/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18628139]

Hi /lit/ was going through the nonfiction wiki and while I enjoyed the occult and relgion section I did not see a true crime recommended reading. Any suggestions? I love wacky totally out there books like The Ultimate Evil, Chaos: Charles Manson, The CIA, and the secret history of the 60s. Helter Skelter kind of books.
Give me crazy CIA wild conspiracy theory books anything. I want to think like a cop solving a case

[Anonymous No.18628356]

>>18628139
It's not wacky, but it is good.

[Anonymous No.18628371]

Programmed to Kill

[Anonymous No.18629901]

>>18628356
Nice am looking up this quadruple murder now. I did not know about this one appreciate it! This is the stuff I like

>>18628371
>Serial Killers/Mass Murderers appear to have strong connections with the Military, Intelligence Agencies, Drug Trafficking, Sex Rings
This is going to be food as well. Thanks

[Anonymous No.18631252]

Interested

[Anonymous No.18631504]

>>18628139
the crying of lot 49 by pynchon

[Anonymous No.18632407]

>>18628371
This, I got around 100 pages into it and had to take a break. Too much convincing information, very well written and presented.

[Anonymous No.18633009]

>>18631504
I think id enjoy this. Was it similar to inherent vice

[Anonymous No.18633020]

Here y'go.

[Anonymous No.18633121]

>>18628139
Based, I actually was coming to /lit/ to specifically make this exact thread. I loved Chaos and Helter Skelter. Ultimate Evil was a lot of fun to read but the guy is clearly insane and loses the plot after the Carr murders, and just starts connecting dots that aren't there based on nothing but jailhouse testimony. Unfortunate because I really think the book adn investigation were valid up until the point they started getting into California and the Arlis Perry stuff. But still a fun read.

>>18628356
this is okay, I'm sure it was revolutionary at the time since it was the first "true crime" book out there as we use the term today. It's more of a novel though than an objective look into the case. Fun enough that it's worth reading but I wouldn't make it a priority.

I just finished pic related and thought it was a great read. I couldn't put it down. It's about a murderer and serial rapist in Japan, but it goes far beyond just the case and it highlights the context of the law and police in Japan, as well as going really far into detail about the cultural differences in places like strip clubs and bars from the west vs the east. I think I finished it in a week. Complete page turner. Now I don't know what to move on to next.

[Anonymous No.18633139]

>>18633121
oh yeah and to add to this post, if you really just want some quick and easy true crime stuff the Mind Hunter books are cool. They're incredibly repetitive, so I'd suggest just getting Mindhunter and then picking through the rest of his catalog sparingly, because he really does just basically play his greatest hits throughout the rest of his books (telling son of sam to "cut the shit", ed kemper's interview, etc appear in almost every book I've ready by the guy)

I think from this guy I've read Mindhunter, The Killer Across the Table, The Cases that Haunt us and 1 or 2 others. From the list I'd definitely recommend Mindhunter just because it's his seminal work and the foundation for every single thing he's written since. Killer across the table is pretty skippable as it's mostly him rehashing oldcases with 1 or 2 new ones he looks at in the later chapters. I think my favorite was The Cases that Haunt us though because he looks back through cases in history as if he was approaching them as an investigation he was working on and it's interesting to hear his thoughts on things like the Lindbergh baby and Jack the Ripper.

[Anonymous No.18633148]

>>18629901
>>Serial Killers/Mass Murderers appear to have strong connections with the Military, Intelligence Agencies, Drug Trafficking, Sex Rings
>This is going to be food as well. Thanks
Sounds similar to Weird Scenes in the Canyon by David McGowen

[Anonymous No.18633807]

>>18633148
same author

[Anonymous No.18633869]

>>18633807
Oh, that makes sense then. I found weird scenes to be interesting but a lot of "dude trust me" on the specifics. Is Programmed to Kill similar?

[Anonymous No.18635312]

>>18633121
I agree on Ultimate evil its fun because having some satanic occult group pulling strings in shadows filming snuff films around the grimy streets of new York sounds terrifying and an awesome read but the writer is a madman. Honestly I think Maury Terry went crazy doing research into this case and it shows but I had fun

[Anonymous No.18635370]

>>18628139
Bump

[Anonymous No.18635424]

>>18633121
I'll put it on the tbr list. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.18635845]

>>18633121
>Ultimate Evil was a lot of fun to read but the guy is clearly insane and loses the plot after the Carr murders, and just starts connecting dots that aren't there based on nothing

There is some truth to this. But he also knew more than he put in the book, he withheld certain names and places, because by this point he was paranoid for his and his families life. So yeah, he makes assertions in the book but doesn't really back them up toward the end.
Thankfully other people have followed through with the research since that time and it isn't too hard to find the names of the families and their associates he considered responsible if you go down the Son of Sam rabbit hole.

[Anonymous No.18635895]

>>18628139
programmed to kill by Dave McGowan or weird scenes from the canyon

[Anonymous No.18636556]

>>18628371
Could not recommend this more, everyone should read it, well at least everyone should read his elite pedo ring sections at the beginning

[Anonymous No.18637430]

>>18635845
Yeah he withheld the names and stuff and didn't print everything he knew (both because he was hopeful that the info could still be used for convictions down the line and like you said he was scared for his life) but the majority of that info, and even the info that he did put in the book, came solely from jailhouse testimony which is the least reliable source of information there is

[Anonymous No.18637439]

Seriously guys? I’m ashamed of you. This is essential

[Anonymous No.18637444]

>>18633020
I keep seeing this shilled. What’s the QRD?