Marianne after the summer and reconciling. Well-off Marianne blossoms at university, becoming pretty and popular, while Connell struggles for the first time in his life to fit in properly with his peers. The pair weave in and out of each other's lives across their university years, developing an intense bond that brings to light the traumas and insecurities that make them both who they are.
>Ocean Vuong
On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous is the debut novel by Vietnamese-American poet Ocean Vuong, published by Penguin Press on June 4, 2019. An epistolary novel, it is written in the form of a letter from a Vietnamese American son to his illiterate mother.

[Anonymous No.18867763]

>>18867752
those all seem kinda gay ngl

[Anonymous No.18867766]

>>18867752
>it is written in the form of a letter from a Vietnamese American son to his illiterate mother.
so how the fuck is she going to read it

[Anonymous No.18867770]

>>18867742
and he's still very handsome

[Anonymous No.18867772]

>>18867766
she couldn't. that was the point, he hated his abusive mother and wanted to get back at her by taunting her with wealth/success that she couldn't understand.

[Anonymous No.18867775]

>>18867592
>young female author out there who is really pretty decent
Sheridan Hay

[Anonymous No.18867939]

>>18867426
>has to look him up to figure out that a guy named Joshua Cohen is Jewish
Anti-semites aren't known for being smart

[Anonymous No.18868060]

>>18867400
Every young person with even an ounce of talent is making YouTube videos, not writing books no one will ever read.

[Anonymous No.18868124]

>>18867400
are there ANY intellectuals worth paying attention to? people who will be influential centuries from now?

[Anonymous No.18868139]

>>18868060

And that is wrong.

[Anonymous No.18868295]

>>18867400
Houellebecq is #1 right now. Only allowed to be published because his works are inherently defeatist and nihilistic.

>>18867592
Publishers won't touch timely fiction that might stir the masses.

[Anonymous No.18868323]

>>18868295
Yeah I'm reading The Elementary Particles right now actually. I want more modern stuff like his. I'll stick with him for now, what should I read next?

[Anonymous No.18868418]

>>18868323
I don't know but I'm curious: does this kind of story appeal to you? https://woland.substack.com/p/01

[Anonymous No.18868432]

>>18867939
Hey man what if it was on his fathers side

[Anonymous No.18868440]

>>18868418
No, that's really bad.

[Anonymous No.18868458]

>>18868440
Too on the nose?

[Anonymous No.18868483]

>>18867400
How bad is it for young poets? All the editors seem to be women so I know I'll have a hard time. I know German pretty decently, should I just right in that? I think there is some benefit in writing in a language other than English to get away from all this shit that goes on in the publishing world. Or is it the same deal there too?

[Anonymous No.18868559]

>>18868060
If you think there's any talent required for you tube you don't know what good writers are doing.

[Anonymous No.18868576]

>>18867763
See and heres the reactionary, maybe just stick to moby dick and infinite jest and call it a day. Not the guy you're responding to but if you're going to be that narrow there's no hope. I'm not a fan of Sally rooney personally but at least try.

[Anonymous No.18868589]

>>18868483
Poetry isn't exactly a booming industry in any part of the western world id focus on that before anything else. Honestly if you want to write poetry you should just write poetry because you're not going to have an easy time of it anywhere. it's easily the art form with the lowest demand, unfortunately or fortunately I guess depending on who you are.

[Anonymous No.18868642]

>>18867400
me

[Anonymous No.18869139]

>>18867541
DG are some of the only god tier modern art

[Anonymous No.18869926]

>>18868642
>me

[Anonymous No.18869934]

He's the modern, good, Pynchon, but nobody here reads him.
How do we solve the le wrong generation issue which plagues this board?

[Anonymous No.18869961]

>>18867400
Ling Ma's only put out one book so far but it's definitely prescient as fuck

[Anonymous No.18869974]

>>18869934
name?

[Anonymous No.18869983]

>>18867590
They would probably just hand you the latest LGBTQIA+ coming of age YA story written from the perspective of a plus-sized queen of color

[Anonymous No.18869985]

>>18869974
David Keenan, has a new one out now

[Anonymous No.18869988]

>>18868060
Yeah agreed, just look at our esteemed Waldun

[Anonymous No.18869997]

>>18868432
The book is called "Book of Numbers" which is a book in the Old Testament. It couldn't be anymore obvious.

[Anonymous No.18870035]

>>18869985
ok will read

[Anonymous No.18870073]

>>18867772
I know you can't judge a book through its premise alone but damn that sounds insufferable. I can already imagine pages after pages of being condescending towards his old country, while praising America's modernity. Feel free to educate me though, that's just my initial impression going off your description.

[Anonymous No.18870095]

>>18870073
>The novel is written in the form of a letter by a youngVietnamese Americannicknamed Little Dog, whose life mirrors that of Ocean Vuong. The letter is written to Little Dog's mother Hong, more often called or translated as Rose (hồng). The novel has anonlinear narrativestructure.[2]

The novel also recounts the life of Little Dog's grandmother, Lan, who escapes an arranged marriage during theVietnam Warand becomes aprostitute. She marries a white American soldier and gives birth to a child, although the father of the child is another man, as Lan was four months pregnant when she met the man who would become her husband. The child is Little Dog's mother, Rose. She is barely literate, having left school at the age of five when her schoolhouse in Vietnam collapsed during an Americannapalmraid. She suffers fromposttraumatic stress disorderas a result. Rose marries an abusive man but eventually separates from him.

Working in anail salon, she struggles as a single parent living inHartford, Connecticutwith her son and her mother Lan. Living in America as refugees, the three can barely speak English. Little Dog, who is gay, is abused by his mother throughout his childhood. Halfway through the novel, Little Dog meets a young white man named Trevor while working on a tobacco farm one summer, and the two begin a romantic relationship. Trevor eventually becomesaddicted to opioidsand later overdoses and dies.
Forget it, sounds like actual garbage and stereotypically something a Vietnamese would write

[Anonymous No.18870097]

>>18869934
Pynch sucks and everyone knows it. He can't write characters.

[Anonymous No.18870104]

>>18868576
No, they just aren't good enough, it has nothing to do with narrow mindedness. Good writing is transcendent. I'm not going to lower my standards.

[Anonymous No.18870114]

>>18868295
It has little to do with stirring the masses or not the stirring the masses I think. It’s a business. They’ve successfully productized literature, streamlined the process, and tapped out the market. The only place left to grow from genre mania (work categorization) is author categorization. The money to be made is largely not in selling good stories but selling the next big black female authors that the mindless managerial horde will use to line their bookcases and parade around reading groups at work, regardless of how absolutely dogshit the writing and storytelling is. Song of Achilles is one of the most celebrated stories in recent memory but it is literally fan fiction and is only popular because it’s written by a woman and appropriates the hero as LGBT. This is how it is. At the same time, you have a totally uninspired world. Let’s face it. Reality is not only ugly, but fucking boring. Those days where Conrad’s experiences in Africa inspired his novel or Melville’s mutiny inspired his? Long gone. Totally unattainable. What’s there to write about really, besides highly personal ramblings or cultural misanthropy (why Houllebecq is so popular)? Nothing. At best you can constantly dig up the past and appropriate it. Would-be good authors don’t seem to want to do that because they’ve been brainwashed into living modernism and realism so they don’t. And this is the pile of steaming dung we’re left with as a result.

[Anonymous No.18870123]

>>18868483
Personally, I have a strong conviction that people who can write in languages other than English should. But as for poetry specifically, it’s not in a good a state. Literature broadly has become largely untenable. It wasn’t even that long ago that there was a booming short story industry where even amateur authors could publish short stories with relative ease and make a bit of money to fund their writing. Not so these days. Poetry is in even more dire straights. I suppose fortunately for you, German is (in my opinion) one of the better languages a Westerner could be trying to write in. If you’re looking for something that’s different from the norm here in America, England, Scandinavia, and even France to a large degree, Germany is one of your better bets.

[Anonymous No.18870131]

>>18869985
His Wiki entry makes him sound like just another wannabe American beatnik hipster.

[Anonymous No.18870133]

>>18870114
there will always come a synthesis, just wait.

[Anonymous No.18870155]

Sadly, Houellebecq and a possible Pynch post-humous release are all we have to look forward to

Why? Well it’s because they identify people who use intelligent speech patterns on the internet and microwave their brains with DEWs as they sleep + vaccines target high potential geniuses (people who’d be slightly on the spectrum) and make them debilitatingly autistic. Hope that helps

[Anonymous No.18870161]

>>18870131
yes, go ahead and judge him not on the basis of his work but his wikipedia article

[Anonymous No.18870174]

>>18870155
>Sadly, Houellebecq and a possible Pynch post-humous release are all we have to look forward to
anyone who writes shit like this has 1) no idea what they’re talking about and 2) no serious interest in literature and can be safely disregarded

[Anonymous No.18870219]

>>18870131
Here's a review of his latest.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/aug/07/monument-maker-by-david-keenan-review-an-experimental-compendium
You'd think ambitious, difficult, Pynchon/Joyce stuff like this would be right in the comfort zone of most of /lit/, and if it was published by Vintage Classics it probably would be.

[Anonymous No.18870225]

>>18870133
I disagree. I think literature is in dire straits and little can be done about it. The very soil that it grows out of has been spoiled and there will be no synthesis.

[Anonymous No.18870228]

>>18868458
No, it's just paranoid and stupid.

[Anonymous No.18870289]

>>18870225
are you crazy? you think the world is over and people will stop writing? just wait.

[Anonymous No.18870298]

>>18870174
Name two writers which are better right now : )

[Anonymous No.18870345]

>>18870289
I didn’t say the world is ending. I just the soil that literature, good literature, needs to grow out of, is largely dead. You see the same thing across all arts really, but by nature, the visual arts are more expressive and visual (obviously) so they can capture at the very least a feeling of malnutrition and incoherency better than written arts can. I believe both art and literature are like flowers that grow out of the real world but something has happened over the last few hundred years that has left things feeling very choked off and uninspired in the real world, even in retrospect and through the lens of nostalgia. I don’t think that’s just going to disappear.

[Anonymous No.18870362]

I will be in five years, give me time to practice and get better.

[Anonymous No.18870368]

>>18870345
you have a fundamental misunderstanding of people and art.

[Anonymous No.18870373]

>>18867400
Waldun

[Anonymous No.18870391]

Ottessa Moshfegh

[Anonymous No.18870395]

What pulse? Everything is dead

[Anonymous No.18870450]

>>18870395
don't you quit on me dammit!

[Anonymous No.18870453]

>>18870395
>>18870345
>>18870225
>>18870155
>>18870123
>>18870114
>>18870104
>>18869139
>>18868124
>>18867592

[Anonymous No.18870454]

>>18870133
>>18870289
>>18870368
based and I agree with you

[Anonymous No.18870461]

>>18867459

[Anonymous No.18870485]

>>18870373
I want to fuck him

[Anonymous No.18870509]

Now, more than ever, a new paradigm is essential.

[Anonymous No.18870536]

>>18870509
paradigm-essentialism?

[Anonymous No.18870547]

everyone always says Tao Lin but i've yet to see an actual REASON why

[Anonymous No.18870553]

>>18870298
>>18870174
>no response
Yeah about what I expected

[Anonymous No.18870574]

>>18867540
The current times are so fucked even millenials and zoomers don't want to write things in a contemporary setting? Or else it's self-obsessed rambling? And you're too dense to take your own observations and put 2 and 2 together?

[Anonymous No.18870576]

>>18870553
kevin power, blake butler, brad phillips, jon lindsey and garielle lutz have all put out books recently that are way better than anything ”pynch” and especially wellbeck have mustered in years, though i’ll admit that BE is P’s most underrated work. happy reading!

[Anonymous No.18870582]

>>18869997
It's actually his least Jewish novel.

[Anonymous No.18870628]

>>18867402
seems like it sucks

[Anonymous No.18870641]

>>18870547
reading him now and cant shake the feeling he's trying really hard to rip off DFW in his prose style

>>18870576
thanks for the recs

[Anonymous No.18870649]

>>18867400

https://www.cpt-415.com/

[Anonymous No.18870659]

>>18870574
what kind of contemporary setting do you expect

[Anonymous No.18870676]

>>18870649
>https://www.cpt-415.com/
what the fuck is this

[Anonymous No.18870720]

>>18870298
McCarthy has three books lined up but don't know when they will release.
I am reading Melancholy of resistance rn and Krasznahorkai seems a good active writer, so him.
I don't consider either Houellebecq or Pynchon good btw.

[Anonymous No.18870754]

What are the markings of the kind of 'new classic' you would expect?

[Anonymous No.18870841]

>>18867400
I enjoyed Lauren Oyler’s debut and Patricia Lockwood’s recent novel. Early Work by Andrew Martin I also really dug.

[Anonymous No.18870850]

>>18870841
>Lauren
>Patricia
Please be serious here

[Anonymous No.18870855]

I just can't imagine a woman writing anything of value. I know that probably makes me a bigot but I don't care.
I tried reading Normal People for like 5 minutes and it was enough to make me want to go full Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.18870911]

>>18867752
>The Kex
>Normal Pepe
>On Earth We're Briefly Wojaks
cool list

[Anonymous No.18871122]

>>18870509
We've got 49 years to wait for the next paradigm shift.

[Anonymous No.18871146]

>>18871122
anon if i have to wait 49 years for the likes of normal people to not be in vogue then i will personally bring this whole institution burning to the fucking ground

[Anonymous No.18871155]

>>18871146
You ever thought about joining the Taliban? In Minecraft, obviously.

[Anonymous No.18871165]

>>18871155
i dunno
maybe if they make cool zines
if they dont make cool zines then forget it

[Anonymous No.18871195]

>>18871165
I bet even if they don't you could probably get on it. Be the change you want to see in the world.

[Anonymous No.18871202]

>>18868124
yuk hui

[Anonymous No.18871212]

>>18871202
why do none of you fucking people ever elaborate. write a complete sentence at least fuck

[Anonymous No.18871216]

>>18871212
yucky

[Anonymous No.18871240]

>>18870114
literature, like film, poetry (gift cards), photography, sculpture and really every form of art have now been entirely (90%) territorialized by capital. gone are the days where art could be understood as unalienated and creative labour. the totalitarian (all subsuming) capitalism of the internet age has applied the alienating division of labour and the standardization of products to art. art now is only a worker making a pin to be put into a chair they’ll never sit on, but in book form. It is as adam smith predicated, making us all fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.18871254]

>>18871212
google yuk hui. you want bleeding edge but you cant even google a six letter name

[Anonymous No.18871255]

>>18871240
ur tryin to sound smart but ur just another faggy defeatist
notice how u never mentioned music because deep down u know ur full of shit. music has been revitalized by the internet and released from its capitalist shackles.

[Anonymous No.18871268]

>>18871255
music was one of the first art forms to be territorialized. the cutting edge now is more of the same shit the past did (but in your local scene this time!) or the same independent dialectic of pop acting out or at best its an acc-fag hyperpop/PC music jerk off sesh

[Anonymous No.18871279]

>>18871268
ur totally wrong by the way and i bet u never even fucking downloaded something from bandcamp or any of the new black metal bands
also fuck off with that D&G shit. ur not smart ur just another regurgitant. really pathetic u are

[Anonymous No.18871283]

>>18871254
I can google just fine you condescending fuck. I want to hear from (You). Why can't (You) comprehend that? I am here for a reason and its not to be fed google reviews. god dammit FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.18871285]

>>18870453
All videos with this kind of title are just clickbait where the retard on camera says "NO IT HAS NOT GONE BAD! YOU ARE JUST A BIGOT WHO DOESN'T LIKE (GARBAGE) AND DIDN'T LOOK HARD ENOUGH" so I assume this child is doing the same. You are not allowed to say anything on social media that isn't optimistic posturing

[Anonymous No.18871298]

>>18871279
>any of the new black metal bands
you just have bad taste. black metal is generic reddit shit, always has been always will be.
> also fuck off with that D&G shit
most relevant and accurate way to describe the activities of capital, why shouldn’t I use it? you just blow

[Anonymous No.18871302]

>>18871240
>gone are the days where art could be understood as unalienated and creative labour
Those days never existed, or if they did, they are still here and you just have to look harder.

[Anonymous No.18871316]

>>18871298
u start off with a theory and try to sound smart by applying it to shit when it no longer applies
now watch how u take the one example i gave and use it as a strawman, 100% predictable behavior by an insecure empty head like yourself
u never listened to black metal a day in ur life and even putting that genre aside bandcamp and soundcloud are full of new inventive artists that u never heard, principally cos u spend all ur hours on here pretending to be an intellectual by regurigtating muh thousand plateaus or letting ur boyfriend cum in ur arse
really i wish ppl like u would fucking swallow a bullet
u havent had a single original thought in ur pathetic life yet accuse entire industries of being devoid of originality
classic lad. just classic

[Anonymous No.18871328]

>>18871316
link that shit then

[Anonymous No.18871335]

>>18871328
pearls before swine friend
i know a trap when i smell one
ull scan through one track then come back to loudly declare victory over me
not a chance in hell.

[Anonymous No.18871356]

>>18871328
O father O satan O sun

[Anonymous No.18871362]

>>18871335
this better not be pseudo-edgy mike ma ‘ahh trannies!!1!1’ shit

[Anonymous No.18871365]

>>18871316
Not him but black metal is fucking terrible
I had a black metal phase and I played some of that shit around 15 which I assume is close to your age

[Anonymous No.18871370]

>>18871356
based
>>18871365
cronge

[Anonymous No.18871433]

>>18867400
no, the world is spiritually and intellectually bankrupt and everything is shit

[Anonymous No.18871444]

>>18871433
i notice it's always the turds who say this the most and the loudest
what did u create in ur life besides dirty dishes

[Anonymous No.18871455]

>>18871444
what did i just say?

[Anonymous No.18871460]

>>18871455
i dunno mate all i heard was the sound of two big fanny lips flapping and i went all zen for a bit

[Anonymous No.18871475]

>>18870368
If you say so

>>18870453
Correct but Unironically

>>18871240
I think the attempt to view everything through the lens of capital and/or labor is ironically, a symptom of the very thing it’s trying (but failing) to critique.

[Anonymous No.18871708]

>>18871240
>ahh it was commodified because someone can make money off it
You're a deluded idiot.

[Anonymous No.18871730]

>>18871433
Maybe if you wasn't a spaz and tried to be good at something you wouldn't be such a downer loser.

[Anonymous No.18871975]

I had no idea lit was filled with so many boring nazi shits who just like sperging out with their purple prose about how degenerate art is. Do you dull fucks actually enjoy reading. Why the fuck are you even here.

[Anonymous No.18871996]

>>18867536
nice one tao

I'm reading your book right now and it's giving me anxiety

[Anonymous No.18872004]

taolin is a fucking fraud
literally surface level emotion and cliched tropes like muh city loneliness muh rain muh awkard relationship
theres nothing of value in there and his prose style is clearly just low rent DFW
that shit where he uses noun+'-'+y as adjectives was just the last straw for me
'soil-y' 'staticky'

if he wasnt a chink no one would care about his ass

[Anonymous No.18872022]

>>18871975
Books only work as character armour if you stick to established classics with overwhelming endorsement from authority.
If you rely on your own taste, you might like the wrong thing, which would make it hard to maintain your sense of superiority

[Anonymous No.18872048]

>>18867521
Delicious Tacos is like Houellebecq, but not as good. Probably won't find anyone better.

[Anonymous No.18872090]

>>18872048
die.
he writes like a retard and says nothing of value.
muh sex muh funny encounter

[Anonymous No.18872183]

>>18871240
It doesn't get more commodified than old Hollywood, and yet they are primarily responsible for turning film from the VR of its day to a real art form, creating some of the greatest cinema we've ever seen. Compare Marvel with a good Howard Hawks movie. It's not the money that's the issue.

[Anonymous No.18872327]

>>18871475
>If you say so
I do, and I'm right.

[Anonymous No.18872446]

Modern writers are bores who are afraid of cancel culture or they just flat out get filtered by publishing agents. It's so fucking awful to read a text which is written to pre-existing mold, where there are certain rules you have to cater for.

[Anonymous No.18872503]

>>18872327
>>18870345
What's his mistake? Minus the thing about visual arts being better suited for the age, that all strikes me as being obviously true.

[Anonymous No.18872581]

>>18872503
> I just the soil that literature, good literature, needs to grow out of, is largely dead. You see the same thing across all arts really, but by nature, the visual arts are more expressive and visual (obviously) so they can capture at the very least a feeling of malnutrition and incoherency better than written arts can.
all of this is baseless and wrong. IF you are going to say something so retarded you need to provide some kind of evidence.

[Anonymous No.18872627]

>>18872581
He has no evidence simply because he doesn't read or write. He has long since given up, and pushed his sorrows onto the world's shoulders to carry.
His trite, empty arguments are just ways of making himself feel better about his life, which has gone nowhere.
I smell these rotten souls like an upturned grave; they haunt every corner of this board, moaning and lamenting their spent lives, yet they would have you believe everything else is dead and they still living.

[Anonymous No.18872636]

>>18867400
>hip relatively young fiction write
>hip
do you mean sjw and trannies?

[Anonymous No.18872647]

>>18872636
they're more shoulder than hip.

[Anonymous No.18872791]

>>18872627
>>18872581
Yes, there are a tremendous number of people like this nowadays, who are spiritually broken and apathetic, unable even to conceive what it would be like to experience any part of their life as meaningful.

But that itself is a condemnation of the state of contemporary art. What is art, if not the attempt to express something worth expressing, and thereby to draw attention to those parts of life that are meaningful and worthwhile. If people have literally have never had an experience of that kind that wasn't diluted by hundreds of years, does that not suggest some sort of abdication or massive failure on the part of artists?

Inb4 "you're not looking hard enough." People fucking love art, and they love discovering things, and if they were finding anything that moved them, you would never be able to get them to shut up about it. But I never see anything like that.

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>>18872791
>nooo not enough people HECKIN LOVE ARTERINO imma kill myseeeelllff
>*botches suicide

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>>18870574
If people can write through ww2 and the great depression I don't see what's so unique or terrible about now where they can't keep writing .

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>>18867752
>Ocean Vuong
Rupi Kaur tier writer

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>>18872446
>Muh cancel culture

I'm sure if it wasn't for those darn sjws we would be drowning in high quality right wing authors. Think for yourself and stop parroting shit you barely understand.