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>I did, however, pass by one young girl, and she was like a goddess who came down from heaven. She was walking alone, in her bathing suit, with her luscious blonde hair blowing in the wind. I couldn’t help but slyly admire her beauty as we passed by each other. I was scared. I was scared that she might view me as nothing but an inferior insect who’s presence ruins her atmosphere. Her beauty was intoxicating! And then, just as we passed each other, she actually looked at me. She looked at me and smiled. Most girls never even deigned to look at me, and this one actually looked at me and smiled. I had never felt so euphoric in my life. One smile. One smile was all it took to brighten my entire day. The power that beautiful women have is unbelievable. They can temporarily turn a desperate boy’s whole
world around just by smiling.
Holy shit, this is top unintentional comedy. What is your favorite quote of St. Elliot manifesto?
No, this is not political.

>> No.18427059

That one was pretty endearing though, I’ve felt similar. The one where he throws his coffe on two girls is hilarious.

>> No.18427070

>>18427059
I hope things get better for you.

>> No.18427071

>>18427018
Where’s the lie though.

>> No.18427081

>>18427070
Why? I think it’s a pretty common feeling.

>> No.18427235

>>18427018
literally happened to me

>> No.18427275

>>18427018
>be me
>be homo
>have crush on boy
>seeming him smile makes me happy
>he takes dislike to me
>makes it his mission to ruin my life
>works with a few others to ostracise me at a bad point in my life
>repeatedly told to kill myself, berated, trodden-down, and outcast
I don't think I've ever felt happy seeing someone smile since. Weird revelation. I know the sentiment he's talking about, but it almost... felt forgotten... until someone put it into words. Possible one of the least stupid things he'd said.

>> No.18427306

>>18427275
Kys faggot

>> No.18427314

>>18427306
If only anon, if only.

>> No.18427320

true ascension is realising you have the power to command that feeling at will regardless of extraneous circumstances

>> No.18427397

>>18427059
It wasn't coffee, it was orange juice

>> No.18427402

>>18427018

>Be younger
>Sit in bus face to face with cute girl
>We make eye contact
>Maintain eye contact for around 1 minute, feel heart beating
>Eventually give in and just look away


>Be me again in college
>Go home from work, in public transport
>Cute girl sits near me while I browse the news
>She puts her hand on my thigh and asks me what phone I have, clearly into me
>I just pretend I don't notice what she's hinting at cause I'm too shy

Tfw I missed chances.

>> No.18427408

How hard is it to just start talking? Betaness is completely Greek to me.

>> No.18427412

I can still remember the girl that smiled at me while passing me by when I was 13.

>> No.18427461

>>18427408
Well, as you are here, I guess you mean you speak beta fluently and have memorized all of the great acts: catching tears, up all night - talking, why do I always go for assholes? / could you imagine if we dated, gross / I saw her pantyline in the grocery and everybody's favorite, why can't we - say it with me now - JUST. BE. FRIENDS.

>> No.18427580

>>18427408

For me it's because I'm insecure on my physical appearance and my economic status. Like I avoid escalating things because I don't live on my own since rent is a waste of money.

>> No.18427597

>>18427580
Nothing will ever be given to you in this life. If you want something, you reach out and take it. This is basic stuff your strong father figure should have told you, but that's less common these days. Many such cases.

>> No.18427626

>>18427402
Such many cases

>> No.18427630

>>18427018

>A learned women might just as well have a beard, for that expresses in a more recognizable form the profundity for which she strives

>> No.18427632

>>18427059
Same, I still remember a nurse being nice to me five years ago even though she didn't have to (I wasn't even a patient and she worked in the ER and looked exhausted)
I wish girls would smile at me more often

>> No.18427649

>>18427597

I know, but as I said, I can get to talk to girls, I actually don't feel shy or anything talking to them, but I never escalate because I worry that if I'd ever escalate to sex, it would be extremely awkward to not have somewhere to bring her since I live with my parents to save the money I would otherwise waste on rent.

>> No.18427693

>>18427580
Maybe this should tell you that rent isn’t a waste of money anon.

>> No.18427723

>>18427402
Kek that second scenario happened to me as well, still pisses me off
>she was a lightskin black tho

>> No.18427729

>>18427630
This is actually pretty funny and insightful

>> No.18427736

>>18427275
Don’t kys faggot

>> No.18427746

>>18427736
If I thought life were a choice, I would kill myself, happily, readily, but I don't think I would be able to even if I tried.

>> No.18427797

>>18427402
>>18427018

In Autumn I had a girl sit next to me in the train, and she did something similar. She looked at me a lot, I thought it was because I smelled or something, I was too involved reading so I didn't really notice that she might have been into me and just waited for me to smile at her, answer her with similar attention.
She was so hot I swear and it felt like she was lit, she seemed to know who I was reading because she looked at the book so attentively, but I might just be imagining that.

Oh bros, oh frens --- I'm so desparate for love right now. I have all the friends and family and success I need and want, I'm content with my life's pace and condition, but emotionally I'm so alone.

>> No.18427981

>>18427018
Did the goblino Nikolas Cruz ever write literature like the Supreme gentleman?

>> No.18427997

God I'm glad I have a gf

>> No.18428002

>>18427461
Holy shit, not everyone here is an absolute like you who can't even talk to women and cries about it every night

>> No.18428030

>>18427018
now you understand the real reason why those feminists really hate elliot. because he was a tremendous faggot, but he also respected feminity and beauty.

>> No.18428107

>>18427018
If this manifesto was fictional it would easily be todays Underground Man

>> No.18428109

>>18427693

It is... because my parents don't have enough money to last month by month. Rent is like half of my salary, I would literally have no way to save money if I went out to live in rent. Why would I sabotage myself economically so bad just for some pussy ? It's annoying, but it's worse to be economically handicapped than emotionally I guess. For example last year we started a court process for property where we live (long story) and I had to pay like 4000 euro all by myself (despite being the child of my parents which should have dealt with this issue, not burden me with it). My salary is 500 euro, it took me a lot of time to save up that much. Now I got around 8,500 euros saved (the process isn't over, but payments are covered, hoping to win it, I think we got chances). It's basically investing in my own future because after my parents die, the property will be transferred to me, instead of living on the streets.

But yeah, point is that I couldn't have done this if I just lived in rent. I'd have no way to save up money to do anything. I'm the only one that saves money in my family and that takes care to not open the gate to careless spending.

>>18427723

Yea to be honest I was kind of shocked because she seemed slightly younger than me as well, I didn't expect someone to be that straightforward, especially in public transport. I still kick myself for not exchanging numbers at least. Shit happens.

>>18427797

I know how you feel man. I also would like to have someone be there for me emotionally, but I overthink a lot of things and feel like I have to work on myself a lot before even trying to find a relationship, so I keep delaying it. It doesn't help now that in my workplace we don't really have a way to meet other people, team members interact usually just with team members...
---

I've had other opportunities though. In college first years I went on a date with a pretty hot girl (but nothing happened cause at that time I was pretty insecure about not having a job and thought it would be awkward, she seemed like a girl with a better material situation definitely).

Another girl in my class in college seemed into me, I never thought much because she always gave an on/off vibe, I couldn't read her at all, at the end of our last year she literally started being very playful to the point where she outright stepped me on the foot multiple times, intentionally, yet I just brushed it off with "what are you doing ?". I feel bad for her, I hope she knows it wasn't her, but me being retarded.

On the other hand.. at my high school friend's birthday parties met a lot of interesting girls (some shallow ngl, never knew hardship), one of them literally playfully touched my shoulders, dedicated a song to me and we ended up kissing, but didn't escalate (I have autism, please be patient).

Most I had was sucking on a women's tits, finerbanging her and then getting a blowjob (woman ~30), but that was it.

Feels bad man. Never relationship tho.

>> No.18428325

>>18427018
It's people like OP that make me have an irrational hatred of posters on /lit/ that classify mystic testimonials as "comedic." All mysticism is excessive. You're only outing yourself as an irony poisoned fool if you cannot engage with the testimony of a zealot. If you're filtered by excess you will never breakthrough to find anything of inordinate value . Enjoy your air conditioned spectator's box with a complimentary please clap led sign.

>> No.18428348

>>18427275
Sorry, but straight men are wired to view gay men as diseased things. It's based in monke and present day reality. I know you can't help who you were attracted to, but don't take his natural reaction too personally either. Yes, it is shitty behavior, but it kept monkes from going extinct.

>> No.18428469

>>18427018
There's nothing weird about this. Two normalfag (kinda effeminate but normal people with friends and gfs) friends have confessed me feeling this.

>> No.18428479

>>18427081
>I think it’s a pretty common feeling
it's self-loathing racial fetishism so no

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>self improving myself
what a goofball

>> No.18428786

>>18427071
It's true that a beautiful girl flashing a smile or some friendliness your way can brighten your day, and that's a universal concept, but this shouldn't be an excuse to y'know.

>> No.18428787

>>18428325
STFU, this is not a "mystic testimonial", Rodgers was a drama queen. He had literally everything to succeed in life but yet he failed miserably because he was a self entitled narcissistic. He sit around expecting that girls befriend and had sex with him out of the blue. To quote the faggot himself:
>In truth, the move Santa Barbara was actually a chance that I was giving to the world, not the other way around! I was giving the world one last chance to give me the life that I know I’m entitled to (...)
> On weekend nights, I took a few shots from my vodka bottle and set out on walks around the town, desperately hoping that I would stumble across some opportunity to make friends. I often ended up sitting alone at some café, hoping girls would talk to me before I sobered up. No girl ever did. I then went back home to lie in my bed alone.

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>>18427275
>be homo

>> No.18428831

>>18428109
nice blog incel

>> No.18428843

>>18428787
>he failed miserably because he was a self entitled narcissistic
That's not really his fault

>> No.18428885

>>18428786
kill her?

>> No.18428909

>>18428787
Any person overly obsessed with an idea to the point a normie can easily smell their disease is a mystic. Find another synonym (I used zealot later on if you actually read that far) if it upsets you, but the point still stands.

>> No.18428932

>>18427402
>that college story
I've had this happen 3ish times.
1st time she casually mentioned she was a single mother so I dodged out tactful.
2nd she had a boyfriend and he looked buff as shit + whores always carry STDs
3rd we talked about weaponized satellites for half an hour but I never got contact information at all and it was for that one class

>> No.18428933

>>18428843
blame his rich father who substituted money for parenting

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>>18428932
>we talked about weaponized satellites for half an hour

>> No.18428997

>>18427018
Classic incel literature. No wonder /lit/ likes him.

>> No.18429000
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I slapped the ass of one of the girls mentioned in the manifesto in a bar a month or two before the killings happened

>> No.18429119

>>18427018
>I was scared that she might view me as nothing but an inferior insect who’s presence ruins her atmosphere.
should be "whose"
I sincerely hope this isn't a final draft.

>> No.18429240

>>18427736
This.
>>18427746
Seek God to the best of your earnest ability, but do not put presupposition onto how He should respond. Accept imperfection, give thanks for any and all blessings, learn to see blessings that you are presently blinded of.

>> No.18429260

>>18427018
Could not bother to read his book but his speech in his car was absolutely hilarious, like some kind of Bond villain

>> No.18429706

>>18428935
It was fun she was super into it.

>> No.18430148

>>18427018
>Holy shit, this is top unintentional comedy.
No it is not. Not even to you. You are lying to make him look like a fool, so that no one empathizes with him and follows his steps. That is a good goal, but I hate liars. As they usually are moronic shit who just do not have any kind of counter arguments what is being said, so they invalidate what was said by retarded lies about what was being said or the person who said it, instead of admitting that they are wrong and not wasting people's time. And they even do not bother to concoct up any believable, more intelligent lies, but spew all kinds of blatantly idiotic shit. Not referring to you here exactly, yours was not exactly idiotic one, but a lie after all.

Now let me think about the favorite quote.

>> No.18430152

>>18430148
Excellent post

>> No.18430166

That’s well written and filled with humility. There’s even wisdom to it. It’s weird to me you picked this excerpt when there’s plenty of bizarre, pathetic things in his manifesto you could’ve picked. I didn’t read the thread but I assume most others agree with me

>> No.18430214

>>18427275
Kill yourself or connect your genitals to a battery, your choice.

>> No.18430232

>>18430152
Thanks. Although I am not sure if that was sarcasm and means the opposite.

Here's one of my favorite quotes from his manifesto. It proves that he had intrapersonal intelligent and also that he was very self-aware, unlike what people tend to lie about him:

"Due to living in an entirely new environment, with lots of new experiences to come with it, the first month in Santa Barbara went by very slowly. I was relieved when July arrived, and I was able to visit home for a weekend. When I arrived back in Woodland Hills, I felt like I hadn’t been there for ages. It was a pleasant feeling, as it gave me the subconscious impression that my life was finally moving forward instead of staying stagnant." MTW p.86.

I like this one too, as it was so tragic, marking the point of no return:

"The worst part of this whole ordeal was not getting beaten up, oh no. It was the fact that no one showed any concern. There was only one group who helped me to the end of Del Playa, but after that they abandoned me. Not one girl offered to help me as I stumbled home with a broken leg, beaten and bloody. If girls had been attracted to me, they would have offered to walk me to my room and take care of me. They would have even offered to sleep with me to make me feel better. But no, not one girl showed an ounce of concern for me. They didn’t care. No one cared about me. I was all alone." MTW p.122

After this incident he did not only call his mother, but also cried his eyes out to one of his neighbors and swore that he is going to kill himself and all of the motherfuckers.

https://youtu.be/LnHUmt09u3k?t=103

And there are more, but these are the ones to come into my mind first, aside from the more known ones.

>> No.18430242

I wish I could remember venerating women. A woman to me now is like a Kinder surprise egg and the surprise is a cat turd. You can only date so many of them before all the magic wears off and you realize it's 1/3 living porno doll (only partly functional), 1/3 annoying roommate, 1/3 tween sibling you have to hang around.

I miss when I didn't know all the ingredients, and I miss massively overvaluing sex. Women are a burden to me and to the world in general.

>> No.18430321

>>18428909
>Any person overly obsessed with an idea to the point a normie can easily smell their disease is a mystic.
Haha! That was greatly put. If I was a teen I would write this on a huge piece of paper and attach it onto my room's door. Also someone should make t-shirts with this one.

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>>18427018
>I made a vow on New Year’s Day that I wouldn’t masturbate until I did something to successfully get one step further in life. Having a high sex drive, I usually masturbated at least every other day. I always fantasized about sex… and the fact that I was unable to have sex made me even more obsessed with it. To stop masturbating for more than three days was a big deal. I lasted seven days.

>I am an intelligent gentleman, and I deserve the love of girls more than the other obnoxious boys of my age, and yet they get girls and I don’t.

>All I could do was remember every single insult, so I can get revenge in a more efficient way in the future. That is who I am. I don’t act stupidly or rashly. I remember every insult, and I wait until the time is right to strike.

>How can I enjoy a sunset anymore, knowing that other men get to enjoy them with their beautiful girlfriends at their side? There was no more life for me to live.

This guy needed philosophy or God or a goal in life, or really something, anything at all to give meaning to his existence. Also funniest scene is when he thinks he can beat up some guys who're having a party, but gets beaten up instead and has his watch stolen. What a retard.

>> No.18430662

>>18427597
Thanks for telling me that anon, I have saved in my quotes folder.

>> No.18430795

>>18427632
>ER

>> No.18430801

>>18427018
See >>18430305 for the girl POV.

>> No.18430802

>>18427059
This. If I happen by a beautiful woman and she smiles and exchanges some words with me, I'm usually happy the rest of the day and more energized towards goals. Even if I get rejected which is what happened last time.

>> No.18430805

>>18429000
>digits
You've had my interest...
>story
... But now you have my attention

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i saved a bunch of the funniest parts of this fag's manifesto when it first came out
i'll dump what i've got

>> No.18430813

>>18427408
I just can't most of the time. And if I do I need to hype myself up and be in an exceptional mood before hand. I think it's because I'm lazy and typically don't like to apply maximum effort. There's probably a bit of fear of rejection in there. But I'm just shy and don't care to talk to most people. If I want to change that I have to really make an effort to talk to everyone I can so it's a life habit. But if I stop I just become very reclusive.

>> No.18430816

>>18427018

You'd think that being an incel and a simp would be contradictory but it is really the exact opposite huh

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>>18430817

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>>18430820

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>>18430812
>erection-causing body

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>>18430825

>> No.18430833

>>18430812
>>18430817
>>18430820
>>18430825
I can sympathize with him but he really should've found some kind of outlet instead of further obsessing about women, despair is addictive but it still feels like shit.

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>>18430838

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>>18430844

>> No.18430853

He had a white, male, possibly britbong friend who tried to help him

> How Dale Launer knew Elliot Rodger
Dale Launer met Elliot's father, Peter Rodger, a commercial photographer and director, about 15 years ago. Last year, Peter told Dale that his son was frustrated because he lacked experience with women. Dale was developing a TV programme with a 20-year-old man as one of the characters and thought it would be mutually beneficial to help Elliot with some advice - Peter agreed. Elliot mentioned his conversations with Dale in the manifesto he sent the night before the killings

We met a few times and emailed a lot. He seemed convinced that women hated him but he could never tell me why. It seemed like he would perceive cruelness or hatefulness when in fact, I suspected, he was just being ignored. I remember giving him an assignment once so he could try to establish some kind of dynamic with a woman.

I told him, "When you see a woman next time you're on campus and you like her hair or sunglasses, just pay her a compliment."

I told him, "It's a freebie, something in passing, you're not trying to make conversation. Keep walking, don't make any long eye contact, just give the free compliment." The idea being you might make a friend if you make someone feel good.

I said to Elliot, "In the next few weeks - if you see them they'll likely give you a smile - and you can smile back and eventually turn this into chit-chat."

I got in touch with him a few weeks later and asked if he did it. He said "no". And when asked why not, he said "Why do I have to compliment them? Why don't they compliment me?"

At that stage, I realised he was very troubled.

In one of the last emails I sent to him, I became quite frustrated.

I pointed out that he had the choice to change his circumstances, and if he didn't make the effort then he had to take some of the blame. He insisted that, "I have to blame someone for my troubles, and I don't blame myself."

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>>18430849

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>>18430854

>> No.18430861

>>18427018
I am ESL, so I cant claim authorithy on this subject, but why do people keep saying his prose was bad? I unironically think its better than 95% of modern published writers

>> No.18430863

>>18430242
Kek. I love watching all the pua and other romantic advice shows and half of it boils down to "yeah you gotta just ignore what she says (negatives) and be unmoved by it while boasting her accomplishments and noticing her new clothes and hair" like they're actual children. My problem is that I'm not a chad so women don't just come to me and I also don't feel like putting in genuine effort. So even though I know I can get women I don't because I never feel like trying to.

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>>18430859

>> No.18430867

>>18427408
I’ve had people for sure be interested in me but it seems like the moment I start talking their eyes glaze over. Spaghetti spilling whenever I meet people has reinforced this cycle. Autism too strong, me thinks.

>> No.18430869

>>18428479
Feeling euphoric for a while when a pretty girl smiles at you is very common for a lonely men and it has nothing to do with the rest of elliots delusions. I felt it as well

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>>18430872

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>>18430877

>> No.18430885

>>18430854
Absolutely mental that he could write this and not see how hilarious it sounds. It’s like a real life Ignatius Reilly.

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part 1 of the best bit

>> No.18430888

>>18430861
I don't know who says it's bad prose because I think it's decent. But when people say it's bad, they're most likely criticizing the manifesto's repetitive nature. Look at
>>18430854
>>18430859
>>18430844
>>18430838
pages and pages about the same thing. Elliot sees a man and woman who are dating and he gets jealous and angry.

One positive point about Elliot's writing is that it's grammatically correct, which automatically makes it superior to F Gardner's books.

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>>18430886

>> No.18430890

>>18430885
I think what makes him feel the hatred is the bad act he did

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bonus material
elliot's search history

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>>18430901

>> No.18430910

I just watched his retribution video. Dude sounds like an actual villain. He sounds like a final fantasy main villain like Kefka or Seymour or sephiroth.

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some of his message board posts

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>>18430910
relevant

>> No.18430921

>>18430812
>>18430817
>>18430820
>>18430825
Fuck, reading this shit is so depressing. I don't think I could read the entire book

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>>18430911

>> No.18430925

>>18430918
He should have just pursued wealth like the rest of us

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>>18430922

>> No.18430932

>>18430911
Hey you know about his handwritten journals?

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>>18430932
new to me, post 'em if you have some content :)

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>>18430825
I wonder if this is the maths girl that he had a crush on. This woman is Brittany Story (now married and changed her name to Brittany Lauren), she's white, blonde, has a baby, and lives in California

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>>18430938
Okay, here they are. I post part 2. To find part 1 replace 2 with 1.

https://www.massshooternarrative.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/RODGER.Elliot.HandwrittenJournalPart2.pdf

>> No.18430962

>>18430910
I wonder if he was like that with his family too, or if he was just very quiet. I feel like they must have known he was a nutjob.

>> No.18430974

>>18428348
>Yes, it is shitty behavior, but it kept monkes from going extinct.
How exactly?

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>>18430942
Yep, it is her. I wonder if she is the same as whose ass >>18429000 slapped?

>> No.18430979

>>18430962
Depends how his family was. If they had high standards and some general moral code then I'm sure he was quiet. That's what that kind of environment does to you. You will be scared that everything you do or say will be scrutinized under a parents disapproval. So you opt to do not a whole lot when you can help it. I'm projecting at this point cause that's my experience. I don't know much about that guy but wouldn't he surprised in the slightest if he had a similar story.

>> No.18430987

A lot of this excerpts feel like he had some sense of irony and self-awarness. How can we even know now that he was writing everything unironically, and not just as some sort of humorous self-therapy?

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>> No.18430991

>>18430987
Because he shot people and killed himself.

>> No.18430992

>>18430987
>How can we even know now that he was writing everything unironically,

Autism punctuated with mass murder

>> No.18431004

>>18430978
perhaps it's better than Elliot offed himself. I don't think he could handle this. But then again, if he had lived, he would've seen the resurgence in Asian pride and representation and shit, and he may have come to accept and celebrate his Asian heritage

>> No.18431013

>>18431004
He wasnt asian, he was hapa mutt

>> No.18431027

>>18431013
The Asian pride movement considers anyone with even a little bit of Asian blood to be Asian, like the 1/128 Cherokee princess Native American meme

>> No.18431044

>>18431027
He clearly felt closer to his white part >>18430901 and would sooner advocate for white pride

>> No.18431057

>>18431044
Yes, that was the dominant thought in the mid 2010s. But now the political climate has changed. With BLM comes Asian pride, aka #StopAsianHate, Elliot may have come to identify proudly as Asian

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>>18427402
>girl in school invites me to come over to her house when her parents are gone
>don't go
>the parents of another girl at school tell my mother that their daughter won't stop talking about how she wants to marry me and how great I am at home
>mother forgets to tell me until years later
>girl from the neighborhood comes over to visit me on her own accord multiple times
>leave her standing in my dark room reeking of cum while I rage in tf2 every time
>Girl at work gives me her number after the first shift together
>too lazy to put it into phone immediately, lose it somewhere
>girl at a exam touches my thigh, shares her peanuts with me and we walk around the city, talking about molecular genetics for 4 hours after the exam
>forgot to ask for her number, never saw her again

>> No.18431216

>>18431210
Sounds like women throw themselves at you often. What's your secret buddy?

>> No.18431296

>>18430962
His father said that he was always very polite and friendly and you could've never known what goes inside of his head. That he was a very good liar in that sense.

An interesting interview about how he was as a person.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/santa-barbara-shooting-elliot-rodgers-family-friend-simon-23911466

>>18431004
I am sure he had snapped eventually at the point getting to know how all of those people he knew and especially the women who he desired are doing in life. Not sure what he had thought about the Asian pride movement. He kind of denied his Asian heritage, even if he appreciated his mother's side of the family as much as his father's.

>> No.18431316

>>18430904
Kino taste

>> No.18431317

>>18431296
>He kind of denied his Asian heritage, even if he appreciated his mother's side of the family as much as his father's

My god the more I am hearing about this guy the more I realize he isn't that far off from myself. Stop. Not asian but I've gone through similar things. That's the thing about this guy, many people even if they're normal in every sense could have ended up like him.

>> No.18431332

>>18431317
we may want to put this guy on a list of some kind

>> No.18431335

>>18431210
kek, I had similar experiences three times. Why are we like this?

>> No.18431352

>>18430853
>"Why do I have to compliment them? Why don't they compliment me?"

damn...

>> No.18431362

>>18431332
That's how it works though. Everyone is human and this guy didn't have any serious mental deficiency, he just channeled hate and anger all the time. Literally any human could go down that path.

>> No.18431405

>>18431362
He definitely did have severe mental deficiencies. There are relatable aspects to him for sure, but if you read the parts of his manifesto in this thread and still think anyone could have ended up like him, there is something severely off with you as well.

>> No.18431408

i don't like making fun of mentally ill people, it's wrong.

>> No.18431418

>>18431216
Im honestly not sure, its definitely not my looks and not something I do consciously. Im not rich nor a social butterfly either, in fact I'm poor and haven't made a single friend throughout college. I guess there must be a subset of women that find me endearingly autistic since I've also noticed that old women are extra nice to me. Maybe it's me being very neotenous? People regularly think im 15, though I cant imagine that being to my benefit with young women.
Whatever it is hasn't stopped me from being a khv at 23.
>>18431335
>Why are we like this?
I wish I knew

>> No.18431426

>>18427461
Schizo projection

>> No.18431431

>>18431316
>bunch of shitty FPS and a RTS (genre for spergs)
>kino

>> No.18431434

>>18427018

>> No.18431448

>>18427018
Fuck this shit was surprisingly long. Took me like 2 days of solid reading. Unironically, like a good standard for a retard. Not as good as an actual author, but not bad as a completely amateur effort.

>> No.18431456

>>18430938
>tfw literally 5'5 and a sperg, yet girls still like me (even though I hate them)
wtf is wrong with incels?

>> No.18431466

>>18430987
He was incredibly melodramatic, if you watch any of of his vlogs you’ll instantly recognize this.

>> No.18431538

>>18431362
He definitely had bipolar. It's mentioned on his wikipage that they tried to put him on drugs and he didn't want them, which I can sympathise with. Interestingly it's not mentioned at all in the manifesto. But aside from the Incel stuff, him driving to Nevada or Arizona or wherever to buy lottery tickets is 1000% manic behaviour lol. That's not something a mentally normal person does.

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>>18427018
h-heh what a freak

>> No.18431571

>>18430148
>You are lying to make him look like a fool, so that no one empathizes with him and follows his steps.
Go kill a bunch of thots and normies and then end yourself. The chance of you hurting anyone that I actually care is near to 0. But before doing it pls document your pathetic life to my amusement.

>> No.18431574

>>18428325
lol guy was a fucken turd turned that way from his turd parents

>> No.18431583

>>18427408
It depends on your background. I suffered from mumbling and stuttering throughout my teens, often got stuck on words and started blushing really hard. I'm still not over it although it's not noticeable these days. When a girl sat next to me on a bus one day and started a conversation, I couldn't stop myself from mumbling and she literally looked at me with fear in her eyes because I knew I wasn't speaking clearly.

>> No.18431593

>>18430901
lol, my sides exploded

>> No.18431611

>>18431538
>But aside from the Incel stuff, him driving to Nevada or Arizona or wherever to buy lottery tickets is 1000% manic behaviour lol. That's not something a mentally normal person does.
How did he even expect to win?

>> No.18431612

>>18431431
Nah Halo and early Cods are peak zoomerkino

>> No.18431630

>>18430654
Elliott's problem is that he seduced himself into playing a role and lacked the self-awareness necessary to realise his situation. His book is similar in its bizarreness to A Confederacy of Dunces, whose narrator seems like such a true articulation of a real person's thoughts and perspective that it makes the book absolutely hilarious (unlike a seasoned novelist who adopts a character's perspective for the sake of one book). It's interesting in that John Kennedy Toole while writing the novel said he felt himself becoming more and more like Ignatius, and found himself thinking and acting the way Ignatius would, which suggests either that the character really was a kind of archetype or whatever or that Toole's own unconscious somehow used Ignatius as a means of expression.

Bret Easton Ellis just before Elliott's death said he was writing a book (iirc) about a character who was a modern kind of Less Than Zero character living in California in modern day. I don't think he ever published that novel, but realistically I don't think he could have topped ER's novel. It takes an intense degree of investment in a certain perspective, and a total lack of external guidance and self-awareness to produce this kind of work. To find yourself in such a deep psychological whole, immersed in self-pity and self-loathing, is really a tragic and frightening situation. There was just no getting through to someone like Elliott.

>> No.18431633

>>18431612
no they aren't shut the fuck up

>> No.18431635

>>18430901
This cannot be real I'm dying

>> No.18431636

>>18431611
>Go to >>>/x/
>Ctrl+F
>Law of attraction

>> No.18431645

>>18431633
You haven't grow up in a working class family in the early 2000s... you can't understand.

>> No.18431646

>>18428831

Thanks. I guess I'm more of a sperg than incel.

>>18428932

Lost it at weaponized satellites

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>>18431645
oh shit i forgot this was /lit/ lol

>> No.18431676

>>18431611
He was just delusional. Not in an insulting way, he was literally having delusions. Anyone who has had a manic episode knows what its like.

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Guys you should read his journal, its the most unintentionally funny thing possibly ever written. He plans how he is not going to waste his last teenage year (aged 19) and that he is going to do something to improve his lot, and yet after his birthday we don't hear from him again till after 6 months, when he admits that he wasted the last six months playing WoW, but that he has now quitted for good and is now going to improve his life THROUGH READING THE SECRET. It seriously reads like an anime prequel, if his manifesto was the main anime.

You will also get to see his insecurity at growing older and yet being stuck in time. Not to mention the signature jealousy on seeing literally any girl or couple out in the public. A must read for every person in their late teens or even 20s. If anyone wants both the diaries especially formatted for reading on Kindle, feel free to drop your email down below.

>> No.18431714

>>18431706
>he has now quitted for good

Last. Binge. Ever.

>> No.18431748

What he did was wrong but its touching how we all have a little bit of Elliot Rodger inside us all, our entire generation, did he know he was speaking for us all?

>> No.18431770

>>18431748
I think a lot of young men have always felt like this, especially those who have a higher-than-average IQ but low self-esteem and no sincere masculine guidance.

Just read The Young Hitler I Knew for example. When he was a teenager he also obsessed over a girl, wanted to destroy the world whenever they passed and she didn't look at him, bought lottery tickets thinking that he would win and have the money to earn her affection, etc.

>> No.18431771

>>18427018
nothing wrong about this, retard. the most funny pat imo is when he get btfo by frat chads in a party

>> No.18431781

>>18427408
based. i used to be like that due to thinking of myself as an autist. most retards here have been psyopes into that as well

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>>18427597
I don't know if I would take advice from someone who treats Trump like a father figure...

>> No.18431864

>>18431771
"I saw a beautiful girl on the beach today, she smiled at me, I felt good"
Elliot Rodger: >>18427018

>> No.18431895

>>18431210
>shares her peanuts with me
What a dirty slut

>> No.18431927

>>18427397
He splashed his coffee on a couple, and sprayed orange juice from a super soaker at a group of people at the park

Brush up on your classics

>> No.18431986

>>18431927
>sprayed orange juice from a super soaker at a group of people at the park

this is so fucking retarded you wouldn't believe it if you saw it in a movie - truly a king

>> No.18432077

>>18431986
Truth is stranger than fiction - I’d you read a novel about this character you’d laugh at how unrealistic it is.

>> No.18432243

>>18427275
That's rough buddy.

>> No.18432250

>>18427081
No it isn't

>> No.18432361

>>18428348
>>18432243
He later married a guy.

>> No.18432421

>>18428109
I relate to that bro. The most I've ever had was dating a lot of women and having a good time for a day or two, or a week, with each of them. After that we just never really got to it, we drifted apart. The only sort of relationship I ever had was in hs. That kind of broke the ice for me in that regard luckily, after that I actually started goin on dates and getting experience, but always meeting different people and having that anxiety at some point that you won't get with her anyways is kind of soul crushing.
I probably wouldn't be a virgin anymore if I was more forward, or if I was a bit shallow maybe--but who am I too judge that. I'm pretty good looking and athletic, so before corona I'd even have women hit me up, but I dunno. I'm a pretty shy person and the people that hit me up were all pretty weird when you got to talking with them. I don't really want sex as much as I want love, so yeah. Probably incel blogging here but it's pretty shitty overall. I'd love to just meet someone I love who loves me back, all the benefit of the doubt and all the time necessary given on both sides. The only women you meet who'd give you that benefit are broken in some way because they give that to most guys and got hurt, it's like they expect you to just hurt them, so you can't even be with them.

>> No.18432428

>>18432361
Were you really creepy? Why did he dislike you?

>> No.18432435

>>18432428
I think he used it as a way to take out his anger about his own insecurities desu.

Nice to know he's living a happy married life while I'm.... here. Life blows.

>> No.18432478

>>18427402
>tfw no one ever showed any interest me
and here there are retards like you, just throwing all their chance away

>> No.18432486

>>18432435
Are you sure you weren’t being weird?

>> No.18432496

>>18432486
As he later apologised for actions, I doubt it. I accepted the apology if only to give him a little peace. Still can't deny that the things he, and the others he convinced to join in on, did hasn't had a horrible impact on my view of people.

I'll just stay single. People aren't worth being open with.

>> No.18432546

>>18430242
i just like looking at em. never gets old, and looking is free

>> No.18432570

>>18430820
this has got a dostoyevksy-an quality to it

>> No.18432580

>>18432496
Aw, don’t let a few cunts ruin it all for you. There are many nice people out there.

>> No.18432582

>>18430886
>tried to act like a normal party goer
boy i know that feeling

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>all these anons talking about girls making advances
>I spent HS and college looking angry and being distant due to my insecurity
>no friends, no girls, not even on the internet
What is the antidote?

>> No.18432604

>>18432580
Nah. Most people are pretty base. They'll sell you down the river for immediate gain if they can, even if it's just perceived social prestige. I can't see myself ever being committed to a relationship because I'd be waiting for them to float it all away for whatever petty crap they figured they could get short term.

I'm better off alone, not that I enjoy it, but better off for sure.

>> No.18432614

>>18432604
Are you a teenager? Most people really aren’t like this if they like you.

>> No.18432632

>>18431405
he definitely had narcissistic personality disorder, you can tell by the blinding rage he feels simply seeing other people going about their lives

>> No.18432640

>>18432614
>Are you a teenager? Most people really aren’t like this if they like you.
No, I'm in my late 20s. For a few years after this stuff happened, I kept trying to 'rebuild myself' by making new relationships and friendships. I just kept seeing similar patterns, it kinda didn't seem to matter what I did, so either it's something I do below the level of my awareness, or I'm naturally hate-worthy, or this is how people are.

I figure it doesn't really matter what the reason is, I just don't see my existence as compatible with intimate (as in, open, friendly) relationships.

I had a couple of partners, but honestly it felt like I was just doing a lot of work to save face with them. That wasn't what I thought a relationship should be, so I stopped trying for them.

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>>18432640
hug u

>> No.18432677

>>18432640
Maybe gays are different. I’m sorry bro.

>> No.18432716

>>18432677
It's not just gays. Honestly I find middle aged women the worst - they're hard to get on with no matter what you do. I don't think straight relationships are any more stable than gay ones either; everyone seems to fucking hate their spouse nowadays.

>>18432665
Thanks I guess.

>> No.18432733

>>18432716
Didn’t you say you were gay? Have you tried women too you mean?

>> No.18432737

>>18432733
No, I'm talking about general relationships, friendships etc. - I have one friend, someone I've known for over 20 years, but that's it. Nobody else makes it past being a person pertinent only to the situation. Work colleagues? People in sports? People at the bar? You name it. Acquaintances. They don't get anything more than needed. Seldom tell the same people the same thing so I know where shit has come from if need-be.

>> No.18432758

>>18432737
If you’re gay and have one friend total I don’t think you have a very good insight in how modern straight relationships are though. In my experience it’s much better than you paint it.

>> No.18432775

>>18432758
Really? Seems like a miserable ordeal. Lots of cheating. Spouses gossip about each other to other people. Seems like a lot of work to inevitably be disappointed.

>> No.18432906

>>18427275
Fuck off sodomite

>> No.18432964

>>18432906
>Fuck off sodomite
The irony is, people like you drive gays into extremist behaviour like pride parades and tribal banding. Puts me in a precarious position. I can either have unchallenged acceptance based on one thing only, and know I can have that revoked at any time by change of opinion, or I can try to integrate with 'normal people' that aren't part of that cult, but have formed their own cult of hating me for something as simple as existing.

You think I want to be around the pride fags? Because I don't. But natures such as yours make me choose between being alone or going to a cult. It's just not a surprise so many people subscribe to it when those two options are presented.

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>>18431706
>feel free to drop your email down below.
My GOD, FBI!

>> No.18433148

>>18432775
Where are you getting this information from?

>> No.18433167

>>18427275
goddamn
Keep on keeping on, man. Hope you can find a way to move on

>> No.18433207

>>18432588
exposure/get a job

>> No.18433219

>>18433148
Everywhere I look. I don't see relationships that make me want one. I feel like I want some magical fairy tale, but something that shouldn't feel like a fairy tale at all.

>>18433167
>Hope you can find a way to move on
I don't. I've tried moving on lots of times, and it has only been a repeat of the trauma, an imminent betrayal and discarding. 'Moving on' has become a trap for myself.

>> No.18433235

>>18433219
>Everywhere I look.
Since you don’t have any friends I take it you mean the internet mostly. Don’t do that.

>> No.18433242

>>18433235
>Since you don’t have any friends I take it you mean the internet mostly. Don’t do that.
You'd be wrong. I work in a very social environment. As someone that never lets other people into their life, I'm chameleonic; I listen to them chit-chat about crap, I even participate with cursory questions and prompts. People non-stop backstab each other. It's kind of gross. You'd think people would grow out of it... but they largely don't.

>> No.18433298

>>18427018
Probably one of the biggest bitches I've ever heard of. All he needed to do was grow a pair and start asking chicks out and remain in his "zone".

>> No.18433398

>>18433298
Not even that. He could had hired a hooker with the money his parents showered him it.
Yes, I'm shure that its a shitty way to lose virginity, but if he done it he would see that sex it's not this heavenly otherworldly thing and maybe after some encounters he would become more confident and started to actually talk to chicks.

>> No.18433476

>>18433242
You really don't have it as bad as you seem to think. I'm a fatso and I was bullied during my teens just like you. At one point I had 30+ people surround me in a circle and take out their switchblades and prodded me just for fun and kept saying they were going to kill me. No cuts were deep but I bled like I stuck pig that day.

Unlike you I have 0 friends though eve now at 30. The thing about people backstabbing each other is 100% true. We live in a depressed society with no true tribalism. Loyalty and honor aren't things held to high esteem in our world, just ruthless competition, so people become stepping stones and not human beings.

Why do you think so many gays go hard into the LGBT crowd? It's the closest thing to an actual tribe for them. Same way a lot of ostracized white dissidents join alt-right extremist groups. You find comfort in other outcasts.

>> No.18433501

>>18433398
Dude wanted 10s when he was beta as fuck, bro needed to also be realistic

>> No.18433504

>>18433476
Sorry you experienced that anon. I don't intend to turn this into a pity pissing contest, but I have stories not so terribly different. My similar experience to yours happened when I was 10.

And what does it matter if it's not as bad as I think? I live to work. Without my work, I have no meaning, and that's the only tether I have to this world, because nobody will really miss me. That one friend I have, I think it would take some months before they even knew. It's not about having it good or bad, it's about having no hope of meaningful relationships. That isn't necessitated by a countable set of experiences; if you still have hope and belief in having those kinds of relationships, I think you are richer than I.

>> No.18433512

>>18433476
>At one point I had 30+ people surround me in a circle and take out their switchblades and prodded me just for fun and kept saying they were going to kill me.
Nigger where do you live, Somalia?

>> No.18433537

>>18433512
Canada, actually. You'd be surprised how cruel whites can be to other whites. These were the suburban skater-type whites, too.

Interestingly enough, most non-whites have been nice to me.

>> No.18433543

I don't understand incels. I'm not handsome but I have gotten girls to sleep with me by simply talking about things i like - literature, art, music. The girls I sleep with aren't exactly 10s but I don't mind, I don't look at people as numbers. Literally just talk, smile and say something funny once in a while. Even if she has a bf, just continue being friends. Having female friends boosts your self esteem. Now, just don't go around making friends with the ghetto crowd. I stick to people i feel comfortable around and sex is pretty easy to come by.

>> No.18433879

>>18433543
You sleep with women even if they have a bf?

>> No.18433895

>>18432588
Unironically being nice to people and not being distant. They may not fuck you, but if you are pleasant company they might pair you up with a friend. Once you have a gf it's a lot easier to attract female attention. The most valuable wingman is actually a wingwoman.

>> No.18433917

>>18433879
I have, once or twice. Just talk about stuff you like anon. More girls care about intelligence than you imagine. Talk about philosophy, connect ideas, offer a critique of Nietzsche, read those fancy philosophy of science and theory of everything books, dress casual and never, ever intrude. She will open up and talk about something she likes. You want to give her the attention without ever making it seem like you are trying to become the center of attention or a know it all. This is how you impress girls one on one but this is not how to make friends. I don't really know how to make friends because the only "friend" I have is my fwb.

>> No.18433941

>>18433917
Wait, stop the cringe psycho act. Why did you knowingly have sex with women who had bfs?

>> No.18433951

>>18433917
That’s awful anon.

>> No.18433966

>>18427408
I mean, I couldn't really go and approach a totally unknown female, but ever since I got out my comfort zone I realized I am kind of funny and engaging, so I might have some hope going for me right?

>> No.18434182

>>18427412
i still remember the girl with funny hair when i was a teen. she was the cutest girl i ever saw

>> No.18434273

>>18432421

Sorry to hear that Anon. I honestly think that sometimes it just can't be helped I guess. I gave up thinking about all the time because it's all pointless and tiring. Since pandemic hit I literally barely even got out of my house, but I'm going to hit the gym soon and do something for myself. I've already started reading since the pandemic so I'm just going to improve myself more and more without the goal of getting women.

I feel like some women require work, like a lot of "therapy"-type talking with them or to point out to them what's toxic for a relationship, because a lot of them bring baggage from the past and apply the "lessons" in new relationships with dudes that didn't even do anything wrong to them.

I have a friend that got out of a relationship of a few years and he also doesn't find a suitable girlfriend, a lot of the women nowadays lack values or integrity, I don't know, don't want to project anything on them and look like a woman-hater, it's just the vibe they give me from the interactions is that they wouldn't put as much heart into a relationship as I'd want them to.

>>18432478

Well... a lot of insecurities lead to that. It's even harder knowing you could have had it, yet missed it.

>> No.18435657

>>18430232
>Although I am not sure if that was sarcasm and means the opposite.
I was completely sincere. I'm sick of people who can't honestly engage with ideas. People have to make everything some kkind of pathology or projection or some bullshit.

>> No.18435684

>>18433941
>>18433951
Not only does he not care, obviously, but this is pretty common. Sorry to rain on youse guys parade but people do shit like this. Not saying it's right, it's just the way it is.

>> No.18435779

Reading all those excerpts from his autobiography makes me feel a ton of sympathy for him. I know what it's like to be lonely and unwanted, and how it is to feel inferior. It really does suck and it is often unfair. Somehow someway normal people come to occupy this position in society. Purely by bad luck. And to see life pass you by in misery while others have fun and enjoy themselves causes such a horrible feeling of pain and loss. And there's no way out. I'm not even ugly or malformed. I'm good looking. But now that i'm in this social role, per luck of the draw, I can never reenter.

>> No.18435791

>>18431706
Wow he's literally me

>> No.18435881

>>18431706
Just post it here.

>> No.18436606

>>18427018
The part where he got so mad from seeing some teenagers playing in a park that he raced over to a store to buy a super soaker and orange juice then drove back and screamed at them while he sprayed them with OJ.

>> No.18436631

>>18435779
yeah thats basically me too. These people that hate on incels are assholes, many of them are normal albeit slightly awkward, likely because they had a string of bad luck in their social life they fell behind.

>> No.18436932

>>18430989
This is old pasta.

>> No.18437539

> One of the girls did a handstand in the grass, and her sexy bare stomach showed as her shirt hung down. All of the girls were scantily clad. Rage boiled inside me as I watched those people who thought they were better than me enjoying their pleasurable little lives together. The rage was so intense that I couldn’t take it. I was insulted too much. I couldn’t leave them without getting some form of revenge, so I drove to the nearby K-mart, bought a super-soaker, filled it up with orange juice that I bought at the same store, and drove back to the park. They were still there, having the time of their lives, and I wanted to ruin it for them. I wanted to ruin their fun just like they ruined mine, as they would never accept me among them. I screamed at them
with rage as I sprayed them with my super soaker. When the boys started to yell and chase after me, I quickly got into my car and drove away. I was giddy with ecstatic, hate-fueled excitement. I wished I could spray boiling oil at the foul beasts. They deserved to die horrible, painful deaths just for the crime of enjoying a better life than me.

>> No.18437714

>>18427018
What did I read?

>> No.18437733

>>18437539
If he had just sprayed them a little bit with a small water gun and some water, they might have even found it cute.

>> No.18437748

>>18431706
>He plans how he is not going to waste his last teenage year (aged 19) and that he is going to do something to improve his lot, and yet after his birthday we don't hear from him again till after 6 months, when he admits that he wasted the last six months playing WoW
Jesus he sounds so much like me. Only for me my lack of success created confusion and self directed anger his created delusion and externally directed anger

>> No.18437761

>>18431013
>hapa mutt
I fucking hate western conception of race. You are the result of both heritage, hold yourself with some fucking respect.

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>transferring to uni this fall
>was between uc santa barbara, uc davis, or uc san diego
I'm not going to lie and say I didn't deny ucsb because of elliot's description of it. Sounded like hell for a quiet non partying non chad

>> No.18437769

>>18427275
When are you transitioning?

>> No.18437773

>>18437769
Literally never. I don't like trannies. I think they're a symbol of everything wrong with 'gay culture', the overly hedonistic, misanthropic counter-culture. I just wanted a quiet life with a boyfriend.

>> No.18437879

>>18437773
Homosexuality is purely hedonistic. Two men cannot procreate, afterall.

>> No.18437885

>>18437879

A typical homosexual has dozens of partners. Many have hundrerds...

>> No.18437910

>>18427275
Don't kys smiles will make you happy again eventually. I just hope you were being respectful and not trying to flirt with a straight guy or something.

>> No.18437913

>>18437879
Do you ever think my slight hedonism might be used to prop up my spirit to do things for higher purposes? And there are definitely scales of hedonism; wanting a quiet life with someone you love to drive your spirit is different to making parades of deliberately uglied hyper-homosexuals waving dildos around for a sense of pride.

I try to do good in this world. I would like a fulfilled life. I do not want to dance around like a demented faggot.

>> No.18437918

>>18437910
I wasn't flirting with him. I just liked seeing him smile. And as said, he later ended up marrying a man anyway - why I think his actions were him projecting his insecurities and self-hatred onto me.

>> No.18437933

>>18437913
Hedonism, by definition, is solely the pursuit of pleasure. Your quiet homosexuality is equivalent to a homosexual parade in that they are both hedonistic.

>> No.18437943

>>18437933
And you wonder why people are driven to behave like such fucking lunatics...

>> No.18437948

>>18430830
Of all of them this one describes the incel mentality best.

>> No.18438032

>>18427275
Wanna meet up on the top of a tall building so we can discuss the finer details of your fetish?

>> No.18438039
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>>18427018
The key is realizing how easily women manipulate men.
Then look into their behavior, particularily, their strict adherence to platitude, which they will defend to death. Consider the effects of which as they are put into leadership positions. Is it by chance that every society that adopted feminist doctrine has started to decline? Has every successful culture been patriarchal by mere coincidence?

Our poor decisions are beginning to catch up on us. Convert or perish. Allahu akbar.

>> No.18438045

>>18438032
I'd be delighted to - please give me the gentle push I need to solve it. I've been unable to kill myself, and have ultimately dedicated my life to societal slavery. I do what good I can in a hopes of stopping someone going through the same thing I did. Maybe the demented pride queers do the same, but I do mine through more traditional means.

>> No.18438067

>>18435684
>Not saying it's right, it's just the way it is.
So what is your point?

>> No.18438100

>>18437913
You are alright anon. Don't listen to homophobes and never change. I hope you find a man to your liking and are able to settle down and have a good life.

>> No.18438138

>>18427275
Be completely honest here anon. You were diddled by uncle/priest as a kid right?

>> No.18438150

>>18427275
If you're still young, hold on (and dont listen to those who tell you to kys).
Finding gay lovers and partners is much easier when you're in your 20s (unless you live in fucked up places like Siberia - in thst case move asap to a more tolerant city)

>> No.18438160

>>18437761
I mean I am european so I know my heritage for 10 generations back. If you are talking about elliot he was part of a species increasingly common in this world, a cosmopolitan rootless mutt who doesnt have any heritage or sense of belonging. Hapas like him are neither asian nor white, they simply have nothing to relate too, similar to afroamerican mutts, except even those have their ghetto culture and tribal gangs. He didnt even have that

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>>18436631

>> No.18438182

>>18438100
Thanks bro, but it isn't going to happen.

>>18438138
No, I wasn't diddled by an uncle or priest.

>>18438150
I'm in my late 20s now. It's not going to happen. It's not that I'm so utterly ugly, or so personally repugnant, that I can't practically find a partner. It's that I'm completely emotionally unsuited to it - all I've seen come of relationships is, unhappiness, dismay. After a period of time where all of my friends and family turned their back on me, I tried to rebuild my life again, but I got sick. I got really sick, and what strained relationship I had with family was strained further when I lived the resentment of a dying man as in The Death of Ivan Ilyich.

I got better physically. It took them years to figure out the problems. But I never recovered spiritually or emotionally. I learned that people abandon you when you become less than convenient, and will do so when it is opportune for them. What's the point of letting someone in if it's completely transactional? I function - I'm not one of those "I can't go outside because I have anxiety people". I work in a social field, I teach, but I don't let people into my personal life whatsoever.

>> No.18438190

>>18438182
>No, I wasn't diddled by an uncle or priest.
Its very likely you were either too young or surpressed the traumatic memories. I know a homosexual who told me he wasnt abused but later priest in his parish was convicted for pedophilia

>> No.18438200

>>18438190
I was never a regular church-goer.

>> No.18438253

I remember being captivated by reading his delusions but overall more a read to learn about incels than entertainment

>> No.18438272

his youtube was unironic kino

>> No.18439095

>>18438272
He was very obviously acting in a way he thought would make him seem intellectual and intimidating.

>> No.18439263

>>18437943
Homosexuality is deviant behaviour. Simple as.

>> No.18439270

>>18439263
Ok Akbir.

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>>18427275
Gross

>> No.18439328

>>18439301
>1000 sexual partners
lmao ok

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>>18427275
I dont get gays at all. Would you genuinely enjoy having another man's penis in your ass?

>> No.18439386

>>18439352
This isn't very /lit/ but whatever. Other than having lots of nerve endings in your butt and prostate, there's a psychological element of 'belonging' to someone, the psychology of having another person inside you, making them happy/pleasuring them, and a feeling of safety with them.

>> No.18439404

>>18427275
It's never too late to kill yourself, faggot.

>> No.18439413

>>18439404
Would if I could, lazy posting pol faggot.

>> No.18439419

>>18438039
Possibly the most autistic post i've ever read, consider killing yourself.

>> No.18439442

>>18432588
>>18427402
>>18427797

Everyone struggling with women needs to improve their emotional side. As men we typically are never taught how to operate with emotions and feelings but this is the language of women. The most common thing is to hate the feeling of being raw or vulnerable with a woman so you push her away or sabotage your chances subconsciously. You need to make the decision to embrace feeling, even if it’s painful, and then you will be able to connect with a woman (which will ultimately be way more rewarding than being a narcissist with no feelings that puts on an act to get women yet is too afraid to get hurt so he pays with an emotionless relationship)

>> No.18439474

>in elementary school
>have crush on girl
>one day after running the mile she walks up to me and asks me what time I got
>I tell her and walk away
>afterward I wondered if it was a hallucination or not

>on the school bus in elementary school
>half asleep
>overhear two girls talking about me
>"if anon would just wash his hair and wear different clothes each day he would be so cute"
>the other one says "I want to bathe him" and they both giggle
>I pretend to be asleep

>in middle school
>girl asks me to hang out with her after school
>get nervous and say no
>never speak to her again

>in middle school
>girl says "ur cute, anon"
>I say "thanks, that means so much coming from you" in a sarcastic tone
>she runs off and I wonder for a long time what I had said wrong

>in high school
>girl keeps staring at me and mirroring my mannerisms
>I decide to play a prank on her by doing really weird ones like holding my hand to my forehead for a few minutes straight
>she does it and glances over at me a lot
>I ignore her

>in high school
>girl has obvious crush on me, posts on her Facebook how she is "completely infatuated" with someone
>one day walks up to me and says "anon, I love you" plainly
>I say "oh, thanks"
>some kid who was near me started laughing loudly so she walked away

>still in high school
>another girl stood really close to me
>looking up at me with big doe eyes
>kept saying "anon, anon, anon, anon..."
>I waited for her to stop then walked away

>In college
>taking a test
>girl I have a crush on finishes test early and leaves
>I finish 30 minutes later and also leave
>I see her sitting on a bench In the hall outside the classroom
>I walk down the hall and she immediately gets up and follows me
>she walks side by side with me, continually glancing up at me
>I ignore her and go to the library
>didn't see her much after that and I still regret not talking to her
>still think about her two years later

>at first job
>girl leaves a note in my locker with her snapchat info
>I ignore it because I don't have social media
>one day she gets up from her workstation to walk across the building to ask me why i didn't contact her
>tell her I don't have snapchat
>she says "please download it"
>I tell her I will then quit the job a few days later

I am a khhv to this day

>> No.18439482

>>18427059
>>18427632
Dudes just get a gf it's the same thing but instead of constructing a false and creepy narrative in your head you actually get to have a connection with someone

>> No.18439484

>>18439474
>girl says "ur cute, anon"
>I say "thanks, that means so much coming from you" in a sarcastic tone
Holy fucking based

>> No.18439497

>>18439442
Comically bad advice

>> No.18439505

>>18439442
You're an idiot. Showing others emotions is akin to chimps smiling - it shows weakness, and you will be instantly attacked for it.

>> No.18439518

>>18427275
Ignore these fucking pricks anon. They're just acting edgy on the internet. Sorry that guy was such a pos, maybe he was low-key gay and didn't know how to handle it. I've known a few guys like that

>> No.18439534

>>18439518
>maybe he was low-key gay and didn't know how to handle it. I've known a few guys like that
He was. He's married to a man now. I've said a couple of times. Sometimes I look at his life, filled with love, travel, career, and success, and I look at the damage he did to mine. I forgave him when he apologised because I was very ill, and thought it was better to give him closure and absolution so he could live happily... I think I did that out of the remnants of what affection I'd had for him. But nowadays I look at the differences between our lives and have to ask myself, 'why am I, when I have so little value?'.

Every time I've tried to KMS I've been stopped by mysterious circumstances. After so many times, it seems rather like I'm not 'allowed', and I've grown confident that if I succeeded in trying, I would inevitably survive and be all the worse for it. I keep hoping life will be merciful and let me die sooner rather than later.

I am a husk. I hate everyone and everything, and just do whatever I can to better society, so that nobody experiences the same as me.

>> No.18439547

>>18437913
Yeah you're ok, anon. If most gays had your perspective and weren't supportive of publicizing and normalizing homosexuality, it wouldn't be a problem.

>> No.18439558

>>18439497
>>18439505
you guys reject this advice because you were punished (during childhood probably) for showing emotions. do you really think women are the ones concerned with ‘showing weakness’? being afraid of weakness is an insecure masculine thing. it’s going to fuck up your relationships or only attract damaged women but do whatever you want.

>> No.18439567

>>18439558
Women are repulsed by male emotional weakness

>> No.18439574

>>18439558
This: >>18439567
But further, women are often pampered and spoiled in growing up, and often like to take vicious pot shots at people because they feel entitled to do so.

>> No.18439621

>>18439567
Showing emotions is not emotional weakness. Being afraid to express your feelings is emotional weakness. If you already can express yourself fully then good for you, men who suck with women are AFRAID of it. Read all the posts here. They are so terrified of being rejected, especially from a girl who is interested, that they freeze up. And if your emotions are so out of control that you have to act masculine and pretend they aren’t there, then you have a much bigger problem on your hands that is affecting more than your dating life. You’re probably a European, aka a shell of a man if you’re so worried about what women think and appearing strong. Pussy!

>> No.18439635

>>18439621
you retards are the guys who spend everyday at the gym then wonder why your crush went out with a skinny art fag and then soothe your ego by telling yourself women are all dumb whores

>> No.18439712

>>18439621
Woman.

>> No.18439745

>>18439534
>He was
Yeah I can recognise that behaviour a mile off and I'm a straight man, I've just had a lot of gay friends growing up. And I know the position you're in. The word you're looking for is bitter. You're bitter, but you don't have to be. You need to spend sometime on yourself, readjusting perspectives and sorting things out. Idk man, I don't know you but things can and often do get better.

>> No.18439810

>>18439745
>The word you're looking for is bitter. You're bitter, but you don't have to be. You need to spend sometime on yourself, readjusting perspectives and sorting things out.
I tried to do so plenty of times, but it always blew up on me, so I guess I just settled on existing as a tool. It used to bug me a lot, but I think I became ok with nobody really wanting me around. I serve functions, people often dislike me for doing that function, and then I leave. That's my life.

>> No.18439863

>>18427018
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"

Society should expect to see a lot more of this. I'am honestly surprised other countries aren't seeing this type of lashing out more. America being capitalism central, would make you think it get people like this under control easier with the amount of completely wasteful, time absorbing activities.

>> No.18439873

>>18439482
>just get a gf
Lol

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>thread gets derailed by a faggot blogposting

>> No.18439923

>>18439810
Keep reading anon. In the meantime I'll say a prayer for you

>> No.18439939

>>18439923
Thanks anon.

>>18439919
I experienced the same sort of rejection Elliot went through, but didn't blow up and destroy as much as possible. I probably wanted to at times, and I'm curious as to why I didn't; if relating anecdotes similar to the topic of the thread is 'derailing' it, then perhaps every thread ought to be locked. Why discuss at all? I mean, discussing with you seems fruitless, you're just a phone posting anime faggot.

>> No.18439983

>>18430897
How does one become this deluded. It reads like a poorly written tragicomedy.

>> No.18440051

>>18439442
Unironically good advice. Understanding yourself is the key to change and to understanding others. Comapssion is the way to go.

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>>18439939
Elliot wasn't a faggot and a central part of his social alienation was his involuntary virginity. You have literally been blogposting about your sexual encounters with both women and men and seeking sympathy from anons for very triffle personal emotional problems.

Outside of the fact you are both narcissists with little self awareness, nearly all your posts have been completely off topic.

>> No.18440115

>>18440099
>You have literally been blogposting about your sexual encounters with both women and men and seeking sympathy from anons for very triffle personal emotional problems.
No I haven't, which shows you've just wandered into the thread to complain. Any other stupid statements you'd like to make?

>> No.18440120

>>18440099
calm your mumu

>> No.18440415

>>18427320
Moron

>> No.18440418

Test

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>>18430901
>Nazi anime
based

>> No.18440721

>>18433941
I Had sex with a girl who had a boyfriend.

I had talked to her on tinder like a year earlier and this fizzled out. I still had her number and I think I texted her while drunk and we got to talking. She would complain about her boyfriend and she was very clearly about to quit that relationship. We met up and fucked, and I came on her stomach. Later that night I dropped her off a block from her boyfriends place and as she left she said “I hope I don’t smell like boy”

Next time we met up she had broken up with her boyfriend, and we laughed together as she showed me the cringe text messages and crying voice mail she left her

I did it because I had been in that guys shoes before and so the cycle of cuckoldry has been renewed

>> No.18441128

>>18431706
>lmao this dudes mental anguish is so funny xd
This man had serious mental problems and it led to nothing but suffering for both himself and the people around him
I dont think any of this is funny, reading these is profoundly sad

>> No.18441135

>>18439442
>Everyone struggling with women needs to improve their emotional side. As men we typically are never taught how to operate with emotions and feelings but this is the language of women. The most common thing is to hate the feeling of being raw or vulnerable with a woman so you push her away or sabotage your chances subconsciously. You need to make the decision to embrace feeling, even if it’s painful, and then you will be able to connect with a woman (which will ultimately be way more rewarding than being a narcissist with no feelings that puts on an act to get women yet is too afraid to get hurt so he pays with an emotionless relationship)

sounds gay

>> No.18441161

>>18430950
his handwriting looks left handed and female, rounded individual letters with accentuated dots over "i".

>> No.18441168

>>18430950
Interesting dysgraphia in heightened emotional state.

>> No.18441195

>>18440721
based

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>>18441195
Thanks

>> No.18442117 [DELETED] 

new server for new frens
https://discord.gg/S6z2hzE9
im still working on it >.<

>> No.18442186

>>18430922
Damn I have fantasized about that too

>> No.18442726

>>18430853
>"Why do I have to compliment them? Why don't they compliment me?"
Elliot's main problem was that he was an idealist. He was unwilling to compromise on how he thought the world should be. Most people decide on their goal, and then take action to achieve it, accepting the cruel state of the world and working around it, however unfair it may be. But in Elliot's case, his desire never progressed into a goal, it simply remained a desire, and eventually turned into a demand. He refused to accept the reality of the world.
You see this same phenomenon with fatties who simply demand to be attractive. It may be unfair that no one likes fatties, it may be hard for them to lose weight, but some reject this reality and simply demand that fat be considered attractive; they refuse to try to become thin at all.
I'm not sure what this phenomenon is called, but it never ends well.

>> No.18442766

>>18432906
>>>/pol/

>> No.18442854

>>18439474
>first day of college linear algebra class
>incredibly hot 9.5/10 model tier girl sits in the seat right next to me even though there were plenty of open seats to leave gaps
>starts small talk with me
>feel like she is somehow making fun of me or is trying to use me for homework help or something
>be deadpan and cold so she stops talking to me
>next class she sits next to me again and I do the same thing
>never sat next to me again
>realize through the rest of the year that she is very cool and smart and kind

Not a khv though I have lots of sex just not back then

>> No.18442861

>>18427275
sounds like some pretty based lads

>> No.18442919

>>18439567
>>18439621
Women like it when men are vulnerable with them, but this is NOT the same as showing them emotional weakness. You must be vulnerable by showing them your emotional strength.
For example, if your gf is making you feel jealous, being vulnerable is telling her that. But you can do it in a weak way or in a strong way.
The weak way would be saying sadly or angrily, "I really wish you would stop doing that, it makes me feel jealous and bad." You are not in control of your emotions and you've let it fester. A girl's pussy will dry out if she hears something like this.
The strong way is more like, calmy, "When you do that, it makes me feel jealousy. I'd like it if you wouldn't do that anymore." In this example you are still being vulnerable, but you're fully in control of yourself. You are revealing your emotions, you are making your expectations known, but you are not weak.
This is the crucial distinction, one which often gets lost when some say "be vulnerable" and others say "never show weakness". Both are good advice.

>> No.18442923

>>18440721
cringe

>> No.18442931

>>18430869
>her luscious blonde hair
from a white person this is just a normal description. from non-whites it's extreme, creepy fetishism 99% of the time.

>> No.18443006

>>18430148
It is hilarious and you should read it. Everything from the drink throwing, the failure to skateboard, the listening to his sister bang her bf, is comedic gold. The end section is probably one of the most bathetic things ever. He did it unintentionally, but you would be hard pressed to find a better contemporary satire. if intentions mattered Kafka would not be sold at all.
tl;Dr the author is dead and hilarious

>> No.18443011

>>18439474
based chad retard

>> No.18443164

>>18427018
I am afraid of having sex with someone I'm not deeply connected to. This has ruined many of my relationships, because they demanded sex and I said no. Two exes have molested me in the past. I haven't tried actually dating since freshman year college.
I'm scared.

>> No.18443353

>>18441161
That's what I thought as well all from the beginning. His letters are very round and full, like those of a woman.

>>18441168
He wrote that right after he had killed his roommates and their friend, and after he had drank the last triple vanilla latte of his life, before leaving for the town for the last time in his life as well.

Sorry Elliot, can't chat much today. My arthritis is acting bad for all the drawing and I should still draw some more.

>> No.18443380

>>18441128
You're right about that. Nothing funny about it. But there are lots of people who want to invalidate everything he says, and also want to invalidate him as a person, by laughing at him, to prevent anyone from following him and his kind.

>> No.18443479

>>18431571
Why in the hell should I do that? Are you a complete idiot? Concluding from my post that I want to kill some thots or normies. Just because I criticized you for presenting a lie to prevent anyone from following his steps. People are ridiculous.

>>18443006
I have read it for several time. Just reading his handwritten journals.

>>18435657
Yes, that is a very common phenomenon, that if you present a point of view, an observation or a fact that is somehow in the way of something that someone wants to gain, their cause, then you will be invalidated by those people labelling you with some pathology or "ism" or some erroneous psychological assessments such as that you are projecting, being insecure, feeling bad about yourself or whatever, something that's complete bullshit. For example, if you dare to say that children should not be given hormonal treatment, you will be labelled as a "transphobe", or if you note that an unborn child during the late term pregnancy is not just a part of the mother's body but a body of its own and should have some kind of rights, you will be labelled as a "pro-lifer" or even a misogynist. All of these accusations are completely absurd, even nonsensical, just like so many others. It's almost like people had lost their ability or will or patience to think, having their brains taking all kinds of shortcuts instead of taking the longer rout.

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>>18442726
>You see this same phenomenon with fatties who simply demand to be attractive.
Or men who simply demand to be women. Tee-hee... Sorry, could not resist.

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>>18443479
>I have read it for several time. Just reading his handwritten journals
>ESL
Maybe this is why you didn't understand that it's funny

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>>18444091
>>ESL
What are you referring to?

>Maybe this is why you didn't understand that it's funny
Yet another lie to invalidate other person's comment. To insinuate I did not understand it is funny because I have English as a second language. Everyone with half of a brain can say that people who say that it is funny to the point they claim it to be, even ridiculous, are trying to invalidate him as a person to prevent people from following his steps.

Also something I just noticed: Note how I point out in my comment >>18430148 that it is a good goal to try and prevent anyone from following a mass murderer's steps, yet >>18431571 suspects that I want to go and kill a bunch of thots and normies. How is this possible?

Nyah, whatever. If you want to have your misconception of it being ridiculous or unintentional comedy only, you can keep it. It is not really that tragic if someone lies about his manifesto being so and so. What is tragic, and also criminal, is the way people lie that incels/sexually failed people are all bad, bad people, horrible nazi-racist-misogynists who should be sent to camps, just to destroy the incel movement. This type of criminal behavior against one group of people cause them horrible suffering, as such behavior prevents society from helping those people. And when those people are not helped, for example through accepting them socially, but instead are being judged, condemned and ridiculed, it causes whole bunch more of mass murders too.