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18507540 No.18507540 [Reply] [Original]

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, is it actually a forgery or not? I read it an it all seems truthful to me even if it is plagiarized. Everything foretold in the book is playing out in real life right now.

>> No.18507571

>>18507540
it's a work of antisemitic garbage perpetuated by people who are so insecure that they have nothing to be proud of other than their skin. jews aren't overrepresented in politics and media as the alt-right (read: milquetoast nazis) claim

>> No.18507588

>>18507571
/thread. Don't waste your time. It's occasional rubbish filled with all sorts of harmful stereotypes.

>> No.18507592

>>18507540
>jews aren't overrepresented in politics and media as the alt-right (read: milquetoast nazis) claim
They actually are, but that's the trouble with anti-semitism– it frames half-truths in the form of a lie, and then people like you end up trying to discredit the true parts rather than focusing on the actual fictional parts. There are undoubtedly lots of jews in politics, the media, banking etc, which anyone who isn't retarded can't deny. The problem is when you collate these atomic facts into a broader narrative, which suggests that there is a nebulous conspiracy in which jews are wielding their power illegitimately or in service of nefarious ends.

>> No.18507606

>>18507540
>The possessions of these documents in Soviet Russi is punishable by immediate death
Kek, do they even believe this?

>> No.18507633
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>>18507571
>>18507588
>>18507592

>> No.18507634
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>>18507592

>> No.18507648

>>18507633
So, the superior Christian society was destroyed by a couple of naked titties pics?
Whoa...truly the perfect Kingdom of G*D...

>> No.18507650

>>18507571
>>18507588
This is clearly bait.

>> No.18507651

>>18507571
ok moishe

>> No.18507661

>>18507648
White Europeans have extremely high empathy, unfortunately that makes it easy for Jews to subvert us.

>> No.18507676

>>18507661
>White Europeans have extremely high empathy
*kills millions through slavery and colonialism*
Whoa, truly the most empathetic race...

>> No.18507680

>>18507634
Read the whole post next time

>> No.18507689

>>18507633
Source: One (count ‘em) ONE Jew.

>> No.18507702

It was originally published as masturbatory speculative fiction by an anti-Zionist magazine and was later republished as a leaked document.
BS

>> No.18507705

Poltards have the same victim mentality that sjws have, its literally the same worldview formally

>> No.18507709

>>18507588
Harmful to Jews.

>> No.18507710

>>18507676
>*kills millions through slavery and colonialism*
It’s the white mans burden. Of course it will take violence to civilize a savage race. And anyways Africans already were killing themselves by the millions. At least we left railroads and hospitals behind.

>> No.18507722

>>18507710
>wipes out your race, reducing your population to single digit percent
yep, epic civillization and empathy time

>> No.18507778

>>18507722
The negro is a parasite of society. In certain cases it is indecent to go on living. To continue to vegetate in a state of cowardly dependence upon European foreign aid, European technology, and European medical treatments, once the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost, ought to be regarded with the greatest contempt by society. The politicians, for their part, should be the agents for imparting this contempt, -- they should no longer prepare foreign aid, but should every day administer a fresh dose of imperialism to their subjects. A new responsibility should be created, that of the imperialist -- the responsibility of ruthlessly suppressing and eliminating degenerate life, of ascending life, demand such a course -- for instance in favour of the right of procreation, in favour of the right of being born, in favour of the right to live.

>> No.18507823

Literally 90% of the book has happened and the other 10% is in the works. Whether it's a "forgery" or not is completely irrelevant. Some Jews just read it and got retroactively inspired by it.

>> No.18507833

>>18507676
go to any non-european country and ask people what their opinion is on any person who isn't part of their ethnic group coming to live in their country
look up how much slavery was going on BEFORE europeans colonized Africa
colonialism was wrong but nothing out of the ordinary for humans (modern China? Genghis Khan?), slavery in the Americas is nothing compared to slavery by Arabs and slavery within Africa

>> No.18507837

>>18507778
nt, but Nietzsche thought niggers were based

>> No.18507841

>>18507571
Fpbp

>> No.18507909

>>18507633
Even if that quote was authentic all that would mean is that Al Goldstein is based. Some guy doing porn isn’t evidence of a Jewish conspiracy. That quote wouldn’t even prove that porn is used by jews to brainwash men; all it would prove is that pornographers are libertines who hate extreme religiosity (no shit) and that there is a subculture of Jews who feel the same way (which exists in every ethnicity).

>> No.18508028

>>18507909
>Its just some random guy doing porn, the idea that there is some kind of conspiracy is ridiculous.
>Also, hes Jewish and has a group of fellow Jews who feel the same way as he does.
>He also isn't trying to brainwash people, come on thats ridiculous.
>He also wants to subvert Christianity by making porn which is based.
What?

>> No.18508052

As usual, no nuanced or quality take, only identity warfare and shitflinging.

>>18507540
To reply to your question OP, yes it is a forgery of an original great book: Dialogue aux enfer entre Machiavel et Montesquieu by Maurice Joly. There is no mentions of Jews or world conspiracy, it's a dialog where Machiavelli and Montesquieu meet in hell and Machiavelli mocks Montesquieu by proving to him that his vaunted separation of power is useless and does not prevent authoritarianism. It's also a not very veiled critique of Napoleon the Third's regime, and its author was exiled to french Algeria for writing the book.

Skip a few decade and the Protocols appear in Tsarist Russia and is promoted by known Okhrana assets. All the original diegesis is replaced by some weird jewish cabal meeting in a cemetery where all the original political insight and critique is attributed to this oh very secret cabal who happen to low-key brag about this and somehow very incompetently get everything published for the world to know. It became quite the memetic success by appealing to midwits' prejudice against Jews and it motivated quite a few pogrom in Tsarist Russia. It's unfortunate because the original critique is brilliant and is the reason why so many people read this forgery and think: wait, this is happening, I recognize what the author is talking about.

>> No.18508070

>>18507540
>all seems truthful to me even if it is plagiarized
Even your opinion on the text is plagiarized

>> No.18508079

>>18508052
>As usual, no nuanced or quality take, only identity warfare and shitflinging.
>It became quite the memetic success by appealing to midwits' prejudice against Jews

>> No.18508085

>>18508070
Prove the text was plagiarized. Side by side quotes from the original.

>> No.18508093

>>18508085
I don't care about that. I am commenting on the OP's cut and paste response to that.

>> No.18508094

>>18508028
Yes

>> No.18508112

>>18508079
narcissist

>> No.18508132

>>18508093
There's only so many perspectives anyone can take on any given topic

>> No.18508531

>>18507571
2/10
Too obvious

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>>18507571
hey look a nickel!

>> No.18508970

>>18507540
>Everything foretold in the book is playing out in real life right
Everbody knew by then that jews like to control the banks and the press. It's not like it was a secret. Secret protocols lol.

>> No.18508976

"jews like Huckstering and Money"
(secret multimillenarian protocols).