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>new IPCC report is out
How to cope with the fact our civilisation will inevitably collaps by 2050? Any book?

>> No.18814597

>>18814571
I see no civilization. The beast of state-capitalism ought to fall, and the sooner the better, for people and climate.

>> No.18814604

>>18814571
Prepare to defend your people. Or whatever you hold of value.
>>18814597
Youre a faggot

>> No.18814608

>>18814571
>How to cope with the fact our civilisation will inevitably collaps by 2050?
Euphoric.

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I picture society descending into cynicism and hedonism once the normies realize its too late.

Its time to load up on drugs and sex and food before it all goes down

>> No.18814648

I hope it happens today

>> No.18814656

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_A%27_the_Seas

The story consists of two parts. The first describes the events that took place on Earth from a few thousand years to a few million years after the present day. The climate on Earth is getting warmer and warmer, oceans are slowly disappearing. People are gradually moving towards the poles, becoming more and more barbaric. Mankind is steadily dying out because of the lack of water, until there are only a few decades left.

The second part starts in a small village in the desert. There is only one man left in the village: young Ull. A very old woman, the only company for the man, died just before. Ull starts a journey in search of other people using his knowledge of old legends. In a few days, extremely thirsty and tired, he finds a small settlement. Ull enters one of the houses and finds nothing but a dried-up old skeleton. Depressed, he starts searching for water and finds a well with a little water in it. Trying to reach the string to pull up a dip-bucket, he falls into the well and dies. And after the death of the last man, mankind totally has vanished. A farce, named "evolution", faces a natural conclusion.

>> No.18814673

I for one can't wait

>> No.18814677

>>18814571
I think I have boy-who-cried-wolf syndrome with all this climate stuff. I understand the basic mechanism, that humans are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere and it's making the earth hotter. But after decades of literally nothing of consequence happening, I just don't care anymore.

>> No.18814700

>>18814677
>I just don't care anymore
How?
It's been at least 3 years i've been thinking about actually kms by 2035 because of the total destruction of the environment + the lack of a liveable and prosperous future.
>>18814656
Brutal.

>> No.18814705

>>18814677
Not to mention they are saying that the 2020 shutdown didn’t change anything. Either we build fusion tech or return to monke.

But realistically, nothing really changes.

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>>18814604
Homosexual and fine with it. Here. Read this to get a proper perspective on the situation. Know who you’re defending from whom.

>> No.18814712

>>18814700
Unless you are living in the Seychelles you are fine.

>> No.18814715

>>18814700
wow you sound weak, what is wrong with you anon?

>> No.18814720

I hope to see the beginning but also be too fucking dead to actually suffer through any calamity produce by it.

>> No.18814721

>>18814710
You're still a massive faggot and everyone on this board thinks so too.

>> No.18814725

>>18814677
I took a course on climate change once. A lot of this stuff is alarmist, but the gradual heating up of the planet will make increasingly large swathes of land uninhabitable. This will take more than a century.

>> No.18814726

>>18814677
Things of consequence have been happening, just not to you yet

>> No.18814728

>>18814712
Are you fucking kidding me?
That's your answer?
I don't think you understand that a majority of fertile lands will either be seriously affected by massive drought or floods.

That's how you cope with doom? By lying to yourself?

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>>18814571
>non-whites will suffer and get culled by famine and civil wars
>europe (the only place worth caring about) will became more prosperous
We should accelerate this. Tear down every solar plant and replace it with coal. Punch tires of every tesla you see

>> No.18814746

>>18814721
>says the faggot.

>> No.18814750

>>18814728
I can't comprehend being as much of a weak faggot as you are. Why do you even want the current world order to survive? Violent change is the only way opportunities open up. But it's not like any of this is real, anyway.

>> No.18814751

>>18814728
A BLOO BLOO
pussy

>> No.18814757
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google the terms "wet bulb temperature" and "hot house earth".
america will have to deal with a rising china, external and internal migration, vast swaths of the western parts of america will become uninhabitable. its going to be pure chaos.

I picture america either balkanizing or going full fashy

>> No.18814764

>>18814715
I don't know, i've always been sort of pessimist.
I was born on October of 2001.
I have a deep gut feeling that its "not going to get any better".

I know i'm sounding like a huge Plebbit pussy, but i'm freaking out all the time about the death of mankind and all the disgusting stuff we have done to ourselves and our "home".

I can't see myself living past 40 years old. I don't want to end up like my family members. I've been working in a retirement home and in a bank as counter staff, and trust me, being a senile broken-down old fart makes me shiver.

I don't understand how anyone is "a-ok" with how things are going. I can't. Had to see multiple therapists since i was 8/9, but it didn't do shit.

>> No.18814768

>>18814739
>implying there won't be nulear wars
>implying there won't be the biggest mass migration ever seen

>> No.18814788

>>18814728
>I don't think you understand that a majority of fertile lands will either be seriously affected by massive drought or floods.
[citation needed]

>> No.18814798

These alarmist reports are bought and paid for by TPTB to enact unpopular political reforms in favour of the elite. Chill out.

>> No.18814810

>>18814739
By 2100 Europe will definitely not be white anymore

>> No.18814812

>>18814788
Drought :
https://www.c2es.org/content/drought-and-climate-change/
https://www.climatehotmap.org/global-warming-effects/drought.html
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/drought-and-climate-change
https://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2021/04/30/how-climate-change-is-worsening-drought/

Floods :
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/flooding-and-climate-change-everything-you-need-know
https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-climate-change-making-record-breaking-floods-new-normal
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-river-flooding

>> No.18814814

>>18814764
you're not even 20 first off, you don't have the capacity to conceive of a future for yourself. that isn't unique only to you, it's a modern crisis of young men everywhere.

I believe you're exerting your own uncertainty and anxieties upon the world around you, and the unknowmn that lurks around every corner of your existence, and you're latching on to the so-proposed massive extinction level threat which is shouted down every channel of media at you from every direction. I think that whatever the truth is in and amongst the noise of "journalism" and making money, you are amplifying it through your own brokeness.

>> No.18814821

>>18814764
Bro you’ve been fucking brainwashed. Shit is not going to be that bad. You want to help? Advocate for transitioning to nuclear energy.

>> No.18814822

>>18814798
Yeah sure thing, and Trump will also be re-instated by the end of this month.

>> No.18814832

>>18814597
>>18814608
>>18814648
>>18814673
>being this edgy in 2021

I bet you'll think and act differently once you're starving.

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>>18814788
Lots of climate models. If it doesn’t happen by 2050, it happens eventually, and very likely within a mere hundred years. Unless we do a lot of reforms

>> No.18814837

>>18814822
Glad you agree. I wouldn't bet on Trump though. I doubt he's even interested in a second term.

>> No.18814838

>>18814768
>nuclear wars
They are barely capable of using old kalashnikovs
>mass migration
Put barb wire, minefields and machine guns on EU borders. Send submarines in medditeran and sink every boat trying to cross.
This is unironically the last chance to reverse dysgenic trends and apply social darwinism on grand scale. We must be as brutal as possible to get trough this.

>> No.18814843

>>18814832
No, I won't.

>> No.18814846

>>18814832
>This in the dark
I am thinking differently already, geez.

>> No.18814847

>>18814571
It'll collapse before then

>> No.18814848

>>18814571
Not my problem

>> No.18814853

>civilization will collapse by 2050
lol this is the prepper/sadcunt equivalent of "2 MORE WEEKS TRUST THE PLAN"

>> No.18814856

>>18814812
Just because you drown (heh, get it?) me in links it doesn't change the fact that they say nothing of the sort and you are a sensationalist faggot.

>>18814834
The vast, vast majority of models predict nothing of the sort, even IPCC which historically is one of the more alarmist-leaning authorities doesn't go anywhere near as far as to suggest that the majority of fertile land will be seriously impacted

>> No.18814858

>>18814764
Literally why do you care? Sit the fuck down and ask yourself what you'd actually lose if this happened. Probably nothing, as you are a pathetic loser with no life in a broken society that openly wants you to suffer. You don't even go outside so who cares what temperature it is?

>> No.18814862

>>18814838
india and pakistan have nuclear weapons and are running out of water.

tik tok tik tok tik tok tik tok :)

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>>18814597
Why don't you fuck off to North Korea or some other commie country if you hate capitalism so much, you dumb bitch? See the fruits of your cancerous ideology.

>> No.18814864

>>18814810
Which is why we should speed the process to force change as soon as possible. Think boiling frog metaphor

>> No.18814868

The same people funding the ringing of alarm balls are the same people steering the ship which is allegedly creating the conditions for which alarm bells need to be rang. But the common man is supposed to not just pay attention but “do something”. This is more dystopian to me than the actual alarm bells.

Anyway, Russia is going to survive so you could live vicariously through them.

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>>18814746
Commie bitch mad asf

>> No.18814872

>>18814832
I'm not trying to be edgy you dumb fucking child, I am an adult with a degree and a job and I have to actually live in the world you sit around having cutesy opinions on. It's just obvious to any man with a brain that this society is fucked.

>> No.18814875

>>18814862
These two will likely put themselves out. Hopefully Iran and Israel do the same

>> No.18814881

its so funny seeing the deniers and people in denial

OOOOH ITS NOT THAT BAD, DONT WORRY


God im going to love it when the first hypercane happens

>> No.18814884

>>18814856
>Muh elitist neoliberal economist ran his models more times. We win.
It’s a difficult thing to gauge, but the trend is obvious. Your denial is typical widwitery

>> No.18814885

>>18814821
>Advocate for transitioning to nuclear energy.
I live in France. It's over.
>>18814814
>I think that whatever the truth is in and amongst the noise of "journalism" and making money, you are amplifying it through your own brokeness.
Maybe but that won't change the fact that day by day, our post-WW2 civilisation is slowly but surely biting the dust.
Beyond climate change and biodiveristy loss, there is also economic instability, debauchery and the evil ways of the elites that also concern me on a daily basis.

I don't know how to accept this joke of a "status-quo", the whole thing is broken and advocating for moronic accelerationism is the worst thing you could possibly do.
I'm afraid it's truly over.

>> No.18814889

>>18814571
>by 2050
All you shitposting lardsack zoomers will be dead by then, anyway
Everyone else has already read Ballard

>> No.18814891

Nobody knows ehat the future holds, not even your precious scientists. Stop worrying about what you can't know or change.

>> No.18814897

>>18814881
You still haven't posted any peer-reviewed papers which seriously entertain the possibility of a doomsday scenario in the 21st century.

>>18814884
>strawmanning everyone as muh MAGA climate change denier
Whatever man, I don't care, stop shitting up my literature board

>> No.18814898

>>18814881
you are such a dumb fucking redditor
>I totally 100% believe in this absurd doomsday narrative and totally actually care about "society" but I value having an "I told you so" moment more than society not being destroyed

>> No.18814899

>>18814863
Because I’m serious, garbage muncher.

>> No.18814901

>>18814834
Do you actually still read these books? Don’t you get tired of the endless parade of literal who’s writing books about this or that new revolutionary way to do x (usually invokes “conservation”,”sustainability”,”ecology”, or “labor”)? They’re the hippie progressive equivalent of How to UnF*ck Yourself in the Boardroom books and you have to be perfectly aware of that by now.

>> No.18814903

Butterfly is fucking based, I love it when she triggers the undergrad meme shitters who are on /lit/ only because they want to write Le Great American Novel in 2021

>> No.18814905

>>18814618
What do you mean "picture"

Just look around

>> No.18814910
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>>18814863
>Stonetoss
>North Korea is a commie country, even though picrel + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche#Analysis_and_reception
Opinion discarded.

>> No.18814911

>>18814863
>>18814871
bros, i really hoped /lit/ would be better than this...

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>>18814897
>Hey, I voted for Biden and I still think climate change is malarkey

>> No.18814916

>>18814898
of course, there is a dark humor to the idea that you stupid fucks will have to face reality

>> No.18814919

tfw neo-progressive faggots on this board are so out of touch with climate science that they think supporting the general consensus in the field is muh capitalist brainwashing plot to destroy the earth

>> No.18814920

>>18814897
>peer-reviewed papers
You can't even figure out which board you're on, and you want others to spoonfeed you
>>18814571
>Any book?
Fuck you

>> No.18814928

>>18814914
>>18814920
>states an opinion
>provides "citations" which literally say different things
>IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A PUPPET TO THE WALSTREET REEEEEEEEEEE
>refuses to elaborate
>doesn't leave because they aren't done shitting up the board yet

>> No.18814929

>>18814916
The people who "believe" in climate change aren't even doing anything about it, retard. It doesn't matter what either of us think, I'd happily just be unaware of this now and face "reality" later than be a pathetic schizo like you. I am much stronger than you physically and mentally and have a way higher chance of surviving any of this shit, anyway.

>> No.18814930

>>18814916
The dark humor is you using people you will never know or meet to make up some fantasy scenario of karmic justice in your head. Pure copium.

>> No.18814932

>>18814858
>why do you care
Because i'm not a jaded cunt like you? Because i have basic emotions?
Because nobody will cope with collapse?
>>18814891
>Stop worrying about what you can't know or change.
>yeah bro, just cope. nothing to see here.

>> No.18814937

>>18814571
This type of thing happens periodically, there's no complex system that doesn't eventually get destroyed by the counterbalancing forces of chaos. Imagine living in Europe during the black plague, where like 30% of the population got wiped out, or imagine being forced to migrate massive distances with your tribe as the ice age dawns. Imagine the collapse experienced by central american civilizations when europeans showed up. I can't think of any historical global ecological catastrophe but I'm sure they've happened, I mean the silk road did not continue forever right?
It's an utter tragedy, and a lot of good people are going to suffer.
Personally, I'm going to have a bunch of kids, because I think it's cruel to deprive those impoverished future generations of my genes, which could provide some hope and leadership in the coming hard times.

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>>18814928
>Cites fossil fuel findings
>expects people to run away with tails tucked.

>> No.18814944

Just a reminder that even the most pessimistic predictions don't reach more than 2.5 degree celsius growth in annual mean temp. in our lifetimes
Stay mad raiders

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>>18814920
>Fuck you

I didn't expected this would trigger /lit/ this hard. Some book recommendations would be great tho

>> No.18814950

>>18814942
>cites that water is wet
>therefore water causes cancer

>> No.18814957

>>18814944
>in our lifetimes
>Shakespeare will have a hundred years left, so no worries. We don’t have any kids. Heh

>> No.18814959

>>18814937
0/10 bait.
I'm sure you'll spread your skinnyfat, pongy, bald inbred genes to your retarded ADHD midwit ugly offspring.

>> No.18814969

>>18814928
You are spamming the front page of the literature board with dumb American politics... again... and you accuse others of shitting up the board
Go read a book and come back to talk about it you fucking moron

>> No.18814970

>>18814944
Just a reminder IPCC is known for making too soft prediction.
Tweet (from today) very much related.

https://twitter.com/rahmstorf/status/1424751435288358914

>>18814937
Any book recommendations about that system theory stuff?

>> No.18814975

>>18814932
You don't need to cope when you don't care. There are a million things that can kill you that you dont even think about. The only reason you are stressed out over this one is because you've been bombarded with political propaganda.

>> No.18814980

The solution is nuclear, fracking, and less zoning. Anything more than that would be communism and wouldn't even work without crippling us severely.

>> No.18814984

>>18814932
>it's called being a fucking decent human being!
If you want people to console you for being a weak faggot who can't handle having these retarded doomsday beliefs then go back to r*ddit, here we will just let you know how much of a faggot you are. If you actually believe this shit, go out and prepare yourself for it instead of sitting around whining and pretending like the fact that you know about it protects you and the fact that we don't somehow puts us in danger

>> No.18814985

*2030

>> No.18814986

>>18814946
>recommendations
Fuck off to /his/ or /sci/ then
We get that books are very deep and mysterious to you phoneposting dumbasses, that doesn't mean that just because it happens to be in a book means it belongs on /lit/
As if you ever read anyway, dumbass trollfuck

>> No.18814988

>>18814980
*and wouldn't even work even well after it had crippled us severely.

>> No.18814992

>>18814980
>another one who doesn’t know what communism is
*Leninism. *Stalinism

>> No.18814996

>>18814980


the solution is radically scale back just about every single economic activity and accept the casualties

>> No.18814997

>>18814969
I literally didn't write anything even remotely political. I merely noted that the posted was outright lying about what the links say.

>>18814970
>Just a reminder IPCC is known for making too soft prediction.
Says who?

>Tweet (from today) very much related.
Models that include it make very similar predictions to the IPCC consensus (you can check this by spending 5 minutes on google scholar clicking on the most cited links). If anything it only really impacts variance/confidence of the models.

>>18814992
Sure thing roastie, anarcho-syndycalism would totally work and is completely coherent.

>> No.18814998

>>18814986
he makes these shitty threads on every board, I've seen him on /adv/

>> No.18815003

>>18814996
This is how I know you are a sheltered retard who lives with his parents. If we do this you will be one of the first to day, your NEETbux will be canceled and the looters will come and eat you.

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>>18814986
>projection this hard
I not looking for more scientific input, I'm looking for emotionale carthasis, thus fiction. And now please fuck off.

>> No.18815015

>>18815003
That and people will not just accept scaling back economic growth. When there aren't enough jobs to go around people will riot and kill. Its a known fact that declining economies cause people to riot and lose faith in the government.

There is no "solution".

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>>18814571
Seek the Golden Path. Read God Emperor of Dune.

>> No.18815024

>>18815010
touch grass

>> No.18815029

>>18815019
based

>> No.18815030

>>18815015
So i guess >>18814764 was right.
Suicide is the only thing left.

>> No.18815043

>>18814597
>attention whore

>> No.18815046

WELCOME THE COLLAPSE

TAKE ARMS AND BUILD MUSCLE

YOU SHALL BE THE WARLORDS OF TOMMOROW

THE DOMINATORS OF THE ASHES OF MEN

FROM THE DUST WE SHALL RISE

AND BUILD A NEW WORLD

IN THE IMAGE OF OURSELVES

THE WEAK SHALL PERISH BUT THE STRONG WILL PERSEVERE

TAKE THE PILL OF BLOOD

EMBRACE RAGNAROK

>> No.18815047

>>18815030
Maybe for weak faggots like yourself. But there are those who do not want to see their countries collapse. Kill yourself faggot you and other weak people will be eliminated from society anyway.

>> No.18815051

>>18815015
People will have to accept that perpetual growth is literally impossible. There is immediate recoil at the notion of the global population declining. Why? People are so entrenched in promotion of consumer cultures, corporate cultures, the hegemony of countries and a decline in humans brings the fear of mortality to those systems.

You'll hear cries of racism and nationalism, etc. etc. because people cannot get out of promoting the system.

>> No.18815053

>>18815043
you don't know what greentexting is for, retard

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>>18814618
Those things are already happening. The vast majority of people don't care, will continue to stare at screens, freak out every election stuff their faces with horrible food, argue about every little thing around them and continue shooting out kids who'll repeat that cycle.

I'm just going to bid my time, save up enough money to find some land on the coast and disappear.

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Is he a psued?

How white does he make other ideas?

>> No.18815065

I stopped reading when I saw they said the idea it’s all man-made is an established fact.

>> No.18815070

>>18814597
Don't listen to the haters, you're absolutely correct butters. Down with civilization

>> No.18815072

>>18815070
cringe

>> No.18815079

>>18815046
Not a single bodybuilder nitwit will be a “warlord”. Stop it.

>> No.18815082

>>18814992
I called it communism to deliberately rusle your jimmies. Besides, even if you useful pseuds don't know it, anarkiddyism will always lead to communism because retarded like you will always be raped as soon as the old order is tore away, and so comes the new one.

>> No.18815087

>>18815079
NICE COPE, FATASS

>> No.18815088

>>18815051
You're such a fucking immature retard, if you ever live outside of mommy's house you will see how. The common man has nothing to do with "growth" and gets no benefit from it, we only want decent jobs and living conditions. Growth has only ever been for the rich, like your hero Greta, and even if we do shutdown our economy it'll be just like corona where they close small businesses and protect multi-billion dollar companies, and nothing would change. You and I have no control here, the difference is you are being a huge whiny faggot instead of doing something with your life.

>> No.18815090

>>18814814
>>18814821
>>18814858
I'm mid 30s and I have the strong feeling I will die violently in the next 10 years, if I don't kill myself first. I've always looked at "preppers" like they were crazy but lately I have the same nasty feeling that things will get really ugly soon. I think >>18815015 is right.
When Bezos went to space I unironically thought the base idea is for these mega rich people to leave for some space station, they could be making tests, who knows. Not that I believe this but that was my first thought.

>> No.18815093

>>18815087
Imagine thinking I’m the one coping. You are DELUSIONAL, a literal parody of a Kracht novel made manifestly real.