/wg/ - Writing General

[Anonymous No.18107863]

How's the novel coming? You're not wasting your precious time watching e-whores, are you?

previous thread: >>18092806

For Prose:
>The Art of Fiction
>Story Genius: How to Use Brain Science to Go Beyond Outlining and Write a Riveting Novel (Before You Waste Three Years Writing 327 Pages That Go Nowhere)
>On Becoming A Novelist
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft
>How Fiction Works
>The Rhetoric of Fiction
>Steering the Craft
>On Writing, Borges

For Poetry:
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual
>Western Wind: An Introduction to Poetry
>This Craft of Verse, Borges

Related Material:
>What Editors Do
>A Student's Introduction to English Grammar
>Garner's Modern English Usage

Suggested books on storytelling:
>The Weekend Novelist
>Aristotle's Poetics
>Hero With a Thousand Faces
>Romance the Beat

Suggested books on getting your fucking work done you lazy piece of shit:
>Deep Work
>Atomic Habits

Traditional publishing
> Formatting manuscript
https://blog.reedsy.com/manuscript-format/
> Write a query
https://www.janefriedman.com/query-letters/
> Track your query
https://querytracker.net/

Other Resources
>General grammar/syntax/editing help
https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/purdue_owl.html
> When/where/how should I write?
https://jamesclear.com/daily-routines-writers
> What software should I write with?
https://self-publishingschool.com/book-writing-software-best/
> Amazon Publishing to make that KDP monie
https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200635650
> Be like Charles Dickens and write serially
https://www.royalroad.com/
> Basic overview of the Screenplay format
https://screenwriting.info/

[Anonymous No.18107880]

My writing was more natural before I became aware of passive voice.

[Anonymous No.18107881]

>>18107863
Why did you create a new thread before the bump limit?

[Anonymous No.18107886]

>>18107881
He's afraid of the animefag. This happens every odd week or so.

[Anonymous No.18107892]

>>18107886
We’re trying to save /wg/ and you.

[Anonymous No.18107895]

>>18107892
I'm not going to argue with you.

The Poetry Home Repair Manual is one of the best how-to books I've read in my entire life, shame it doesn't have exercises. Does any anon knows one that have?

[Anonymous No.18107898]

>>18107892
>We’re trying to save /wg/ and you.
From what? This is like the fourth time I read that shit on /wg/

[Anonymous No.18107938]

>>18107898

[Anonymous No.18107946]

>>18107898
From treating writing as if it were some hobby. It’s an age-old art-form that needs to be treated with respect. So, stop writing those anime story, read books from the western canon and actually write something of worth.

[Anonymous No.18107952]

>>18107881
To upset you. Now quit your belly aching and post if you have anything worth saying.

[Anonymous No.18107963]

>>18107946
>>18107952
So what this anon said is true, huh?

>>18107894

[Anonymous No.18107978]

Intro to my new short. Landed publication in a magazine recently.

As Tiberius held the Earthworm master’s vermillion chaperone, he understood he’d never again have the honour. He struggled with its prodigious liripipe which constantly threatened to unravel in his arms as they conveyed him through Poe Street on the float-like platform supported by their ten strongest teenagers. He envisaged how it’d all play out, how in a moment they’d set the throne down and he’d pass the cowl over his master’s shoulders. His body thrilled under his own Earthworm attire at the thought of peering into the fool’s face one final time.

It's only 3k words. If anyone wants to read it, just say. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18107981]

>>18107978
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply this story was the one that was published. This is a first draft.

[Anonymous No.18107982]

>>18107952
You couldn't wait until the bump limit? You really had to spam?

[Anonymous No.18107988]

>>18107978
On Summerisle on Summerisle! I would be keen to give it a read.

[Anonymous No.18107996]

>>18107978
I’d have read it, but
>vermillion
>liripipe
>attire
What’s the problem with crimson, hood and clothes? I’m not going through 3k of that.

[Anonymous No.18108008]

>>18107938
What is this supposed to convey? Other than you're a wojack poster?

[Anonymous No.18108018]

>>18107988
Cheers. The story is inspired by Viriconium Knights, the art in my first post (John Kenn Mortensen) as well as Burton and Mervyn Peake weirdness. I think the ending needs to be developed.

https://pastebin.com/XNSva0mk

[Anonymous No.18108023]

>>18107996
I know what you mean, but I don't agree with Hemingwaying everything. The language isn't like that all throughout. I use vermillion as the red is more vermillion at night. I use chaperone and liripipe because they're specific clothing articles with a distinct look. Attire I'll remove. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18108033]

You can only reply to this post if you have completed a novel before.

[Anonymous No.18108042]

>>18108033
Does it still count if no one but me ever read it

[Anonymous No.18108044]

>>18108033
Here you go for refence.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08WCT9W26/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0

[Anonymous No.18108051]

>>18108044
>Litrpg
>This is a literature board.

Seriously, fuck off. This makes me feel sick. I bet you think you're a genuine writer. You've written a video game script and self-published it. This is not serious work.

[Anonymous No.18108057]

>>18108051
>#200 in Kindle Store
It's not his. No one here is that successful.

[Anonymous No.18108066]

>>18108057
Perhaps if they clung to a dying industry like publishing companies. But there are those who are using more modern means to make it in this world.

[Anonymous No.18108072]

>>18108023
Alright, since you showed good faith I decided to read it.

The prose has quality and isn’t thesaurus-slurry for the most part, you’re correct. You have a knack for describing this intense and chaotic scene. But, I have no reason to care about it. I do not know who any of the factions are. You’re expecting me, the reader, to enjoy reading about this battle just because it’s a battle - but I need more than that. These factions are just names on a screen and their members are featureless mercenaries struggling for... something. Don’t tell me you’ll be saying it later on, because I need a mystery to solve, a dilemma to resolve or a promise to be kept in the first 1k or I’ll just go read something else in the million-of-works selection I have for stories about faction war.

[Anonymous No.18108076]

>>18107978
To be honest I feel no willpower to understand whatever the fuck this is about. You managed to filter me. I don't get the obsession with this obfuscated style of writing. You could paint the scene in a much simpler and natural way.

[Anonymous No.18108078]

>>18108057
Even if it wasn't kindle store it'd still be shit. It's Litrpg. I think I have more respect for churned out paperback romances for single mothers. The sort of shit you can by at airports. It's not even writing. It's just spamming a bunch of RPG stats on a page.

[Anonymous No.18108083]

>>18108076
You didn’t get filtered, it’s just a convoluted piece of obscure writing that only the author could ever decipher.

[Anonymous No.18108093]

>>18107978
>put down a well written and enjoyable read
>decide to check /wg/ before I start my day
you've filled me with a feeling similar to when you drink orange juice after brushing your teeth
congrats on gettting in a mag. gl ugly prose anon

[Anonymous No.18108099]

>>18108076
See
>>18108072
Anyway, thanks for the critique. I don't usually write stuff like this. The story I got published recently was about two odd people trying to extract a sad girl from a bland, conformist town using painted masks. Deep down I'd known this story didn't have quite the intrinsic motivation it should've had. Yes, these people are "outsiders" but that doesn't explain why they're fighting. You're correct. I wrote this story because I'm aware that I write slow and "cerebral" stories, so I wanted to counteract this by actually having a "faction war". It's frustrating as I'm constantly going off what I think people want and what I actually want to write. It's my fault for not seeing this major problem though.

[Anonymous No.18108100]

>>18108044
You didn’t write this. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.18108107]

>>18108078
Anon, stop being jealous of another anon’s success.

[Anonymous No.18108115]

>>18107982
Seethe more dumb anime faggot

[Anonymous No.18108117]

>>18108100
>20k a month
I've read some of this. It is beyond terrible and it makes fucking bank
And everyday, instead of just writing to this standard, I autistically stare at the screen and get 1k words over 4 hours
What is wrong with me. How do I become an anime writer

[Anonymous No.18108122]

>>18108083
This is what I find frustrating about the craft of writing. It's entirely dependant on the reader's faculties. If you think that the word chaperone and liripipe are obscure and convoluted, you must not be very well read. That's all I can say. I get that the words are uncommon, but plenty of stories use peculiar words. Being this put off by a story simply because it has three or four words that require you to think is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.18108124]

I couldn't write anything good for two years straight but my new story is just fucking kino, it's beautiful, it's great. I'm so proud of myself bros. You can't even imagine how proud of myself I am.

[Anonymous No.18108128]

>>18108117
>What is wrong with me. How do I become an anime writer
Just write. That’s what’s all the anime writers do. They don’t concern themselves with being the next Faulkner, the next Nabokov or the next Joyce, all they want to do is write their story and have people read them.

[Anonymous No.18108133]

>>18108099
>girl rescued by painted masks
Vivid imagery. I like.
>what I want to write
Just do that. You tried writing what other people want in what you showed us and it was bad, simply because it isn’t your specialty and I could feel it was against your will to get these words out. Just do what you enjoy and people who are like you will read it. There’s a niche for everything. If you wanted popularity you should just be writing litrpg like that other anon, not tiptoeing the line between intellectual work and entertainment.

[Anonymous No.18108142]

>>18108122
your writing is clumsy and uncomfortable
it's not too challenging or difficult. it just sucks
if you think that what you've written is to the standards of more verbose authors you're clearly not very well read
that or your identity as a pseud is more important to you than your integrity as a writer. something isn't working with your critical eye

[Anonymous No.18108152]

>>18108124
My characters feel so real. For the first time in two years I succeeded in giving them their own soul. Like they are real persons.
We're all gonna make it bros

[Anonymous No.18108164]

>>18107978
read Gormenghast

[Anonymous No.18108167]

I know act 1 and act 3 of my story, but not act 2. How do I write the middle?

[Anonymous No.18108169]

>>18108117
>I've read some of this. It is beyond terrible and it makes fucking bank
Have you ever thought that it’s you and not them? They’re earning thousands of dollars, all the while writing what they enjoy.

[Anonymous No.18108178]

>>18108142
It's always the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get to the fucking point. You seem to have all the answers. But you don't actually say what's wrong with it. Either give me constructive criticism like this guy >>18108072
or shut the fuck up and post your PUBLISHED work. I'm so tired of you people thinking you're amazing when you never actually step up and illustrate what the problems are. Where is the evidence that I should listen to you?

[Anonymous No.18108181]

>>18108169
What the fuck
Is it that easy? Just writing a litrpg novel and making free money?
How do I promote my shit?

[Anonymous No.18108182]

>>18108167
write it, see what's wrong, and then rewrite it
every moment you spend pondering and trying to piece together a puzzle that doesn't yet exist, you're cucking yourself out of your own writing
just write

[Anonymous No.18108188]

>>18108178
>>18108164
roses by the outkast
chorus, line 1-4

[Anonymous No.18108197]

Writing is so depressing. People write LITRPGs and get paid. I spend years writing, get published by an actual magazine, but that's my one success. I write a story that's perhaps not as good as it could be and I'm demolished and told that I'm abysmal. I only came here because no one is responding on the slow writing workshop forum I use. I wasn't even being defensive for the most part. I'm sick of you toxic pricks constantly berating people for trying when you don't even show your own work or say what's wrong with others'. Fucking hell. So basically, only a handful of people have seen the thing I put two weeks working on and I'm left feeling like an inferior human. Thanks. Cunts.

[Anonymous No.18108201]

>>18108181
You can never achieve it. You’re a pseud trying to be an anime writer. You’ll never make it. But, perhaps that is for the best. It is an untapped market, ready to be boom and there are those already exploiting it. No need to dilute it further.

[Anonymous No.18108205]

>>18108182
Honestly you right. I really should just write.

[Anonymous No.18108211]

>>18108201
I'm a different anon, are you talking to that anime guy?

[Anonymous No.18108223]

>>18108197
>I'm a good writer please tell me I'm a good writer no ones every said anything negative before
leave and don't come back
pseud who hasn't the self awareness to take negativity and vows to never return due to lost dignity is such a common character in these threads you'd think that we'd have filtered them all by now
and yet hormonally imbalanced, intellectually deluded fags like you keep crawling out of the wood work. literature as a pursuit is such a retard magnet

[Anonymous No.18108224]

>>18108197
>feeling inferior to people who write litrpg
>taking destructive criticism from e/lit/ists seriously
There’s your problem. Unironically, go to Reddit. This isn’t an insult. Go to r/destructivereaders, read their rules, and post your stuff to get a guaranteed detailed 500 words critique.

[Anonymous No.18108232]

>>18108122
Writing is telling a story, if you don't care about people understanding your story then you're doing a strange bit of writing. I consider myself moderately well read and I managed to stomach Poe's writing really early. But sometimes I see shit like you wrote and I ask myself who this is for? If it's just for you, or a select circle of chosen ones, then you have to accept that and not ask for the broader public to enjoy it.

Anyway, maybe I'm wrong and there's a lot greater amount of people who would like your style, but that's not my intuition.

[Anonymous No.18108238]

>>18108223
You'll notice that I responded normally to the person who actually critiqued me. That's all I need to say.

[Anonymous No.18108241]

>>18108224
>taking destructive criticism from e/lit/ists seriously
This, sometimes I post random fragments or openings of classic books of nobel prize authors and anons here tell me it's shit lmao
Peak entertainment

[Anonymous No.18108242]

You can only reply to this post if you have made money from non-self published writing.

Just got money from a writing contest, now I'm in a higher echelon than you plebs.

[Anonymous No.18108243]

Im bout to go into a writing sprint with my writing group. any suggestions for getting motivated, I've neglected my novel all week and need to get this damn chapter finished.

[Anonymous No.18108249]

>>18108232
>Who is this for?
You've not even said why my writing warrants this. All I've heard so far is that you dislike three fucking words. You want to Hemingway everything. THE MAN WORE THE RED HOOD. So irritating.

[Anonymous No.18108253]

>>18108242
Writing contests in my country are a fucking meme and a scam, for some reason only daughters and acquaintances of the hosts win with some random teenage shit.

[Anonymous No.18108258]

>>18108241
I've always suspected this. People don't know what good writing is generally. I've always suspected that writing is nowhere near as straightforward as art and other disciplines. There's no real way to gauge how good the writing is because there's no serious principles. Good art is good art because it's following multiple fundamentals. Same for animation.

[Anonymous No.18108259]

>>18108242
That’s cute. I’m almost raking in two-thousand dollars a month. Get with the times.

[Anonymous No.18108272]

>>18108243
first draft? pitter patter
quality comes later. at this rate you'll end up finishing your first draft in two years and have to rewrite it anyways
>If I write one more word
>It'll be the furthest into this story I've ever been
as an aside, requesting an anon with access to photoshop make a memetic image macro of sam with the text for easy encouraging posts

[Anonymous No.18108273]

I could post a paragraph from Mervyn Peake, one of my heroes, and it'd be considered dense and obtuse and convoluted. The stuff he wrote was infinitely more complex and image-based than my "vermillion chaperone" and he got it published. He was a fucking brilliant author and I'm not. Right, I get that. But that doesn't mean you can't use unique words for a story that is attempting to have a unique aesthetic. I'll never understand why you want everything to be robotic and bland.

[Anonymous No.18108274]

>>18108249
But... I’m both the anon who said they found your description obfuscated (>>18108083 and >>18107996) and the one who posted the critique you seem to have enjoyed. I hate to say it but as impolite as these other people are, they are correct. You need to tone it down a bit. It’s like people who almost never swear; when they do, it makes a big impact. Save your big words for the big occasions.

[Anonymous No.18108281]

>>18108258
>my writing is good writing
>negativity is just the wailing of the ignorant masses
>thank you anon for showing that great authors are often misunderstood
>just like me
you don't really believe this do you?
get your head out your ass

[Anonymous No.18108286]

>>18108274
Yeah, I get that. I don't really have a problem with removing my big or special words. But why've you said "Who is this for?" That's such a massive and damning question since it puts into question my entire work. You're basically saying my story about two weird-costumed groups fighting is the most obscure and unmarketable thing in the world. Hardly...

[Anonymous No.18108301]

>>18108281
Sigh. I'm actually so fucking bored of this now. I never once said I was great. This has happened multiple times. You genuinely seem to take desire for real criticism and frustration at the lack thereof as being some kind of statement along the lines of, "NO ONE UNDERSTANDS MY GENIUS." I'm just asking for fucking specifics. No one has given any more criticism other than they dislike three or four words. Only one person has said anything of real substance and that was regarding the intrinsic motivation of the characters.

[Anonymous No.18108313]

>>18108286
Well, yes, it is unmarketable, for the sole reason that it’s at the bottom of a chasm between two worlds. You have the litrpg brainlets who want to read battles but will get filtered by your prose, and you have the e/lit/ists who want to read literature (and will respect your prose) but won’t enjoy your faction-war straight out of YA. Pick a side and stick to it.

[Anonymous No.18108327]

>>18108313
Okay. Fair enough. That actually makes sense. I've been put in my place. Can I just say, however, that I wasn't writing is as a faction war in the typical fantasy or sci-fi sense. I mean, you read it. You know it's not really fantastical like that. Also, what frustrates me is that M John Harrison seems to get away with this sort of thing. Viriconium Knights is a weird story about two groups fighting each other for the most part but the quality of the prose is outstanding. There are laser swords in that story...

[Anonymous No.18108334]

>>18108258
It's not worth to post anything here if /wg/retards can't even recognise fucking Hesse or Tolstoy and call their works shit thinking it's some random anon's story

[Anonymous No.18108361]

>>18108334
This depresses me to no end, it really does. That tells me there's something flawed about writing as a medium of art. Do you know what I mean by that? It's like, surely Tolstoy and Hesse should be instantly recognizable. Their prose should be like looking at a Rembrandt painting. The fact that that's not the case suggests writing has no real intrinsic quality to it. Deep down--and this is fucked up--I've always suspected that a name is more important than the work itself.

Anon reading Hesse but thinking it's some random plebshit: "Kys faggot, this is trash"
Anon reading Hesse but knowing it's Hesse: "This is a masterwork"

It makes me question what the point is.

[Anonymous No.18108375]

>>18108334
Did anyone post Hesse and Tolstoy here?
No. Because first of all their language isn't English and second, anon would've screamed gotcha in an instant. Stop talking bullshit.

[Anonymous No.18108385]

>>18108375
You animefags are the true problem with /wg/.

[Anonymous No.18108390]

>>18108375
He clearly said he's posted stuff from non-pleb authors before and it's been denigrated. I believe him.

[Anonymous No.18108391]

>>18108033
I did it, but I'm self published.

Side question, why does /lit/ become massively active when the East coast is asleep? Is the demographic here majority Europeans?

[Anonymous No.18108400]

>>18108390
And this one instance of baiting retards on /lit/ gives him a license to lament how misunderstood he is?
Give me a fucking break.

[Anonymous No.18108404]

>>18108375
>Did anyone post Hesse and Tolstoy here?
Yes. As I said, I'm sometimes posting random books by nobel prize authors. Last time I posted Demian I was called a shitter. One anon also posted some tips what I should change and remove to make it feel better and more natural.

I also saw some anon posting Norwegian Wood and same thing happened.

[Anonymous No.18108409]

>>18108400
Who's talking about being misunderstood? This is the problem with anon boards. Idk why it's even a thing. Everyone should have IDs. No one is talking about being misunderstood. He's saying that, generally, people don't know what good writing is. That's all.

[Anonymous No.18108418]

>>18108404
Idk if you read my post in response to your sentiments: >>18108361
It's all about name. It's depressing. I've been writing on and off for nearly 23 years and this is the one thing that really makes me want to quit.

[Anonymous No.18108420]

I'm writing a tower climber story (clear all 10 floors of the tower to get the thing) and I want to interrupt the monster fighting with something more cerebral. I'm thinking I'm going to mix a deception based board game with a logic puzzle, one of those "A always tells the truth, B always lies, but you don't know who is who" but I'm not sure I can fit this whole thing into a single chapter. I clear floors in two chapters tops so I have time to do character stuff outside the tower.

If the game is basically the prisoner's dillema played over several rounds, would it make sense?

[Anonymous No.18108424]

Seriously, why are you pseuds trying to ruin /wg/? What’s your end goal?

[Anonymous No.18108427]

>>18108420
based anime writer
don't think about it too much, just write whatever you think is most cool

[Anonymous No.18108448]

>>18108361
Precisely. /Lit/erature is a chaotic artform, one that can take many shapes and sizes and whose only criteria is that it must use words.

There are some big name authors which I read and didn’t enjoy, just like everyone else. E/lit/ists will masturbate over their knowledge of classical works, but in the end, what truly matters is the inspiration you get from written works. It does not matter if it’s YA, pretentious /lit/ drivel, preschooler books, or classical authors. What do (You) enjoy? Enjoy it. That’s the core of art: subjectivity.

[Anonymous No.18108449]

>>18108409
Easy way to tell what good writing is. Give someone a manuscript and if you have to pry it from their hands with pliers then it's good writing.
Wow that was fucking hard. Well unless you're a pseud or misunderstood genius that is waiting for their own death to be revealed to the world.
I swear sometimes this board is beyond frustrating, it's like you fuckers have never read a book.

[Anonymous No.18108450]

>>18108424
Right, because people genuinely trying to post their work and responding to criticism when it's actually delivered is worse than using meaningless internet buzzwords and irritating degenerate anime girl gifs. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.18108462]

>>18108449
That's nonsense though. I don't agree with that. So good writing is fifty shades of grey or brandon sanderson? So is fast food quality food? Is autotuned pop music quality music?

[Anonymous No.18108463]

>>18108420
It could be plenty of time, depending on how long your chapters are since they can be as short or long as you want. A good puzzle should be solvable by the reader, even if they have to write everything down on paper to solve it. You can set up a description of the room, the puzzle and game, and the stakes in less than 500 words, and spend the next 3500 forcing them to solve the puzzle and play the game.

[Anonymous No.18108468]

>>18108424
>phoneposter
>/vt/ gif
You are the enemy of /lit/.

[Anonymous No.18108484]

>>18108418
Yeah, it's funny to see great book from great authors getting shit on. I recommend doing the same thing from time to time, it's fun. Helps you to understand what kind of people post here.

[Anonymous No.18108489]

>>18108484
I've always assumed that it's people who read Brandon Sanderson, watch Death Note and play video games. 16-18 year olds.

[Anonymous No.18108492]

>>18108489
What's wrong with Sanderson?

[Anonymous No.18108494]

>>18108450
Anon, you’re throwing a bitch fit over some critique.

[Anonymous No.18108499]

>>18108462
If people don't want to read your shit, throw it in the trash because it won't have any other use.
You don't even have to write for the normie audience, pick your damn focus group, you're guaranteed to find purchase unless your writing is complete schlock.
Want a good example that fucks up your misconceptions? Tolkien never expected LotR to be popular, because it's a dry and slow "novel" that doesn't appeal to the general public. But he was a good writer so it sold like bread anyway. That's the difference. Nobody's telling you to slit your wrist and write pulp fiction.

[Anonymous No.18108503]

>>18108492
And there we go. This is why it's pointless posting work here. I'm not even being sarcastic or facetious or even needlessly hostile. I shouldn't even have to say why a hack writer who writes anime-tier fiction full of "magic systems" is bad.

[Anonymous No.18108516]

>>18108503
God, you’re such a pretentious pseud. Keep living in obscurity while other anons are taking advantage of emerging markets.

[Anonymous No.18108517]

>>18108100
Having read a chapter of this, I'm convinced that it was mostly written by a machine, and the litrpg elements were just inserted to distract readers from that. I want to try doing this, too; I just need a story idea that I don't care about at all but like enough to spend a few hours editing every week.

[Anonymous No.18108526]

>>18108517
How do I write with deep learning machines?
I want to create litrpg shit massively for retards to read and give me money.

[Anonymous No.18108530]

>>18108516
The fact you think it's good and virtuous to take advantage of emerging markets tells me you have literally no artistic integrity. I'd rather write for 100 people than a million. But I guess that edgy and cringe sentiment makes me a "try-hard pseud". Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.18108531]

>>18107996
>keep it simple

[Anonymous No.18108534]

>>18108499
>write with intention and earnesty
everyone done been knew

[Anonymous No.18108535]

>>18108526
AI Dungeon and Shortly are the only two I know of. AI Dungeon honestly seems to give better results, but Shortly has a better interface, so pick your poison.

[Anonymous No.18108547]

>>18108530
It does, but the first step of overcoming a problem is admitting it. So, tell us, why do you hate authors who use emerging markets to their advantage?

[Anonymous No.18108551]

>>18108517
It has too much protagonist wankey and wish fulfillment to be generated
No, it's pure, unadulterated anime at it's finest
And it makes the money it deserves for it
Reminder that if your story doesn't have a harem, video game mechanics and a complete lack of theme then it's officially not anime and NGMI

[Anonymous No.18108553]

>>18108535
"Pfft, that's nothing special. I saw a griffin once." You say.
"No, no, a Griffin is a bird of prey, this was different. It was as big as a midsized ship and it had six wings." Warts says.
"I've only seen a Griffin once. They're rare." You remark.
"Reardency, you need to start paying more attention! Now let's try that again." Warts say.
"Fine, but be careful with my ears."
"Pfft, you're just shy." Warts says as he sticks his large ears in his mouth.
You continue working in your field for the rest of the day and into the next.
On the third day of working in your field, you begin to get thirsty around noon. Normally you'd go to the well to get a drink, but it's been taken over by a group of orcs. You remember seeing them carry the wooden bucket full of water into the field the day before.
There's a small stream running through field that you can take a drink from. It's not ideal, because it means walking a good distance away from your field and into another, but it's better than nothing.
You grab a large jug of water from over the door of your farmhouse and head over to the stream.
As you approach the trees, you begin to hear loud voices and laughter.

what do you think of my new book bros

[Anonymous No.18108555]

>>18108547
Because I don't see simply getting something published as being indicative of any kind of skill or talent. If I wrote LITRPG and got it published, I'd genuinely think nothing of it. Litrpg is for braindead gamers.

[Anonymous No.18108556]

>>18108530
give it a rest he is clearly trolling

>>18108404
that response to norwegian wood was valid

[Anonymous No.18108566]

>>18108553
Send us your patreon, I want to support you!

[Anonymous No.18108567]

>>18108555
And yet, for all of your negative talk, you languish in obscurity, while those who write LITRPG, or anime, have managed to carved themselves a nice niche market, with thousands of dollars.

[Anonymous No.18108579]

>>18108553
That's GPT-2, isn't it? You gotta paypig for the GPT-3 stuff.

[Anonymous No.18108580]

>>18108553
fun everyman dialogue
clear and concise character voice
plain, soulless, script-like prose

how does it make you feel that the average /wg/ excerpt/chapter is worse than this?

[Anonymous No.18108588]

>>18108567
So in this post you're just repeating benefits from writing shit fiction that the person you're talking to has already expressed as being essentially worthless to them. Your rebuttal to my post was about not wanting to write in an abysmal genre just for money was, "lel faggot you'll never get thousands of dollars just for writing LITRPG".

[Anonymous No.18108595]

>read your old story
>it's so good you have no idea how you could write that
>read your current stories
>it's like written by an amateur
Am I getting worse month by month? What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.18108614]

>>18108595
show someone else and your self opinion will likely be washed away
or you'll be affirmed and you'll have to spot the difference on where you fucked up
either way show someone what your proud of

[Anonymous No.18108620]

>>18108614
But don't do it here because this will happen
Poster: Here's my work
"Critique": lel this is convoluted obscure trash
Poster: Please explain why.
"Critique: stfu you pseud, stop thinking you're amazing. because you're not

[Anonymous No.18108626]

>>18108620
God, even in defeat you’re a bitch. Here, read this book from a /lit/ author who achieved more than you ever will.

[Anonymous No.18108635]

>>18108249
I didn't feel strongly about your piece one way or another but I feel your pain. Square pegs sitting comfortably in square holes don't appreciate it when someone drives by with a rhombus. I write utter and abject nonsense when left to my own devices, and for the record, you're likely getting hit with a lot of redirected flak produced and readied for my own next bombing run... which is coming. It's just not coming today.

Keep fighting the good fight, anon. Trust in your artistic vision. The pendulum is going to swing away from the paint-by-Hemingway crowd sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.18108641]

>>18108620
If I want critique I'll pay actual professionals, not ask some teenagers on lit

[Anonymous No.18108644]

>>18108620
get over yourself
here's a reading exercise that will improve your editing process
read the inane bullshit you've posted and construct a character and motive from it
I know it's your weakest skill but try to distance your self ego and internal intentions and focus solely on what you're communicating through your words

[Anonymous No.18108656]

>>18108553
Reads like this.

[Anonymous No.18108670]

>>18108641
>If I want critique
you better be a fucking literary giant who has many published works under his belt because otherwise you need critique
I doubt you've achieved a writing nirvana state where you're unbound by your own perceptions. don't post it on /wg/ if you're autistic but at least show some of your more critically minded friends and loved ones

[Anonymous No.18108684]

>>18108644
I already said the Egret story isn't what I usually write. Here's a few sentences from one story that is going to be published and another that received some pretty good comments and wasn't just a form rejection. Most of my stuff is all character and no action.

He wore white shirts, white trousers, white everything. He made me do the same. The sound of the vacuum cleaner was a near constant in the house, as was the clatter of dishes—dishes which had been cleaned three, four times already. It was the sound of cutlery to which I awoke, and which remained as I put on my spotless clothes. I forced myself to avoid looking at the forest again and, with a sigh, opened the door. As I put my feet to the creamy carpeted landing, I moved methodically, regretting with every step the impressions I made. Downstairs in the kitchen I greeted my father with a solemn, half-audible sound. If the upstairs was loathsome, the kitchen I hated most of all. Walking into that space was like entering another world. I could scarcely look at any of the appliances or furniture tops without wanting to tear out my eyes. In this antiseptic domain, over which my father had absolute sovereignty, the smell of bleach and the sheen of cold metal was all-pervasive.

My father nodded to me over his breakfast of butterless toast. I took a seat and watched him cut up the toast into the smallest possible squares. When this was achieved, he lifted the morsel daintily to his mouth, hesitating a long while before swallowing it in one clean gulp.

---

An ache throbbed in Ort’s brain, a line of sweat tickled his cheek. His eye twitched as images flashed in series, of interrupted peace, of measured breathing exercises. The ones recommended by his therapist before the change of name and change of place. He tried those techniques now. He must’ve forgotten how to do it because it didn’t work. There was that laugh again. The inane drum and clap. His strained gaze fell on someone who looked a lot like Mr. Addison, a man he’d never forgotten, a man from before, with the same ridiculously smug and carefree grin.
[skip]
It started off harmless enough. He upended a table, knocked a few bottles. Everyone froze stiff, even the kids bouncing on the bouncy castle. Murmurs quickly developed into frightened accusations of a ghostly overtaking. Well, he’d make the acts of a poltergeist look like cheap tricks; he’d turn their pampered, untroubled lives upside down, bring the dark magic twists of Othertown upon them. He clambered over fallen chairs to reach a pearl-earringed woman, whispered what the worms said when they lowered the coffins. Into another ear he breathed a line from a certain ebony book and the listener fell away in a faint. Then he grabbed the baseball bat which they’d used for the piñata and beat Addison’s shins with it.

[Anonymous No.18108694]

>>18108656
>an accidental car
kek. apparently this script was made a bot too.

[Anonymous No.18108695]

Can’t believe I’m saying this, but this is the worst /wg/ thread. A real accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.18108707]

>>18108694
No, that's just the way it's presented; it's part of the shtick. There are at least a couple more of these and they're written by humans.

[Anonymous No.18108713]

>>18108684
not bad pseud anon
the second excerpt is far worse compared to the first but it's got charm
don't be such a frail bitch, you're writing is clearly competent. have some more confidence and sperg out less

[Anonymous No.18108714]

You guys ever finish a section of your story, feel pride in it, then look at the antagonist setup and realize you've got a lot of work ahead of you?

[Anonymous No.18108725]

>>18108713
I'm not him, but this is what's so tiresome about you guys. Everything is some kind of extended litmus test, and it's all just bullshit for your own amusement. He wanted criticism on his writing, not some kind of evaluation on his cosmic Writing Competence as evaluated by completely anonymous strangers on the internet.

[Anonymous No.18108730]

>>18108725
not him, but feel free to set an example

[Anonymous No.18108738]

>>18108684
Well that style contrasts completely with the first. Are you trying to jump from mundane to eternal glory? Because that's what it seems like. I mean good on you for trying but it seems like you're jumping from one thing into another for which you don't have much practice or perspective.

Just don't cry in pain when people don't like what you write. I don't see the point in posting it unless you want feedback.

[Anonymous No.18108750]

>>18108725
/crit/'s are effort posts and generally not worth it when:
the writing is a tiny excerpt,
your impression of the writing is shitty,
when the posters personality is shitty

he autistically responded to every opinion instead of just letting it drop and moving on
/crit/ was such garbage because 90% of people who ask for critiques have completely fucked and obnoxious personalities

[Anonymous No.18108755]

>>18108738
Both are dark fantasies. The first one is unrelentingly melancholy and the second one is somewhat Burtonesque. I have to ask, why does every story an author writes need to be the same? Brian Evenson wrote sci-fi, stuff about Mormons self-amputating, Halloween ghosts, film directors... >>18108713
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18108777]

>>18108755
I meant compared to the pseud salad posted earlier >>18107978
The two excerpts are fairly similar in tone. Maybe I'm misunderstanding and you didn't write both posts.

[Anonymous No.18108815]

>>18108755
>why does every story an author writes need to be the same?
>it seems like you're jumping from one thing into another for which you don't have much practice or perspective.
not at all what he's implying
practice gives perspective. practice more and you'll be able to branch out more
reading comp bro come on
if you're writing something unfamiliar to you then expect it to be kind of shitty and clumsy. that's part of the learning process

[Anonymous No.18108816]

I made all my female characters in Koikatsu so I can sexually f*ck them.

[Anonymous No.18108831]

>>18108777
Oh, sorry. I wrote all three.

[Anonymous No.18108891]

>>18108018
If I had to make a point on this it would be that it's rather hard to tell exactly who your POV character is. I'm assuming that they're all young teenagers living outside of or after society and making their own savage order. They fight each other while being "kept down" by an outside, adult/cruel older teen group.
It's a bit hard to tell that though until halfway through the excerpt when they start blushing and crying. A grown man can be a master and order boys around or be carried on a pavilion by burly teens, just like a grown man can smirk. Teenagers have their tells and they're frequently giving them off, if you want to sell a young protagonist then he needs to act like one, Tiberius is nebulous until you show him emoting like a dramatic teenager. Maybe flesh out the inner dynamics of the group so you don't have these ill-defined "boys" and "teenagers." Personally that muddled me up more than your choice of words.
Other than that I would have read it as a young man. I know that writing dialogue is very hard but your could do with some work in this piece. It was stiff and confusing, even when you described Tiberius as a schemer nothing resembling a character came through in his or his soon to be ex-boss' dialogue.

The art reminded me of Arrowwood's album covers, worth a look if you like dark folk. That's all from me.

[Anonymous No.18108985]

>>18107996
What's wrong with attire?

[Anonymous No.18108989]

>>18107881
Parrot more, bitch

[Anonymous No.18109013]

>>18108750
>ask for critiques have completely fucked and obnoxious personalities
From my point of view, you're the obnoxious one.

[Anonymous No.18109059]

>>18108259
what do you write?

[Anonymous No.18109160]

>>18109013
t. got an offhanded opinion he didn't like
it is but a little shit posting my dear anon
and if it's the low effort responses to critique bait that you take issue with, well,
to that I can only say;
Just Write

[Anonymous No.18109202]

(1/2) It was in that shadow-world between waking and dreaming - the half-reality where logic remains suspended but lucidity returns, that Tarci saw a giant tick crawl out of his floor. It was the size of a terrier, its white, bulbous body gleaming in the dark. He tried to shout, but his throat was caught in a paroxysm of fear. He was lying on his front on the floor, head turned to the side. The tick sat motionless about two metres to his right. Its eight legs clutched the carpet, clownishly arranged at the front of its shrunken abdomen. Small white hairs covered its slick surface. It was the most revolting thing Tarci had ever seen.

He tried to move, but his limbs refused to budge. The tick’s mouth parts began to twitch. He tried again, but only succeeded in fluttering his fingers. The tick turned to face him, moving with erratic jerks. It paused, then scuttled along the floor towards his face. Tarci’s voice became unstuck, and he began to scream. Excited by the noise, the tick grasped his head with its forelegs, and began climbing up onto his back, its underside sliding a trail of mucus through his hair. His screams tore at his throat, punctuated by gasps for air. The foul insect crawled around his back, selecting the softest skin, then stopped with its head hovering over Tarci’s liver. It stroked the skin, and then, with a wet scraping sound, began to dig its mandibles into his flesh, burrowing its head into his back. The pain was excruciating. For a few seconds the harsh chomping drowned out Tarci’s voice, then the tick stopped, its head firmly embedded in Tarci’s body. The pain faded, replaced by an overwhelming sensation of nausea. As his screams transformed into retches of disgust, a hideous sucking noise began to emanate from within him. The tick was feeding on his blood. It had invaded his body and begun to steal, forcing him into an abhorrent congress.

He watched as the colour faded from his skin, replaced with a translucent grey. The tick grew in weight, pushing down on his spine and crushing him into the floor. Slowly the movement began to return to his limbs, but the tick had become too heavy, and he could only twist his neck round and watch as its body ballooned into the space above them, filling the room with its creamy expanse. It pushed against the ceiling with a rubberised squeak, the colossal envelope sliding into the crannies of the apartment.

[Anonymous No.18109207]

>>18109202
(2/2) Finally it had finished, its stomach swollen with blood, and it pulled its head out of Tarci’s back with a schluck. It maneuvered its body off his, and he was forced aside as it strained against the confines of the room. Finally, having eased itself into the middle of the floor, it began to crawl back into the ground. The white skin of its turgid abdomen sank beneath the carpet like a sail abandoned to the waves. The matter of the world shifted to allow this visitor to pass, then closed off the orifice that yawned in its wake, discharging the foul alien back to its origin.

Tarci sobbed into the silence, watching its exit through the now-transparent flesh of his hands. He cried himself back to the haven of deep sleep, and his memory of the awful scene dissolved into nothingness.

[Anonymous No.18109269]

>>18109202
>Began to scream
Only beginner writers use the word began. It's meaningless.
>The pain was excruciating
Telling instead of showing. Plebshit.
>Abhorrent congress
lolol kys faggot why are you using lol convoluted words when small ones would work better.

I thought the piece was alright. It does have some issues (see above). I just thought I should critique this in the /lit/ manner since that's evidently the accepted way is to be toxic and hostile for no reason from the start and then get even more toxic when someone takes issue with the toxicness.

[Anonymous No.18109278]

>>18109202
>>18109207
Well, I for one hate all blood sucking creatures on planet Earth, so you got an automatic "good shit" from me.

[Anonymous No.18109297]

>>18108033
My webnovel has a good stopping point for a first book/volume.

[Anonymous No.18109303]

>>18109269
thanks for the crit, friend!

'Began to scream' is specifically chosen because it sounds a bit odd -- like an activity that he's taking part in.

>pain
Yeah I'd like to find a better way of writing this.

>abhorrent congress
Chosen specifically for sexual connotations. Do you have a better suggestion for 'abhorrent'?

>>18109278
ta

[Anonymous No.18109306]

>>18108499
I don't like shit like LotR or ToTC because it takes too long for those stories to get interesting and I have the attention span of a goldfish. I can recognize something as quality even if I don't enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.18109317]

>>18108551
I prefer reading rote garbage like SAO to good literature

[Anonymous No.18109327]

>>18109207
>foul
>awful scene
you do a good job of communicating the foulness already. you dont need to tell us it was foul after youve shown it. adjectives like that lessen the impact imo but only those bothered me cuz they felt repetitive.
>He cried himself back to the haven of deep sleep, and his memory of the awful scene dissolved into nothingness.
this might be more of a personal preferance but after a scene like that with lots of panic and sound, the waking up should feel like the silence after a storm has happened so the sentence should be as simple as possible to be in contrast with the chaos. like "he cried himself to sleep" but maybe thats too simple and yours is okay

[Anonymous No.18109335]

>>18109202
I don't like the paragraph that describes the tick's journey and burrowing. You tow a line between terse and descriptive. It feels like you want to avoid repetitiveness and are interjecting variation
The sentence structure of
>entity
>action
is broken up in such a way that it feels stilted

>a hideous sucking noise began to emanate from within him. The tick was feeding on his blood.
Not sure whether to laff or be in disbelief. This sentence marks a transition to a hyperbolic absurdity, which I like but this sentence doesn't bridge the previous action and the coming surrealism very well

>>18109269
Stop being such a seething mental manlet

[Anonymous No.18109352]

>>18108409
>Everyone should have IDs.
>>>Reddit
Really, there's already dozens of places with IDs and usernames.

[Anonymous No.18109369]

>>18108424
Behead VTubers and their sympathizers.

[Anonymous No.18109374]

>finally finish your project
>don't know what to do with yourself, don't have to work on Monday
What am I going to do now?
Normally i write the whole night but now I just don't know...

[Anonymous No.18109381]

>>18107863
>Any progress on your novels?
Yes, I'm done now. I was never going to become the next Faulkner, the next Nabokov or the next Joyce, but I hid behind the language barrier to avoid criticism for months, maintaining an illusion that was fun to live in while it lasted. I had thought my country's education system was topmost in the world, but this turned out to be utter bollocks. A child of 18, a person ten years my junior, has a greater vocabulary than I, who had to look up the word “topiary”, and no one likes the expression theory of art anymore, I am likened to a long lost dinosaur.
This will be my final post on /lit/. I've been humiliated and exposed as a fraud. My writing is pretentious, infantile, banal drivel. My observations are dull, my language grade school level. My tenses are mixed up; I use colloquialisms, ellipses and onomatopoeia. I mix tired and trite idioms together to obfuscate their unoriginality with a veneer of irony; I have continued to recite ornate Jewish chimpanzee parables with diminishing returns. The parable seemed very clearly to me to be asking me whether or not the now-grown-adult can choose. I say yes, of course, but that's not my issue.
I was never cut out for writing. I began writing my "book" on January 6th. Since then I've produced 82 thousand words for it. These words are a tide of garbage without value, without insight, without form. The themes of time, space, infinity, memory and pointless duelling are not present in my work. It was never real writing, it was anime and weebshit. Look how many words I wrote, because apparently literature is bodybuilding and just aimlessly typing will somehow improve my writing. I don't even know what genre it is that I'm writing. Is it autofiction? A comedy? A picaresque?
Regardless, I have failed. I have put down my pen. Never again will my fingers click-clack across the keyboard. No more outlines, no more characters. Goodbye

[Anonymous No.18109382]

>>18108033
I’ve written three.
Now, successfully revised them ...

[Anonymous No.18109383]

>>18109374
write a short story
read and ponder new ideas for your next project
post what you just finished

[Anonymous No.18109395]

How do you find research material /wg/?

[Anonymous No.18109408]

>>18109381
there's something poetic about immortalizing the defeated anon who felt that he would never write anything of worth
>Look how many words I wrote, because apparently literature is bodybuilding and just aimlessly typing will somehow improve my writing.
shitty fan fiction that undermines the original voice, remove this

[Anonymous No.18109458]

>>18109408
There's something poetic about trying to ape a literal ESL and being emasculated by his pasta prose

[Anonymous No.18109459]

>>18109381
>had to look up the word “topiary
I have no idea what this word means
Traditionally published author here

[Anonymous No.18109461]

>>18108375
A Anon posted Dunsany last thread and I had no idea until he admitted he only posted it because he thought this was write what's in your mind.

[Anonymous No.18109514]

>>18109395
If I really have to, I just do a quick Google search. It usually does the trick.

[Anonymous No.18109525]

>>18109514
what if the subject isn't mainstream?

[Anonymous No.18109528]

>>18109395
i play a lot of video games and then credit some obscure history book when people ask lol

[Anonymous No.18109537]

>>18109395
What kind of research? This is probably going to annoy the purists, but for me:
>for overarching themes
Movies
>for inspiration
Daydreams, snippets, phrases I like in every day life, sections from video game cutscenes or TV shows
>for settings and concepts
Anime, original miniseries
>for style/prose
Myriad of books by different authors from different time periods
>for grammar and syntax
Occasional "brush ups" through my grammar reference books
>for historical/real life accuracies
Google

[Anonymous No.18109542]

>>18109528
If you ever had to write a character with an intellect much higher than yours, how would you even tackle the problem? The closest i can think of is maybe thinking 30 times about what he'd do in just a quick choice.

[Anonymous No.18109545]

>>18109525
are you retarded or something? you do research by doing research, find it and read it and follow citations... everything has something written about it in detail

[Anonymous No.18109553]

>>18109327
>>18109335
thanks

[Anonymous No.18109557]

>>18109537
pleb tier but gmi strategy
engaging with the things you like makes the work easier
the best answer to >>18109395
is to just consoom as much as possible of what you like because you'll absorb it well. the sheer volume will help to immerse your thoughts and develop good conclusions

[Anonymous No.18109560]

>>18109383
violates one of the global rules so I can't sorry

[Anonymous No.18109567]

>>18109408
Unironically it will if you take breaks to analyze where you can improve in between

[Anonymous No.18109615]

>>18109557
Yeah I'm pleb tier guy but this is what I was getting at. The more media you consoom, the better. At the least, it exposes you to plenty of writing styles you can learn from for better or worse

[Anonymous No.18109620]

>>18109537
All kinds honestly. I need to research about feline gods, and gods of order, but google ain't doing it for those, and I don't really have anywhere I can physically go such as a museum. And I also think it'd be prudent to look at how other authors approach these two themes.
>>18109545
>everything has something written about it in detail
Haha, no. And I'll give you a quick example. How much a person's mobility becomes impaired when using a sword rather than dagger. Simple question. Simple subject. When traversing different types of terrain, how much does a sword hinders movement compared to a dagger?

[Anonymous No.18109628]

>>18109395
Library, .edu sites. What is your subject about if you don't mind telling?

[Anonymous No.18109650]

>>18109560
Which one are you being anal about? If it's the shill one then it should be fine so long as it isn't a paid product right?

[Anonymous No.18109661]

>>18109542
That's a pretty good question and I don't know why you're asking me but I'll give it a ramble. As it happens, I'm a weak little man with no exceptional skills so all of the characters I write are smarter and better than me.
I think it's pretty easy to see when someone has written a smart character poorly. Right the smart guy figures out all of the problems the story throws at him entirely on his own and then his companions jack him off over how smart he is. What a lot of people have forgotten about Sherlock Holmes is that, as smart as he was, he and Watson were team. They each had their own skills and contributed to the cases they solved in their own ways.
Another thing people forget is that Holmes didn't successfully solve every case. Being smart isn't a superpower. Having a higher intellect doesn't suddenly make you some master of all trades all at once. Some of the dumbest people I know are smart. You still have to work for every victory, and even then, you might still lose.
So the way I would write a smart character would be no different from the way I'd write a stupid character. Everyone has their own skills and those skills should help them fit into the role they're meant to serve in the story. Maybe a smart character is better at what he does then anyone else, but that strength should come at the cost of being weak in other areas.
So do a little bit of research into how the subjects your character is good at works and you're good to go. I should clarify too, no one wants to read technobabble. If you have a character who is good at Astrophysics, it's more important to know HOW an astrophysicist uses their knowledge than WHAT an astrophysicist knows. The audience doesn't need to know the exact orbit of some far-off planet, but they do need to know that your main character used Kepler's Laws to figure it out.
You don't need to be an expert, you just need to know the basics. But I would bet being an expert helps too.

[Anonymous No.18109664]

>>18109650
No Anthro

[Anonymous No.18109695]

>>18109661
Huh, you just gave me an idea, the best way to write a character who is smarter than you is to read and research about the thought process of people who are smarter than you.

[Anonymous No.18109709]

>>18109620
Cat/ order gods ok try shin megami tensei wiki has a long list of gods. Yokai like nekomata come to mind.
-the mythology of cats (book)
-cats in eygpt with ISIS and bastet

[Anonymous No.18109715]

>>18109303
>Chosen specifically for sexual connotations
Are there sexual connotations to "abhorrent congress"?

[Anonymous No.18109724]

>>18109715
Sexual congress is another term for intercourse.

[Anonymous No.18109733]

>>18109664
There's a Anon here who writes with bird people I think you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.18109744]

>>18109709
The problem I'm having with the feline gods is that have you seen just how bad the sources for them are in wikipedia? Most of them are either from egypt or south america. And the information on them is awfully sparse.

Gods of order are even more complicated because I don't even know if there's such a thing, the greek mythology dealt with more abstract themes with Chronos being the god of time and Nyx being the eternal night, as well as obviously Chaos, but what is there about order as a concept as itself? In a sense every god except Chaos and Nyx serve Order, but it's weird no god embodies it.

[Anonymous No.18109749]

>>18109724
Even with that knowledge I still don't think I'd make that leap reading that particular excerpt.

[Anonymous No.18109768]

>>18109620
>>18109744
For gods, there's always the classic Edith Hamilton's Mythology. When it comes to specific authors, you'll probably want to think about what you might find those things in, then go into that genre and look. It'll take some effort for sure, especially with the volume of work out there.
For your example, have you thought about reaching out to online communities such as swordsmanship forums or Facebook groups? And I guess you could also do the same for the gods questions, just email professors who are experts in those fields and ask.
>>18109695
There's a great screencap about the differences between Anton Chigur and BBC's Sherlock that I thought illustrates the difference between a smart character and a "smart" character.

[Anonymous No.18109778]

>>18109768
please post the screencap

>>18109744
there are gods of justice if nothing else

[Anonymous No.18109799]

>>18109778
I knew I didn't have it on my phone___, but thankfully Google delivered.

[Anonymous No.18109844]

>>18109744
Yokai are Japanese. On the other matter try the fairy faith by evan wentz there multiple gods depicted there.

[Anonymous No.18109865]

>>18109768
>For your example, have you thought about reaching out to online communities such as swordsmanship forums or Facebook groups?
Yes actually, if I didn't live in a third world shithole I'd be all up in HEMA to study more about white weapons. The question I posed came up when I recently watched a shadversity video where he mentions the pros of a dagger, that being, fighting an armored enemy. It suddenly dawned on me how possibly useful these could be if you were fighting a creature with natural armor, but of course a poignant question is, if a creature has a soft spot on the sides, just how much better would a dagger be at helping a combatant position himself to the sides of an opponent? That then led to another question, if messagers were commonly targeted for their holdings while they traverse a large city, similar to Mirror's Edge, wouldn't they also carry daggers if they had to use parkour?

The videos I found on mobility present the difference between amount and type of armor, but with different people, making it useless as a test of the armor influence, and that is not to mention, I don't remember them carrying weapons.
>There's a great screencap about the differences between Anton Chigur and BBC's Sherlock
>>18109799
that is greatly appreciated.

>>18109844
Would Yokai be on the same level of a god? Does the Japanese mythology features ascension into godhood like the chinese mythology?

[Anonymous No.18109869]

I wrote a short story and wanted to get some anonymous feedback. I know you guys won't bullshit me.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c9GgbWj0D1M_aRTUQ0KehXhWbTD8lbW-YSlgj7WF_KE/edit?usp=drivesdk

It's about a bartender that talks to a ghost.

[Anonymous No.18109944]

>>18109869
>I am not a vintner after all just a distiller.

[Anonymous No.18109955]

>>18109869
Is this pasta? Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.18109959]

>>18109869
If I open this... will you be able to see my email address

[Anonymous No.18109962]

>>18109955
No I just have a very lame sense of humour.

[Anonymous No.18109968]

>>18109869
>The virgin snow crushed beneath my feet. A percussion to the serenades of the winter winds. I wandered through the busy concert hall. Trees moshing as gently as one could. Less of a mosh and more of a sway. Unlike the dive I spent my nights, there was no sense of hostility. This was still a dive, nonetheless. I wasn't a fan of nature. In fact, I despised being outdoors. I would much rather be at work hearing the ramblings of those society have left behind than hiking. I was a fan of stories, it's one of the reasons I opened the bar at all. That and the fact that my family had a long history of bootlegging our own liquors. "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a man a drink he'll tell you all he has to say," was a line my grandfather instilled in me at a young age. I was the first one to capitalize on this concept in a monetary nature.

[Anonymous No.18109972]

>>18109733
Most of my stuff is kinda low effort any way, and my most recent story is greentext that errs more on the side of pulp fiction than high art. It's what I like to do though, so maybe I'll drop a link after I fix it up a little.

[Anonymous No.18109977]

Anons should read my story about forced circumcision instead

>“Cir-cum-cision! Cir-cum-cision! Cir-cum-cision!”

>The chant grew in volume as more bodies joined the march through downtown. Each person was organized according to the new hierarchy: Ls at the front, followed by Gs, Bs, and so on. Members of the Laboring Class, discovering the march just then, ran over for an easy +150 social credits and were handed a pair of scissors specially ordered from a Chinese labor camp last month.

>Cars smashed into each other, drivers tumbling over asphalt then picking themselves up, vomiting soi, smiling, deaf to the sound of crashing metal and glass to join the march. The day of the shortskins had begun.

https://woland.substack.com/p/shortskin-revolution

[Anonymous No.18109978]

>>18109869
It's terrible, you have nothing to say

[Anonymous No.18109994]

>>18109865
Ascension for the royal family yes. Yokai are more like spirits/ghosts. Oh also theres barong vs rangda in Indonesian lore standard order vs chaos.

[Anonymous No.18110026]

>>18109869
Never write again you stupid little bitch

[Anonymous No.18110039]

>>18109994
That's complicated, I have a place for spirits on the mythology I'm writing already, Yokai cannot then be put on the same category as gods. Wait are you saying ONLY the royal family can become gods? Isn't that something that's not original from the Shinto religion? I remember reading that the shinto religion didn't originally put so much emphasis on the emperor.

[Anonymous No.18110063]

>>18109865
I've got great respect for your attempt to get a realistic as possible view of combat against armored opponents, mostly because I'm writing a medieval fantasy right now and these questions are worth asking. I hope you find what you're looking for.
>>18109869
You've got a knack for wordplay. I liked it. It felt reasonably stiff though, and I couldn't tell if that's the intention or your style. For the subject matter, I was expecting something a little less dry in terms of sentence composition. The concept was cool.

[Anonymous No.18110072]

>>18109869
This was so gay and bad

[Anonymous No.18110073]

>>18109869
That was great, could almost hear the guitar, just the first paragraph maybe lacked a bit of structure. And a few missed typos. Congrats.
I'd read your stuff again.

[Anonymous No.18110080]

>>18109869
Worst thing I've ever read

[Anonymous No.18110090]

>>18110063
>I've got great respect for your attempt to get a realistic as possible view of combat against armored opponents
I'm not really sure how realistic it'll be, but it's so fun reading and learning about these things. When you start asking questions, the elements just seem to weave themselves into reality. For example, the negative effect of daggers is their reach, but there are quite a few guys who are fast enough to catch arrows in the air, or cut pellets with a sword, I wonder if someone where trained to dodge swords, just how effective daggers could really be.

[Anonymous No.18110111]

>>18110073
Samefag

[Anonymous No.18110118]

>>18110111
or someone with awful taste

[Anonymous No.18110154]

>>18110090
In coincidence, I'm about to write a scene where two kings throw down the gauntlet and one of them is fast enough to dodge an "unexpected" sword strike. I hadn't thought about whether a dagger could be hidden in someone's boot, or even under the plate armor in front of the chain mail. I know that when I write, when I stop to catch my breath and reread what I've done before, I catch myself asking a lot of questions. I always tell myself that if I can ask those questions, my readers can too, and therefore they should always be answered. It's helped steer me clear of a lot of poor characterization and plot direction mistakes.

[Anonymous No.18110162]

>>18109869
pile of shit

[Anonymous No.18110172]

>>18110026
You can never stop me.

>>18110063
Thanks. I was very uncertain the whole time writing. This is my first time not making schlock horror movies as a teenager. I love puns and wasn't sure if I should try to lay them on thick.

>>18110073
You should read more. Or don't so you won't know how shaky it all really is. Also listen to a guitar because I don't know what you heard.

>>18110080
I'll send you something to top that then.

[Anonymous No.18110182]

>>18110154
Well what armor are they using? Because you gotta know, swords are shit against armor unless there's fantasy, either magic or fantastical alloys, involved. Hell even Gambisons offer massive protection against swords. Combat back then was decided by who could throw the opponent on the ground first and then use it as an opportunity to attack the weak spots. Daggers killed more men in armor than swords.

[Anonymous No.18110208]

The usually calm and quiet midnight sky above the sleeping city of Lucrea slowly came to life as a mysterious light pierced through the clouds in the form of many rays; turning the once dark sky into a stage with spotlights seeming to take aim at the city below. The source of this light—a massive something—silently emerged from its blanket of clouds. It eased its way across the starless sky, eclipsing the moon with its titanic size. Shimmering with a brilliant light, it sailed through the sky, catching the eyes those who had begun to rouse from their slumber.

One by one, eyes found their way to the structure—those still caught in the whims of the night, the ones working late to save face or to keep grace, some peeping out their windows when they should be in bed—all enthralled in the faint red light humming in their eyes and ears. “What the hell is that?” from one man, and no one answered. No one had heard him. To everyone else, there was nothing but the structure; and as sound and light blended…no one could move.

The sky opened again, this time even wider, exposing an orange paste, dripping from its atmospheric skin like a sludge rain in colorful disguise. The air became contaminated with a chemical smell that burned nostrils and flared skin rashes. Small portions of the land and building were eaten up, and as people began to gain control—they scattered There was no shelter, any haven would dissolve, leaving them exposed to the shower, dissolved in the deluge. No roof could have prevented the executioner’s water gun from spraying acid into a city-wide panic. Nothing could dissipate the anger from the cultivation of universal wrongs. They cried out from the atomization of their selves, but their tongues were snapped back by the onslaught. Despite the pain, a cry rang out in the streets, a screaming heard to all and caused by those few with tongues and a basic function to make noise left—and it pierced everyone and they stopped moving for an instant and they felt more pain from the cries than from their flesh burning.

Before an hour had passed all of the life in the city had been gobbled up, and an orange glob existed in the place that moments ago held life and structure—and it pulsated, and it laughed, and there was more for it to do and to kill and the end of days was not a red fire in the trail of four horsemen but a flubber of amorphous orange that changes properties and bounces about gathering mass and fear. There will be no news of its attack, no warning to arrive. There were subtle quiets among the starry night as it unfolded, unsettled by points of violent genocide, and quiet once again placing peace in pieces in place.

[Anonymous No.18110228]

took my first shot at writing today; looking for some straight forward feedback. im sure obvious things come to mind, so spit it up! don't be too mean tho, i dont wanna be completly discouraged

[Anonymous No.18110258]

>>18109869
leave

[Anonymous No.18110267]

Has anyone seen the Lampward around here?

[Anonymous No.18110310]

>>18110182
I'm picturing the fight as more of "who can convince the other one to yield first" than "whose head gets lopped off", but you bring up good points. Earlier I'd written an officer in armor as getting his head cut off completely and that doesn't make any sense, like drawing a crooked sword from a crooked scabbard. When you're making a book as realistic as possible, every detail matters. Example, if a man is in leather armor and has a simple helmet to protect his head from arrows and debris, then he has more susceptibility to a sword than someone in armor with a full face visor and helmet.

[Anonymous No.18110336]

>>18110310
Well it depends on the type of sword, there was one type of sword that was pretty heavy and had a wide blade, it was pretty good at cutting off limbs, and if the head wasn't properly protected it could cut a head. Some types of armor had protection around the neck coming from the pauldrons, but that's not always the case.

[Anonymous No.18110410]

is anyone writing a novel that BTFO women?

[Anonymous No.18110559]

>>18110410
i don't know about btfoing women specificially but i did choose to have a barefoot female protagonist just so that i could torture her in all sorts of horrible ways

[Anonymous No.18110575]

>>18110559
foot fetish?

[Anonymous No.18110579]

>>18110575
absolutely not and under no circumstances do i ever wish to be affiliated with that egregious behavior

[Anonymous No.18110581]

>>18110579
I'll take that as a yes

[Anonymous No.18110635]

>>18110228
You seem to have opted out of full stops at the end of your dialogue. The dialogue itself doesn't really seem like anything real people would actually say. You repeat a lot of things but phrased in different ways. I don't have enough of a reason to care about these people and their lives and especially the main character's internal rambling.
The good news is that a lot of that will get better naturally the more you write. And read. Just keep an eye out for it.

[Anonymous No.18110958]

>>18108531
>using unnecessary big words makes it good
fuck off wojak faggot.

[Anonymous No.18111201]

>>18109695
>>18109768
>>18109799
How do I know who is smart or not?
How do I know if I'm smart or dumb? I'm not sure
I want to write a smart character
Would juxtaposing him to much dumber characters work? idk

[Anonymous No.18111294]

>>18111201
Writing a smart character takes some studying, but a cheap but effective tactic is letting the smart character make deductions and decisions that you set up in advance to turn out a certain way.
Think of a magic card trick. A magician in the audience knows when a double lift is made on the deck, just like he knows a bottom deal, a false shuffle, or a glide; he knows this because he has the tools or experience to recognize how a trick should be set up to work. However, the lay audience doesn't know this. The audience magician is smarter than the audience in this respect because he "knows" the trick, or at least how the performing magician is manipulating the deck. He can "see" what is actually happening to the deck but the audience can't. He's smarter than them.
This is why it's a cheap tactic. You're relying on your readers to believe in the magic trick of the smart character seemingly making magic happen, when in reality, he knows what's been going on from the first second of the trick and has the tools and know-how to put the puzzle pieces together while they don't.

[Anonymous No.18111335]

>>18110172
>You should read more. Or don't so you won't know how shaky it all really is. Also listen to a guitar because I don't know what you heard.
I know it's not perfection or even high caliber, but unlike so many works here it seemed like you had fun writing it. And that does translate.

[Anonymous No.18111424]

Has anyone else written a serial web novel? And if so, is it better to keep it up online for free, or take it down so I can self-publish on Amazon? I really don't want to hurt my donations.

[Anonymous No.18111460]

>>18111424
If you have any donations at all, I wouldn't consider putting my furshit OC gay porno on amazon easily.

[Anonymous No.18111463]

>>18111424
Is that yours? How anon?

[Anonymous No.18111496]

>>18107863

How to cope with the fact that you'll never be as good as other writers? I don't mean in general, there are some I can be better than, but I'll never hold a candle to the greats. Why try? I mean why try to actually become a writer, I'd write for myself anyway, but trying to publish it and putting it out there feels a bit pointless.

[Anonymous No.18111503]

>>18111463
Don't believe his lies. There's been a lot of this this thread, it's just a sample from someone else's patreon.
>>18108100
>>18108169
>>18108259

[Anonymous No.18111556]

>>18111463
>Is that yours?
Yeah, took a while to reach that point.

>How anon?
I just got extremely lucky, is how I would sum it up, for the most part. I'm also in other writing forums and communities, and I found a small group who liked my writing in it sort of grew from there. I also tend to post my work in multiple forums for multiple people to read, like Spacebattle, Sufficient Velocity, etc, etc. I also tend to subtly shill it on Reddit, and other forums who are looking for works that are similar in nature.

[Anonymous No.18111591]

I write horror short stories and such. A psychological horror set in a psychiatric ward? I did it.

https://youtu.be/kMT4lm_277A

[Anonymous No.18111657]

>>18108033
I've got five under my belt and many more to come.
...and in 3 hours I will sit down to watch YouTube girls and nobody can stop me. (Unless none of them are streaming today, then I guess I'll just work.)

[Anonymous No.18111693]

What's your general turnaround time for your novels and the average word count for each? I'm at 1.6 years on average for 140k words and I'm wondering how fast or slow this is.

[Anonymous No.18111694]

I just finished a story and now I have a GREAT idea for another one
I feel so excited and euphoric literally something is in my heart making it pound
I have to write holy shit

[Anonymous No.18111697]

>>18111424
I'm writing mine for free and will always intend for it to be free.

[Anonymous No.18111699]

>>18111294
That just sounds like what Sherlock did in that screencap example. He knew about the peanut allergy or whatever, but the audience didn't

[Anonymous No.18111708]

what kind of plot should erotica/porn story even have? I was thinking of a protagonist who wants to climb the corporate ladder by fucking rivals' wives/husbands to show dominance or something
tho I'm not sure if this is plausible enough not to break reader's suspension of disbelief

[Anonymous No.18111711]

>>18111503
Don’t be jealous of other anons’ success.

[Anonymous No.18111714]

>>18111699
In hindsight I explained it really poorly. My thought was, your character has the tools and experience they need to solve the puzzles even if the audience doesn't. And they should verbalize their thought process like revealing a magic trick.

[Anonymous No.18111733]

>>18111693
I average about a year between releases and I aim for 300 pages (150k words) each time. I'm bound by my heart so unfortunately for now I'm distracted by looking for love and not focusing like I should so things are slow but it should pick up after that hill is overcome. (I'm including time spent sending the work to the library of congress which can be a few weeks.)

[Anonymous No.18111734]

>>18111708
Doesn't have to be remotely plausible. In fact, 99% of literotica consumers are women and they don't enjoy anything that's remotely within the realm of possibility.

[Anonymous No.18111736]

>>18111708
I'm no expert but seems like erotica is read by mostly women, so I would doubt having more than one woman of the same importance in the story.

[Anonymous No.18111825]

>>18111708
Erotica is the most targeted literature. When you're writing erotica, you're looking to push one particular button. Not lots of buttons - one button. (For me? That's a very niche hypnosis fetish. Obviously, if you want to sell, you should pick a more generally-present button, like rape fantasies or displays of submission or etc.) You want to know the button you're pushing and you want to be able to push it repeatedly. The plot is there as an excuse to take your finger off of the button, but only so that you can put it down again. Just like if you were touching a woman (imagine,) you wouldn't just press on her clit and and leave your hand there, you would move about, increase and decrease pressure, and so on. So when people say, "in romance and erotica, the plot is an excuse," that is what they mean - it is an excuse to stop writing prose about the thing that your target reader enjoys, so that you may write for a short time about something else, so that they may be thrilled again (quickly) when the subject returns to their interest. This doesn't have to be in terms of paragraphs, and I feel it's best when sentences meant to reaffirm and remind the reader of their love of your chosen subject are woven between phrases referencing the larger plot.

All of that is to say in so many words that the synopsis of the plot matters less than your understanding of how to use the plot, and whether or not you personally feel that you can weave it into the erotic material in such a manner.

[Anonymous No.18111856]

>>18111825
>That's a very niche hypnosis fetish
What exactly is your niche? Asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.18111890]

>>18111335
I did thanks a lot. I'm happy I could make you feel that way.

[Anonymous No.18111899]

>>18111693
Took me about 9 months to do 155k words on the first volume or book or whatever you want to label it as. I'm about 102k words into the second volume since November. I only have 11wpm or so and procrastinate on anime and other hobbies, so I feel like my output is kinda low.

[Anonymous No.18111903]

>>18111856
Mostly the goofy western stage-show sort, and mostly /trash/. Honestly though, I haven't been writing much of it lately, so I've been here talking about the work-safe novels I'm actually writing instead of on /trash/. I've actually probably made a few thousand bucks doing it over the years without publishing anything on Amazon, and would have easily made more if I didn't hate doing commissions. It's fairly lucrative, if you can get a dedicated audience.

[Anonymous No.18111911]

I keep seeing shitty serial writers getting thousands of dollars a month to write 2.5k words a week. How is that possible?
The worst thing is that they don't even get better at writing. As time passes their prose worsen and their plots become longer and longer with no end in sight. I get it, of course you'd take your merry time to end your story if you were paid 5k a month, but how do patreon subs even put up with this shit?

Knowing that people with a minimal amount of experience and basic readable prose can actually live well by writing meme stories on a website and never get exposed for being a hack is really fucking with my head

[Anonymous No.18111917]

How to write a good story?

[Anonymous No.18111918]

>>18111899
Faster than my output, so you're doing well. How do you only type 11wpm? Is that when you're totally focused?

[Anonymous No.18111922]

Do you know your ending when you write? Or do you discover it along the way?
I think my best endings were made even before writing and then slowly premising and going for it since the beginning

[Anonymous No.18111924]

>>18111911
>2.5k words a week
Where are you seeing this? Most of the xboxhueg Patreons I see are attached to stories with 10k+ a week.

>>18111917
Read Story Genius.

[Anonymous No.18111932]

>>18111911
We write, you know, something pseuds rarely ever do.

[Anonymous No.18111971]

>>18111918
I wish I could give you a reliable answer. I've seen some sprint bots on writing botnets say it's 11wpm, but actual wpm sites may say its like ~50 wpm. I guess having a concise idea for a scene also hopes somtimes. I think I tend to also do line edits as I go along as well, since having unedited words laying about triggers me sometimes.

[Anonymous No.18111982]

>>18111922
My books have a mental scaffolding to it since it's going to be a lifelong series. X event has to happen in this book so I can build off of it in the next book.
So 100 pages intro, 100 pages meat and my main goal gets hit then about 100 pages winding down and setting up the next story.
Each book can be read and enjoyed as a one off, but they're all in the same universe.

[Anonymous No.18112004]

>>18111982
>climax at 2/3
christ

[Anonymous No.18112014]

>>18111924
Royalroad
>>18111932
I give you that, but
> we
Why are you a LARPfag?

[Anonymous No.18112016]

>>18107863
Starting up a scifi novel which will center around a social conflict between wokie cancel culture "leftists" going into a war with primitivists. Still working on some of the finer details, if I'm honest, I suck at putting conflict into action in a way that doesn't feel forced.

[Anonymous No.18112023]

>>18112016
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.18112038]

>>18112016
Hope it's a passion project and not a money one, anon

[Anonymous No.18112040]

>>18112014
I write, but I write an assortment of things, ranging from Erotica, fanfiction, to even some original works. Granted, most of them are just commissions. But anything to earn a honest living in today's society.

[Anonymous No.18112042]

>>18112016
Oh fuck off with this shit, there is no place for retarded new age politics in literature.

[Anonymous No.18112043]

Books about how to write a story about sucking dick and LOVING IT?

[Anonymous No.18112046]

>>18112004
I think my longest climax went to page 260 in a 310 page novel but during the final books it's obviously much more prominent while during the first parts I'm trying to build a fellowship with the cast and ease the reader in.
Is it perfect? No. Definitely not. However I do enjoy the practice.

[Anonymous No.18112048]

Books about cumming hard?

[Anonymous No.18112053]

>>18112043
Unironically look up reddit subreddits for writers. I lurk r/writing from time to time and every single day there are questions like
>how do i write lgbt???
>how to write a woman
>can i make x and y homotrasexual?
>can i start the book with lesbian orgy?? it's a serious book about not liking religion because mc's parents are religious and she is revolting she represents lgbtqipaer+!!

[Anonymous No.18112058]

>>18112042
On the contrary good sir, the new facets of personality we've seen can be used to create new character archetypes.

[Anonymous No.18112064]

>>18112053
Books about how to write a book about my gay asshole?

[Anonymous No.18112066]

>>18112023
Oh I didn't mean to imply the wokies are the good guys in that story. I fully intend to make them a crop of fucking creeps, as they are in real life, but finding redeeming features other than "full of love and acceptance" is really difficult. I actually am having more trouble writing all major parties in this story "gray" factions. Among them I really like how the primitivists are shaping up, although I did make them bigoted as fuck.

[Anonymous No.18112077]

>>18112066
oh, i meant that you will never be a writer

[Anonymous No.18112082]

>>18112038
It is. I have a regular job that makes me a decent amount of money.
>>18112042
I'm more trying to write something that is a mix of cyber and solar punk cultures which conflicts good and bad policies that each of those genres brings to the world. It's not that I want to promote any sort of culture war in any way. There's enough SJW literature out there (seriously look at NPR's top novels from 2020) that I don't want to do exactly the same shit everyone else is about.

[Anonymous No.18112092]

do you write fanfiction?

[Anonymous No.18112094]

>>18112077
No one here is going to be writers anyways, except for the animefags. Pseuds can’t take criticism of their work, and have to make themselves feel better in having “artistic integrity” to cope. Other people are just being themselves.

[Anonymous No.18112096]

>>18112040
>first sentence
I'm interested
>second sentence
Okay nevermind

[Anonymous No.18112103]

I want to write anime but literary

[Anonymous No.18112109]

>>18112096
Look, it what the guy who commission it wanted. I'm forced to oblige at his request. But, I can't complained, it pays good money.

[Anonymous No.18112117]

Taking sexual commissions is basically whoring yourself out. Sad that it's the only way to make a living.

[Anonymous No.18112138]

>>18112040
Unbelievable. That's some coomer shit if I've ever seen one. I thought it was about some guy fooling around with a real cat and dog by the way it was written. Some furry shit of the highest level. Fortunately for my guilty boner, I take this is about animal-eared anime girls, right?
>>18112082
Nice then. I'd advise you to conceal the thing and not make a blatant critic of today's society if /lit/ 'writers' actually listened to advices.

[Anonymous No.18112145]

>>18112138
>I thought it was about some guy fooling around with a real cat and dog by the way it was written.
I read it the same way. Thought this due was fucking housecats

[Anonymous No.18112165]

>>18112138
>Fortunately for my guilty boner, I take this is about animal-eared anime girls, right?
Pretty much. This is Korone and Okayu. The entire story is just reverse ntr with animal-eared anime girls

[Anonymous No.18112169]

>>18112103
So does every teenage midwit. Protip: you won't. Now read some books instead of watching cartoons.

[Anonymous No.18112198]

Do you have a resource about writing horror? Or about making children's book?

[Anonymous No.18112199]

>>18112198
Do both at once

[Anonymous No.18112206]

NEW AND FRESH
>>18112202
>>18112202
NEW AND FRESH
>>18112202
>>18112202

[Anonymous No.18112211]

>>18109869
Not really good, but i think your prose could get better.

[Anonymous No.18112216]

>>18112206
wow thanks anon, we'd be nothing without you! You're so great thanks man!

[Anonymous No.18112222]

>>18112198
I've posted several times about my thoughts on writing kidlit. Lurk more or ask specific questions and I might say something you like. Other than online discussion, though, there's not much I know of.

Starting writing now. Will try to write straight through until bedtime and post how many words I got out then.

[Anonymous No.18112223]

>>18112216
I agree! thank goodness we got real writers on /lit/ to make quality on-topic generals! Imagine, if we didn't have that OP, the general would be full of weeb erotic writers.

[Anonymous No.18112229]

>>18112206
I'm going to post my story in this thread, this one is already done. See you anons there!

[Anonymous No.18112232]

>>18112117
agreed

[Anonymous No.18112243]

>>18112117
>>18112232
Why does it bother you so much that people are writing on commissions?

[Anonymous No.18112247]

>>18112206

[Anonymous No.18112265]

>>18112198
Focus on one.

[Anonymous No.18112272]

>>18112092
On my off time, I do. It's a good little exercise.

[Anonymous No.18112283]

>>18112092
>>18112272
Never really saw the point on writing fanfics. I can see why people enjoy them, but that’s not for me.

[Anonymous No.18112291]

>>18112169
>Now read some books instead of watching cartoons.
Rather watch cartoons.

[Anonymous No.18112298]

>>18112092
I wanted to write for comics, which are basically drawn and published fanfiction

[Anonymous No.18112302]

>>18112298
Comics are there own thing and not fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.18112306]

>>18112247
It is pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.18112311]

>>18112092
That's how I started, actually, with Dragon Ball Z fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.18112314]

>>18108181
>Is it that easy? Just writing a litrpg novel and making free money?
You got to market it as well and hope for the best.

[Anonymous No.18112319]

>>18112311
>Dragon Ball Z fanfiction
You posted them online?

[Anonymous No.18112320]

>>18112302
It's cute you believe this
>>18112311
based

[Anonymous No.18112323]

New thread.

>>18112321

[Anonymous No.18112325]

NEW
NEW
>>18112324
>>18112324
>>18112324

[Anonymous No.18112328]

>>18112319
I did. It was a homosexual smut story between East Kaio-shin and Super Gohan.

[Anonymous No.18112341]

>>18112323
based, will post on that one.

[Anonymous No.18112495]

>>18111657
I jinxed myself. None of the performers are doing live shows right now tonight, and to rub salt in the wound the TAS is teasing me.
Guess I actually have to write a page tonight.

[Anonymous No.18112898]

>>18109381
Phew, was worried we’d starve without this delicious pasta!!

Y’know, this pasta is served piping hot (first few posts) when animeanon is OP, but when it’s Rockwell (nice image btw) the pasta is served quite cold, indeed.

Just sayin’

[Anonymous No.18112908]

Fuck posting in here about improving writing and rewriting. Get into crypto then write the next big novel when you’re in your late 20s once you’ve got a house. Unless
>he is above 29 and tries to be a writer
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.18112966]

>>18111734
>>18111736
>literotica is mostly enjoyed by women
>with each day that passes you realize your tastes are almost exactly the same of a roastie
Why god I hate them so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.18113013]

>>18112966
more like you hate yourself, clearly
don't be so identity pilled or you'll find yourself going down a fucked up rabbit hole

[Anonymous No.18113022]

>>18113013
I hate their attitudes not not their taste. Big difference.

[Anonymous No.18113339]

>>18109381
Now that some retard has stolen the pasta and killed it, I need to start a new one from scratch.

[Anonymous No.18113381]

>>18113339
Good luck bro.