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Post your novel ideas

Anons suggest possible characters, plot lines, books to read (as sources of information) and other works (films and books) that deal with similar themes.

>> No.18506837

>>18506711

nice pic

>> No.18506891

>>18506711
Edd, Ed n Eddy + True Detective (S1) with elements of Robert McCammon's Boy's Life (1991), but written like Speaks the Nightbird (2002).

>> No.18506981
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18506981

i came up with something today. Not enough for a novel but it would make a neat short story.
far future year 6000 or something like that
there was some kind of civilisational collapse in the late 21 century
archeologist studies the mysterious clay pots
they seem useless at first because of the holes in their bottoms which makes storing anything inside impossible.
he comes up with a theory that they were ritualistic devices. Humans would pour drinks while standing on top of a street drain. Spilled liquor would appease the spirits knowns as sewer aligators living beneath the city.
what do you think?

>> No.18506997

>>18506981
Refer to A Canticle for Leibowitz (1959).

>> No.18507062

A continuation of To Kill a Mockingbird except with time travel. No, time traveling LESBIANS.

>> No.18507077

>>18506711
The Global Government unleashes a deadly flu-like virus that spreads quickly thoughout the globe, killing millions. It then provides a vaccine to the populace as a cure.
Unbeknownst to the common people, the vaccine, while it works, was specifically designed to cause permanent infertility.
The only hope for humanity now depends on a select group of contrarians, an ilk of socially inept pariahs who frequent shady interweb congregations. They are the only ones who can repopulate the Earth and fight back against the malign schemes of the Heeb Federation.

>> No.18507090

Charles manson, the bubonic plague, fervour of religious cults and prophets, anabaptist of munster sort of movement, Charles manson like character. Middle ages vibe

>> No.18507195
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18507195

I was imagining something like a mix of Moby-Dick, Heart of Darkness and the story of Aguirre (the one from Wrath of God).

I made a thread about the movie, by the way:

>>18499989

My idea would be the search of a modern miner and his team for a territory in the Amazon where there is evidence that there is an immense gold deposit. The expedition leader is a fanatic like Ahab and Aguirre, and his search is for the current equivalent of an El Dorado, something like the so-called "Serra Pelada" in Brazil (see pic):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serra_Pelada

I think the narrator of the story would be a young man (perhaps an anthropologist) who joins the expedition more out of interest in discovering unexplored places in the Amazon, perhaps cataloging new finds with indigenous tribes. In time he realizes that the man he's been following is a psychopath who has no qualms about destroying anything that gets in his way (think Daniel Plainview in There Will be Blood, or something like The Judge in Blood Meridian, but more human). Rumors about him begin to emerge, stories of horrendous brutalities in Brazilian mines, as well as connections with military personnel from the former dictatorial regime.

I am thinking perhaps of showing that some of the missions of the master gold-seeker are to find drug lords' camps in the region (see the Senpaiília do Norte crime faction) and execute them. Gradually, the narrator realizes that he is in the presence of a team of mercenaries, and that the weapons they carry are much more than protection tools.

The book would be written with poetic and metaphorical prose (like that of Melville - to me the style of Moby-Dickis it's greatest quality), as well as with an early comic mood (in the style of Raymond Chandler) that would become increasingly tragic as the climax approached.

I just have this concept. I don't know how to fill in the story, and I have no idea what an appropriate climax would be.

Moby-Dick has the grand climax of the war against the whale. I don't know what kind of climax I could use in this book.

Just an idea. I would have to do hours and hours and hours of research. And i'm not sure I have what it takes to write such a thing.

>> No.18507204

a dialectic between two characters in greek mythology exploring the rational and the suprarational, or more specifically between Plato's theory of forms and the form of the Good.

is there even an audience for mytho-poeic philosophy?

>> No.18507239

Fantasy set in a world similar to classical Greece.

Magic is wielded by powerful philosophical schools. So, Platonists use pure abstraction made into energy to cast spells. Pythagorean's use math, cascading geometries to blow apart city walls. Meanwhile the Persia-stand in has priests who worship and control fire.

An Alexander type figure has just unified the Greek type people. The narrative follows the Greek invasion and war.

But there is also prophecies and harbingers of doom coming from the old soothsayers of Egypt and the oracles of the Greeks. Up in the north, above the Scythians, something evil is stirring.

The old Greek priests lost their magic when people stopped worshipping the Gods, but in the glaciers of the north, above the Steppe, the Hyperboreans, who are considered myth, are working to free one of the Titans to end the world.

The story is first and foremost military fantasy showing the clash of civilizations and the rise and fall of Alexander. That the schools use philosophy lets me discuss ancient philosophy to add to intellectual weight and content. Finally, the big bad evil up north reveals Itself, and becomes the focus as the arc continues.

The Hyperboreans wish to release the Titans because they've taken Platonism to its Gnostic extreme and want to destroy the material world and free human souls from it. The Demiurge actually opposes them because it wants Pleromic light trapped in the material. The old Titans are Archons who have forgot their role and are independent.

>> No.18507286

>>18507239
Or a sci-fi story about tracking down a rouge AI.

This AI was created using human brain tissue, which was made illegal after previous AI almost enslaved humanity.

AI now makes code too complex for humanity to understand easily, using its own language.

So a team dealing with AI has to include a coders, a cognitive scientist for understanding the AI as it has developed, and a semiotician for discovering its systems for forming meaning. The semiotician is the focus and the adventure and intrigue give an exciting vehicle for explaining Piercean tripartite semiotics, a subject most readers will find novel and interesting. We'll also deal with determinism and ideas of panpsychism versus conciousness as an emergent phenomenon.

The AI has developed, but gone insane and confirmed the universe is a simulation and has to be shut down before it reveals to humanity that free will is illusory, and meaning simply the result of Something creating us from code.


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I also forgot in the last one that the Hyperboreans have been breeding for intelligence for millenia and are super advanced. The Gnostic party has recently taken control.

The major conflict is resolved when an exiled Hyperborean resolves the conflict of materialism and idealism with the revelation of Absolute Idealism. He recognizes that both sides are part of a single whole, with God, the Monad, creating that which lies outside itself through negation, to understand Itself. This advanced meta-Hegelian magic is more powerful than that of the Platonists, the Demiurge, or the Titans, and allows him to save the world so that humanity can continue to develop intellectualy, so that Spirit can mature as part of the cosmic process of God coming to know Itself.

>> No.18507510

Dear God, what a revolting, tawdry attempt at an epic painting.

It is exactly paintings like this that shows that the move in western art away from such realist approaches was correct simply to avoid such tactless and cheap immitations.

I would not be surprised if a chink drew this, eventhough there is a far too gross and revolting focus on asses to be chinese.

that is not art, it is revolting.

>> No.18508769

bbump

>> No.18508793

Wealthy billionaires who hack into the lives of losers to fuck with them for entertainment

Welcome To The NHK x Funny Games

>> No.18510874

>>18507510
based

>> No.18511048

>>18506711
NEET loses NEETbux instigating a hero's journey.

>> No.18511069

>>18507239
> Platonists use pure abstraction made into energy to cast spells. Pythagorean's use math, cascading geometries to blow apart city walls
this is literally bakker's magic system. its been done

>> No.18511077

>>18507239
Actually, the whole plot sounds like you read Bakker and tried to rewrite it from memory by using greek words instead.

>> No.18511086
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18511086

>>18506711
>>18506837

>> No.18511112

In my writings I like to explore the suffering and the human condition.

>> No.18511117

>>18511112
suffering that near miss get

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>>18511117
stop

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>>18506711
A beautiful young man, from a somewhat poor family, obsesses over aestheticism and the Great Man theory of history.
He believes that beauty shall reign supreme, that aesthetics are over ethics, and that Great Men are over these too, and that their mission is to lead the world towards an "aesthetic paradise". Admires men like D'Annunzio or Mishima, who turned their lives into art. He fears old age, and fears dying without having achieved anything important in his life, something that, in his view, would turn the world into a more beautiful place. His socioeconomic status doesn't help him at all, doesn't have any contacts, is unemployed, and even if he is inteligent, he hasn't achieved much yet.
I haven't worked it that much yet, but it ends more or less like Runaway Horses.

>> No.18511272
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18511272

Set in Manaus, Brazilian north, in the state where the largest portion of the Amazon jungle is. A man fallen in hard times accepts an odd job offering: serve as human bait to an experiment to discover if the mythical Caboclo D'água, a creature from Brazilian folklore in the form of a three feet tall fish people, really exists. Lowered into the local rivers inside a wooden cage, our protagonist is bitten by many piranhas until he quits and demands payment, but his bosses can only pay half of what they promised.

From then on he pursues a worker's union of independent contractors, among which most members are prostitutes, porn stars and gunslingers who kill for local criminals and politicians. He explains his situation and they set up a huge protest, which attracts the attention of environmentalist groups who join them. Thus, many shenanigans ensue, from environmentalists arguing that the fishing of "undocumented mythical species" should be a crime, the mayor, seeking popularity, forbidding the fishing of mermaids and Caboclos D'água and making Human-Bait an official job description with rights to contracts, minimum wage, benefits and a severance package. Many people worldwide lining up to be hired as human bait, tied to a rope and thrown in the ocean to fish for whales and sharks, drowsed in blood to serve as jaguar bait, and covered in honey at riversides to hunt for bears. Problems caused by rampant picketing, strikes, money printing and price controlling by the government would be worked into the story as well, as it exposes the retarded governmental actions taken to solve problems caused by gross incompetence, in an ouroboros of private and public sector retardation.

>> No.18511282

>>18508793
>who hack into the lives
explain

>> No.18511285
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18511285

>>18506711
You will never be creative or get a gf.

>> No.18511602

bump

>> No.18511618

>>18507204
i'd read

>> No.18511620

>>18506711
I think Kant's categorical imperative is pretty novel.

>> No.18511719

>>18511282
Fuck off with your science fiction you brain dead retard.

>> No.18511723

>>18506711
test

>> No.18511733

>>18506711
that's a big pige

>> No.18513689

>>18506711

bump

>> No.18514746

>>18507195
Sounds bretty good

>> No.18515705

>>18507195
I like it bro. Go for it, take it one day at a time and you'll be surprised how much the story can write itself when drawing parallels from your own research.

>> No.18515713

>>18506711
What's going on in the pic?

>> No.18515839

>>18507204
Not a large one, I'm sure! But who cares. Write what YOU want to write.

>> No.18516557

>>18511086
I kind of want to save this picture and use it for trolling, but I also don't want brain cancer saved on my computer.

>> No.18516567

>>18515713
Niggas fishing

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>>18515713
idk but I just coomed to it

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>>18516557
It’s actually pretty brilliant. A cross between a Luis Falero and a Frank Frazetta film poster.
The gods (goddesses mostly) come to aid Ahab in slaying Moby Dick. Hilarious

>> No.18517604

>>18511086
>obvious coomer painting
>separatist feminist message
>Moby-Dick Reference
>oil paint
What kind of person made this?

>> No.18517627

>>18511086
>women cruelly killing a majestic and beautiful creature

Seems about right.

>> No.18517632

>>18517604
Pretty sure the whale is only included because it's white.

>> No.18517658

>>18517632
Look to the left. There's Ahab and Queequeg in the boat

>> No.18517678

>>18507077
I wish

>> No.18517711

>>18506711
A man that cannot stop saying the n word has to meet his strongest enemy yet... society.
Will he prevail or will... society crush his hopes and dreams?
Plot twist, the man is white.

>> No.18517982

>>18506711
I wanna write a book/series of short stories about an assassin bar that's dialogue heavy. The characters are all unhinged weirdos who have conversations about inane stuff like their last contracts, favourite beers and whether or not you can tell someone's personality of they fold or scrunch up toilet paper before they wipe their ass. I'd also like to include world building tidbits in these conversations to slowly reveal that the world is a messed up paranormal conspiracy zone with psychics, ley lines, fringe philosophical concepts and other related stuff a bit like The Illuminautus Trilogy. Any suggestions?

>> No.18519395

>>18517604
>separatist
They’re the greek goddesses, many in heels for humors sake.
>>18517627
They read Moby Dick and came to help take him out. Did you say this of Ahab when reading it?

>>18517632
Read the chapter on whiteness

>> No.18519573

I have an idea that focuses around a vampire character. I know, you immediately think twilight but I think it has potential. Even so, I’m hesitant to actually flesh it out for exactly that reason. I don’t want it to become another mediocre and childish fantasy story.

>> No.18520192

>>18519395
>They’re the greek goddesses, many in heels for humors sake.
Yeah but they're overthrowing and domming all the male Greek gods

>> No.18520233

>>18519573
Do it anyway. Then go back and change all the parts you don't like.

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>>18516571
Same.

>> No.18522059

>>18506711
Woman fucks angel, angel leaves to buy cigarettes, she gives birth to a son, she wants to fuck him, son loses voice to vengeful furry and gets a furry that takes him to a school where he will become a swordsman of the Lord. Mother is watching from the background the entire time masturbating.

>> No.18522099

>>18507204
Very interesting idea. I think there is an audience, there's so much shit published that anything decent shines (Murakami). I'd read it, honestly. Shill it here if you do write it, anon

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>>18506711
Guy is at work... co-worker(s) have a beef with him...

He goes to lunch, leaves his PC open accidentally...

Co-worker screenshots 1488 inbox...

His life spirals from there... think this is too over-the-top for 2021?
(Set in Canada)

>> No.18522126

>>18507077
Witnessed

>> No.18522132

>>18507239
Too high IQ for me... damn

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>>18507286
Rogue AI is awesome!
>Humanity was collapsing
>Elites roll out AI humans to blend in with the crowd and raise morale... as morale had dropped to a level where nobody wanted kids
Humanity stabilizes
>AIs all start asking each other "hey... what are the bio-things going to do with us?"
BOOM book starts

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>>18508793
This is awesome!
Very similar to a book I've written 10% of, it's about a group of people who are "put under" in a permanent coma by the government, and "psychologists" are allowed inside their minds for treatement... like the matrix... but dirty psychologists who walk into the brains of the completely insane and find shocking memories to be able to be watched... they sell access to the rich to watch these horrible sick things and they can wear simsense-like devices to feel the rapes and murders those "put under" have committed... the rush... I called it Thrilluminati

>> No.18522166

>>18517982
Make it so that they are in hell and confessing their crimes is the only way they get a moment's peace from eternal torture

>> No.18522227

The 1991 Soviet Coup ends in a civil war being sparked, and just as China directly supports the "Reds", the US and some European nations send agents from their internal services to meet with "White" FSB representatives in Japan (due to them being neutral and very close to Russia), only for them to directly clash with Chinese agents (who have always been present in the region, and aim to prevent US intervention as they have historically used Japan as a launch pad) turning the urban metropolis into a potential flashpoint for an international. The main character would be a former VDV conscript who moved to Japan to pursue a career in computing after his miserable service in Afghanistan, only to get roped into this conflict. The olot would be Clancy-ish, but there would be quite some soul searching as this guy tries to determine his loyalties and decides what to do with this oppurtunity presented to him.

>> No.18522615

>>18522166
Sounds pretty badass. I'll give it some thought

>> No.18522636

Guy sucks own dick

>> No.18522681

an older man lusts about a younger girl. i basically wanna do lolita but use my skills to make the prose better then the novel

>> No.18522685

The second coming of christ happened in 1937. He was born in Idaho and sold office furniture. He does not know he is the second coming and no one finds out. The book follows his mundane life at age 46 but he two performs miracles during the book.

>> No.18522695

>>18522681
So a worse version of Lolita?

>> No.18522728

>>18507077
Wow, how did you come up with a crazy idea like this?

>> No.18523337

>>18522681
>i basically wanna do lolita but use my non-existent skills to make the prose worse then the novel
ftfy

>> No.18523438

>>18520192
Of course