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Books on how to argue better? I don't know what to say when I'm hit with this word

>> No.18746726

>>18746718
incel detected

>> No.18746731

>>18746726
Okay but what do I say

>> No.18746739

>>18746731
just apologize under your breath and leave with your head hanging low

>> No.18746745
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18746745

Drop the blackpill and prove conclusively that unless female hypergamy is stopped their sons will be incels too.

>> No.18746747

>>18746739
Okay

>> No.18746759

>>18746731
have sex

>> No.18746764

>>18746759
Make me

>> No.18746768

>>18746764
no i meant tell them to have sex

>> No.18746771

>>18746745
And what do you suggest we do to stop it?

>> No.18746775

>>18746768
have sex

>> No.18746776
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18746776

>>18746731
>>18746718
On here? Just consult the chart. Say dilate and they'll inevitably say something in the top of the chart allowing you to easily counter it.

>> No.18746778

>>18746771
Start with the Greeks

>> No.18746780

>>18746718
have sex

>> No.18746782
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18746782

>>18746718
If someone tosses “incel” at you and you’re floored, then you probably are one. Try to convince them that this doesn’t contribute to the argument and constitutes name-calling.
However, that would only work if you don’t hurl slurs yourself. In that case, they’re debating at the same level you are, so you shouldn’t be complaining.

>> No.18746788

>>18746771
have sex

>> No.18746790

>>18746780
dilate

>> No.18746793

>>18746782
incel

>> No.18746798

>>18746745
lots of women aren't fucking too you know.

>> No.18746799

>>18746776
Interesting, the zoomer lattice has a partial ordering.

Is there a name for this theorem?

>> No.18746806

>>18746799
Fundamental Theorem of 4chan

>> No.18746818

>>18746776
https://vocaroo.com/1bzDnM24OleO

>> No.18746819

>>18746718
Schopenhauer on how to win any argument. Ironic considering he was an incel himself.

>> No.18746824

>>18746793
Dialate

>> No.18746828

>>18746776
Did you just create this?

>> No.18746837

>>18746798
Far lower % then men, and those few celibate women tend to be mentally ill rather than dismissed because of their looks like ugly/mediocre men are. Sexual liberation simply encourages the natural harem mentality of women, meaning 80% of them gladly share the top 20% of males.

>> No.18746848

>>18746819
have sex

>> No.18746849

>>18746837
>source: my ass

>> No.18746854

>>18746837
>Far lower % then men
source?

>> No.18746858

>>18746818
https://vocaroo.com/1aatc87gT18j

>> No.18746866

>>18746718
Hegel.

>> No.18746867
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18746867

>>18746828
>being this new
Just stop posting for a little bit and lurk some more.

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>>18746849
>>18746854
This is the official graph, but you shouldn't forget that women are notorious for lying and considerably underreporting the number of their partners.

>> No.18746896

>>18746771
rape

>> No.18746898

>>18746776
This is hilarious. But why is it so?

>> No.18746899

>>18746745
>>18746874
What’s with the spike in horniness during 2008?

>> No.18746902

>>18746718
You're a chudcel. What will you do now?

>> No.18746905

>>18746874
pretty scary and i'd bet the real numbers are higher for men, since men are especially insecure about their sexual experience and would be more likely to lie about it.

>> No.18746909

>>18746899
Facebook reached 100M users

>> No.18746914

>>18746905
No doubt about that.

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18746918

>>18746905
That's what happens when men forget they have to start with the Greeks

>> No.18746922

>>18746858
So trve

>> No.18746940

>>18746905
They say you should multiply woman's confessed number of partners by 3 and divide man's by 3, so I wouldn't be surprised if the real number there was like 8% of celibate women and 38% celibate men.

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18746941

>incel

>> No.18746954

>>18746874
>graphs describing Americas collapse

>> No.18746957

>>18746941
t. Chud
>>18746718
You shouldn't argue with shit like that. Just tell them to fuck themselves and move one.

>> No.18746962

>>18746957
Dilate

>> No.18746970

>>18746874
wow, society needs to have sex

>> No.18746977

>>18746957
>someone calling another poster a "chud" giving any advice

Yikes.

>> No.18746988

>>18746977
>Implying that I'm not a Chud. And that it takes one to recognize another.
Anon, I...

>> No.18746990

>>18746988
have sex

>> No.18746998

I am entitled to sex.

>> No.18747000

>>18746970
Women should stop whoring themselves out and look for monogamous relationships with equal partners. Impossible to put the genie back in the bottle now that any 5/10 fattie can order premium Chad cock on Tinder though.

>> No.18747016

>>18746990
No. Don't want anyone bothering me.

>> No.18747023

>>18746998
How come

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18747033

>chud

>> No.18747041

>>18746718
http://www.nlpinfocentre.com/downloads/sep2014/38%20Ways%20To%20Win%20An%20Argument.pdf

38 Become personal, insulting and rude as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand. In becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack on the person by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character.
This is a very popular technique, because it takes so little skill to put it into effect

>> No.18747051

>>18747023
It's a human need, just like eating. In the Netherlands, prostitution is legal and even mentally deficient people are assigned prostitutes by the state.

>> No.18747158

>>18747051
>It's a human need, just like eating
There examples of people who lived as celibate all their life but no one lived their life without eating. So the comparison is terrible

>> No.18747191

>>18747158
It was an example of another human need, not a direct comparison. Recent studies show that having sex is part of a person's well-being and the government's job is to secure the well-being of its citizens against changing situations, catastrophs or in this case changing social dynamics. The Dutch gvt is doing its job alright by ensuring the universal access to sex of its citizens and by consequence their well being in that front.

>> No.18747195

>>18747158
people become insane weirdos if they never fuck. they may not die physically but they die psychologically.

>> No.18747204

>>18747195
>people become insane weirdos if they never fuck
That's good for your lit gains though, no sane person ever wrote anything good.

>> No.18747217

>>18746718
Just rent a van and drive through sidewalks.

>> No.18747230

>>18746718
Go back to school.

>> No.18747234

>>18746718
Say not an argument or ad hominem.

>> No.18747241

>>18746718
To stop caring about being called incel, first you need to stop thinking that winning or losing make someone better or worse. If you think winners are better, you will feel bad for being a incel loser. But winners are not better.

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>> No.18747249
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18747249

Sex should be human right.

>> No.18747255

>>18747195
This is why some incels cope with homosexuality, because humans are a social species who can't handle loneliness well even if they rationally are ok with it. Also because homosexuals feel pleasure in losing/being dominated, and the incel is losing and being dominated. He can reject homosexuality but it will be a possibility.

>> No.18747268

>>18746718
You go to the gym, start an actual skincare routine, and go to parties until you can hold a conversation. Within a year you'll wake up at least with middling attractiveness, a friend group, and the occasional hookup.
Western "incels" are just less honest hikkis. At least admit you are pathetic and squandering your life and try to change it.

>> No.18747298

>>18747249
Love should be a human right.

>> No.18747307

>>18747268
>occasional hookup
Average incel would only be deeply disappointed by this and get more depressed than ever. Casual sex with some drunk slut is sexually less satisfying than a fap session and emotionally less fulfilling than meditative solitude.

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>>18747307
>Casual sex with some drunk slut is sexually less satisfying than a fap session and emotionally less fulfilling than meditative solitude.
Only an incel could believe this lmao

>> No.18747417

>>18747413
he's right though

>> No.18747420

>>18747413
He's right. Casual drunk sex is meaningless and only slightly better than masturbation-

>> No.18747422

>>18746909
this and tinder was introduced.

>> No.18747425

>>18747413
irony

>> No.18747452

>>18747000
>Women should stop whoring themselves out and look for monogamous relationships with equal partners. Impossible to put the genie back in the bottle now that any 5/10 fattie can order premium Chad cock on Tinder though.
women don't whore themselves (except for prostitutes that is) rather they wish to be monogamous with that one chad ubermensch with god tier genes.
>>18747195
they're already treated weird because they're ugly.women get taught from a very young age that beauty matters big time but the opposite is taught for men so that they can be used as s_o_y_cucks to keep the system running .infact women are much more cruel to ugly humans than men be it a baby,a toddler an adolescent or an adult.beauty is the certificate of ur genetic health.

>> No.18747471

>>18746745
Has anyone ever found the female stats for this one? All the others graphs for this series have them.

>> No.18747483

>>18746858
cringe, but also based

>> No.18747525

>>18746718
Them using incel as a pejorative just proves you right. Just read up on the scientific blackpill and calmly but firmly state your arguments. Be nice so they cant immediately swerve the discussion to "yikes wow sweaty maybe its your personality" passive-aggressiveness.
Once the argument gets to a certain point the normalfag, faced with the truth that contradicts his programming, will invariably start frothing at the mouth and becoming passive-aggressive if not outright antagonistic calling you incel, virgin, loser, neckbeard, saying youve got a small dick, that you should take a shower, leave the basement, talk to a woman for once in your life etc. .
Thats exactly what you want. The brainwashed normans wont agree with your position anyway no matter how correct it is or how perfectly you state it but there will be downtrodden people on the sidelines that will take note.
They will see that normies dont have any counterarguments and will instead resort to simply calling your a virgin and incel, baring their disdain for your kind to the world and proving you right.
>>18747471
see >>18746874

>> No.18747533

>>18747471
>>18747525
Sorry thought thats the one you were looking for.

>> No.18747560

>>18747533
Yeah there's a big difference between "no sex after age 18" and "no sex in the last year". Presumably few people who aren't having sex after 18 were having it before, so it's the best virgin category among the graphs. Yet it has no female line.

>> No.18747682

>>18746745
"I will have a son but not a grandson"
How they will cope? It isn't too bad right?

>> No.18747776

>>18746745
>Drop the blackpill and prove conclusively that unless female hypergamy is stopped their sons will be incels too
but female hypergamy and their proclivity to select and pass the good genes to the next generation while simultaneously ensuring bad genes get eradicated is what led to human evolution.I seriously think incels(genetic trash) should be enslaved and be forced to serve the chads and women .

>> No.18747840

>>18747776
>I seriously think incels(genetic trash) should be enslaved and be forced to serve the chads and women .
have sex

>> No.18747855

>>18747840
Dilate

>> No.18747871

>>18747855
based
>>18747840
even nietzsche would've wanted that u genetic dead-end

>> No.18747876

>>18747871
>Nietzsche
himself a genetic dead end. who cares what he would've wanted

>> No.18747888

>>18747876

u /lit/ards cling on to his philosophy don't u

>> No.18747889

>>18746874
Less sex for uggos after tinder kek

>> No.18747893

>>18747888
Behead yourself.

>> No.18747896

>>18747776
>Women tend to be attracted to the Dark Triad—narcissism, manipulativeness, & psychopathy
>Criminal and antisocial men have more sexual partners and have sex earlier
>Antisocial, criminal and violent men have greater sexual access to women
>Male gang members have dramatically more female sexual partners
>More than half of prison staff sexual misconduct involves female guards/staff
>39% of hospitalized male psychopaths had consensual sex with female mental health staff
>Women desiring marriage and commitment are more attracted to narcissistic men
>Rapists are far more sexually active than other men
>High IQ men are more likely to remain virgins longer
>Teenage boys with ADHD have double the amount of sexual partners vs. 'normal' teens
>Cluster-B personality disorders lead to 3.5x as many sexual partners and more offspring
>what is evolutionary mismatch
Low-IQ ex-con drugdealers with ADHD and bipolar disorder as the ideal partner? Yep sounds like EVGENICS to me as long as theyre over 6ft.

>> No.18747897

>>18746771
Teach women to have some fucking balls in approaching. Teach men to be more violent.

>> No.18747905

>>18746718
How old are you?
How many women have you slept with?
>incel is a meme because women in 2021 are so corrupted by smart phones and non-stop propaganda.
For the record, back in like 2001, it was INCREDIBLY EASY even for nerds to get laid. Holy fuck my 5'1 redhead buddy with acne scars got laid quite a bit by simply cracking funny jokes he stole from HBO.

>> No.18747908

>>18747896
Ah,the GIGA COPE in ur green coloured shit posts.JFL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTGfbsI7wic&pp=sAQA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ll499TkHzM&pp=sAQA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlQU0xRDtiM

>> No.18747911

>>18747905
>Holy fuck my 5'1 redhead buddy with acne scars got laid quite a bit by simply cracking funny jokes he stole from HBO.
cool story BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18747913

>>18746819
He fucked his mom

>> No.18747916

>>18746819
>Ironic considering he was an incel himself.
kek no.he had numerous affairs and wanted to continue his behaviour by not marrying.

>> No.18747922

>>18746776
where does "who hurt you" fit into this

>> No.18747960

>>18747922
beats dilate and cope but loses to everything else

>> No.18747966

>>18747960
How about "have sex"?

>> No.18747973

>>18746718
There's nothing you can say, you just need to have sex. Its that simple.

>> No.18747980

>>18746731

cope or dilate or seethe

>> No.18747986

>>18747966
dilate exists for a reason

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>>18747268
Ding ding ding

Literally just build a social circle and throw parties / host events. You will be turning down women after just 1 year of this like the other anon suggests.

>> No.18748254

>>18746828
Post again in a couple of years.

>> No.18748316

>>18746718
How is arguing better going to help you have sex, incel.

>> No.18748776

>>18746718
Maybe you need to get over your insecurity or have sex instead of improving your arguments? You will look rediculous trying to make a case for being a virgin.

Why do you debate someone that in the end just calls you incel and you fold pathetically? What debate leads to this? Do you find enjoyment in the end?

>> No.18748785

>>18746731
make them feel sorry for insulting you. either verbally harm them or just say something like "yeah, sorry i was born ugly". I dont understand why you are having a hard time.

>> No.18748917

>>18746819
"Art of Being Right" was just a collection of logical fallacies except they were made to be used on purpose rather than by accident. It only works on ignorant people who don't know how to debate properly. In fact, I'm pretty sure that book was just a satire and not to be taken seriously, much like The Prince.

>> No.18749586

>>18746782
nigger

>> No.18750490

>>18748917
>satire and not to be taken seriously, much like The Prince
Based on letters from Machiavelli this standpoint is far from the truth so stop parroting the “hurr it’s just satire bro” take. If we want to reduce The Prince in such a simplistic way, a better label would be “job application” sent to Lorenzo di Piero de' Medici.

>> No.18750502

>>18748917
You're a retard + you didn't even read The Prince
Look, some ad personam and you're done, thx schopenhauer for learning me that sick trick