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>Have read a lot of buddhist texts and fully believe in it on intellectual level
>Barely ever meditate

im not going to make it am i?

>> No.18632850

>>18632838
You're not the only one. Try to find a sangha in your city, ask for help with the Samatha thing.

>> No.18632857

listen to Thanissaro Bhikkhu Breath Meditation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43EIkSfsSI

>> No.18632873

>>18632838
too much knowledge will make it even harder

>> No.18632876

>>18632857
I know the technique, i just can rarely bring myself to do t.
It almost conjures up some deep anxeity based aversion.
>>18632850
yeah i've been meaning to join a congregation.
there is a sri lankan community one and paid subscription fee (middle class white people) one.
I might attend both.

>> No.18632880

>>18632873
when i do get round to meditating, i do sense things like conditioned dependence and emptiness.

>> No.18632924

>>18632876
If you don't want to focus on your breath, then don't do it! There is so much more to life than sitting and looking at a wall!

>> No.18632951

>>18632876
Then do a different kind of meditation. Focus on the wind on your skin, or jump between sounds as fast as possible, or repeat a phrase, or count up to 5. There are so many meditation techniques available and one of them will work.

>> No.18633000

Have you practiced generosity or kept the precepts? I find that lots of people jump over the first stage of the threefold training, which is virtue.
Even just taking a bug outside your house instead of killing it is an action that can help stabilize the mind

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>meditate every day
>literally don't give a single shit what some streetshitter said about enlightenment
Praise Jesus.

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>>18633000
>>18633022
Hmm, nice

>> No.18633079

whole point of meditating is to get people to deny existence of personal qualities, then artificially assign personal qualities according to a totally unnatural LARP
it's taking totalitarian principles on a personal level and stripping them of their political mechanisms
very terrifying, very sexy, possibly dangerous
similar to toxo

>> No.18633091

>>18633022
>christcuck meditation
Is there anything more pathetic? Doubt it.

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>>18633091
>Is there anything more pathetic?
Yeah, LARPing as a Buddhist while having 0 (zero) connection to the actual culture and the people who practice it. Western Buddhist are complete cringe, and you know it lmao

>> No.18633119

>>18633102
>the essence of religion doesn't fucking matter bro
>tradition>religion

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>>18633119

>> No.18633134

>>18632838
Just reincarnate and try again

>> No.18633152

>>18633134
Damn, best kys post I've seen in a while

>> No.18633182

>>18633102
>*westerner reading the Bible*
>thinks he has any connection to the culture and people within it
Many such cases!

>> No.18633196

>>18633126
No.

>> No.18633207

>>18632838
reminder that ritualized meditating is still turning away from enlightenment.

>> No.18633231

>>18633000
>you gotta do what i tell you or you'll go to hell
literally exactly the same as any other religion. not that it's a bad thing really, normies need to be reigned in so they don't chimp out.

>> No.18633233

>>18632838
Whatever you do can be done mindfully. The meditative mind state is where you just make no distinction between self and non-self. Any kind of productive workflow you get into can be characterized by this mindstate.

Pure meditation (e.g. seated in lotus position) isn't necessary to be a great practitioner.

>> No.18633239

>>18633091
Hum... The Muslim Stations of the Sufists, especially Ibn Arabi (pbuh) describing his own Station being above Mohammed's (saw) by the margin of a linen cloth. Good thing that Ibn Arabi was so humble because a lesser man would've become arrogant.

>> No.18633258

>>18632838
Just live your life by the mandates of wisdom and compassion that are the implication of the truth.

Knowledge of abstract truths does nothing for the world, nothing to raise up the restless milieu of sentient beings, which is the mandate of wisdom and compassion.

>> No.18633260

>>18633022
utterly based

>> No.18633265

>>18632838
>im not going to make it am i?
Well you're a buddhist, so no

>> No.18633419

>>18633265
this. eternal hellfire awaits thee, OhPee

>> No.18633442

>>18632876
Oh when I do the most simple meditation it brings up nearly a panic attack OP and it is quite mentally painful. All of a sudden all my thoughts and sadness are there with no distractions.

If you feel this way OP it is a good thing because you can learn a lot from the anxiety.

My advice is realize it will suck for the first 2-3 weeks but do it anyway and it gets easier quite quickly

>> No.18633471

>>18633442
>>18632838
Do you have a specific chant, sutta, method or w/e you are following?

>> No.18633574

>>18633091
read Conference of the Birds and book of Genesis in the Bible

>> No.18633739

>>18633574
What's the best lesson from Genisis?

>> No.18633751

>>18633739
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2037&version=NLT

>> No.18633850

>>18632838
>and fully believe in it on intellectual level
You have fully wasted your time.

>> No.18633852

>>18633751
I read it but don't get it. Is it some ego id superego thing?

>> No.18633878

>>18633739
Don’t do real estate deals for porridge. Ganhy

>> No.18633909

>>18632838
The idea that Buddhism = Meditation is a product of the 20th century. Associated with the movement for the purification of Theravada Buddhism, first in Burma, then in Lanka and Thailand.
In many (I think in the majority) traditional Theravada monasteries, monks do not meditate at all (!).
(I'm not talking about Mahayana schools - they have their own practices in different).
So Buddhism without meditation is just the same traditional Buddhism, although I am not saying that this is good or bad. Just a fact.
Yes, samadhi is part of the eightfold path, but this is not the whole path, and perhaps in the current life it will be more correct to focus on other aspects. I think there are people who have seriously hurt themselves with meditation.

>> No.18634784

>>18633878
So the whole Bible is just jewy faggots like Jacob and Joseph? Yikes.

>> No.18634893

>>18632838
Of course you "believe in it". When you read a lot of the same content, you literally re-wire your brain. You're just recognizing patterns and becoming more familiar with a Buddhist way of thinking.
But if you don't practice your religion, then I don't think you really believe in it. You just agree with what you read, but you never GO THERE. If you really believed, you would live there, but you don't. So it doesn't really matter what you say you believe.

>> No.18634974

>>18633231
Well the difference is that in Buddhism you don't go to hell you just cause a being to be born that will suffer for trillions upon trillions of years

>> No.18634982

>>18634974
Cosmologically speaking you are already almost in hell as a human. But hells are neither permanent nor indefinite in Buddhism. But you'd have to fuck up pretty badly to get the gorillion years in hell rebirth.