/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18155399]

Does /lit/ like any Japanese writers?

[Anonymous No.18155406]

>>18155399
Masashi Kishimoto has to be the best writer in the 21st century

[Anonymous No.18155408]

>>18155399
/lit/ will never admit it, but they all secretly like Haruki Murakami

[Anonymous No.18155417]

in b4 Mishima

[Anonymous No.18155425]

>>18155399
Are all japanese men gay?

[Anonymous No.18155440]

>>18155417
what's wrong with him?

[Anonymous No.18155450]

>>18155408
Murakami comfy af

[Anonymous No.18155557]

>>18155399
Edogawa Ranpo

[Anonymous No.18155563]

>>18155417
lmfao

[Anonymous No.18155566]

[Anonymous No.18155602]

I've been shilling kawabata in the best non meme authors thread so i'll shut up about him, but tanizaki seems good. His short stories from seven japanese tales were really good; tattooer was 9/10, the thief was 7/10, terror was 9/10 and i think it's called Aguri or Agura was 9/10. Excellent translations too. Waiting to dive into the makioka sisters and naomi. Should be right up my alley.
There's something missing from every mishima novel i read. They're all 7/10-8/10, but i only read sailor, temple, and mask. I have the sea of fertility on deck though and people say that's his best shit.

[Anonymous No.18155608]

>>18155408
Murakami gets surprisingly little shit on /lit/ from contrarian edgelords. Most people here like him.

[Anonymous No.18155629]

>>18155399
>>18155608
No way.

[Anonymous No.18155694]

Kengo Hanazawa. Inb4 manga isn't lit. That's generally true, but his "Boys On The Run" is the exception

[Anonymous No.18155701]

>>18155399
Was any of the Holy Bible written by any of them? No? No.

[Anonymous No.18155777]

>>18155694
Plenty of manga is great literature, but finding someone to talk about it is rare. Most just dismiss everything as trash without giving a try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKrEtvbe4hc

[Anonymous No.18155922]

>>18155399
Murakami should be compulsory reading.

[Anonymous No.18156188]

>>18155922
For second graders

[Anonymous No.18156360]

I enjoy Kenzaburo Oe

[Anonymous No.18156381]

>>18156360
What’s your favorite book?

[Anonymous No.18157281]

>>18155399
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18157370]

>>18155399
Yoshihiro Togashi

[Anonymous No.18157525]

>>18156381
a personal matter but I haven't read all of them

[Anonymous No.18157582]

>he loves Haruki
>he doesn't even know the superior Murakami
the sad state of /lit/

[Anonymous No.18157724]

[Anonymous No.18157775]

Mishima and Soseki are A+
Kawabata is pretty good
Oe is overrated but not necessarily bad
Murakami is the biggest hack in contemporary literature

[Anonymous No.18157812]

>>18155602
I tried reading Master of Go after Luzhin Defense made me seek out board game fiction, but didn't make it beyond 50 pages. Was garbage. Empty and very japanese, in the worst way. All the same things I found annoying with Soseki. I play chess as a living and his failure to portray the particularities of a player's existence was doubly egregious. Is his other books good?
Tanizaki is excellent but anglos only translate his meme sex books. His historical fiction and In Praise of Shadows is what makes him good.

>>18157775
Whatever the opposite of this is

[Anonymous No.18157905]

>>18155399
Isaka Koutarou
Good luck finding most of his truly worthwhile work in English though.

[Anonymous No.18158019]

>>18155399
Yes

Haruki Murakami
Ryu Murakami
Junichiro Tanizaki

>>18155566
That one is pretty good.

>>18155602
I really liked Quicksand from Tanizaki.
For the short stories, Terror is pretty much it for me. Haven't read any Kawabata.

>>18157582
Yeah, waiting for Audition to arrive now. Read In the Miso Soup recently. That was good.

>>18157775
I couldn't finish anything aside from Patriotism from Mishima. I don't like his style.

[Anonymous No.18158237]

>>18155440
Nothing he’s great. Also Eiji is great

[Anonymous No.18158629]

I like Haruki and Ryu Murakami, Mishima & Oe. First Japanese author I've read was Takami Koushun's Battle Royale (also a great film but the book is superior)

[Anonymous No.18159638]

>>18157812
I havent read the master of go, but kawabata is never empty. It's telling that he considered it his best novel, and everything i've read about it says go is the jumping off point from which he talks about cultural shifts in japan. It won't be for some people. Thousand cranes is the best, then snow country and the sound of the mountain. I'm not finished them, but his palm of the hand stories reach those highs but are kind of spotty. Try glass and the silverberry thief. If you hate his style they might not be worth it, mostly because they are kawabata at his most kawabata. Kind of clean like hemingway, but the writing is colder, the scenes are almost always symbolic and much larger implications than hem.

[Anonymous No.18159672]

31 posts and no Dazai?

[Anonymous No.18159686]

Yoko Ogawa is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.18159691]

>>18159672
Is the setting sun good? I gotta get to that one.

[Anonymous No.18159710]

>>18159672
I was gonna say Dazai but I've been shilling him in every fucking thread so I didn't bother with this one. Great writer tho

[Anonymous No.18159746]

>>18159691
It’s fucking lovely

[Anonymous No.18159781]

>>18155399
writers? an in plural? there is only 1 japanese writer and his name is akira toriyama

[Anonymous No.18159789]

>>18159672
probably because no longer human is shilled to no end. even animefags know about it

[Anonymous No.18159857]

>>18158019
I'd surrender that Mishima's prose can be very wonky in English and that calling him A+ is probably more acquired taste than a first impressions thing but you do like H.Murakami so neck yourself

[Anonymous No.18159925]

>>18159672
No Longer Human was unbelievably shit

[Anonymous No.18160037]

>>18155399
No Akutagawa?

[Anonymous No.18160038]

>>18155399
>>18160037
Akutagawa is top-tier schizocore

[Anonymous No.18160090]

I read this at work when I'm not writing.
Study study study write write write
Forever learning aaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.18160135]

>>18160090
Those dictionaries are really nice and useful.

[Anonymous No.18160164]

>>18160135
I know they did such a great job on it. I still get bowled over by advanced stuff but I have a semi solid grasp on more than the basics.

[Anonymous No.18160427]

>>18159746
Nice i'll read it next

[Anonymous No.18160443]

>>18155399
Y_o M_ma

[Anonymous No.18161452]

>>18160443
Lmao in vineland theres a japanese character with the name yomama

[Anonymous No.18163179]

>>18155399
yes

[Anonymous No.18164262]

i tried reading sun and steel i got bored after two pages ngl

[Anonymous No.18164342]

>>18159857
>I'd surrender that Mishima's prose can be very wonky in English
He wrote in English...

[Anonymous No.18164354]

>>18155425
NSFW: Search "kimomen jav" on Google. Bet you wish they were all gay now.

[Anonymous No.18164381]

>>18155608
Haruki Murakami is repeatative and is closer to someone like Stephen King than he is someone like Mishima. That said, I've read a lot of his work and enjoyed Norwegian Wood, After the Quake, and Colorless Tsukuru Tazaki (I also really liked the last 30 pages of South of the Border, West of the Sun--it was a huge disappointment but the ending truely saved it).

If you're talking about Ryu Murakami or Genzo Murakami, I haven't read them (In the Miso Soup is on my list though).

I read Real World by Natsuo Kirino and really liked it (it's similar to H. Murakami). Revenge by Yoko Ogawa was very good as well.

[Anonymous No.18164396]

Japanese authors all seem the same to me

>sex
>death
>tradition clashing with modernity

[Anonymous No.18164443]

>>18164396
People write about what they experience. Most Russian books are about God, death, nihilism. Most French books are about sex etc

[Anonymous No.18164473]

How big are Japanese writers on prose relative to plot
That is to say, how much gets lost in translation?

[Anonymous No.18164479]

Is there a /lit/ chart for Japanese novels/authors?

[Anonymous No.18164499]

Eiichiro Oda is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.18164504]

>>18159781
holy based

[Anonymous No.18164538]

>>18164381
>Haruki Murakami is repeatative
Agreed. I really like Kafka on The Shore and Norwegian Wood, tried to read Wind-Up Bird Chronicles but I noticed the repetitiveness in his writing and just dropped it halfway through. I suspect that his other books have the same kind of writing so I haven't read his other works.

[Anonymous No.18164547]

>>18164443
> Most Russian books are about God, death, nihilism. Most French books are about sex etc
yeah I've noticed that
probably who I mostly read non-fiction but to each their own

[Anonymous No.18164601]

I'm fairly convinced that the Japanese are part aryan and that's why their classical authors are so mutually intelligible with western culture

[Anonymous No.18164613]

>>18164601
"Aryan" means whatever you want it to mean, so you are free to define it in a way that includes the Japanese.

[Anonymous No.18164626]

>>18164613
No I'm referring specifically to what modern anthropologists call indo-europeans and how their traits relate to the jomon and other relict Japanese castes

[Anonymous No.18164684]

>>18164626
So you think the jomon were indo-europeans? What is your conviction based on other than makebelief? How are Japanese classics "mutually intelligible with western culture" in a way that Arabic classics or Chinese classics are not? Wouldn't it be a much simpler explanation that one culture can create works of art that are intelligible to a different, distant culture, no matter the historic relation between the two cultural groups?

[Anonymous No.18164725]

>>18164684
No

[Anonymous No.18164726]

Test

[Anonymous No.18164736]

>>18164725
What question is that an answer to?

[Anonymous No.18164981]

>>18155399
They alright.

[Anonymous No.18165093]

>>18164499
Based

[Anonymous No.18165172]

>>18164473
A lot, especially in the case of Kawabata

[Anonymous No.18165324]

>>18165172
Damn

[Anonymous No.18165659]

>>18155399
For me it is Sayaka Murata

[Anonymous No.18166304]

>>18155399
Yes