/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18116726]

>"Changing the topic to Hitler's expulsion of the Jews, it appears that in this, too, there are a lot of reasons for his actions. While it is a very cruel policy, when looked at from the point of view of the current and future happiness of the entire German people, it may be that, for a time, some sort of extreme action is necessary in order to preserve the nation."

[Anonymous No.18117510]

>He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1963

[Anonymous No.18117524]

Imagine being heightmogged by an Asian

[Anonymous No.18118740]

>>18117524
But he mentally mogged all.

[Anonymous No.18118792]

I do wonder why the /pol/ types don't pay more attention to Heidegger considering he was a card-carrying member of the Nazi Party.

[Anonymous No.18118825]

>Max Planck and Martin Heidegger were fervent supports of Hitler and the expulsion of the jews
Most seminal man in the natural sciences and the most seminal man in philosophy of the 20th century were unrepentant Nazis. Absolutely beautiful.

[Anonymous No.18118838]

>>18118825
Heidegger was unrepentant but that's only because he expected an apology from Hitler. On the topic of apologising, he wrote in a letter:

>Why should I apologise? It was Hitler who let me down.

[Anonymous No.18118855]

>>18118792
/pol/ is a bunch of people having manic episodes over CNN headlines. It's not exactly the ideal mindset for reading Heidegger.

[Anonymous No.18118875]

>>18118838
Chad

[Anonymous No.18118899]

>>18118792
Stop trying to force Heidegger, I'm busy trying to force Darré.

[Anonymous No.18118915]

>>18118792
I am more interested in the analytic philosophers, the continental and esoterics are for the most part --bedtime stories.

[Anonymous No.18118936]

>>18118792
/pol/ shitposters are the warrior caste of their culture. They don’t need to read

[Anonymous No.18119130]

>>18116726
Heidegger is fashionable in this picture.

[Anonymous No.18119155]

>>18118936
>>18118855
>>18118792
t. Overconfident morons that are absolutely sure their world is the real world

Concentrated tragedy

[Anonymous No.18119174]

>>18118838
holy based.
could you point me towards the source for that? Id love to see the original wording.

[Anonymous No.18119248]

>>18116726
Something in his pose suggests autism to me. I’ve seen the facial expression on one of my mid-functioning friends.

[Anonymous No.18119299]

>>18116726
The spanish inquisition, the portugese inquisition, the holy roman inquisition, the german inquisition(holocaust), up next: the american inquisition.

[Anonymous No.18119310]

>>18119174
I've got something better for you. He said the following to his students while he was rector:
"Let not doctrines and 'ideas' be the rules of your being. Today and in the future, only the Fuhrer himself is German reality and its law."

[Anonymous No.18120249]

>>18119248
He was just happy.

[Anonymous No.18120341]

>>18120249
Heidegger's entire temperament becomes perfectly sensible when you realize he comes from South Germany. He's not Bavarian but he comes from Germany's other southern state. The South Germans are just fucking jolly, they love to have a good time, eat good food, drink good wine. It's only when you get to northern Germany that you get the frigid Teutonic assholes.

[Anonymous No.18120365]

>>18120341
I remember reading that he and his family were a very tight knit, so confident in their Catholic faith were they that they didn't feel the need to go to church regularly but instead prayed at home, and lived a peaceful and contented life together, until Martin questioned his faith. But even though they couldn't understand this and it brought a melancholy emotion to their house, they continued to support him.

[Anonymous No.18120409]

>>18120341
All my family is from Stuttgart and countryside around the black forest.
my grandparents today still do not get religious devotion. They are listed as protestant officially but never go to church and churches only ever play a role for marriage and funerals.
My point is that when they talk of early 20th century southern germany, they say it was not religious at all. One side of my family was devout socialist workers party and the other was plain a political workers and religion was absolutely irrelevant to the time and place. My grandma always says how weird it was after the war how all the sudden everybody went to church and the church was an excuse to have something after having all other ideals/ideologies ruined through the war. Professor of political philosophy at my uni also said that the remnants of christianity in germany today are solely from the revival post war or new sects from america. early 20th century was more atheist than todays germany unironcially. Two great grandparents died without evern having made the symbolic effort of having a priest show up by their death bed.
Christianity plays a non factor and certainly didnt have any power in early 20th century.

[Anonymous No.18120489]

>>18120409
And now you know why the Second Vatican Council happened. The Church knew it had a problem in Europe and the Americas even in the first half of the 20th Century.

[Anonymous No.18120495]

>it's ok to murder thousands of innocent men, women and children across Europe so my and my Kraut buddies can continue to live in comfort

[Anonymous No.18120499]

>>18120409
This sounds a lot like bullshit and a lack of knowledge on the complex faith of Lutheranism.

[Anonymous No.18120526]

>>18116726
It took until 1989 for the Germans to be happy.

[Anonymous No.18120531]

>>18120499
never said anything about the complex nature of lutheran faith I am saying that to the people in Baden-Würtenberg at the time religion was a non factor. Some of the catholics in my family do give off the pretense as though their catholic villages were more prone to properly engage in the religious festivals but they too did not care for catholicism unless some prussians wanted to take their symbolic relationship to the pope away.

[Anonymous No.18120537]

>>18119155
How many worlds are there?

[Anonymous No.18121617]

>>18117510
Is that a good thing?

[Anonymous No.18121626]

>>18120537
3000

[Anonymous No.18121633]

>preserve the nation

What does this ultimately mean? And would the answer ever amount to anything erudite or would it simply results in crude, caveman-esque desires such as skin and eye color hegemony?

I cannot take nationalism seriously.

[Anonymous No.18121637]

>>18116726
who the fuck are those two chinks and why should i care?

[Anonymous No.18121696]

>>18120409
>>18120341
>>18120365
> A stocky man of medium height . Heidegger has thinning gray hair , a mustache , and piercing dark eyes and affects the garb of a Swabian peasant.
> the cool reserved Balt who gave the impression of being a grand bourgeois seigneur , and the small , dark - eyed mountain farmer whose temperament repeatedly broke through despite all attempts to keep his reserve.
> It was the forehead, which was traversed and arched by a highly prominent vein, that laid claim to total animation.
how this genetic sewage can be called a "German" ?

[Anonymous No.18121706]

>>18121696
>t. clearly not a german

[Anonymous No.18121802]

The most annoying thing about this sentiment is that there was a tremendous amount of Ashkenazi Jews who were patriots who literally died for Germany in wars and literally made it better and more powerful through invention and thrift. The fact that Germany killed most of their Jews probably actually set the country back grossly in terms of geopolitical power and economy.

[Anonymous No.18121815]

>>18121633
>crude, caveman-esque desires such as skin and eye color hegemony?
Just like your crude, cavemen-esque desire for pleasure and comfort? You can add whatever mocking terms you want, but at the end of the day that's what all humans act upon. Nationalism is simply not denying what we are and feel.

[Anonymous No.18121936]

>>18121802
>Ashkenazi Jews who were patriots who literally died for Germany
please

[Anonymous No.18122000]

>>18120495
this

[Anonymous No.18122007]

>>18121802
that's what they say after the fact

[Anonymous No.18122385]

>>18118825
>some atheists were seminal in atheism

woah

[Anonymous No.18122395]

>>18120341
>The South Germans are just fucking jolly, they love to have a good time, eat good food, drink good wine.
Nice, i love hedonism too. I'm trans btw.

[Anonymous No.18122399]

>>18116726
Is that quote from Heidegger? Source?

[Anonymous No.18122406]

>>18121633
>>18121802
>kikes kvetching

[Anonymous No.18122410]

>>18122399
It's a quote by Suzuki from Wikipedia with no citations.

[Anonymous No.18122421]

>>18122410
Who cares what Nips think about European politics?

[Anonymous No.18122429]

>>18121802
>The fact that Germany killed most of their Jews probably actually set the country back grossly in terms of geopolitical power and economy.

You can say what you like, but Hitler was saving Germany from sure ruin by throwing off the shackles of the judeo-geopolitical Versaille treaty.

[Anonymous No.18122500]

>>18122429
>the judeo-geopolitical Versailles Treaty
...which was created by Anglo-Saxon Southern racists like Woodrow Wilson.

[Anonymous No.18122511]

>>18122500
Post nose

[Anonymous No.18122610]

>>18118792
/pol/ doesn't read

[Anonymous No.18122714]

>>18122610
I'm from /pol/ and I read more than you

[Anonymous No.18122716]

>>18118792
His thinking didn’t have much influence on national socialism. He mostly influenced ensuing post nazi intellectual movements. They tolerated him but ultimately Hitler probably wasn’t much interested in anything he had to say.

[Anonymous No.18122744]

>>18118825
>Max Planck
???? Max Planck’s son was executed by Hitler for trying to kill the fuhrer and Max himself got in trouble for sticking up for Jewish scientists.

[Anonymous No.18122761]

>>18122421
Evidently this thread when they think said opinion is by Martin Hide nigger

[Anonymous No.18122788]

>>18118825
>seminal

[Anonymous No.18122808]

>>18120489
200 000 Americans converted every year to Catholicism before Vatican 2.

[Anonymous No.18122885]

>>18122761
Yea but not it's from literal who. There are no consequences for Japs to say shit no one even chastises them for the war crimes and fascist regime of the Empire of Japan. If an European says it, it means something.

[Anonymous No.18122978]

>>18122885
You are very wrong.

[Anonymous No.18123011]

>>18116726
FUCK OFF /POL/

[Anonymous No.18123027]

>>18123011
>letting a board live in your head

I bet you're real fun at parties.

Yikes.

[Anonymous No.18123042]

>>18120537
>disingenuously responds to a comment about subjectivity

You're a loser bro

[Anonymous No.18123102]

>>18123042
It's just subjectivity, bro! Or is it?

[Anonymous No.18123142]

>>18123102
Human interpretation wholly lacks the capacity for objectivity you mongrel

[Anonymous No.18123158]

>>18122978
Compare how Japan and Germany are seen and treated.

[Anonymous No.18123167]

>>18122885
Not true, other Asian countries are still upset at Japan to this today, the PM of Japan visiting the Yasukuni shrine is a big issue for example. It's just a non-issue in the West because the war in Europe was sacralized, and became a morality play about Racism. Within a century or so the average American will forget that the US even had a war with Japan at all, but we'll still remember the dreaded Nazis.

[Anonymous No.18123171]

>>18123142
Yea, you've understood the last few comments well!

[Anonymous No.18123172]

>>18121633
are the banzongas shopped

[Anonymous No.18123186]

>>18123171
Your IQ is 85, and you are not well read by any stretch of the imagination.

[Anonymous No.18123219]

>>18123186
*looks you up and down*
*scoffs*

[Anonymous No.18123240]

>>18123219
not that anon, but anon that was unbelievably cringe

[Anonymous No.18123243]

>>18123240
I figure he was playing by this point, so I joined in.

[Anonymous No.18123253]

>>18123219
I couldn't possibly have less respect for somebody. Refusal to make an argument, likely out of cowardice, proceeded by asocial communicative babble. Few are as pathetic as you.

[Anonymous No.18123286]

>>18123253
*you say that as Im walking away, having forgotten you have even existed*

[Anonymous No.18123451]

can anyone give concrete examples of judeo-parasitism in germany at that time?

[Anonymous No.18123480]

>>18123451
obviously not.

[Anonymous No.18123518]

>>18123480
You posted this reply less than four minutes later. Post that schnozz.

[Anonymous No.18123547]

>>18123518
yes I did. you still haven't given me a concrete example. probably because your belief is blind.

[Anonymous No.18123562]

>>18123547
People are reading Weimar Culture: The Outsider as Insider by Peter Gay.

[Anonymous No.18123699]

>>18123562
ok, I think I get it. you're saying weimar culture was essentially hollyweird incarnate, right? I will definitely read that once I have a little bit more stability, but that seems to have painted the picture for me, so thank you.

[Anonymous No.18123953]

>>18123167
>other Asian countries are still upset
Yeah no one cares about that. That quote in the OP is about Nazis. What Asians do between each other is their business, but when they speak on European politics, it's just not relevant because there are no real costs.

[Anonymous No.18124395]

>>18121633
A specific ethno-linguistic people.

[Anonymous No.18124416]

>>18123142
Lazy thinking.

[Anonymous No.18124443]

>>18121815
Incel comment

[Anonymous No.18124651]

>>18124416
On the contrary, it's you that is lazy. Not because you detest such a solution, but because you cannot see it.

[Anonymous No.18124742]

>>18124651
Are you literally 12 years old? No anon, there are bigger questions than "is everything subjective", which, at least as you phrase it and interpret its importance, is misguided.

[Anonymous No.18124753]

>>18122714
you are an outlier

[Anonymous No.18124827]

>>18124742
You totally have no idea of where I come from. There is the objective reality, which is absolutely real. Then there is the human interpretation of that reality, which is subjective regardless of it's alignment with the objective state. This is not some hippy dippy bullshit about nihilism, like I said, you are lazy.

[Anonymous No.18124846]

>>18124827
Yet, you don't realise how multivaried that statement of yours is. Do you have any idea how many people have said what you're saying but to mean completely different things? I'll give you three names, Husserl, Jung, Heidegger.

You're just being a lazy thinker. If you think you're onto something, then continue to read about it, don't just leave it as it is.

[Anonymous No.18124864]

>>18124846
I am not leaving it as it is, I have dedicated myself to deciphering the inaccesible objectivity as this is where any legitimate morality truly lies. It is inaccesible, at least directly. A singularity has the potential to circumvent the subjective filter which is the human machine. There is no variance with my statement, you are simply a philosophers fanboy wishing that is the case.

[Anonymous No.18124887]

>>18124443
Denial comment

[Anonymous No.18124930]

>>18116726
It surprises me how many people seemed to agree with this at the time.

"It's kind of a crappy thing to do but, let's be honest gentlemen, it is necessary."

[Anonymous No.18124950]

>>18124864
>I am above other philosophers

[Anonymous No.18125040]

>>18124950
>he takes the baby bitch backseat to life

laughing at you

[Anonymous No.18125061]

>>18125040
Anon I can tell you for a fact that you aren't the most brilliant thinker of the 20th/21st century.

[Anonymous No.18125072]

>>18125061
That's nice sweetheart, but I should simply have to be the most honest.

[Anonymous No.18125331]

>>18125072
Ahh yes, peasant honesty makes great philosophy!

[Anonymous No.18125822]

>>18125331
>anon thinks if he can't comprehend it then it's superior

voodoo child

[Anonymous No.18125836]

>>18125822
He's better than you. Listen.

[Anonymous No.18125838]

>>18125836
samefag

[Anonymous No.18125845]

>>18125822
>he can't comprehend Western philosophy
LOL.

[Anonymous No.18125851]

>>18125845
Anon I was referring to your worship of what you perceive as complex, please continue to deflect. You are a lesser creature.

[Anonymous No.18125944]

>>18125851
Yes, you're saying 20th century (and because of that all of Western) philosophy is, I gather by your use of the word "perceive" now, pseudointellectual pretensions of complexity with mindless followings.

What is this other than your own inability to understand, or inadequate knowledge of what you're pretending to understand, in this case philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18125989]

>>18125944
I actually haven't said any of these things, you are in fact so braindead you determined my statement of my own thesis, literally derived in large part from these philosophers was in some way a declaration of my divine supremacy over these same people. Never got into track and field, huh?

[Anonymous No.18126003]

>>18125989
Are you attempting to tell me that you have read these thinkers?

[Anonymous No.18126011]

>>18126003
It's a hobby of mine, why are you so aggressive towards people that do things besides suck cocks? I don't mean to psychoanalyze, but you must be in quite sorry condition.

[Anonymous No.18126019]

>>18119155
unfathomably cringe

[Anonymous No.18126506]

>>18122744
Yes? Max was trying to jump ship after it crashed
A lot of hardcore Nazis did

[Anonymous No.18126514]

>>18123172
No they are the original kazar milkers

[Anonymous No.18126692]

>>18120495
The trespassers were given ample opportunity to leave, they chose their fate. Sad!

[Anonymous No.18128130]

>>18121617
Terrible.

[Anonymous No.18128267]

>>18122395
epicurean hedonism that is defined by lack of pain, suffering and fear and is tantamount to what christian imagine as salvation?

[Anonymous No.18128329]

>>18118792
Because post war ‘scholarship’ endlessly wrung their pearl-clutching hands in much ado about nothing, and concluded his SA/democratic orientation was more a lark and misunderstanding than serious engagement

[Anonymous No.18129390]

>>18116726
expulsion =/= extermination

[Anonymous No.18129426]

>>18118936

Nice