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What's he going to refute next /lit/?
He already refuted Buddhism,several times.
What's his endgame?

>> No.18309506
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>>18309481
>What's his endgame?
to refute the material realm so we can all ascend

>> No.18309507

>>18309481
Is time for a new guenon poster to take his place. One who will refute post-nicene christianity from a muslim perspective and will use Guenon's views on the sacraments as a tool for this great work. PBUH!

>> No.18309614

>>18309507
I'm still on the fence when it comes to post-Nicene Christianity, but I'm under the distinct impression that Chalcedon failed to adequately resolve the latter Christological controversies and that the subsequent schisms can only attest to the corruption of the Church.

>> No.18309777

>>18309614
Pre-Nicene Christianity was also full of heresies but becoming a state religion was the first big compromise of the christian tradition. Also, I highly recommend to those interested in early christianity to read "Pseudo-Dionysius". According to the Church, he was the real Dionysius and not some neo-platonist from the 5-6th century, and this is clear from his works, there is also no talk about the trinity and baptism was received only by mature people(actual initiation).

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>>18309777
Sacred trips confirm. I need to read more Pseudo-Dionysius anyway

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>>18309777
>>18309507
>It would probably be impossible to assign a precise date to this change which made Christianity a religion in the proper sense of the word and a traditional form addressed to all indiscriminately; but what is certain in any case, is that it was already a fait accompli at the time of Constantine and the Council of Nicaea, so that it had only to “sanction” it, if you will, by inaugurating the era of “dogmatic” formulations intended to constitute a purely exoteric presentation of doctrine. This could not go without some inevitable disadvantages, for the fact of enclosing the doctrine in clearly defined and limited formulae made it much more difficult, even for those who were really capable of it, to penetrate its profound meaning; moreover, the truths of a more properly esoteric order, which were by their very nature beyond the reach of the greatest number, could only be presented as "mysteries" in the sense that this word vulgarly took on, that is to say that, in the eyes of the common, they should not delay to appear as something that it was impossible to understand, or even forbidden to seek to deepen. These disadvantages were not, however, such that they could oppose the constitution of Christianity in the traditional exoteric form or prevent its legitimacy, given the immense advantage which, moreover, as we have already said, would result for the Western world; moreover, if Christianity as such ceased by the to be initiatory, there was still the possibility that an initiation specifically Christian would exist within the elite, which could not be confined to the sole point of view of exoterism and confine itself to the limitations inherent in it. But here is yet another question that we shall have to consider a little later.
>René Guénon, christianism and initiation, 1947 (translated by reverso).

>> No.18310249

>>18310095
I read this before

>> No.18310265

He refuted memes.
So you should stop posting.

>> No.18310273

>>18309481
literally who?

>> No.18310431

>>18310249
>big compromise
yeah,
the term "big compromise" seems too big for me in comparison. And also what the first anon said.

>> No.18310439

>>18310265
Where ?
Dank memes are a tantric asceticism

>> No.18310743

>>18310273
>filename