How do I approach this book?

[Anonymous No.18424269]

I'm not much of reader, I would even say that I'm a bad reader. This was recommended to me by my anti-vax friend. While I do agree with him on the problems of Big Pharma and their rush to create vaccines for profit during pandemic, I still do believe that vaccination was an important discovery l, and a necessity for humankind. I've a feeling I'll only use this book to confirm my own believes and prejudices, just like my friend. So how should I approach it?

[Anonymous No.18424287]

Thank you, Mods.

[Anonymous No.18424294]

>>18424269
I seriously doubt that a fictional book could change your stance on vaccination. The question of whether it is an important discovery, or even a necessity for humankind seems more suited for a scientific debate rather than a philosophical one.

[Anonymous No.18424305]

>>18424294
Nah, I meant everyday "politics". I'm worried to use the book to justify it.

[Anonymous No.18424317]

>>18424294
>Seems more a scientific debate funded by the pharmaceutical industry rather than a philosophical one
FTFY

[Anonymous No.18424369]

Reminder that in BNW and 1984, the vast majority of people living in those societies were fine with what was going on.

[Anonymous No.18424385]

>>18424369
BNW sounds pretty nice if you get to chill on the islands desu

[Anonymous No.18424387]

>>18424269
if you compare bnw to getting vaccinated you're a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.18424390]

>>18424369
>children indoctrinated from birth and monitored closely their entire lives rarely question the system.
Shocking

[Anonymous No.18424407]

>>18424269
Its just fiction. Just read it and enjoy it. If you find an underlying message cool, if not whatever.

[Anonymous No.18424408]

>>18424385
If you're a dissident then you definitely get 1984. When do I get to go live on a comfy island with the rest of the redpilled people?

[Anonymous No.18424430]

>>18424269
If your friend thinks this will change your mind on vaccination he's either never read it himself or is incredibly fucking stupid.

Read it anyway, it's an easy classic.

[Anonymous No.18424438]

>>18424408
If the apocalypse doesn’t happen, there will come a time when the powers that be decide its easier to send dissidents to some remote colony rather than try to re-educate or punish them. But probably not for another century or so.

[Anonymous No.18424559]

>>18424407
The final redpill

[Anonymous No.18424569]

>>18424269
Approaching it with a closed mind is even better, its what I did and was pleasantly surprised by how ambiguous the ending was. Most of the fun isn't actually reading the book but I enjoyed discussing who was in the right at the end with friends.

[Anonymous No.18424730]

>>18424269
>their rush to create vaccines
>rush
You really should be careful with using adjectives. It dupes you into having a judgment of something you probably have not considered.

Rush, as it commonly understood, can imply that it was done at a speed that could be considered careless or without much thought. You should question yourself if you are sufficiently qualified to make such a judgement call of would would be a 'acceptable' speed of development.

[Anonymous No.18424739]

>>18424730
>would would be a
*what would be an

[Anonymous No.18424855]

>>18424730
I've heard the argument that because they pretty much had unlimited funding they were able to do the work much more quickly. Fair enough. But it seems obvious to me that there's no way they can simulate the potential long term side effects of the Covid vaccine when it's taken a year to develop and people have only recently started to receive it. For me personally, I'll take my chances with the disease that has a 0% chance of killing me and that I've already had anyway.
I don't care if there is a minute chance that I might catch Covid again and coof (when I otherwise wouldn't have developed symptoms) on somebody who's vulnerable and who's vaccine wasn't effective on them. That's asking too much of me.
I'm not stopping anybody else getting it though,

[Anonymous No.18424920]

>>18424730
Do you not think the FDA's emergency approval is evidence enough that the vaccination was developed hastily relative to most vaccinations? I agree that its tough to know anything for sure, but this entire pandemic has been dominated by misinformation from both sides and id rather not act when clearly my personal best interests are not aligned with any of the given powers.

[Anonymous No.18425055]

>>18424855
>But it seems obvious to me that there's no way they can simulate the potential long term side effects of the Covid vaccine when it's taken a year to develop and people have only recently started to receive it
Does it seem obvious? Or is it the same problem noted above where 'common sense' is being used to supplement what are highly specialized expertise?

We, as laymen, do not have the expertise to know how long a vaccine for a new strain, of a virus we have previously created vaccines for (SARS).

>>18424920
>Do you not think the FDA's emergency approval is evidence enough that the vaccination was developed hastily relative to most vaccinations?
If you review the previous viral outbreaks (Ebola, SARS etc) over the last twenty years. We can see a trend of the development time of vaccines strink. With FDA emergency approval is because the longest part of vaccine development, is not actually developing the vaccine itself, but to do with regulator approval and efficacy. Where there is queue of other vaccines waiting to be approved. It is less to do with safety, and if it works - obviously, with COVID efficacy, did not require a longer period to see if it works as the results for each vaccine becomes quite clear. The data speaks for itself so to speak.

[Anonymous No.18425124]

>>18425055
>of a virus we have previously created vaccines for (SARS).
*should take

[Anonymous No.18425162]

>>18424387
But 52 people agree with her, are you telling me every one of them is wrong? Also, I think it's more about handling of pandemic.

[Anonymous No.18425261]

>>18425162
>But 52 people agree with her, are you telling me every one of them is wrong?
And 360 jurors voted to put Socrates to death. Unless anyone if those 52 people are qualified to remark on vaccines, they are probably wrong.

[Anonymous No.18425359]

>>18425261
I was being sarcastic.

[Anonymous No.18425483]

>>18424730
>try fitting a square peg into a round hole for 25 years
>a world event occurs where about half the worlds population will want or be forced to take a vaccine
>hey guys we figured it out for real this time, only took six months
You’re right, it wasn’t rushed. It was faked entirely.

[Anonymous No.18425506]

>>18425483
>>try fitting a square peg into a round hole for 25 years
This may paint me as an illiterate buffoon, but I cannot for the life of me understand what you are saying.

[Anonymous No.18425520]

>>18424730
>>18425055
Fuck off wu flu magic cure shill. It was rushed. You can't skip years of testing by throwing money at it. If anything this is more Orwellian because it's "JUST TRUST THE GOVERNMENT, WE WOULDN'T LIE" tiers.

[Anonymous No.18425653]

>>18425520
Anon, examine what is being said. My point to that poster was to encourage him to be careful at using adjectives (used by others) which gives him a position that he may have not have the expertise to come to the well reasoned judgement call.

It is encouragement of independent thought. Not telling him to have this or that opinion. Orwell would approve it.

[Anonymous No.18425672]

>>18425162
Fuck off back to plebbit, this is an irony free board you fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.18425680]

>>18425653
I am not a builder. I do not build. If someone told me they built a house in a day, I'd either assume they're lying or it's bad. The vaccine was rushed. Take your stilted English back to ching chong ping pong land.

>It is encouragement of independent thought.
Double speak if I'd ever seen it.

[Anonymous No.18425682]

>>18425672
>irony free board
Newfag.

[Anonymous No.18425756]

>>18425680
Anon, your analogy is not a response to my point. Stating you do not have expertise in a subject is not an argument into being able to make a judgement call in that subject. You may also want to bare in mind it is not a single vaccine. There are many.