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I am looking for the most miserable books and not because of war or anything like that but personal suffering. I want books that will make me feel worse. I want basically books that are like punpun but not manga as I have read all the manga that is depressing and good.

I have ordered the following books from /lit/s depressing book top 100 buy are there any more I should add to a list for next time? (costs so much and I should read all of these first)

The Thorn Birds by Colleen McCullough
To Live by Yu Hua
books by Osamu Dazai (nearly all read)
Snow Country by Yasunari Kawabata
Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy
Stoner by John Williams
Kokoro by Natsume Soseki
Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy
The stranger
(five books from Haruki Murakami)
Kokoro
Confessions of a mask
The tunnel
The lost weekend
skylark

>> No.18677862

>>18677846
Maybe if you stopped watching gay cartoons you'd be less depressed

>> No.18677876
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>>18677862
>Maybe if you stopped watching gay cartoons you'd be less depressed
*squish*
don't boss me around and help me find some depressing books you bakka

>> No.18677885

>>18677846
That's some nice tummy. Samuel Beckett's quite depressing - try reading Endgame, it's not very long, about 60 pages.

>> No.18678229

>>18677846
report this post or this place will become /b/

>> No.18678288

>>18677885
Noted.
I really liked The setting sun by Dazai and waiting on school girl as I hope it is similar.
Read Norwegian wood day before last and ran out of unread books so waiting on books to arrive!!

Might as well read endgame online if it is so short, thanks.
>>18678229
Report the post for what?
We have always used anime as OP images here.

>> No.18679174

>>18678229
none of the boards became /b/

>> No.18679213

>>18678229
No, fuck you pseud. This is on-topic. Either contribute or fuck off.

>> No.18679245

>>18677846
>I am looking for the most miserable books and not because of war or anything like that but personal suffering.
So in short, you want to read about suffering, excluding war which is the pinnacle of suffering?
So you just want "wow woman won't kiss me big sad :CC" individualist shlock to keep your mind occupied from the reality of the suffering of evil that has permenated human existence since the dawn of civilization?

>> No.18679422

>>18679174
>>18679213
>>18678288
if you tolerate porn it will eventually all turn into porn

>> No.18679451

Seems like you are only interested in fiction but On the Heights of Despair has similar vibes

Would also recommend Beckett's trilogy, it might be difficult at first until you get swallowed into a trance, try reading aloud for that effect

>> No.18679706

>>18677846
The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne is like Tess on steroids. You should add it to your list if you enjoy reading about puritan Britain/US and sentences with at least three adjectives you barely understnd.

>> No.18679927

>>18679422
>That's porn for anon
Classical art must be like uberporn for you.
>>18677846
Handful of Dust

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>>18679245
I personally do not find war sad and I am unsure why although have thought upon it for some time.
I do find individual suffering even without cause and plain existential horror to be what hits my tender spot.

>>18679422
>if you tolerate porn it will eventually all turn into porn
Oh wow you are actually talking about my OP pic?
How new are you?
have another one queer faggot
>>18679451
>Seems like you are only interested in fiction but On the Heights of Despair has similar vibes
Well I have read all the pessimistic works I could get into and On the Heights of despair was amazing!

I have switched to fiction now and I have read two of becketts books.
>>18679706
Thanks I have added it.

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>> No.18679962

>>18679940
Rushia is a whore, anon. Pick someone pure like Noel.

>> No.18679967

>>18679957
I have stoner ordered but what does exit core mean? will these books help ready me for killing myself?

>> No.18679971

>>18677846
Browning. Ordinary men.

>> No.18679979

>>18679967
The books to read before stopping reading books.

Piers Plowman is pretty good desu.

>> No.18679982

>>18679971
not a nazi but I do not find holocaust stuff sad at all.
>>18679979
what does that mean? looking at some of the books now.
I have no physical unread books so waiting on my order! will try give one of these a read

>> No.18679993

>>18679982
>not a nazi but I do not find holocaust stuff sad at all.
Ordinary men is about a group of men having a nice picnic in the Baltic States and enjoying themselves. It isn't a pity party for their victims. It is depressing because you can take any group of 500 middle aged men and do this with them.

>> No.18680020

>>18679993
tell you what.
I will try give this a read

how do you afford books? I am on welfare and it is really costing me a lot to order all these books.

>> No.18680078

Ishiguro's "Never Let Me Go"
His other novels too. Nobel prize winner, Booker nominee so you just know there's a lot of misery.

Tanith Lee's "White as Snow".
To quote a reviewer: "unrelentingly grim may be too upbeat a description"
Maybe some of her other fairy-tale retellings and other stories fit too. But White as Snow is truly something else.


I guess McCarthy is too obvious. Kafka too.

The Unit by Ninni Holmqvist, Scandinavian so you know it's sad.
Real Life by Adeline Dieudonné, French. Very dark and violent.

>>18679940
>I personally do not find war
Not the only one here. But it's hard to find the words exactly why.

>> No.18680101

>>18680020
1) Libraries
2) Steal them electronically
3) Steal them from University libraries

>> No.18680183

>>18680078
Thanks!
>Not the only one here. But it's hard to find the words exactly why.
Maybe because when there is war there is a lot of ain to go around and it becomes the new normal. It is a matter of fact.
What I love most is a character who is struggling despite nothing really bad needing to really happen, I like the sense of isolation in that regard.

I swear I am not edgy and I do not hate THE JOOs or anything but war stuff is just not my thing.
>>18680101
are Ebook type things good? do they replicate the feel of reading a physical book?
I have really disliked reading books on the computer sadly!

>> No.18680204

>>18680183
>Last year nothing happened
>The year before nothing happened
>And the year before that nothing happened
And that was the most horrific war in human history

>> No.18680214

>>18680204
I would not class the setting sun as a war story?
I liked that book a lot.

>> No.18680251

>>18680183
>are Ebook type things good? do they replicate the feel of reading a physical book?
I've not found an ereader that is adequate. Typesetters were genius skilled workers. Modern books and ebooks are set by machine poorly. Modern ebooks are then rendered on a device which they were not planned for. Like projecting a Kurosawa movie onto your uncle having make fuck with on your aunt.

>> No.18680318

>>18680078
Personally, I found "The Remains of the Day" more hard-hitting. Never Let Me Go seems too distant. The butler on the other hand speaks about a wasted life filled with regrets which he only realises at the end of his life when nothing else can be done and the times have already moved on.

Both are great reads though. Do you have any experience with Ishiguro's other, newer works like Klara and the Sun?

>> No.18680344

>>18677862
I don't know
Why you are a dick...
OP pic
Is twelve year old chick!

>> No.18680420

>>18680344
in what world is OP pic a 12yo anon?

>> No.18680524

>>18677846
The Tunnel shouldn't be on that list due to its ending, which is pretty much summed up as stop being a sad faggot.

>> No.18680528

>>18680524
what is not on that list and should be? what is the closest book to oyasumi punpun also.

>> No.18680567

>>18680528
I don't read manga, so I don't know. But as someone who suffers from BPD (not a w*man), I saw the ending of the Tunnel as pretty life affirming.

Houellebecq is horrific in the way he sketches out the logical conclusion of being youth and sex obsessed. So Atomised and Serotonin are both alright for this

>> No.18680629

>>18680567
Punpun is worth reading anon.
What site do you use to DL books? I search for book in duckduckgo.
What PDF reader do you use? I use foxit.

>> No.18680747

>>18680420
This one.

>> No.18680756

>>18680629
I buy physical copies from bookdepository, since it's free shipping.

I don't have an e-reader, that'd be an easy way for me to have a massive backlog and become paralysed by the size of it

>> No.18681023

>>18680183
I have an e reader. They are not like a computer at all. Pretty comfy, and the built in dictionary is helpful. If you're a stickler about even slightly damaging your books like me it takes the anxiety of reading in bed, etc away.
I still do love physical books though

>> No.18681098

>>18681023
My
>pros of reading book online
Dictionary, read any book you want instantly, can read in the dark,
>pros of reading a physical book
concentrate easier with less distraction, actually keep at it unlike ebooks (see I have made it half way and reason to finish it to beat the book)
Comfy to read in bed

How does an E reader differ from reading on a laptop? I have seen the E-ink readers etc

Not sure how much I care about damaging a book but I do get anxious while reading about the corners fretting which seems inevitable unless I read at a table etc.. It does worry me I guess.

>> No.18681138

>>18681098
I would put comfy to read in bed as a plus for the digital books honestly. Probably because I'm reading bigger, clunkier books at the moment.
>How does an E reader differ from reading on a laptop? I have seen the E-ink readers etc
I find being able to move around freely more comfortable, I switch positions a lot when I read. The e reader is more portable as well, I go out to read a fair bit on sunny days, it being small with a long battery life helps a lot. The big one for me was that the e reader is way, way easier on your eyes, even if you have a "reader mode" or similar on the laptop.
By the way,
>actually keep at it unlike ebooks (see I have made it half way and reason to finish it to beat the book)
The reader I have shows you book and chapter progress at all times, I actually quite like that feature

>> No.18681211

>>18681138
Thanks anon I will consider it as I happen to have spent 1K on books this month already and I feel as if I have not read a darn thing I tell you.

If you read ebooks what website do you use to download them? I find it a real pain not that it is not faster than waiting for a book to arrive.

>> No.18681252

>>18681211
No problem. I use libgen mostly, it seldom fails me. On those ocassions I look around elsewhere, like b-ok and such. And yeah lol it's better than the wait. That was a nice plus for me as well, I don't live in an anglophone country so I have to import basically all english literature
>as I happen to have spent 1K on books this month already and I feel as if I have not read a darn thing I tell you
Oh anon, the tsundoku doesn't leave, ever. The reader just makes it a bit more manageable, lel

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>>18681252
Thanks anon it is appreciated.
I have read all the books that have arrived but a lot are waiting to be shipped for some darn reason.

Thanks for the new word.
BTW do you come across this problem much?
The only 'In the Dust' PDF I could find has been done via machine and it is readable but I come across pic related a lot.

Some books that are machined come out fine but some have been unreadable in the past.
Thanks for the suggestion of libgen for finding books.

>> No.18681370

>>18681285
Can't say I have come across that, no. Maybe I haven't gotten into truly obscure stuff yet. My copy of The Savage Detectives had a few OCR errors, now that I remember, but that was it.
Maybe you can convert from epub to pdf? I don't even know. Maybe it's worth a try tho, there's a few epubs on libgen

>> No.18681483

>>18681370
I may just be a pleb unable to find better versions of books.
What was the most depressing book you have read anon?

I am enjoying 'In the dust' so far, a rough start but it all seems to work together and reminds me of the way The catcher in the rye was written.

>> No.18681872

>>18681483
>What was the most depressing book you have read anon?
I don't know, actually. Rather, I don't think I read that many "sad" books (although I've only been back into reading for a year now), although I can remember moments that moved me. One I remember, though, is a short story: The southern highway, by Cortázar. It captured, for me, a certain melancholy about city life and the loss of small scale human connection. Made me miss my old, small hometown.

>in the dust
I haven't even read Catcher yet, so I can't comment, but from taking a look it seems neat. By the way isn't it titled "Ask the dust"? That's what popped up when I searched the passage you posted earlier

>> No.18681983

>>18681872
Yes it was ask the dust. My mistake and proof of poor reading comprehension!
I have only just started reading fiction really so I have a lot to read.

I will add that story to my list anon. Thanks for the suggestion it does not seem many want to and I do not blame them.

>> No.18682002

>>18679967
it's just the opposite of entry level

>> No.18682101

>>18682002
I liked heights of despair. It was wonderful I read it again after finishing and took my time.
I could not enjoy his other works though sadly.