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If you are not popular with Mihai Eminescu and his work read his poem Luceafarul(Lucifer/The morning or evening star/basically referring to Venus).
Here is the poem:
https://www.estcomp.ro/eminescu/cuclin1.html
What do you think about this poem?
in my opinion this poem represents this hellhole perfectly
also general discussion on romanian lit

>> No.18509407

May I post the second greatest poem in Romanian language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOhyDKPwTIE

>I am a thousand years old, that's all
>And others come upon me
>Under Theobald, the Goth king,
>I grew up in reservations,
>Under Theobald, the Goth king,
>I grew up in reservations.

>So much happened in all these years,
>Of which I know nothing;
>Now I am displayed for money
>On a stand at Moși
>Now I am displayed for money
>On a stand at Moși

>The ghost of death doesn't bother me
>I don't know its feared scythe,
>I am the tor...
>I am the tor...
>I am the tortoise.

>> No.18509423

Is Mircea Cărtărescu worth reading?

>> No.18509495

>>18509393
I only know about this guy because there's a statue of him in the city I live. I'll probably look into his stuff

>> No.18509796

>>18509393
The poem reads like the lyrics of some folk / prog fantasy themed band from the 70s, it's just kinda cheesy and over the top. In general you Romanians seem overly sentimental, even Eliade reads the same way.

>> No.18509829

>>18509393
I always thought there was a connection from Satan to Aphrodite (venus). This just confirms my suspicions that all women are evil seductresses.

I will cease all existing attempts to lay a mistress to continue in my pursuit of enlightenment through 2d bussy

>> No.18509865

>>18509829
the Lucifer name in this poem refers to a demon trough the fact that he is an incubus. in the poem Luceafarul the incubus is the "victim"
Eminescu wrote another poem with a similar title(Un luceafar/ A Lucifer) In this poem the star is a women( probably the goddess Venus)

>> No.18511274

>>18509393
:Mihai Eminescu
Overrated garbage.

>> No.18511277

>>18509796
Spot on.

>> No.18511670

you will never be italians

>> No.18511679

>>18509423
No.

>> No.18511747

>>18509407
Honestly terrible.

>> No.18511760

>>18509796
>bugman can't into authentic spirit

>> No.18511778

>>18509393
cioran and eliade are the only romanian writers relevant to the universal literature
ironically, romanians are too busy riding creanga, sadoveanu and slavici dicks to even notice them
sad, very sad considering that those faggots don't even have talent

>> No.18511781

Temele abordate de catre autorii romani sunt plictisitoare si neinteresante, de altfel lucrurile lor relevante sunt inspirate de lucrarile care erau la moda in europa occidentala. Apoi scuteste-ma de lentila romantata cu care privesc autorii romani pe tarani.

Cati autori romani poti spune ca au compus de amorul artei? de altfel din punctul meu de vedere multe lucrari studiate in liceu ar fi fost mai bune ca si filme decat carti.

>> No.18511854

>>18509423
Yes.

>> No.18511997

Why are all of your best writers called Mircea?

>> No.18512022

>>18509796
Same with codreanu despite him representing an entirely different genre (?) Romanians have some sort of anachronistic almost characterized Latin spirit. Even today it's by far the most religious country in Europe. Romanian orthodoxism really fits them well because their orthodox church basically has a parallel state within the legal state. It's an interesting nation but it can't find its place. Democracy and liberalism were forced upon them but it doesn't work at all for them, you can see how corrupt they still are and only about 30% people even bother to vote. They need to be ruled by fanatic religious autocrat but that's not going to happen in modern Europe.

>> No.18512025

>>18512022
>characterized
caricatured

>> No.18512062

>>18511781
>phonefag
although you are right it still doesn't excuse the fact that you are a troglodyte zoomer

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18512114

>>18509393
>If you are not popular with Mihai Eminescu and his work read his poem Luceafarul(Lucifer/The morning or evening star/basically referring to Venus).

>> No.18512125
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18512125

>>18509393
Hey that's me

>> No.18512226
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18512226

>>18509393
Don't post translations of poems you dorks.
Poetry isn't meant to be read in translation, besides why would monolingual ameritards Anglos even care?

Scrie în Romană, Numai noi putem înțelege frumusețea limbii noastre

Grădiște
din ciclul Cîntecul focului de Lucian Blaga

Sînt ostenit ca drumul și uscat ca praful.
Mai sînt izvoare pe pămîntul nostru?
Întreb și caut. Frunze-nlătur cu piciorul.
Foi ruginite cad, se-ngroașă vraful.

E tristă luna azi în Dacia
cînd trece peste plai și stînă.
Sub cîte-o piatră de altar, subt capiște păgînă,
se spune că mai gîlgîie pe-alocuri apa,
mai murmură la obîrșii prin munți,
dar nu în vale, în fîntînă.

De-o apă-mi este sete,
de apa izvorîtă din argint, din munte
ce leagăn fost-a seminției noastre.
Se profilează-n zări piscuri cărunte.

Urcușul pînă-n pragul unui zeu
pe coama muntelui e greu.
De mînă și la pas cu tine -
n-aș pierde însă niciodat' cărarea
prin aluniș și tufa de afine.
Ne-am poticni din cînd în cînd, dar nu ne-am pierde.
Pe vîrfuri sacre, în albastru, ne-ar călăuzi
un nor pe sus, jos mușchiul verde
și fagii zvelți si-nalți, ce mai păstrează
în chipul lor o aminitire trează
de mari coloane din vechime.

Sub pași, pe-acolo, mai răsună,
subt bolovani și flori,
acoperite bolți. Sînt tainițe de mii de ani,
adăpostind în ele amfore rotunde,
în care tu întreagă,
ai încăpea sau pîn' la subsuori.
(Mă-ncearcă un surîs fără temei.
Mai trebuie s-o spun?
În amforele de argilă se păstrau
pe vremuri nu femei,
ci alte bunuri ale dimineții,
aidoma femeilor: grîul cetății, pînea vieții.)

Călcînd prin rouă și prin iarbă poate că am sparge
chiar noi, subt talpa noastră, cupa de roșiatic lut
din care aprigul, tăcutul rege își bău
durerea-nfrîngerii pe scut.
(Dacii cătau prin șuierul de brazi
să schimbe magic o viață în legendă,
în jurul regelui dansînd pe cataligi,
frenetic și-n extaz.)

Ne va fi dat s-ajungem și pe culme într-o zi?
Pe-o treaptă sus vom iscodi
ce-a fost cîndva și nu mai este:
templul de aur pe priporul din poveste.
Îl sprijineau vreo patruzeci și nouă de coloane,
înfățișare-avînd de vipere ce pline de ardoare
în vîrful cozilor s-ar ridica în soare.

Pe-o lespede șezînd acolo lîngă tine,
voi prinde iarăși grai: iată supremele izvoare!
Și umbra inimii mi-o voi vedea
în palma ta căzînd.
Prielnic peste frunte ne va bate vînt.

Iar noaptea, în același loc, ne-or lumina,
lucind din prunduri și din unde,
comorile-ngropate în matca rîului ceresc.
Murmurul nostru, visul, se va-mpărtăși
din nemurire printre greierii ce cîntă
și printre zei, cari, fără temple, mai trăiesc.


https://youtu.be/8zSC6cDhtJc

>> No.18512230

>>18509796
That's just romanticism

>> No.18512249

>>18511778
They are honorary Frenchmen, to us they can fuck off.
They betrayed our Country, our people, The Iron Guard and ultimately their kin to go have sex with French art hoes in Paris and write self depreciating faggy nihilist bs or practice kamasutra with street shitters in India.
Bunch of cowards, they wouldn't admit to their support of Codreanu.

They are not romanian

>> No.18512277

>>18512249
Ce bazat și roșupastilat

>> No.18512361

>>18512249
Based, "universal literature" just means being in line and supporting Anglo Judaic values

>> No.18512561
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18512561

I like this picture of him better

>> No.18512566

>>18512561
Every Romanian man past the age of 30

>> No.18512708

>>18512277
kek
asta intra in arhiva

>> No.18512776
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18512776

>din ce în ce mai mult

>> No.18513677

do you guys think that petrescu, calinescu and rebreanu are any good?

>> No.18513685

>>18513677
Rebreanu is great, Forest of the Hanged is one of my favorite novels. The other two, no.
Totuși citește-i pentru bac.

>> No.18513701

>>18513685
>mention nothing about my age
>still manages to figure out I'm a zoomer
I think I'm retarded
any other recommendations?

>> No.18513751

>>18513701
Basmele (și folclorul în general, fie doine, snoave sau balade), Blaga, Cioran, Caragiale, Creanga, Preda, Bacovia, Arghezi și piesele de teatru ale lui Sorescu are my favorites.

>> No.18513761

>>18513701
Ficțiunea scrisă de Eliade și romanele lui Gib Mihăescu mai sunt bune.

>> No.18513763

>>18512249
>>18512277
>>18512361
Hai, mars inapoi pe /pol/, ca asta e thread de oameni mari.

>> No.18513787

>>18509423
No, he's talentless

>> No.18513797

>>18513763
Îmi băteam joc de autistu care se lua de Eliade și Cioran cu ”bazat și roșupastilat”. Nici nu știu ce e rău că Eliade a studiat în India și că n-au rămas în România după !945.

>> No.18513807

>>18511760
Spirit doesnt require superfluous baubles. It's in the substance not the decoration.

>>18512230
Nope. Even Ol' Holderlin is much more restrained.

>> No.18513854

Can you travel to Romania without vaccine and shit right now? I'm from a greenlisted country I think

>> No.18513928
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18513928

I would like to throw in the note I found in my used copy of Eminescu’s poems

>> No.18513951
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18513951

Kek thread on Romanian lit with OP pic that looks like gypsycrusader.

>> No.18513989

Sa va fut de zoomeri ordinari, pisamas pe voi si pe intelegerea voastra limitata de literatura romaneasca. Pariez ca sunteti femei.
Mods, do your thing

>> No.18514125

>>18513763
>asta e thread de oameni mari
du-te în pula mea, suntem pe 4chan tipule.
Stai de vorbă cu zoomers și poponari care nu citesc.

>> No.18514259

>>18513928
are you a woman?

>> No.18514690

bump for this bullshit

>> No.18514712
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18514712

>>18513989
>literatura romaneasca
sigur nu e literatura romana
ironic ca zici de altii ca au intelegerea limitata

>> No.18514755

>>18513763

Ce proasta e ma-ta, pisa-te-as in gat de sclav muist care suge pula la negri si linge in cur transexualii. Stai sa vezi cand ajung si la noi in tara si or s-o futa pe ma-ta capra dupa o arunca in sant moarta, sa vezi atunci daca mai esti tare in gura si zici "du-te inapoi pe /pol/", fmm de drona proasta ce esti.

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18514837

>>18514755
Vai de mine

>> No.18515064

>>18509423
yes, whoever says otherwise is a moldovan or, worse, romanian

>> No.18515227

>>18514755
>Stai sa vezi cand ajung si la noi in tara
au ajuns deja
Timisoara zici ca i Londra in pula mea
e toata plina de arabi si vietnamezi
in ultima vreme au imceput sa apara si pakistanezi si ndieni(de paraca n aveam destui)
si sa nu mai vorbesc de negri, vad cate doi pe zi

>> No.18515827

>keeping the thread alive

>> No.18517208

>>18512114
Am sa-ti fut toti tati in cur,si am sa o pun pe ma-ta (curva) sa se uite ca proasta

>> No.18517832

Romanian seems like a cool language and it has an interesting culture and history but all Romanians alive today seem like absolute retards.

>> No.18518286

>>18517832
>implying they aren't

>> No.18518311

>>18517832
We are, now fuck off

>> No.18518319

>>18517832
Romanians be like
>gib monis kurwa
you broke ass niggas

>> No.18518326

>>18518319
Sugi pula

>> No.18518329

>>18518319
Isn't that polish

>> No.18518343

>>18518329
that's what the kowalskis want you to believe

>> No.18518356

>>18515064
Stop looking down on moldovans

>> No.18518822

>>18511670
lol what is this triggered response to an innocuous thread
but also for your pro bono edification i will mention that romanians have never tried to be italian, because italy was irrelevant by the time romania came into existence
romania dicksucked france and wanted very much to copy it, which is why we even have our own arc de triomphe and teach french in school
it was well worth it since the based frogs gave us transylvania, much to enduring bozgor horror

>> No.18518955

>>18517832
>seem like absolute retards
i wonder why an eastern european country high on nationalism would create people that seem retarded
it's almost like this is common to all rightwing countries, from romania to poland to turkey and so on
rightwingers are retards and create more retards

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18518995

>>18518955
Left wingers look like dysgenic abominations.
You're all degenerate ugly motherfuckers

>> No.18519041

I thought Eminescu was a gigantic fag my entire life, based on his works. Then I read some of his later poems, one was about the French revolution, and how the people finally took back power (gay) and the other was when he was 40 thinking about his own death. The death poem was pretty based.

>> No.18519063

>>18519041
The death poem seemed like an admission that his life and work was worthless, not from a nihilistic perspective, but from a perspective of realizing that he was talking like a fag. None of it was worth it for him in the end. That's fucking kino.

>> No.18519120

>>18518955
You also sound retarded. Please return to /pol/.

>> No.18519268

>>18514755
Sinucide-te cu prima ocazie

>> No.18520467

>>18519120
why would i go to /pol/? do i look like a subhuman nazi to you? or do you think someone that hates nazis is the same as a nazi? in which case it sounds like you're the complete retard
>>18518995
lol imagine thinking i'd care about some random americans

>> No.18520520

>>18513677
Rebreanu's Forest of the Hanged is a really good book.

>> No.18520607

>>18520467
Antifa looks the same everywhere.
Limpwristed faggots that haven't worked a day in their lives

>> No.18520699

>Romanian lit thread
>/pol/ vs anti-/pol/ retardation

sunteti toti cretini

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18520907

>>18520699
the dubs of the truth

>> No.18520918

>>18520699
They're not even Romanian.

>> No.18520938

Have the people calling Eminescu a hack even read him, let alone in Romanian?

>> No.18521943

romania mentioned

>> No.18521968

https://www.estcomp.ro/eminescu/amandoi.html