books more blackpilled than no longer human

[Anonymous No.18300243]

/lit/, i have read no longer human seventeen times. this has to stop. i require books that are more blackpilled than no longer human, and ideally revolve around similar themes (suicide, loss of loved ones, sexual abuse, trauma and general hopelessness etc.)
I eagerly await your recommendations. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.18300257]

Follow this chart bro.
Just ignore the post-modern philosophical jargon.

[Anonymous No.18300280]

congratulations, you have read the book more times than he had tried to kill himself
maybe you should write one yourself

[Anonymous No.18300325]

>>18300257
thank you anon. i’m going to head out to the used book shops today and see how many of these i can find, and the rest i suppose i’ll order online as and when i feel like reading them.
>>18300280
> maybe you should write one yourself
I have little in the way of literary talent to speak of. Your post made me laugh though, thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.18300358]

It's time to kill yourself. Why would you put yourself through something that depressing over and over again? Dazai's short stories are very different but very good. The Setting Sun is similarly depressing, though the story is a bit meh. Schoolgirl is his YA novella that has the same greyish vibe.

[Anonymous No.18300365]

>>18300325
That's a bad chart. Go to the /lit/ wiki and under themes you'll find a chart titled "depressing lit", that's way better and has actual sad novels. Kornel Esti is a comedy and Beckett is boring. This chart is terrible.

[Anonymous No.18300368]

>>18300243
the works of thomas bernhard

[Anonymous No.18300371]

>>18300365
>Beckett is boring
filtered, his works is in fact very engaging

[Anonymous No.18300410]

>>18300365
>Beckett is boring
What the actual fuck?

[Anonymous No.18300528]

>>18300257
>capitalist realism
Cringe

[Anonymous No.18300609]

>>18300243
Serotonin - Michel H.

[Anonymous No.18300817]

>>18300243
I used to reread No Longer Human a lot as well. I highly recommend checking out Michel Houellebecq. All his stuff is pretty good, but you should probably start with Whatever, then move onto The Elementary Particles, and then you can read any of his other stuff in whichever order you please

[Anonymous No.18300850]

Oh fuck, I wish I could enjoy a book as much as you have.
Honestly the only part I really loved was the bit where his gf gets raped/sexually assaulted, felt like such a detached emotionless book.
Also is this the one where he gets raped by his housemaids as a kid or is that mishima...

[Anonymous No.18301211]

>>18300609

based incel

>>18300243

1984, BNW, ordinary men, kolyma tales,rape of nanking

no exit ,dante's inferno , faust

The Sheep Look Up, VALIS

[Anonymous No.18301240]

>>18300257
Buzzati isnt a doomer.
Adorno was an idiot.
Foucault was an idiot.
Fisher is Joe Rogan tier.
Hamlet is not doomer.
All this anglo thrash is thrash.
Pascal was not doomer.
Borges isnt a doomer.

>>18300365
>>18300371
>>18300410
Beckett was one of my favourites between the ages 15-20 but no longer. He is still fine, but you can definitely feel a certain *lack* of something. His take on Kafka is possibly even more dogshit than the muh bEauRaCrAcY faggots and I think it reveals much of his faults.
I recommend Jon Fosse instead. Suitably doomer.

I dont get you faggots, I thought no longer human was awful. Self-loathing beta my diary desu. No understanding of the universe. A cautionary tale at best and a meltdown of an inferior man at worst.

[Anonymous No.18301322]

heart of darkness

[Anonymous No.18301324]

>>18300243
People who find no longer human blackpilled are weak-willed losers who enjoy self-pity and crave attention from others by constantly complaining about their inability to change their material conditions. Stfu, faggot, and stop being weak

[Anonymous No.18301331]

18301240
Absolute retard

[Anonymous No.18301333]

>>18301240
how do i know youve never read the tranquil shores

[Anonymous No.18301422]

>>18301333
cuz that book doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.18301425]

OP here, I grabbed a copy of “the Loser” by Bernhardt and Death on Credit by Celine while I was out. I also caved in and bought a new copy of no longer human (I gave my old copy to a friend after people kept telling me I had an unhealthy obsession with the novel). I think I’m going to start with Bernhard, happy reading anons!
>>18300609
>>18300817
I’ve already read a lot of Houllebecq. I thought the elementary particles was a really solid piece of contemporary literature with a lot to say about where we stand as a society, but most of his works seem to be simple variations on a theme. All of his work prior (perhaps with the exception of the possibility of an island) seem simply to be building up to the elementary particles/atomised, and his work after (especially submission) felt like a droll retake of the same central thesis. That having been said I haven’t read Serotonin yet, can either of you sell it to me given I’ve read some Houllebecq? I must confess, coming from Atomised, whatever bored me terribly.
>>18301240
>I dont get you faggots, I thought no longer human was awful. Self-loathing beta my diary desu. No understanding of the universe. A cautionary tale at best and a meltdown of an inferior man at worst
isn’t that meant to be the whole appeal of the novel? I also interpreted it as an exploration of an archetypal schizoid personality, if you’re at all into literary psychoanalysis. It’s a comfort read for me too, having been involved in a nasty suicide pact that I survived and the other didn’t, the novel makes me feel a lot less alone.

[Anonymous No.18301428]

>>18301422
it fucking does, dubster. what drugs are you on lmao

[Anonymous No.18301444]

>>18300365
>Beckett is boring.
pleb

[Anonymous No.18301454]

>>18301425
>a copy of “the Loser” by Bernhardt and Death on Credit by Celine
>I’ve already read a lot of Houllebecq
Unexpectedly based, Bernhard is especially good

>having been involved in a nasty suicide pact
read Kleist

>isn’t that meant to be the whole appeal of the novel?
You might be right, I just don't see why that would be interesting to me, or most people, really.

>literary psychoanalysis
highly recommend Hamsun for you as well, he is 90x times better than Dazai at this

>>18301428
>arguing with dubs

[Anonymous No.18301459]

>>18301444
trips spoketh the truth

This thread is full of edgy zoomer midwits seething at their books being called edgy zoomer midwit core.

[Anonymous No.18301473]

>>18300850
Yes, he was raped, but I have to complain about the relative ambiguity of the translation you’ll find in the most widely circulated New Directions Paperback edition. The confession of being a rape victim is translated as “It was at this time I was taught a most lamentable fact by the maids and manservants: I was being corrupted.”
Personally I find this language to be excessively ambiguous given the original work uses a kanji that literally translates to “to commit/perpetrate a rape”, and I personally interpreted it as a sort of ideological/original sin esque ideological corruption on my first reading. i’m not sure why the predominant english translation is as it is. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>18301454
> read Kleist
Anything in particular you would recommend to start with?
> highly recommend Hamsun for you as well, he is 90x times better than Dazai at this
Hunger was fantastic. I had actually been considering rereading it before I decided to go out and get something new. Have you read any of his other works? With regards to Dazai, I don’t think he was necessarily aware of the character he was creating with Oba, and that what we’re left with is essentially fairly close to the author himself, it’s just that the author in question happens to be an excellent exhibit of the schizoid personality, and this is something of personal interest to me.

[Anonymous No.18301485]

>>18301454
i guess i would know more than you anyway

[Anonymous No.18301492]

>>18301473
>Anything in particular
Michael Kohlhaas of course

>Have you read any of his other works?
>Hunger was fantastic
Mysteries > Pan ~ Victoria > Growth of the Soil > Hunger > Dreamers > On Overgrown Paths

>>18301485
seethe more

[Anonymous No.18301552]

>>18301240
>Buzzati isnt a doomer.
>Hamlet is not doomer.
>Borges isnt a doomer.
>Pascal was not doomer.
Retarded fucking faggot shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.18301587]

>>18301425
>OP here, I grabbed a copy of “the Loser” by Bernhardt and Death on Credit by Celine while I was out.
Extremely fucking based OP.
Bernhard(along with Cioran) was fucking obsessed with suicide and death. And all of his characters talk shit about everything in existence.

>>18301454
>highly recommend Hamsun for you as well, he is 90x times better than Dazai at this
Total bullshit, Hamsun is a boring cunt who tried way too hard to be a walmart-tier dosto and still failed. I am not a fan of Dazai by I have read No Longer Human in one sitting, while the tedious bullshit of Hamsun's Hunger took me 5 sittings.

[Anonymous No.18301592]

>>18301492
>he hasnt read the tranquil shores
oh nononono

[Anonymous No.18301593]

>>18301587
You sound like an absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.18301597]

>>18301593
So same as you?
Now let me suck your dick

[Anonymous No.18301610]

>>18301587
>Hamsun is a boring cunt who tried way too hard to be a walmart-tier dosto and still failed
Stupidest thing I have seen this month on this board. I will personally buy you some rope if you give me your address.

[Anonymous No.18301623]

>>18301610
Huh? People who find Beckett boring are sucking Hamsun's dick? Is this a joke?

[Anonymous No.18301668]

>>18301623
>People who find Beckett boring
rent free

Disliking Hamsun is the clearest sign of idiocy except maybe for disliking Kafka. His influence and accomplishments, stylistic and structural are so clear cut, so universally recognizes by nearly every writer of note to come after him, and his ouvre is so expansive in its value that to fail to see his genius is demonstrative of complete and utter idiocy. Doubly so for the schizobabble reasons you listed.

[Anonymous No.18301685]

>>18301668
Yeah change Hamsun with Beckett and we agree.

[Anonymous No.18301693]

>>18301668
>>18301685
Also Dino Buzzati is a far greater writer than Kafka.
Now seethe and cope harder

[Anonymous No.18301696]

>>18301685
Beckett is another example of this, yes. You are still a retarded zoomer mutt though. You can't even think about literature without thinking about walmart.

[Anonymous No.18301702]

>>18301693
Even Buzzati didn't believe this, idiot. Read his journalistic publications, he had an entire article about how Kafka is the greatest writer ever.

[Anonymous No.18301737]

>>18301696
Nice projection, I am not a mutt. I live on the other side of the world. This doesn't change the fact that Hamsun is a boring writer as compared to Dazai. Walmart analogy is perfect for that tedious wannabe dosto.

>>18301702
Who gives a shit about what Buzzati said? Author is dead.

[Anonymous No.18301767]

>>18301737
Ah, so you are trolling

[Anonymous No.18301826]

>>18301767
Not really, I am sick of fags like you and boomers in my country of sucking Humsun's dick while completely ignoring Beckett.

Reading that tedious translation of a tedious boomer of a tedious book written by a tedious writer about the most tedious character, in the tedious evening hours surrounded by bunch of tedious loud normalfags and tedious singing mosquitos was a real tedious experience.

[Anonymous No.18301921]

>>18301826
>Buzzati is the greatest writer of all time
>also, if you believe what he believed you are an idiot
Literally commit suicide. You are such a godawful moron. Beckett doesn't even have any similarities to Hamsun, how the fuck are they comparable

[Anonymous No.18301926]

>>18300243
No longer human was shit after the first part. Main character is a retard who caused his own problems. If you hate people stop interacting with them.

[Anonymous No.18301931]

>>18301826
Zoom zoom, ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[Anonymous No.18301952]

>>18300257
>Austerlitz
based, it really demonstrated the abomination of lost time, of shrinking opportunities, and of mounting regrets

[Anonymous No.18302245]

>>18301668
Kek you only like him because he was a nazi. Dazai was the better writer, deal with it faggot

[Anonymous No.18302254]

>>18301926
The novel is an attack against collectivist society. You have to understand japanese culture to understand the novel. That's why most westerners don't like it.

[Anonymous No.18302275]

isn't no longer human not really blackpilled; moreso about dazai's mental illness making him unable to be the person society demands him to be? his misery seems particular to him and people in a similar circumstance, but not the average reader approaching the book

[Anonymous No.18302333]

>>18300257
Also Journey to the End of the Night by Celine and if you want exploration of an archetypal schizoid personality read A Posthumous Confession by Emants. One of the greatest books I have ever read.

And if you are into depression with gore, highly recommend the Piano Teacher by Elfriede Jelinek and In the Miso Soup by Ryu Murakami.

[Anonymous No.18302718]

>>18301425
Read Journey to the End of Night first, then Death on Credit

[Anonymous No.18302778]

>>18302718
More thoroughly explained: Celine’s body of work, when you read it in order (especially his first two, most significant novels) has a visible trend towards disintegration of personality. They all happen to the same character in the same world so, in order, despite the works taking place erratically at different points in his life and being readable as standalones, there’s a powerful effect on the reader from their cumulative effect. When I read Journey I loved it, it’s the most clear of his works and the one most conventionally structured a novel. Even there, the plot is erratic and he digresses some. It’s a coherent thread of a story but very mangled. Then read Credit and it frustrated me some. He was coming apart at the seams so much that only fragments of the book showed the brilliance of Journey, until the very end. The effect after reading the end was like a crystallizing a-ha moment that it illustrated life perfectly. So well that it made me feel better about my own life by liberating it from naive optimism and worry. Not to sound obnoxious, but the feeling I got afterwards was like a pretty, black, starry ball of prescient melancholy in my head. Small and staying at that size. Guiding me with its consistency and clarity. I’d wake up, gaze at its shrouded luminescence for a couple minutes, and go about my day with content and clarity of purpose

[Anonymous No.18303323]

>>18302718
>>18302778
thanks for the explanation anon, I’ll take your word on the matter and read journey to the end of the night first.