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18577807 No.18577807 [Reply] [Original]

what is your favorite schopenhauer quote?

>> No.18577829

>>18577807"yo mama"

>> No.18578002
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18578002

>women dumb

>> No.18578092

"God damn, I hate women so fucking much bros." - Arthur Schopenhauer, 1820

>> No.18578108

His opinions about women are the only thing of value

>> No.18578605

>>18577807
"When you find human society disagreeable and feel yourself justified in flying to solitude, you can be so constituted as to be unable to bear the depression of it for any length of time, which will probably be the case if you are young. Let me advise you, then, to form the habit of taking some of your solitude with you into society, to learn to be to some extent alone even though you are in company; not to say at once what you think, and, on the other hand, not to attach too precise a meaning to what others say; rather, not to expect much of them, either morally or intellectually, and to strengthen yourself in the feeling of indifference to their opinion, which is the surest way of always practicing a praiseworthy toleration. If you do that, you will not live so much with other people, though you may appear to move amongst them: your relation to them will be of a purely objective character. This precaution will keep you from too close contact with society, and therefore secure you against being contaminated or even outraged by it. Society is in this respect like a fire—the wise man warming himself at a proper distance from it; not coming too close, like the fool, who, on getting scorched, runs away and shivers in solitude, loud in his complaint that the fire burns."
— Arthur Schopenhauer

>> No.18579540

anyone got that schopenhauer quote about how smart people prefer the company of idiots?

>> No.18579554
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18579554

>women dumb

>> No.18579557
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18579557

From the superior Shopenhauer

>> No.18579566

>>18579557
why does this turn me on so much bros

>> No.18579577

>>18577807
I liked the thing about the oak tree and the weeds. I don't remember quotes verbatim, it's pointless, especially when I'd just be remembering a translation. The idea is nice. I like to imagine I'm the oak, and everyone else is a forgettable weed.

>> No.18579632

>>18577807

"Kant's weak side is that in which Goethe is great, and vice versa"

"[Kant is] the most important philosophical phenomenon to have appeared in philosophy for 2000 years"

"Hegel's philosophy is absolute nonsense - 3/4 of it empty and 1/4 insane notions."

"Hegel had no spirit at all."

"Hegel was a wind-bag and a charlatan"

Not a fan of his philosophy, so my favorite quotes are not about his thoughts or himself.

>> No.18579686

>>18579557
>yeah but people don't like you
Women: Not Even Once
Read>>18578605

>> No.18579698

>>18579557
Lmao, absolutely rekt

>> No.18579701

>>18579686
If you were less like you, you would only be ridiculous, but thus as you are, you are highly annoying, anon.

>> No.18579711

>>18579557
She could certainly write; one has to give her that

>> No.18579717

"Hegel is a bedlam mad man" - Great Gbola outbreak of 18whenever

>> No.18579721

>>18577807
"Hegel's metaphysical castles..."
Burned into my psyche

>> No.18579723

>>18579711
The only thing women are capable of writing about is their hate towards incels. I'd like to see mama schops write about literally anything else, I doubt it will have the same impact.

>> No.18579737

>>18577807
>when a Spinozist conflates cause and reason near me

>> No.18579746

>>18579723
Well he himself even recognized that any of his rhetorical flair he inherited from her. This is the significance of his hypothetical utopian doctrine of breeding the "cleverest" women with the "most magnanimous" of men

>> No.18579757

>>18579557
literally me

>> No.18579853

>>18578108
retard

>> No.18579884

>>18577807
>The sensations in the hand of a man born blind, on feeling an object of cubic shape, are quite uniform and the same on all sides and in every direction: the edges, it is true, press upon a smaller portion of his hand, still nothing at all like a cube is contained in these sensations. His Understanding, however, draws the immediate and intuitive conclusion from the resistance felt, that this resistance must have a cause, which then presents itself through that conclusion as a hard body; and through the movements of his arms in feeling the object, while the hand's sensation remains unaltered, he constructs the cubic shape in Space, which is known to him à priori. If the representation of a cause and of Space, together with their laws, had not already existed within him, the image of a cube could never have proceeded from those successive sensations in his hand. If a rope be drawn through his hand, he will construct, as the cause of the friction he feels and of its duration, a long cylindrical body, moving uniformly in the same direction in that particular position of his hand. But the representation of movement, i.e. of change of place in Space by means of Time, never could arise for him out of the mere sensation in his hand; for that sensation can neither contain, nor can it ever by itself alone produce any such thing. It is his intellect which must, on the contrary, contain within itself, before all experience, the intuitions of Space, Time, and together with them that of the possibility of movement.

I found this intensely profound when I was 16. Before I read Kant, though. Still one of my favourite lines from Schoppy's thesis.

>> No.18579890

>>18579884
I know it isn't a pithy quote, but I really enjoyed this specific part of his doctoral thesis because he uses a blind man as an example to prove time, space and causality's a priori nature.

>> No.18580006

>>18578092
“Good morning I hate women”
-Arthur Schopenhauer

>> No.18580014

>>18579723
Schops wasn't an incel, he was just rejected for marriage but all the men back then fucked whores.

>> No.18580023
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18580023

BASED

>> No.18580158

>>18580014
>Schops wasn't an incel, he was just rejected for marriage but all the men back then fucked whores.
This. Even Van Gogh fucked whores.

>> No.18580193

>>18577807
*ting ting* ahem FUCK HEGEL

>> No.18580258

Can I read Essays and Aphorisms as a self-contained work even though I am not ready to read The Will?

>> No.18580264

>>18580158
Van Gogh let a whore live off of the allowance his brother gave him lol

>> No.18580267

>>18580023
True to some degree but also think this quote is lacking some context that makes it more nuanced than it sounds

>> No.18580450

>>18578605
kino

>> No.18580543

>>18578605
Perfectly describes what i've basically been doing for the past couple of years to cope with people. Yeah, i'm thinking he was based.

>> No.18580554

>>18578605
>"Everyone who doesn't do the thing that I'm doing is a fool"

>> No.18580574

>>18580023
What would he say about Planck? What about Verdi? What about... etc. The only thing more embarrassing than that quote are the people on /v/ who manage to post it without a single thought passing through their heads.

>> No.18580971

>>18578605
Great quote.

>> No.18582117

>>18579557
>she is only remembered as Schopenhauer's mother and nothing else
History always vindicates the Right.

>> No.18582208

>>18579884
Good stuff.

>> No.18582304

>>18579557
fuck man this hurts so much
god damn she is LETHAL
fucking cunt

>> No.18582326

>>18579884
why did I pop a chub reading this?
did I just have an epiphany?

>> No.18582364

>>18580023
easy to say in the 1800s

>> No.18582420

>The abolition of Latin as the universal language of learned men, together with the rise of that provincialism which attaches to national literatures, has been a real misfortune for the cause of knowledge in Europe. For it was chiefly through the medium of the Latin language that a learned public existed in Europe at all—a public to which every book as it came out directly appealed. The number of minds in the whole of Europe that are capable of thinking and judging is small, as it is; but when the audience is broken up and severed by differences of language, the good these minds can do is very much weakened. This is a great disadvantage; but a second and worse one will follow, namely, that the ancient languages will cease to be taught at all. The neglect of them is rapidly gaining ground in France and Germany.
>If it should really come to this, then farewell, humanity! Farewell, noble taste and high thinking! The age of barbarism will return, in spite of railways, telegraphs and balloons. We shall thus in the end lose one more advantage possessed by all our ancestors. For Latin is not only a key to the knowledge of Roman antiquity; it also directly opens up to us the Middle Age in every country in Europe, and modern times as well, down to about the year 1750. Erigena, for example, in the ninth century, John of Salisbury in the twelfth, Raimond Lully in the thirteenth, with a hundred others, speak straight to us in the very language that they naturally adopted in thinking of learned matters. They thus come quite close to us even at this distance of time: we are in direct contact with them, and really come to know them. How would it have been if every one of them spoke in the language that was peculiar to his time and country? We should not understand even the half of what they said. A real intellectual contact with them would be impossible. We should see them like shadows on the farthest horizon, or, may be, through the translator's telescope.

>> No.18582443

>>18578605
sigma male af

>> No.18582557

>>18579632
>"Kant's weak side is that in which Goethe is great, and vice versa"
where did he write this?

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>>18582364
If anything countries have gotten even more corrupt in the last 200 years. They don't even bother manipulating us in secret anymore.

Pic unrelated.

>> No.18582633

The doctor sees all the weakness of mankind; the lawyer all the wickedness, the theologian all the stupidity.

>> No.18583268

>>18582600
>pic unrelated
>posted a webm
What did he mean by this?

>> No.18584659

>>18582600
pic very related

>> No.18584666

>>18578605
I’ve always been the fool, but fuck me if I don’t keep going back to the fire.

>> No.18584677

>>18579557
Mommy?

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>>18577807
>>18578002
>>18579557
It's the special kind of hard hitting truth that encourages people to victimize themselves over it when they try to negate it, only to prove it more true than if they said nothing at all.

>> No.18584815

>>18584733
I genuinely believe he was right about women except for the part that they are more stupid than men.

What does that say about me?

>> No.18584825

>>18584815
You’re either a tranny, larper or god forbid a woman

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>>18584815
Well it's not women who gave women those rights now was it?

>> No.18585779

>>18584815
>What does that say about me?
That you haven't met many women

>> No.18585845

>>18582600
Oh say can you see...

>> No.18586670

>>18584815
Women generally aren't more stupid than men, but there are more male geniuses than female- so every person who would have impressed Schopenhauer intellectually would have been a man (apart from the lady who sculpted his head later in his life).

>> No.18586761

"In every animal being the will has acquired an intellect, and this intellect is the light by means of which it pursues its goals here. - Incidentally, fear of death might be due in part to the fact that the individual will is so reluctant to part from the intellect that has come to it in the course of nature, from its leader and guard, without which it knows it will be helpless and blind."

Since the will continues on after death, and since the intellect is something physical (brain) which dies with the body, the fear of death is the will's fear of having to continue on blindly as it does typically in nature. I like this interpretation of fear of death

>> No.18586774

>>18586761
"Time is thus the form that makes self-cognition possible for the individual will, which originally and in itself lacks cognition. Through time, its intrinsically simple and self-identical essence appears separated out over the course of a life. But precisely due to the original simplicity and self-identity of the thing presented in this way, its character always remains exactly the same; which is why a life history retains the same ground tones throughout, and in fact the many different events and scenes of a life are fundamentally like variations on one and the same theme."

this resonated with me too, especially if you read it in conjunction with what Schelling had to say about character in his essay on human freedom. For myself I have always noticed a particular recurring theme in my life that is very unnerving if left unexplained by these two philosophies.

>> No.18586785
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18586785

>Poverty of mind, confusion and perversity of thought will clothe themselves in the most far-fetched expressions and obscure forms of speech, in order to clothe in difficult and pompous phrases small, trifling, insipid, or commonplace ideas. It is like the man who lacks the majesty of beauty, and wishes to make up for this deficiency by clothing; he attempts to cover up the insignificance or ugliness of his person under barbaric finery, tinsel, feathers, ruffles, cuffs, and mantles. Thus many an author, if compelled to translate his pompous and obscure book into its little clear content, would be as embarrassed as that man would be if he were to go about naked.

[WWR vol 1 book 3]

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>>18586785
Also:

>For the power of truth is incredibly great and of unutterable endurance. We find traces of it again in all, even the most bizarre and absurd, dogmas of different times and countries, often indeed in strange company, curiously mixed up but yet recognizable. It is then like a plant that germinates under a heap of large stones, but yet climbs up towards the light, working itself through with many deviations and windings, disfigured, bleached, stunted in growth- but yet towards the light.

>> No.18586852

>>18586824
Bro which Truth Schopenhauer was talking about?

>> No.18587081

>>18586852
The one where the metaphysical nature of the world is best described as 'Will', and that experience of this world is a form of 'Representation'. Hope that helps anon.

>> No.18587168

>>18580258
yes

>> No.18588147

>>18580023
Nationalists were the libtards of his day

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>> No.18588238

>>18579540
>>18579540
>>18579540

reeee nobody has posted this yet

>> No.18588250

>>18588223
>Western crudity and barbarity

Imagine if Schopenhauer ever discovered how animals are treated in China or Southern America.

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>>18578605
Copied and pasted the quote into google to find the book source, and google recommended me a Mental Health and Substance Abuse hotline.

lol.

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>>18588515

>> No.18588628

>>18577807
>This world, with all its suns and galaxies is — nothing.

>> No.18588785

>>18588238
"Men of very great capacity, will as a rule, find the company
of very stupid people preferable to that of the common run;
for the same reason that the tyrant and the mob, the grand-
father and the grandchildren, are natural allies."

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>>18582420
Does anyone have that video of that professor, I think it was either from Harvard or Yale where he mentions how its students used to be required for all subjects to read Latin fluently and some Greek I think.
He spoke of how historians will likely regard our age as the beginning of a dark age of barbarism, in which the wisdom and languages of antiquity will be forgone for the sake of the material world and the sciences. Also says that we will be likely regarded as children playing with our technological toys, without any true education. I thought it was very precise

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>>18586670
>IQ bugman who believes that you can quantify intelligence or genius based on the degree to which you can manipulate shapes or recognise a pattern of change subsequently makes sweeping generalisations as to the intelligence of either sex and how many 'geniuses' can be found in each

>> No.18590146

>>18589873
tits or get the fuck out roastie

>> No.18590236

>>18582600
webm saved

>> No.18590288

>>18588785
thank you based anon

>> No.18590293

>>18588250
>Imagine if Schopenhauer ever discovered how animals are treated in China or Southern America.
He would have condemned them as well.

>> No.18590382

Was Schops the one who had the quote that went something along the lines of:

"One should seek to avoid anything bad books in order to maximize the amount of good books they'll read in a lifetime"

?

>> No.18590406

>>18590382
Did not mean to write "anything" in the quote.