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can fan fiction be...good?

>> No.18593356

>>18593342
anything can be good

>> No.18593395

>>18593356
Can evil be good?

>> No.18593401

Paradise Lost is fan fiction and it's good

>> No.18593433

>>18593342
Yeah
Lots of major literature is fanfiction
e.g. the aeneid, dante's inferno

>> No.18594183

>>18593342
My favorite is tails gets trolled

>> No.18594193

>>18593395
yes

>> No.18594194

>>18593342
some fanfic authors have turned out to become decent or outright good traditionally published authors.


they're usually women though so most of you would hate their work on principle

>> No.18594210

>>18594183
this

>> No.18594212

>>18594194
name 5 examples

>> No.18594216

Yes, sometimes they can even exceed the source material.
This is very rare however.

>> No.18594278

>>18593342
yeah, I've read some really good ones.
all gay, obviously, but really good.

>> No.18594550

>>18593342
Harvey Dent, can we trust him?

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>>18593342
I met a guy in a TF2 match, googled his username, found an FFnet account and read his smut starring Toy Chica from FNaF.


it was

>> No.18594589

>>18593401
So is Virgil's Aeneid.

>> No.18594642

>>18593342
Your gonna have to wade through all the garbage. Fanfiction sites have been here for quite a while.

>> No.18594663

>>18593342
They can be, but once you've accepted that they're good then you've fallen too deep into what fandom you're apart of.

>> No.18594762

>>18594589
That was a commissioned fanfic. Rarely do they get paid,

>> No.18594783

>>18593342
it can but it's rare as fuck.

>> No.18594805

Divine Comedy is self-insert fanfic and it's, well it's the Divine Comedy

>> No.18594824

>>18594805
Exactly it's complete shit written by an imbecile.

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Fanfiction is only good if your content on wading through oceans of shit to find that one golden fic, at least online anyway, the other anons already said their piece on the classical side. Oh and just to let you know, the longest work of literature to DATE is a fucking fanfic that's OVER 10 MILLION PLUS FUCKING WORDS! IT WAS MADE IN LATE 2017. TO ALL THE WRITERS HERE! YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE! A FUCKING FANFIC WRITER! 10 MILLION WORDS! OVER A PERIOD OF FOUR YEARS!

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>>18595399
That doesn't mean anything, they're all shit words written by one of those autists who are given either ridiculous self confidence or no shame. Like the ones that walk around with body pillows outdoors and shit.

>> No.18595902

>>18593342
Divine Comedy is.

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>>18594194
>some fanfic authors have turned out to become decent or outright good traditionally published authors.
>they're usually women though so most of you would hate their work on principle

>> No.18595942

>>18594824
KEK

>> No.18596180

>>18594559
id?

>> No.18596496

>>18593342
Could this be

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>>18593342
You could draw parallels between fanfic and (pic)

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>>18593342
This one as well.

>> No.18596520

Most truly talented fanfiction writers eventually move on to original fiction, anyway. The cream always rises to the top in the literary world.

>> No.18596524

>>18593342
hardly

>> No.18597107

>>18595864
and those words were read by thousands of people while you shitposted on /lit/ and did nothing

>> No.18597206

Is anyone going to provide an actual example beyond reddit-tier 'le Bible fanfic' jokes? We all know what is meant by fanfic. It doesn't even have to be Internet age, it could be OG Star Trek slashfic or some shit
Also what the fuck is this captcha

>> No.18597243

>>18597206
I'm going through my old Fanfiction.net favorites right now, seeing if anything holds up. You want something more /a/ related, more /co/ related, what are you looking for?

>> No.18597802

>>18597243
/a/ I suppose, but I'm just curious to see fanfic that you guys think has any literary merit, even for a property I don't care about. I guess it would be like that one NGE doujin that's suppose to work really well as an ending

>> No.18597826

>>18593342
Dante’s Divine Comedy? No, of course not.

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>>18597802
Well, "literary merit" is a nebulous thing. Do you mean something worthy of the Canon, or something that would fit on a lesser tier, like a Roth/Updike/DeLillo tier? Because it seems like some of the "fanfics" mentioned in here already, that are already in the Canon, would qualify for the former.

For the latter, speaking of Evangelion, I've always thought this story was pretty good. Somewhat twisted and troublesome:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1259313/1/The-Lifespan-of-a-Love-Affair

>> No.18597904

>>18593342
If you're piggy backing on something already good or well received, and it's anything but good, it only shows you're the problem/you lack the skill or talent

>> No.18598063

>>18594805
>>18595942
reddit

>> No.18598369

Is Ulysses fanfiction of the Odyssey?

>> No.18598533

>>18598369
No it was written word for word by the exact same man as the Iliad and all of those Hymns, he was a blind dude but he saw more than all of us lmao

>> No.18598691

>>18598369
No, more like it derives inspiration from the Odyssey, but tells its own story.

>> No.18599642

>>18593395
reported

>> No.18599664

Yes
The Changing Lights is one of my favourite pieces of fiction I've ever read, 10/10 masterpiece although the ending was rushed a bit

>> No.18599680

>>18593342
HPMoR is better than the original Harry Potter

>> No.18599710

>>18594559
I like it with the beak on.

>> No.18599718

Has anyone else tried writing fanfiction before?
I tried to write a fanfiction where Draco is trans and tries to transition magically but his parents disown him and she ends up falling in love with Harry Potter as some kind of ultimate enemies to lovers except Harry is more twisted and dark and aggressively hateful in this timeline but it's just so difficult to write prose
I just fail completely, no idea of how much detail you're meant to use versus details that don't matter and dialogue is just impossible
Any tips?
Trying to keep the characters true to themselves is really hard

>> No.18599752

>>18599718
Kek.
Yes I have written horse fanfiction. My prose are dreadful, and that's why I stick to diary entries or greentext dialogue.

>> No.18599770

>>18599718
Sure. It's easy whenever you play Max Landis' "Flip the Premise." https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRZ1zVsS0k

>> No.18601335

>>18599718
I have an entire Fanfiction.net account. I don't update it as often as I used to, since I write original fiction mostly these days. But I've had it since like 2007 or so, and occasionally I'll write something new out.

>> No.18601360

>>18593395
yes, because moral can be flexible, you idiot.

>> No.18601388

>>18599680
Double this. Power or skip through the shitty beginning and you will be rewarded with a villain rowling literally couldn't even dream of writing.

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>>18593342
>can fan fiction be...good?

sure if its buck breaking. Everything involving buck breaking is based.

>> No.18601404

>>18595399
>10 mil words
>4 years
>Almost 7000 words a day
Jfc autism truly is smth else

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I'm legitimately astounded this thread hasn't been deleted yet. Are the mods actually going to let us have a fanfiction thread?

>> No.18601655

The answer is yes. Other people here have mentioned famous works that can (debatably) be considered fan fiction, but outside of that it’s entirely possible for high art to be a fan work. The culture of fanfiction websites is overwhelmingly amateur but that doesn’t detract from the sizable amount of good work out there.

>>18594183
Also, this is an unfathomably based take. Tails gets trolled is genuinely a masterpiece and needs an in depth review / breakdown so the masses can broadly understand.

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>>18594183
Based

>> No.18601949

>>18593401
True

>> No.18602755

>>18593342
Yes. The issues are that:
a)Modern IP law means that you will be sued into oblivion if try to get it published properly;
b)Author-primacy mentality leads to many writers refusing to seriously work to create "lesser" iterations of other people works, and;
c)Fanfiction have no barriers of entry, are primarily read(and written) by kids, tweens, and manchildren that don't care that much about reading crap, and most are hobbyists trying to kill time rather than creating "good" literature, leading to a deluge of low quality junk overwhelming any potential nudge of competence

>> No.18602771

The best fan fiction could almost always have been written as a separate work and not worn the skin of someone else's work.

>> No.18603043

>>18599680
This. Unironically it's Yudkowsky's magnum opus, as much as that fact must enrage him.

>> No.18603225

>>18599680
If you liked HPMoR, there's a fanfic of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in a similar style, which I think also exceeds the original work

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13451176/1/Chili-and-the-Chocolate-Factory-Fudge-Revelation

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pic and For Jeromé—with Love and Kisses are fanfiction masterpieces

>> No.18604816

>>18597892
You know, speaking of Evangelion fics, I found a nice Cthulhu Mythos crossover that was pretty entertaining
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13438998/1/NGE-Screams-of-Nightmares

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Only if it's Paradise Lost or Snape/Lily romance.

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I just finished reading this one where Snep fucks an elderly gay house elf polyjuiced into Lily, it's good shit.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/19212370