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Does it hold up? Is this still worth reading in 2021? What will I learn?

What do I read after?

>> No.18469703

>>18469695
I haven't read it, but he blocked me on twitter with out ever interacting with him or the faggots in his sphere lmao

HOW BRONZE AGED AND SAVAGE

I'm pretty sure he's a Romanian ivy league nigger. All of these faggots are super sheltered wealthy retards. I seriously hate them.

>> No.18469712

The greatest work of writing in the past 1000 years. The one true meme and becoming. Read it. I am bronze age pervert. I have a bronze age mindset.

>> No.18469715

>>18469695
It literally only came out 3 years ago, yes its not outdated lol. I read it a couple months ago pretty good, wasn't a hard read either.
>>18469703
Seething tranny

>> No.18469721

>>18469715
>Seething tranny
But I'm the exact opposite of that, hence the sheltered homosexual blocked me before I ever had the opportunity to tell him as much

>> No.18469724

>>18469703

bugman detected

Read it Anon it's good.

>> No.18469726

Is it Nietzche + Evola?

>> No.18469728

>>18469724
No, I don't have time to read anyways because I'm about to go to medschool after serving in the ZOG wars. These fake twitter tough guys who glorify pain and suffering they never have, nor ever will experience, are pathetic.

>> No.18469734

>>18469726
It's Nietzsche taken to his own weird extreme, no Evola involved. Speaking as someone who has read most of the works both Nietzsche and Evola.

>> No.18469737

>>18469715
>>18469724
What are its views on religion? Traditionalist? Nihilist?

>> No.18469738

>>18469734
Thank you

>> No.18469795

>>18469737
Very positive about it. It’s a bit too complicated to explain fully in a 4chan post. I wouldn’t call him a traditionalist or a nihilist though.

I forget the exact wording but I remember there was this one very cool line in the book where he says something similar to “Natural state of being for animal in nature is state of constant religious mania”. He compares this sort of noble spiritual wildness to be best expressed through men of action throughout history like pirates, Homeric heroes, mercenaries. Also getting into biology and the faults of some of evolutionary sciences current biases and how that discolors what life and the universe really is. I probably explained some of this wrong but I found it to be pretty great stuff and would encourage you to read it for yourself.

>> No.18469831

>>18469795
I understand why he didn't want to write with proper language (because he was sick of academic formality and pretentiousness, and probably also because he didn't want to seem like a Nietzsche copycat - both very understandable reasons), but I think he overdid it with the archaic language. It's actually difficult to read in its own way, which is the main thing stopping me from reading it.

>> No.18469836

>>18469695
nah, trump lost

>> No.18469896

It's kinda meh.
Evola but a lot less based.

>> No.18469936

>>18469831
I found it pretty easy to get through as far as philosophic works go, just my opinion though.

>> No.18469943

>>18469695
This is a great book. Something I like about BAP is he gives you a lot of extra reading material to follow up on things. The writing style is also fun. Only people I know who shit on it are people who serve some kind of ideology -ISM.

>> No.18469947

>>18469726
Kind of. He has read a metric fuck ton from all over the place though, not only Nietzsche or Evola for example.

>> No.18470001

>>18469795
I know the line you are talking about and yeah, it's very interesting to consider. It's a book I've re-read twice now and will probably read a third time at some point soon. Lots of info in their. I study archaeology and there's a lot of parallels one can make. You ever listen to his podcast?

>> No.18470009

"Imagine lesbian mulatta commissars with young Martin Sheen face and haircut manning the future Bergen-Belsens, installations that will span tens of miles."
lel but its a plausible future,.

>> No.18470027

>>18469896
not only is his thinking nowhere near evola but he also says this in the book

>> No.18470034

>>18469943
Likewise the only people defending this book are tribal warfare Brainlets
Its possible to criticize something without being "to the opposite".

>> No.18470044

>>18470034
>Its possible to criticize something without being "to the opposite".
I am aware of this, but when I read the nature of the critique is usually devolves into ISM spamming.

>> No.18470053

BAP and his imitators are closeted homos. They may as well come out and admit to fucking and/or wanting to fuck twinks. Perhaps then they will become based in my book.

>> No.18470054

>>18470044
fair enough, ill take your word for it because I never take part in bap discussions

>> No.18470072

>>18470054
I don't either mind you, in fact I generally loathe groupies of any stripe.

>> No.18470076

>>18469943
Is there a list anywhere of BAP recommended reading to follow up on?

>> No.18470086

>>18469695
>>18469715
>>18469724
>>18469726
>>18469734
>>18469737
>>18469795
>>18469831
>>18469896
>>18469943
Memes and its affects on developing brains has been a disaster for humanity

>> No.18470087

>>18470053
>HE GAY BECAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>t. asspained neocon

>> No.18470096

>>18470086
>anything I don't personally like is a meme
You are probably more deranged than BAP readers.

>> No.18470112

>>18470086
So you never read it, we got it.

>> No.18470127

>>18470096
>>18470112
>>anything I don't personally like is a meme
LMFAO sure buddy, or just the fact that your entire thought system that dominates your reality is made up of memes, meme associations, and meme condemnations. Fucking kill yourself, zero self awareness.
>So you never read it, we got it.
Turn 18 faggot

>> No.18470137

>>18470127
>your reality is made up of memes, meme associations, and meme condemnations.
How would you know? I'm less interested in memes than the average twitter retard or facebook idiot, in fact I don't even engage with them at all. It would not surprise me if you were more influenced by memes than I am, seeing as you're so obsessed with pointing them out.

>> No.18470143

>>18470127
>t. never read the book
we know.

>> No.18470151

>>18469703
I thought he was a retard too before I found out hes romanian. Since hes part of my tribe I now think hes based.

>> No.18470154

>>18470151
He's not Romanian.

>> No.18470164

it kinda sucks but there is no question that BAP is staking out a new path for popular philosophy. i wonder what the total sales numbers are

>> No.18470172

>>18470151
But dont get me wrong hes very clearly well read and quite intelligent. His book is quite bad and the people who like it (a lot) are even worse

>> No.18470179

>>18470154
Heard he got doxxed as Cosmin Alamariu (romanian name). Doesnt really matter to me, still dislike the book and the whole frog twitter sphere

>> No.18470182

>>18470179
I googled this and found a single Twatter post that made this claim. If you believe that, you'll beleive anything.
>still dislike the book
we know, that's why you brought up irrelevant and pseudo-dox info. What did you not like about it?

>> No.18470204

>>18470179
Also do note that the only reason anyone "Doxes" someone in todays world is to threaten them with physical violence. Given this Alamariu has written articles that weren't pandering to the Maoist narrative in American Universities, I would not be surprised if some motivated American Red Guard wanted to get this guy physically attacked.

>> No.18470217

>>18470182
Didnt find it that insightful or original, and the way it was written became really jarring for me very quickly. I guess the whole eastern european act he puts on is funny to americans or something. Also theres a group of people who worship it like its scripture and they are all very anti intellectual (and I dont mean just modern intelligentsia, but all intellectual pursuits in general), they seem to think of themselves as some warriors or men of action when they very clearly are not (nobody really is these days, or very few)

>> No.18470235

>>18470217
>Didnt find it insightful or original
OK? But what was unoriginal about it?
>very anti intellectual
Most people generally are because the intelligentsia, especially now, work for ideological purposes. I work in academia and can attest to this. I have been physically attacked twice.
>warriors or men of action
I think you misunderstand the text.

>> No.18470236

>>18470204
Sounds probable

>> No.18470255

>>18470235
I clearly specified that those ive met were opposed to intellectual pursuits in general. And I called the frog people larpers, though any reader of BAM who isnt a dimwit wont become a larper. I was just pointing out what kind of people seem to be drawn to the book, or at least those that become passionate about it. Also it felt like Nietzche revisited, but dumbed down and more right wing.

>> No.18470264

>>18470235
Sorry to hear about the attacks. What prompted them? What do you specialise in?

>> No.18470274

>>18470204
>Given this Alamariu has written articles that weren't pandering to the Maoist narrative in American Universities, I would not be surprised if some motivated American Red Guard wanted to get this guy physically attacked.
bap tweets hate speech worthy shit nearly every day, so i guess it kinda evens out

>> No.18470290

>>18470264
I'm an archaeologist but I have several friends who work with the student newsletter where I used to write anonymously about various events on campus. The first time I was attacked was after a conference of all things after I delivered a presentation on ancient views of matriarchy (probably one reason I got interested in BAP because he also talks about this albeit in a funnier format whereas I was talking mostly about material, etc). This prompted some radical group on campus I have a longstanding fight with to send several goons in black to attack me. This was during the famous "PUNCH THE NAZI" phase of the college Maoists, so it was in vogue to attack anyone who wasn't apart of their group. I wasn't the only one for example.

The second one had to do with an article I contributed anonymously regarding a Black Lives Matter "protest" that was held on our campus. I documented that the ringleader of the event was not a student on a campus but was instead apart of a larger radical organization and he worshipped Malcolm X (dressed like him, enacted his mannerisms, etc). Someone at the student paper got ahold of my name (probably leaked) and I had goons sent at me. They smashed my car window after I refused to back down (they threatened me to not publish the material). In both cases, no legal action was taken against the perps. This is just the reality of everyday life on American college campuses if you aren't in the cult though. My story is not unique in this case.

>>18470255
It is a bit like Nietzsche but I see a lot more influences than just that. I don't buy into WINGISM so I won't accept your use of that term. Disregarding that, the main point I took from his work was the desire for personal space, autonomy, self-reliance, and independence. He spends a significant amount of time talking about the abyss of "Oriental" life (mostly focused on China --- historically and contemporary). This part, to me, is the most important component of the whole work. Everything else was supplementing it. I think you're mistaking "dumbing down" with comedy. Certainly it's not meant to be a highly academic text with flowery language, etc, which in my opinion has been the bane of philosophy for a long time (probably done on purpose, most "intellectuals" prefer to be fluid rather than concrete to avoid confrontation and critique).

>>18470274
>hate speech
Your opinion is disregarded.

>> No.18470303

>>18470290
lmao owned

>> No.18470308

>>18470303
Yes, yes, Here's Why It's A Good Thing!, etc etc.

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18470345

>>18469695
is it relevant outside of US? Namely will eastern european get anything out of it?

>> No.18470349

>>18470345
Yeah, it's not really about the US.

>> No.18470353

>>18470204
>the only reason anyone "Doxes" someone in todays world is to threaten them with physical violence
You're a retard, it's to make you unemployable. It's the contemporary version of being cast out of society for being a witch (starvation). This is why it's only really to dox white racialists, the system doesn't punish anything else

>> No.18470363

>>18470353
>You're a retard, it's to make you unemployable.
That's a component, but physical violence is also a real threat. Those antifa types will often vandalize your house and stalk your family, etc. But yes, doxing is only used against whites who aren't on board with international cabalism - at least in America. In other countries, this isn't really so prevalent.

>> No.18470371

>>18470353
I was physically attacked twice and one time was in direct relation to me getting doxed. You are wrong.

>> No.18470382

>>18470363
>but physical violence is also a real threat
It really shouldn't be, hence their preferred method of going after your place of employment. Learn to fight and if they come on your property and act malicious, it's legal in most places to kill them.

>> No.18470387

>>18470371
you too
>>18470382

>> No.18470401

>>18470382
Fighting against several goons at once, even if they are rather puny in comparison, is not an easy task particularly when they usually fire several salvos of projectiles first (as it was in my case) and used hit and run tactics. They escaped before anyone could catch them, so I was mostly blindsided. I would go to prison in my State if I killed them, even if it would be justice, perhaps I should relocate.

>> No.18470426

>>18470401
They don't actually expect you to fight back, much less to actually put one of them down (which the one that initiates will 99% of the time be the leader). This isn't being out numbered by men, it's by leftist college kids. Unless they have weapons, it really shouldn't be difficult to decisively come out on top. Don't let them make you relocate your life

>> No.18470437

>>18470426
>Don't let them make you relocate your life
Believe me, I am fighting everyday I walk on campus. I have a target on my back since the first year I began studies here. The biggest problem I have found is not so much the fanaticism of the enemy, but the apathy of the majority. At the conference I was assaulted it, I was most shocked by the sheer inability for others to act to stop the assailants. There were people all over the auditorium who simply stood, slack-jawed, and did nothing but offer words of encouragement after the fact. Incredible.

>> No.18470442

>>18470437
assaulted at*, sorry I am just waking up.

>> No.18470457

>>18470437
>I was most shocked by the sheer inability for others to act to stop the assailants. There were people all over the auditorium who simply stood, slack-jawed, and did nothing
this is the rule for all "stressful events", it's not unique to political violence or due to political intimidation (they probably are clueless about the metapolitical conflict in the first place). I've had to pull an unconscious victim of a hit and run out of the middle of the road while 15 people stood on the sidewalk, awestruck. Most people aren't going to act for anything if it doesn't directly concern them.

>> No.18470472

>>18470457
I suppose that is true, that "Bystander Effect". I guess it is something you don't really understand until it actually happens in front of you.

>> No.18470508

>>18470179
Alamariu is a neocon and BAP spends almost every podcast shitting on neocons. Not convinced.

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18471757

Ugh...

>> No.18471810

>>18469831
Wasn’t using the ‘cavenab’ language part of his Straussian way of expressing philosophy?

>> No.18471820

>>18470001
Love his podcast

>> No.18471826

>>18471810
He's not even remotely a Straussian.

>> No.18471830

>>18471810
caveman

>> No.18471838

I will never read it. I have no opinion on it.

>> No.18471855

Wouldn't an ubermenschian cryptoglownigger know how to hide his glownigness just a little?

>> No.18471857

>>18471810
>cavenab
i am now imagining lolita rewritten in bap-style grugspeak

>> No.18471880

>>18471838
Same. I’m not even on Twitter and don’t really understand the infatuation with ecelebs desu.

>> No.18471886

>>18471838
>>18471880
>unable to separate a book from a personality
I doubt either of you even read.

>> No.18471944

>>18471886
The fact of the matter is this: no one outside of this personality’s Twitter following is purchasing this book or reading it. So, the only reason people are reading this book is because of their preexisting relationship to the author; to separate the work from the author would serve no purpose in this case.

>> No.18471960

>>18469831
It's not archaic, just read it with a Russian accent.

>> No.18471974

>>18469695
It's very uplifting. It can be easy to get dragged down by the collapse of western civilization, but for BAP it just means it's your chance to live bigger.

>> No.18471976

>>18471944
That's no different than reading a book because some gay media outlet promoted it

>> No.18471984

>>18469695
BAP is a fucking retard who has never truly suffered in his life, he glorifies suffering because he doesn't understand that suffering is unbearable, no amount of "tough guy" bullshit can get you through suffering, only ending the suffering, altogether, organic life is a fucking atrocity, we need transhumanism not more primitivism, fuck him

>> No.18472009

>>18471976
>That's no different than reading a book because some gay media outlet promoted it
I agree, and from what I gather from this thread, ‘Bronze Age Pervert’ is a ‘gay media outlet’ all his own.

>> No.18472046

>>18470143
>>18470096
>>18470151
>>18470182

Nobody except flaming faggots reads it, so why would I or any other straight smart, amazing, loving, religious, incredible, person read it. Fuck you hahahah, you have to read fucking filth like this to feel good about yourself or gain anything hahahaha its so fucking sad

>> No.18472047

>>18471944
That's a complete supposition based on your own delusion. I read the book before I knew who BAP was, as did many other people. You clearly have some personal bias which is your own personal problem.

>> No.18472057

>>18472009
Fair enough lol

>> No.18472066

>>18472046
Wow very convincing.

>> No.18472072

>>18470290
this is hysterical, fucking loser white boi gets destroyed.

>> No.18472089

>>18470401
it really lightens my day when I find out a BAP fan has gotten attacked hahahaha you were owned my dude, fucking loser.

>> No.18472097

>>18472072
>>18472089
>sperg mob violence = guy gets destroyed
the shills are getting worse.

>> No.18472105

>>18472097
OOoooo I say shill annd think it means something !!! Oooooo! shill shill! im a shill! hahahahah fucking BAP faggots are the worst hahaha none of you had fathers.

>> No.18472210

>>18472105
>asspained tranny

>> No.18472219

>>18469695
BAP is funny but I wouldn't bother buying the book.

>> No.18472543

>>18470204
>maoist narrative in American universities
retard

>> No.18472550

>>18472105
>>18472089
>>18472046
>>18472072
>>18471984
>>18471944
Obsessed

>> No.18473476

>>18472089
I've been on the fence about it for awhile now. But I think you just talked me into buying and reading the book.
>>18470235
>got attacked
That sucks, dude. I know the feel.
t. academia
Side note, what are other books that draw the ire of leftists, marxists, etc.?

>> No.18473499

>>18473476
How many copies do you have?

>> No.18473549

i actually quite enjoyed. i knew nothing about the guy or whatever he is on twitter before reading it. some of the shit he talks about is quite profound. especially when he talks about trusting your natural instincts and in particular about how some force outside of ourselves or the realms of science must exist, because you can simply feel it. made me think about god, which i had never previously.

But, there is also many such cases of nonsense and delusion surrounding some of his beleifs. if you want something interesing to read, i highly reccomend it. I wouldn't expect some ground breaking manifesto that some people seem to think it is though. ALSO, DO NOT LEAVE THIS SHIT LYING AROUND YOUR HOUSE. I basically had a girl lose interest in me over this book

>> No.18473640

>>18473549
The part where he talks a bit about "blood memory" like in animals made me sit in a warm afternoon and think for a few hours about it. My biggest critique honestly is that, and I think it's done on purpose, is the silliness of it at times. I would be really interested to read something totally sober from this guy.

>> No.18473644

>>18469703
I thought he was a brazillian accountant or something

>> No.18473653

>>18473476
>Side note, what are other books that draw the ire of leftists, marxists, etc.?
novels by Louis-Ferdinand Céline who I think BAP was heavily influenced by.

>> No.18473713

>>18471757
lmao

>> No.18473764

BAP is not a serious thinker or writer, and I never wish to interact with anyone who believes that he has something valuable to add to philosophical discussion.

>> No.18473789

>>18469695
>99/2/32
Damn samefagging faggot really trying to shill his own shitty book hard

>> No.18473948

>>18473764
This is what you say about anyone who isn't a leftist, atheist, and Marxist.

>> No.18473981

>>18473476
>>18470235
How were you guys attacked? What happened? Is it really that bad now?

>> No.18474005

>>18473549
>I basically had a girl lose interest in me over this book
Lmao really? No one that’s been through my room has recognized it which has been quite a few people since I’m moving.

>> No.18474012

>>18473948
Wrong on all counts, midwit.

>> No.18474019

>>18473764
>not a serious thinker
Seems every time I see this phrase it's some faggot whining that people arent just fellating academia

>> No.18474022

>>18473948
Imagine reading frog twitter closet homosexuals when you could be reading Plato.

>> No.18474030

>>18474012
I could beat you in a fight.

>> No.18474039

>>18474022
I read Plato and why do you people always post in this "Imagine..." format

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>>18473764
Liberal midwits like you think you have a monopoly on intellectualism but you are all a bunch of pseuds and frauds. What you actually have a monopoly on is academic institutions, not intellectualism.

>> No.18474066

>>18474039
Imagine not using the imagine format shit post

>> No.18474067

>>18474030
Post physique.

>> No.18474072

>>18474057
For what possible reason do you think anon is a liberal? Leave the tribal idpol at the door, it doesn't belong in /lit/.

>> No.18474112

>>18474072
It’s pretty unusual to be so dismissive of a book without even stating the reasons why (besides Ayn Rand what god awful pieces of shit) unless there are ideological reasons.

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>>18474072
I am tired of having to explain this, but so many of you retards still don't get it. By "liberal", I refer to any ideology grounded in Enlightenment presuppositions of nominalism, empiricism, secularism, rationalism, democracy, equality, social progressivism, etc. Classical liberals, Marxists, Frankfurt schoolers, libertarians, neocons, twitter trannies, neolibs, and so on, are all liberals.
That smug, snide, snarky attempt at pretending to be a true serious thinker gave it away that the anon is a liberal.

>> No.18474125

i am tired of having to explain this, but so many of you retards still don't get it. by "peepee poopoo", i refer to

>> No.18474132

>>18474066
Ìts pretty obnoxious. I use it too but in a couple years it will sound like the 'you do realize...right?' redditry I bet.

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>>18474118

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>>18474125
This is what passes for a highly cerebral post by liberal standards.

>> No.18474141

>>18473499
I do not own a copy of Bronze Age Mindset yet. I've added it to my purchase list for this weekend.
>>18473653
Thanks, I'll check him out.
>>18473981
Basically, I was talking to some cuckservative and some marxist showed up, attempted to "debate" the red hat mongoloid, got upset when I laughed at the irony of a conservative calling someone a liberal, the marxist got mad and threw a hissy fit. He swung something at me and I shoved him over and walked back into the doors.
This was a few years ago, it was pretty bad then and it's gotten worse now. Frankly, people seem to have this weird idea that Biden being president means "nazis need to go back in hiding" so it's "nazi huntin' season yee haw" but I've been meeting more and more national socialists than ever. It is pretty weird. (quick disclaimer: I'm more of a fellow traveler to natsocs rather than a natsoc, this is why it is so odd to me to be meeting so many brazenly open natsocs... Not on the campus mind you, no one is that stupid. But you run into them and they're pretty open about it off the campus. )

>> No.18474148

>>18474118
Exactly. Why is it so hard for these people to understand?

>> No.18474153

>>18474118
That's kind of retarded m8. If pure casting the net that wide there were self identified liberals of the past whose social views would make your average /pol/ack blush

>> No.18474156

>>18474118
People know what liberal means, you queer.

>> No.18474182

>>18474141
>Basically, I was talking to some cuckservative and some marxist showed up, attempted to "debate" the red hat mongoloid, got upset when I laughed at the irony of a conservative calling someone a liberal
damn where did this happen, in kekistan??

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>>18474153
If their ultimate goal was the liberation of their sacred "individual" from traditional hierarchies and cultural values then they were filthy disgusting shitlibs.

>> No.18474191

>>18474156
No they don't. They think american conservatives are "far right". These people don't know what liberalism actually entails.
See: >>18474153
The majority holds the liberal worldview. If you think "equality is good", you are a liberal. If you think "voting is good", you are a liberal. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc.
>>18474182
>kekistan
Yep. Right smack in the middle of the courtyard at kekistan university.

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>>18474153
Just because you’re racist doesn’t make you based. Literally all of humanity is racist, even modern day anti racist liberals and leftists, they’ve just brainwashed themselves into not seeing clear statistical patterns, and brainwashed themselves into worshipping the lower is somehow a moral virtue. No that’s just a gay nigger and he’s placed placed in the hierarchy as my slave or dead.

>> No.18474198

>>18474189
Nice kittyposting.

>> No.18474202

>>18474196
*best placed

>> No.18474224

>>18474196
"No, you don't understand. Black people are incapable of doing it on their own so we have to give them +650 points on the SAT just so they can even compare to Wh*toids and asians! How is that racist?"
"They LITERALLY need their hands held through life. They will not be able to make it if we don't give them GIBS! omg that fucking UNCLE TOM voted against his own interest, what a fucking brainwashed idiot. I personally voted to make white people 88% less likely to get a job here."
They genuinely do not see how this kind of shit is racist.

>> No.18474229

>>18474196
>>18474189
there are liberal defenses of slavery lmao. You can practically reinvent feudalism from liberal principles depending on your priors of human nature

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>>18474229
But it all fell apart and these dumb liberal cucks gave women and darkies the right to vote because they couldn't see through their Enlightenment presuppositions of nominalism, individualism, equality, and so on, which are all wrong.
Liberals see reality like a soulless rational transaction, as if it is nothing more than buying something at the store. They are so stupid and blind.

>> No.18474256

>>18474224
real boomer hours

>> No.18474259

>>18474256
I just don't see why we should baby sit. I'd move to an all "White" country if I could.

>> No.18474260

What happened to the chic ... forum?

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>But it all fell apart and these dumb liberal cucks gave women and darkies the right to vote because they couldn't see through their Enlightenment presuppositions of nominalism, individualism, equality, and so on, which are all wrong.
>Liberals see reality like a soulless rational transaction, as if it is nothing more than buying something at the store. They are so stupid and blind.

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>> No.18474280

>>18474112
>shilled by anons who don't actually discuss the book but just shit post
>huur why so dismissive they must have an ideological agenda
No.

>>18474118
Still don't see how anon is any of those just because he said your favourite book was shit.
Seems you are just butt hurt your man crush isn't viewed as a philosophical power house by anyone else.

>> No.18474283

>>18469695
niggas need to ask on here if it's worth it to read a 200 page book that costs like $10

>> No.18474286

>>18474272
>feeling emasculated by society
lol

>> No.18474287

>>18474255
Voting itself is not very liberal tbqh.

>> No.18474290

>>18474256
>>18474267
If you have anything substantial to say, then say it.

>> No.18474299

>>18474290
u first

>> No.18474305

>>18474286
Where is the lie in the image? I don't feel "emasculated by society", but there does appear to be a very public and very proudly "anti-male" sentiment. I'm genuinely just here to learn, so go ahead and show me your point of view. Perhaps I may learn something. Alternatively, you an continue responses and just make everyone double down with things like >>18474299
>>18474287
Democracy is inherently liberal.

>> No.18474310

>>18474305
>you an continue responses
you can continue vapid responses*

>> No.18474321

>>18474305
Democracy seriously impinges on personal liberty so idk if I agree.

>> No.18474330

>>18474321
I'll concede that point.

>> No.18474368

>>18474280
We were literally discussing the book lol. There’s nothing shilling about it if we genuinely enjoyed it.

>> No.18474422

>>18469695
Would ravage and bring back home to Argos.

>> No.18474470

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/65613344/mans-world-issue-2-the-sea-the-sea

>> No.18474478

>>18469695
Yes its based

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>>18474198

>> No.18474533

>>18474470
lol

>> No.18474613

>>18474368
No discussion itt, just memes.

>> No.18474724

>>18474613
I was discussing it >>18469795

>> No.18475076

>>18473948
>>18474057
I am absolutely not a liberal, marxist, or whatever boogeyman occupies your thoughts.
You are wrong on all accounts, and you seem to be angry that we have come to a point with philosophy that not much can be added outside of academia, as the rigor required to form new ideas cannot be done by a rogue scholar, barring a true genius, which BAP is clearly not.
If you wish to keep riding BAP's cock, then by all means, live your life as he would have you, which is apparently getting filtered by anything rigorous

>> No.18475088

>>18475076
> we have come to a point with philosophy that not much can be added outside of academia
der ewige Bugmann

>> No.18475102

>>18472219
I would just pirate it off libg.

>> No.18475106

>>18475088
Tell me how I know you are not well read or schooled

>> No.18475119

>>18475102
I did that, and then my physical copy arrived today.

>> No.18475138

>>18469695
Shitty self help for midwit "traditionalists"

>> No.18475150

>>18475138
Return to monke is clearly a separate phenomenon from tradfags, the divergence of opinion on Nietzsche between the two is especially obvious

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>>18475076
Put me in a debate with any of your faggy little academic pseudo-philosophers. I will smoke all these jamokes.
Except they would never allow me to debate them in the first place. They keep public discourse tightly controlled so that anyone outside their paradigm has no voice in the mainstream.

>> No.18475408

>>18469703
Cry more

>> No.18475436

>>18475076
>I am absolutely not a liberal, marxist, or whatever boogeyman occupies your thoughts.
>you can only into philosophy if you go through utterly leftist controlled academia
You’re a fucking retard is what you are lmao

>> No.18475484

>>18475076
The subject has expired under their tutelage. Philosophy can now only be done outside academia.

>> No.18475494

>>18475076
Except that any academic who is honest enough to go against the liberal establishment's false narrative will get fired and cancelled into oblivion.

>> No.18475504

>>18475484
this desu!

>> No.18475505

>>18474118
>by liberal I mean something other than what liberal specifically means
sure anon

>> No.18475509

>>18475505
You obviously cannot see the big picture and cannot think outside of the "Enlightenment" paradigm you dumb faggot

>> No.18475513

>>18475505
He is right and you are wrong.

>> No.18475558

https://cbradleythompson.substack.com/p/bronze-age-pervert-and-the-fascist

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>>18475396
> We're going to take back intellectual discourse from those damned libs!
> We'll do so by talking like retards and engaging mostly through Twitter.

>> No.18475593

>>18475558
>Part 1 of 4

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>>18475509
>until this thread I didn't know what 'liberal' meant but instead of admitting to my ignorance I'm going to scream and cry and pull my asshole open until my favorite twitter celeb comes to pick me up
ok anon.
no big picture will change that liberal means what liberal means

>> No.18475631

>>18475619
Small mind
Weak soul

>> No.18475636

>>18475619
How do you not understand that all of those ideologies are fundamentally grounded in the same Enlightenment liberal presuppositions and thus it makes sense to use "liberal" as an umbrella term to cover all of them

>> No.18475642

>>18475558
> Hmm, how to appeal to the youths, and show that my philosophy, Objectivism, is relevant to the issues of the day? I know! I'll write an essay shitting on their favorite intellectual, with a title ripped from a 65 year old essay about JFK's domestic policy!
Fucking boomers.

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>>18475636
>Enlightenment liberal presuppositions
lmao

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>>18474141
If your stories are true then you sound based. Do you think it's possible to get a good education without going to college? I want to increase my understanding of the world but college sounds like a bad idea.

>> No.18475661

>>18475651
This is so typical of you people. I show you what is wrong with all your assumptions and all you do is act like a snarky little faggot because you have no argument.

>> No.18475668

>>18475642
>their favorite intellectual
who? I thought we were talking about BOP

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>>18475661
>I show you what is wrong with all your assumptions
you haven't presented a single argument, you just keep trying to redefine liberalism because you mispoke upthread.

>> No.18475678

>>18471984
>t. Never persevered for the sake of perseverance

>> No.18475681

>>18475661
Your resentment over being condemned to irrelevance by your own choices is absolutely wonderful, please go on.

>> No.18475683

Why would you buy a book by discount Mike Ma?

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>>18475675
I did not misspeak. This is very simple. Are you too retarded to understand or do you simply not want to admit that you are wrong and I am absolutely correct

>> No.18475693

>>18469695
He's a federal asset.

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>>18475681
You are a coward. I am better than you. I am smarter than you. I am taller than you. I am stronger than you. I am more noble and majestic than you.

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>>18475684
> Too retarded to understand neocons are libs
And Posadists are the real fascists I guess?

>> No.18475714

>>18475695
And I'd shiv you in the back like the little cunt you are the first occasion I get, so who fucking cares, you majestic fag.

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18475716

His name is Costin Vlad Alamariu. He holds a PhD from Yale. His thesis was overseen by a prominent Jewish think-tank. His brother is a GS investment banker. Do with this information what you will.

>> No.18475718

>>18475708
I literally said that neocons ARE libs. Just like all the other groups that I listed. You liberals can't even read!

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18475732

I think it is a very good book on instinct and thumos in man as he relates to and is inhibited by the modern condition, in a true Nietzschean fashion. BAP is the most recent writer I have seen that displays a real affinity for Nietzsche.

His vision, from the constantly passing bars,
has grown so weary that it cannot hold
anything else. It seems to him there are
a thousand bars; and behind the bars, no world.

As he paces in cramped circles, over and over,
the movement of his powerful soft strides
is like a ritual dance around a center
in which a mighty will stands paralyzed.

Only at times, the curtain of the pupils
lifts, quietly—. An image enters in,
rushes down through the tensed, arrested muscles,
plunges into the heart and is gone.

(this is you, and you are gay)

>> No.18475734

>>18475636
>How do you not understand that all of those ideologies are fundamentally grounded in the same Enlightenment liberal presuppositions and thus it makes sense to use "liberal" as an umbrella term to cover all of them
Virtually everything from race-realist turn-of-the-19th century eugenics to orthodox Marxist is liberal, by this definition.

>> No.18475735

>>18475718
If you like BAP then you're a neocon, dummy

>> No.18475736

>>18475718
And I just made fun of your assertion that I am too retarded to understand that Neocons are, as you say, libs. Which is fucking retarded. According to the same logic Hitler was a liberal.

>> No.18475739

>>18469695

500th time it’s been posted, read literally anything else instead.

>> No.18475743

>>18469795

Go watch an animal for like one minute. Not really “constant religious mania”. Drinking water from a stream, wandering, chewing leaves, breathing, watching for predators or wind, these are things we all personally do many times daily and can understand. Parts are decent rightoid stuff but a lot is cripplingly gay, and not even in a good way

>> No.18475746

>>18470053

Mishima is an actual closet homo, bad is just a coping straggot who will never be really based.

>> No.18475758

>>18475735
The neocons want to turn the natsec state on bap types and jail them m8, take a look at what Bill Kristol has been kvetching about lately.

>> No.18475764

>>18475758
>neocons eat their own
yes.
next

>> No.18475770

>>18475758

More than one person who is a “conservative”, some are turning to the alt right some aren’t!

>> No.18475797

>>18475764
>>18475770
Do you guys even know what neoconservatism is? It is a specific ideology created by a bunch of literal Trotskyists, it is really not similar to baps vague neofascism whatsoever

>> No.18475811

>>18475797
>It is a specific ideology created by a bunch of literal Trotskyists
so like baps vague neofascism
I'm assuming by trotskyists you mean nose clan

>> No.18475824

>>18475797
>>18475758
One of who was Irving Kristol, Bill Kristol's father. Both hardcore zionist jews of course.
>>18475811
Yeah but they were part of Trotskyist organizations and went completely 'turncoat' and founded American neoconservatism with William Buckley as their primary frontman.

>> No.18475826

>>18475811
No I mean they were literally Trotskyists. The two ideologies are incompatible, the neocons flipped out at Trump even, let alone actual fascist tier politics.

>> No.18475849

Did you know that Lev Bronstein Trotsky, in addition to his marxism and neocons, was also a feminist and a fag/tranny enabler?
His clan was also promoting the same sick and evil values in the Weimar Republic.

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>>18475582
Yes

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>>18475716
I don’t believe that’s him but even if it is I’m a literal esoteric Hitlerist and my dad used to work for Goldman Sachs.

>> No.18475891

>>18475875
>I'm one of the people causimg the world's problems
congrats

>> No.18475906

>>18475891
Well my dad is. He’s a gay neo-con. Has met fags like Paul Ryan at lobbying meetings. Still love him but glad I finally moved out of the house so I do t have to worry about him kicking me out when I go on Jewish rants.

>> No.18475934

>>18475743
>Parts are decent rightoid stuff but a lot is cripplingly gay, and not even in a good way
This was my impression of it as well.
My view of it was that it was made to be basically self-help for the dissented right, sort of like people memed Evola as being like, with you being able to shill it from anyone from esoteric weirdos to race IQ statistics nerds, from libertarian leaning paleocons to nazbols, with relatively little rejection from any group.
>>18475826
>No I mean they were literally Trotskyists. The two ideologies are incompatible, the neocons flipped out at Trump even, let alone actual fascist tier politics.
Neoconservatism is a generic mush with a strong element of grift, once you get down to it.
Remember that not even 30 years ago neocons wanted to pretty much abolish affirmative action, dismantle most of the social programs, rewrite the constitution to banish gay marriage, do a total crack down on illegal immigration, and many even came out on support for the de facto pro-eugenics and pro-race-realist The Bell Curve when it came out.
Conversely, Trump is/was a moderate republican to borderline centrist (if we go by 2016 standards. He would be perfectly in place in the 2008 DNC) which created backlash because he could threatened the grift, despite many of his neocons critics having more extreme views and saying more extreme things(see Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson and his murderous fantasies against muslims on twitter).

>> No.18475958

>>18475850
(You) will quite literally accomplish nothing.

>> No.18475976

>>18475436
I see that you get all your information from pol. I would suggest that you not be so utterly controlled by their dogma.
Learn to think for yourself, you might expand your brain a bit.

>> No.18475985

>>18469703
isnt it the guy who started ZeroHedge?

>> No.18475993

>>18475976
This is very ironic coming from a literal academic establishment shill.

>> No.18476002

the amazon reviews of this are hilarious

>Imagine if Nietzsche wasn't scrawny, but instead buff and beautiful
>Imagine if Rush Limbaugh was an Army Ranger Chaplain
>Imagine if Tyler Durden wasn't nihilistic, actually believed in something, and wished to spread that belief

>> No.18476030

>>18475993
I am a shill for rigor and consistency, and if you believe that twitter and bronze age pervert provides that then so be it, enjoy

>> No.18476033

>>18475743
Those weren’t the exact words of it, it’s somewhere in the first chapter I’m pretty sure, I tried looking it up but it’s 40 pages and can’t just ctrl+f it so I couldn’t be bothered.

Anyone have a pdf so I can quote it properly and you can try to rebut the section?

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>>18476030
Oh yes, your Jordan Petersons and your Jewdith Butlers are very intellectually rigorous, logically consistent, honest, brilliant scholars!

>> No.18476046

>>18476030
>rigor and consistency
Lmao you fags already lost the war don’t you get it? Fucking gay marriage was a joke just 40 years ago, now we’re onto transgender shit, soon it’ll be open pedophilia legalization. Whatever you think you’re doing you might as well ha e done nothing. Fucking anons on 4chan and trolls on twitter have moved the needle more since 2014 then you cucks have accomplished in multiple generations.

>> No.18476060

>>18475934
>do a total crack down on illegal immigration
Neocons have been pro-immigration since at least Reagan. It provides corporations with cheap labor and destroys traditional white working class. Reagan let 5 million illegal Mexicans into California.

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>>18476046
> anons on 4chan and trolls on twitter have moved the needle more since 2014
Absolute retards.

>> No.18476076

>>18476041
>>18476046
Who said anything about Judith Butler, she has never and never will produce anything worthwhile.
And also, I never said I supported fags or anything of that sort.
I am not sure why you lot are so harshly attacking me for just stating that BAP is not rigorous and not taken seriously by scholars. That is simply the truth, whether or not you like it.
You have an idea of academia that is true to a degree, there are many leftists in universities, however not every professor worships Marx and shills critical race theory.

>> No.18476084

>>18476060
>Neocons have been pro-immigration since at least Reagan
Well, not really. The are(well, were) rhetorically against it but overall not cared about it enough to oppose it(there is where the element of grift kicks in).

>> No.18476092

>>18476084
>there is where
This is where*

>> No.18476113

>>18471826
He studied with Steven Smith at Yale.

>> No.18476119

>>18476033

> anyone have a PDF

Zlib (Libgen front end) exists and has most PDFs https://1lib.us/s/Bronze%20Age%20mindset I’ll find the quote if you care lol

>> No.18476128 [DELETED] 

>>18476084
But Reagan literally let in 5 million illegals in California like I said

>> No.18476132

>>18476060
It's mostly for the farmer element that dominates a lot of the flyover states that Republicans actually win. The vast majority of post-1965 migrants to the US came to do farm work or occasionally construction.

>> No.18476137

>>18476076
So you are a fan of Jordung Peterstein then I take it

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>>18476061
4chan was not the reason Trump became president but it was meming his candidacy from the very beginning and as such exerted notable influence over it something that would eventual win a presidential election. I didn’t very much care from him as president but his campaign in 2016 and victory shattered the pre-Trump political landscape in America and Europe, and broke the confidence the elite had in their “Guaranteed victory”, which has displayed increasingly erratic action from 2 presidential impeachment’s over nothing burgers, openly allowing riots in the streets, and stealing a political election. This will be the death of them.
>>18476076
My point in you have no standing in acting snobby. You are not above twitter trolls just because you have a PhD from some gay ass ivy. If you want to criticize him then criticize him on his writing but you’ve only made bitchy claims such as “he’s not rigorous enough”.

>> No.18476154

>>18476144
There is absolutely a difference between someone who has a PhD in philosophy and someone who is a neet who shitposts on twitter, in regards to philosophy. And lack of rigor and consistency is a completely reasonable critique, and you disagree with this in good faith

>> No.18476157

>>18476119
> “Animals walk around in a state of permanent religious intoxication. This is the natural condition of the mind and intellect, the moment-to-moment perception, of man as well. I heard some computer fool say that religion is the “older virtual reality” experience, to justify his scam industry. No, the denuded state of the spirit and intellect, where you walk around “demystified” and “disenchanted” is the virtual reality condition, and a terrible condition at that. For the longest period of which we are at present aware, for hundreds of thousands of years in the Paleolithic, humans walked around, like healthy animal, in a state that we would today call religious delirium

Again when you see a deer chewing on leaves, or a tribesman knapping flint or skinning game, obviously they are doing that and engaging and thinking about how to do it directly, thinking about what to do and feeling and being much more so than dead inside people do nowadays, alternating between fake media and real but non participated in jobs, but his thing isn’t really actually accurate IMO

>> No.18476160

>>18476128
Correct. Don't change that most were(and still are) conceptionally against illegal immigration.

>> No.18476163

>>18475582
No such thing as intellectual discourse in America, so there's nothing to take back. How can you have "intellectual" discourse in the US where any attempt to define "intelligence" is inevitably branded racist?

>> No.18476181

>>18476154
Get off your pedestal and suck my dick you wormy faggot. That’s all the good you’re worth.

>> No.18476192

>>18476154
>achshually if you don’t a little bitch not in academia and respect transgender females by sucking their cocks you are not a real philosopher

>> No.18476193

>>18476181
The angry midwit reveals himself

>> No.18476199

>>18476193
That’s literally all that’s worth responding to you. Your PhD is worthless in terms of actual philosophy.

>> No.18476215

>>18476144
>This will be the death of them.
kek, they have already perfectly recovered.

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>>18476215
Why is dc still under lockdown?

>> No.18476242

>>18476199
>Your PhD is worthless in terms of actual philosophy.
So is anything regarding BAP.

>> No.18476243

>>18476226
>Why is dc still under lockdown?
It is a flex. It is literally just that.

>> No.18476256

>>18476226
Because burgers are crybaby little bitches?

>> No.18476261

>>18476243
Confident people don’t need to flex lol

>> No.18476284

>>18476261
>Confident people don’t need to flex lol
They kind of do. That is the point of the flex, unless you think that there is a bunch of multiracial wignats just awaiting orders to storm DC.

>> No.18476292

>>18469695
Yes! I'm friends with him on twitter and am in groupchats with him. He is a great guy. In real life he is an academic. Nigger went to Yale.

>> No.18476300

>>18476284
They don’t though. Pre Trump all of this would be unthinkable. They were certain they’d just always win completely devoid of historical realities. I don’t think there’s a bunch of qanon boomers about to overrun dc but even if this is just some kind of flex it indicates a feeling of insecurity that they have to display their strength in such a clumsy and overbearing way that they didn’t have to before.

>> No.18476311

>>18476300
and this relate to the next election... how?

>> No.18476331

>>18476311
I wasn’t talking about their confidence in their election, we’ll see how this Arizona thing goes and if mail balloting is stopped for the next one so they can’t cheat again, but I was more talking about their confidence that this won’t all fall apart in some USSR style way. We already have the historical parallel of Chernenko in Biden.

>> No.18476338

>>18476300
The basic issue here is that there is a huge discrepancy between how the "elites" perceive their situation(that the qanon boomers are a threat to them, their believes and their rule and might launch their assault any day now) and how it actually is(which is that they have won a victory more total and absolute than any other, to the point that they can basically rewrite reality right at front of you and get away with it), the perception of the threat being simple a result of self-gaslighting.

>> No.18476351

>>18476338
>which is that they have won a victory more total and absolute than any other, to the point that they can basically rewrite reality right at front of you and get away with it
Lmao no, nobody believes this shit, that’s why they’re insecure

>> No.18476365

>>18476199
Who knew that BAP attracted people with room temp. IQs

>> No.18476379

>>18476365
Seethe it’s the truth

>> No.18476387

>>18476351
>You see, they just have total control over big business, the press, the education system going from pre-schools to PhDs, the academy, the military, the entertainment industry, the federal bureaucracy, and big tech, and oh, 90% of anyone younger than 25 is a fanatical true believer in their ideology
>It is no big deal, really

>> No.18476396

If he's so great why hasn't he been featured on the front page of the New York Times Style section?

>> No.18476406

>>18472097
might makes right

>> No.18476407

>>18476387
Anon they’ve had all that since the 70s (military was a bit late more around the 90s), the fact is Trump destroyed their entire gameplan now that they’re out in the open. The loss he caused them is pretty humiliating actually I don’t know if they just became overconfident or if the children of the elite increasingly became lower iq, it’s not like Trump is some hyper competent guy.

>> No.18476408

>>18476300
There are probably some guys in the military and maybe some glows who have some ideas of that nature, whether theyre at all organized idk, to be effective they'd by definition have to be operating under the radar. That's why they're purging the ranks and going all in on the domestic terrorism stuff, it's not like they're scared of the magaboomer civilians.

I doubt anything is really going to happen tbqh but they must think it is somewhat of a threat or they wouldn't be doing the purges. Long term though the society they're building is not going to work, it's approaching commie levels of dysfunction already, in some ways it's actually worse. Some of the stuff the elite do makes me wonder how much of their own koolaid they've swallowed; they dont even seem to be optimizing for productivity and exploitation. Like China's elite while imperfect appear to be behaving way more sensibly just purely in terms of their own interests. I sometimes wonder if they're genuinely just retards because I dont get what they're doing. Maybe they have goals I dont understand beyond just extracting wealth and consolidating power.

>> No.18476446

>>18476407
Which aspect of their “entire gameplan” have Trump destroyed? They have made asses out of themselves, sure, but you act like that will be anything more than a vague memory in 10 years, and that it won’t have been completely memory holed in 20. Hell, even the idea that the elites were a bunch of clowns was already widespread long before Trump.
>>18476408
>Some of the stuff the elite do makes me wonder how much of their own koolaid they've swallowed
They are true believers, for most part. The thing is that the platonic “noble lie” don’t work, and true believers will always hijack seize control eventually, no matter how cynical the goals of the lie were.

>> No.18476466

>>18469695
No. Fuck off to >>>/pol/

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>>18476408
Oh I’m positive it’ll collapse eventually, I’m just concerned in how long it’s allowed to continue. Are we talking a decade or 70 years like the USSR? The collapse itself will be a hard but necessary thing, but the longer the current regime goes on the more damage and suffering it will be allowed to cause.

I’ve no idea what the elite is doing, it’s possible they’re trying to completely breakdown and subjugate the middle and working classes so they can return to a sort of feudalism, but it just seems to me the risk would be too great for it to fall apart on them from many directions.

>> No.18476499

>>18476472
There won’t be any collapse, at least not before 2100, just stagnation and mild decay, unless the USA and China go nuclear, but I doubt that.

>> No.18476505

>>18476446
1. The Republican Party is no longer their big business neocon war machine party. Trump has made its biggest issue immigration and anti-elitism it’s credo.

2. Like I said it’s out in the open now. A majority of the Republican Party believe the election was stolen from them, that’s some shit that will have rippl effects for generations.

3. The elites not only look like asses they look weak and incompetent, and I do believe that is the actual case. If you want to rule a society it’s not an easy thing, chaos is the natural course of action. History is constant it didn’t end in the 1990s like Fukuyama said.

>> No.18476506

>>18476472
Feudalism was both more productive(given then technology) and more humane(completely unironically) than whatever the fuck they're doing now.

>> No.18476510

>>18476506
I agree on both accounts, they’d have to be some next level psychopaths.

>> No.18476541

>>18469695
Jesus how big is that book? Looks unwieldy.

>> No.18476542

>>18476499
The thing is how long does it take for the entire country turn into California, because that point when there’s nowhere else to flee to and people lives are shit enough they will stop give a fuck about dying and be will to do some viet congress shit.

>> No.18476553

>>18476542
*cong

>> No.18476554

>>18476541
It’s not that long, the font is fairly large.

>> No.18476568

>>18476542
California is manageable, I mean it's really just another latin American state, which are volatile but they subsist. The race maoism they're revving up now though is not sustainable, it's an insanely fucking stupid thing to promote among your subjects.

>> No.18476576

>>18476472
>I’ve no idea what the elite is doing
They're trying to pay for the Great Society and New Deal programs and promote racial equality.

>> No.18476583

>>18476576
Yes because racial equality means letting black people burn down their neighborhoods and pushing transgenderism on kids.

>> No.18476586

>>18476576
If they wanted to pay for that they'd be promoting industry, employment, and fertility.

>> No.18476603

>>18476583
>letting black people burn down their neighborhoods
Yes.
>transgenderism
Transexuality in the US is a means for other people to partake in sacral victimhood, so in a way, yes.

>>18476586
>promoting industry and employment
Industry especially in the Anglosphere has already been regulated out of existence - they've had quite enough of technological progress, thank you very much.
>fertility
Can't have fertility and contraception at the same time. In conflicts like this, the rights of the victim (women) take priority. Besides, there are infinitely many Mexicans or Africans that can make up the population shortfall.
>This will definitely work because racial equality is a divinely-given Truth. I know this because I learned it in civics class. I am very smart. I am an Expert.
>t. typical government employee

>> No.18476605

>>18476505
>1. The Republican Party is no longer their big business neocon war machine party. Trump has made its biggest issue immigration and anti-elitism it’s credo.
The republicans literally just release an ad where they accused Biden of being a russian agent because he wasn’t being hard enough of Putin, and they are still all for big business tax breaks. Don’t mistake tweets for actual changes in polices.
>2. Like I said it’s out in the open now. A majority of the Republican Party believe the election was stolen from them, that’s some shit that will have rippl effects for generations.
Nobody will remember that in 20 years. See also how Kennedy won because of the mob in Chicago, and nobody gave a shit then or now.

>> No.18476618

>>18476605
>Nobody will remember that in 20 years. See also how Kennedy won because of the mob in Chicago, and nobody gave a shit then or now.
Exactly. This isn't even getting into some of the elections in the 1800s...
In reality the US has NEVER had a legitimate election by the standards of contemporary India. Perhaps one day the US can aspire to reach Indian levels of civilization, but I doubt it.

>> No.18476635

>>18476605
>The republicans literally just release an ad where they accused Biden of being a russian agent because he wasn’t being hard enough of Putin, and they are still all for big business tax breaks. Don’t mistake tweets for actual changes in polices.
In georgia the republicans cracked down on big business when it passed its election laws. There are still plenty of neocon republicans in congress but they are being phased out. The neocon era of the republican party is over. I'm not saying the republican party will be perfect either but it will certainly be far in a way better then it used to be. Certainly the republican electorate will never vote a Mitt Romney type for president again.

>Nobody will remember that in 20 years. See also how Kennedy won because of the mob in Chicago, and nobody gave a shit then or now.
That happens when you get assassinated and then the VP is so bad that he doesnt even run in the 1968 election lol.

>> No.18476637

>>18476635
*when it criticized its new election laws

>> No.18476639

>>18470508
Alamariu is a fake dox, people have contacted colleagues of his and none have ever heard of him.

>> No.18476643

>>18475875
>esoteric Hitlerist
Holy cringe.

>> No.18476654

/lit/ - literature

>> No.18476693

>>18476639
The way his buddies on twitter talk about the dx makes me think it might be real. That being said bap is extremely based in general and I genuinely dont get why anyone who isn't a dick would attack him. I dont entirely agree with his ideas but his basic ethos is simply great, I have never seen him say something that seemed dishonest or needlessly cruel and he mostly just promotes self improvement.

I think his followers and detractors might expect him to be too much, he is just some guy after all, basically a shitposter. His whole style really is shitposting and it bears the trademark semi-ironic honesty and flamboyance of the uncensored internet.

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>>18476654
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>> No.18476747

You can't be against the modern world while shilling some sort of American nationalism. America is where demons enter this world, the harbinger of modernity and all the nightmares yet to come. The total destruction of America is the world's fortune.

>> No.18476799

>>18475734
They may have then, but at our current position in history privileged with the hindsight to see the way things have shaken out, we can safely say that they weren't really liberal.

>> No.18476809

>>18475743
I think it's more like the ritual of doing the snae thingvover and over again. Animals don't have a lot of possibilities in the wild despite their being in savage freedom.

>> No.18476826

>>18476157
Oic as heidegger might say they are not as "ahead-of-oneself"

>> No.18476902

>>18469695
bap is incredibly based, I highly recommend his book.

>> No.18476936

>>18476902
You are a bot you sneaky serpent
Not a live thing

>> No.18476953

Reminder to everyone in this thread that catfag is a unironic shizoid shut-in and if you're arguing with his moronic ass you have only yourself to blame.

>> No.18477025

>>18476936
get fuked cunt how about that?

>> No.18477049

>>18477025
I apologize

>> No.18477069

>>18475797
>neofascism
You fucking losers just invent all kinds of new ISMS don't you?

>> No.18477074

>marxists ITT:
>NEOCONS ARE LITERALLY HIDDDLER!!!
Wait until they learn who the father of Neoconservative is and what the actual platform of Neocons are... lmao

>> No.18477094

>>18476639
Not surprised. This is what another anon said. Doxing is only used for both the threat of physical violence and/or locking one out of possible employment. It's a classic trick the KGB used to use against dissidents and because America is becoming more and more like the Soviet Union (ironic that the leftists and marxists continue to chimp out, western leftists are the most braindead group of people on the planet which is why even the Chinese make jokes about them) OPSEC becomes ever more important. Probably that poor bastard Alamariu, whoever he is, pissed off some Leftist lunatic on his campus and the lunatic tried to use character assassination to cancel him. It's always so incredible to me that these Leftist freaks and their ever increasing descent into utter madness (polymorphous transkin) are just completely unable to see that they are being used like the stupid lumpenproles they are to cultivate a base of power for international financial cabals. When you get protected from every single major corporation for whatever new fad you're being told to follow (whether its LGBTSTWQ+, transkin, george floydism, etc) and you do not pause for a moment and question it all then you are either brainwashed or simply stupid. I think it's a combination of both. There's been a lot of research done on the poison that is the American food supply. 1/36 Americans today will be born with autism, and that grows exponentially as the food supply becomes more and more poisoned. I think this is half the reason why they put so much horrible things into food. To make an actual ape class of mutts that are unable to think for themselves and completely unable to resist mob mentality, etc that they are the helpless forever pawns of the global cabal state. You know Stalin tried to make a crossbreed between humans and apes to make an entire "worker race"? I think we're seeing that picked up again.

>> No.18477177

>>18474005
I’d been reading it outside and she just randomly opened it up and read a page. It’s soo racist at parts it’s retarded

>> No.18477189

>>18477177
>It's soo racist at parts
If you're still buying into ISM spamming then you're not going to make it. I suggest reading Harry Potter instead.

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>>18477177
>w*m*n dictates what you can or can't read
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.18478356

>>18476799
So is BAM and BAP, then.

>> No.18478792

>>18476554
I hate that shit. That fucker did it with Atomic Habits, too. Things actually about the length of a fucking blogpost yet the book Gigantic. A big big book.

>> No.18479187

>>18475655
Yeah, it is possible. In fact, it is easy and you can do it using books, at first.
>How to Read a Book (Mortimer J. Adler)
>The Trivium (Sister Miriam Joseph)
Note this has different versions: Earlier = better. Some feminist changed the language in the later editions.
>Introduction to English Grammar (S. Greenbaum, G. Nelson)
>Creative and Critical Thinking (W.Edgar Moore)
This one is funny because, although it may just be a mistake for my book, it is printed upside down.
>An Introduction to Logic (I. Copi)
>Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student (E. P. J. Corbett)
>The New Oxford Guide to Writing (T. S. Kane)
You may have seen this list before, but this is the trivium. The beginning. You might be thinking "Yeah, but I already made it through school" -- Here is the problem, they do not teach much more than a very shallow amount of this, if anything.
Now I'll recommend some books, you don't need to read them, but they're at least an interesting perspective on history and the state of the world. These books can get you murdered by a leftist:
>A History of Central Banking (Stephen M. Goodson)
Provides a deep criticism of capitalism and usury from a historical perspective. (Mentions the Jews, but only in the historical sense, there's not much anti-semitism from the author other than the quote at the front.)
>March of the Titans (Arthur Kemp)
It came in 2 volumes before, but he sells a combined version. It's really thick and covers 350 centuries of history regarding "White" people.
>The Decline of the West Volume 1 and 2 (O. Spengler)
This one is pretty obvious.
It would be good to pick up some other understandings. You may want to learn about different religions:
>The Orthodox Study Bible
I was recommended this guy a Christian friend of mine when I asked him for a bible that has the least amount of liberties taken with the translations.
>The Tanakh
>The Vedas
>Occult Japan (P. Lowell)
>Corpus Hermeticum
Oh I keep running out of text. I reduced a lot.

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>mfw people permeated with american culture attempt to think

>> No.18479204

>>18475655
Continued >>18479187
>you can do it using books, at first
At first!
Remember it is important to meet and talk to people from all over the world, listen to different perspectives. Ignore, or just don't take seriously, people who can't discuss a position without using ad homimems. Yes, I realize this will eliminate a lot of leftists. But there are leftists out there who are genuinely intelligent and just have a different world view than myself. I've more "leftist" friends than "rightist" friends and they know my positions.
It just takes time and effort to create a clear understanding.
It's really on you to figure out your own path, and after you read the ones recommended prior to the Goodson book, you'll be able to find your own interest and go from there.
Take care and good luck.

>> No.18479278 [DELETED] 

>>18479204
I think from my experience, gen x and older millennial leftists are completely closed off from hearing us out and considering our perspective. They will just shout racist and sexist and homophobe at you and there is absolutely no getting through to them at all.
But younger millennial leftists are more willing to consider our point of view and acknowledge our points.

>> No.18479736

>>18474118
bruh, Nazi's are a ideology based out of the enlightenment.

>> No.18479741

>>18479736
Yeah what's your point

>> No.18479872

>>18479741
So, is BAP your bible? or what is your ideology, exactly?

>> No.18480019

>>18479872
>he just made an assumption
Not him, but I love that you guys exist. I always crack the hell up at all your assumptions and how completely baffled you guys get at simple concepts.
I would not be surprised in the slightest if he were a fellow traveler of natsoc at best.

>> No.18480416

I like fascism as much as the next guy, but this was just another shit philosophy book. I don't like fascism because they never get to the point or talk about things in reality.

>> No.18480431

>>18469695
This thread should be moved to /fit/

>> No.18481079

>>18469728
You're going to get the military to pay for med? Interesting, i'm doing the same.

>> No.18481268

>>18469703
>I haven't read it, but he blocked me on twitter with out ever interacting with him or the faggots in his sphere lmao
Did that happened after the election/Capitol Riots? Because he got insanely salty over that and started mass blocking.

>> No.18482049

>>18477049
thank you for your apology