/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18065417]

Thoughts on Dark Academia? What’s some Dark Academia core lit or required reading? I want to be a Dark Academic

[Anonymous No.18065436]

>>18065417
It's cringe. Nuff said.

[Anonymous No.18065440]

>>18065417
>Thoughts on Dark Academia?
Its shit.
>What’s some Dark Academia core lit
If you don’t already know this you’re late to the fad
>I want to be a Dark Academic
Fuck off to reddit

[Nemo !!GgBWHLRiayD No.18065445]

>>18065417
>Thoughts on Dark Academia?
Prime fashionstyle for the crusty loungedwelling rodent.

[Anonymous No.18065459]

Is this the new low, /lit/? Discussing female fashion memes from Twitter?

KILL YOURSELF OP

[Anonymous No.18065460]

>>18065417
The Secret History by Donna Tart
Percy Jackson at Modern Hogwarts redux x Luna Lovegood Lemon Fanfiction (all characters 18+) (Dark Academia) (TW: Self-Harm, Bullying) [M] by SassySlyth3rin2001

[Anonymous No.18065463]

Proust
Sebald
Bernhard
Late 19th c French satanic, dark writers
-huysman, baudelaire, lautreamont, etc
20th c eastern europeans
-krasznahorkai, nadas, schulz, gombrowicz, kis, selimovic, hrabal, etc
poets like anne carson, theresa hak kyng cha
any ancient greek more obscure than aristophanes
only peripheral modern philosophy, like hans blumenberg, bachelard, sloterdijk spheres trilogy etc
bourbaki texts on mathematics
walter benjamin
simone weil
french annales school historians
any 17th century french drama
economics - henry george, leon walras, polanyi
outdated work on mythology (including schelling but ignore all german idealism as its twitter-bro tier)
georg simmel
levi-strauss
zhuangzhi
frank stanford

[Anonymous No.18065467]

>>18065417
If you're not a woman, don't do this.

[Anonymous No.18065472]

>>18065436
Thread

[Anonymous No.18065480]

reading is not a personality trait

[Anonymous No.18065481]

>>18065417
tits or gtfo

[Anonymous No.18065496]

>>18065417
I have yet to meet a single girl that dresses like this and isn’t a) morbidly obese b) ugly c) the most annoying person you’ll meet and/or autistic d) all of the above. It’s the fedora/trenchoat of girls.

[Anonymous No.18065502]

>>18065417
I’m an infp (aquarius) and feel I’m a mixture of sylvia and brooke

[Anonymous No.18065503]

>>18065463
You shouldn't have written that post.

[Anonymous No.18065518]

>>18065496
So true.

[Anonymous No.18065520]

>>18065417
It's something I would be into if it weren't a trend.

Too popular for my snobby ass.

[Anonymous No.18065525]

>>18065417
aesthetics as a replacemeny for identity is cringe

[Anonymous No.18065531]

>>18065417
>dark academia
Strange fetishism of literature and a completely random pseudo preppy goth aesthetic tacked on by people who don't, and probably can't read.

[Anonymous No.18065543]

>>18065525
identity is pure aesthetics

[Anonymous No.18065544]

>MBTI and Hogwarts Houses
I really want this world to end so bad.

[Anonymous No.18065550]

>>18065543
said the retard, retardedly

[Anonymous No.18065562]

>>18065550
It is
And avoiding what you perceive as aesthetics is also motivated by aesthetics

[Anonymous No.18065572]

>>18065562
I am not an idolator of the self for my soul's perimeter encompasses eternity.

[Anonymous No.18065592]

>>18065417
I just realized I dress like that anyway.

[Anonymous No.18065601]

>look into Dark Academia
>mfw Ezra pound is such a huge influence on the fashion and personality of Dark Academia
>absolutely zero (0!) mention of his fascist or Nazi sympathies well after his antics during the Second World War

Lmfao wtf

[Anonymous No.18065603]

>>18065572
Nice aesthetics, bro.

[Anonymous No.18065609]

>>18065417
I dress like that + with a hat so no one notices if I’m on drugs since they can’t even see my skin etc

[Anonymous No.18065611]

Every criticism of this is a projection and could be turned back against /lit/ with equal force.

[Anonymous No.18065621]

>>18065601
Dark Academia has always been branded as right-wring so that's not very surprising

[Anonymous No.18065627]

>>18065603
monadic hermeneutics > reductionist "aesthetics"
read a book sometime yea

[Anonymous No.18065629]

The butthurt ITT is a sure sign that 4chan has forgotten trolling.

[Anonymous No.18065631]

>>18065417
are you black, middle eastern, or paki/pajeet? if so, just go to uni, and voila, you're a Dark Academic
if you're white, research blackface before enrolling.

[Anonymous No.18065635]

>>18065611
/lit/ is the real deal, because instead of bragging about their interests and perceived knowledge to people in their lives, they do it to anonymous idiots on a mongolian image board. That means they have rejected the self! Such enlightened people.

[Anonymous No.18065636]

>>18065621
>I could have a dark academic right-wing gf
Wtf I love dark academia now

[Anonymous No.18065643]

>>18065621
Are you crack? It seems like the complete opposite bordering on hilarity like I said. A lot of the Dark Academia people are decidedly (in their own imaginary) left wing

[Anonymous No.18065644]

As far as I see it, Dark Academia is just a way for kids with an interest in literature to feel a bit more connected to the historical “romantic” notions that come with it. They’d all love to find themselves in a Bronte novel someday, but they know they won’t, so they larp as hyper-intelligent, misunderstood students. It’s relatively harmless.

[Anonymous No.18065648]

I realize I talk about this constantly but can we talk about dark academia? I just cannot get over how people on here are so enthralled with having a flimsy excuse for racism and classism by way of ‘dark academia’ they just completely ignore metaphors or clear textual evidence of these books being satirical (the biggest example being, of course, The Secret History by Donna Tartt).

Take Maurice by EM Forster— do you know how often I’ve seen people call it ‘dark academia’ as if the portions of it set at college aren’t extremely sparse, and as if the text isn’t very explicitly a commentary on classism. It isn’t a coincidence that Clive espouses the white supremacist and classist ideals so common in this era, and it isn’t a coincidence that Clive leaves Maurice because of these ideas, and it isn’t a coincidence that Alec is the person that Maurice ends up with, and it isn’t a coincidence that Alec is not rich.

And yet! How rarely do I see people obsessed with dark academia talk about anything except Clive and Maurice! How often do I see people talk about the ‘hair stroking scene’ on end as if Clive isn’t written to be irredeemable because of so many of these values he holds, values aligned with so many of the values (satirical) novels in the dark academia ‘canon’ expound on, and values that so many people without a modicum of reading comprehension take to be admirable.

There is a huge amount of racism surrounding dark academia, from the satirized explorations of white upper class society to arguably unconscious racism on part of many authors in this genre, as well as readers. And I’m not just talking about the moodboards, and the edits and what have you, though it is clear what so many of the people creating these edits think about beauty and who belongs in academic spaces— take a search through the dark academia tumblr. How many of these edits have a single person of color in them, how many of these edits are about beauty and terror? How much do you want to bet people consciously see people of color as unfitting for (dark) academia, or are they just unconsciously racist in a space that doesn’t explore and analyze why dark academia is as white as it is, and why we associate whiteness with beauty so easily?

People are desperate to be like the main characters of The Secret History (a satire, may I add! I’ve said this three times but The Secret History is a satire! It is not serious! Why do so few people know that!) without any thought as to these characters’ values. Studying the classics without critique or self-awareness isn’t something to aspire to, nor is being classist and racist and holier-than-thou. To worship dark academia— the classics, ancient Greece and Rome, the canon of white male authors from England and France and the United States— is to adhere to racist morality.

[Anonymous No.18065649]

>>18065643
Because they have to stick to instagram rules

[Anonymous No.18065654]

>>18065631
if you're white you can turn trans and you get a carte blanche to act with an air of sophisticated erudition that would ordinarily get you accused of racism or something

[Anonymous No.18065659]

>>18065644
Yeah, incels getting asshurt about this are the same guys who would get flustered and talk about how they would beat up Justin Bieber. It’s so pathetic and reeks of sexless insecurity.

Incels once again take a psyche shattering L

[Anonymous No.18065660]

>>18065644
It's relatively cringe.

[Anonymous No.18065662]

>>18065496
exactly
>>18065502
(pic) fucking negroid

[Anonymous No.18065663]

>>18065627
too scared to acknowledge your own farce

[Anonymous No.18065675]

>>18065648
Tranny hands typed this

[Anonymous No.18065677]

>>18065662
angry intjs make me horny desu

[Anonymous No.18065678]

>>18065648
So much this, take my gold.

[Anonymous No.18065680]

>>18065659
You type like an actual woman, that HRT must be working.

[Anonymous No.18065681]

>>18065663
go back to reading schopenhauer or whatever it is you're into retard

[Anonymous No.18065694]

BYRON SAYS HOLES

[Anonymous No.18065695]

>>18065681
why would you be seething if you felt you were right?

[Anonymous No.18065699]

>>18065695
because you've said essentially nothing

[Anonymous No.18065703]

>>18065680
Yeah we get it dude - you’d beat up Barney and the teletubies. You only like badass grown up stuff like Insane Clown Posse, Nietzsche, Hitler and Batman despite beinng 5’9” and wracked with social anxiety.

[Anonymous No.18065706]

>>18065699
>>18065695
Stop it guys, be friends

[Anonymous No.18065711]

>>18065703
>>18065659
This. Incels need to be put in camps.

[Anonymous No.18065723]

>>18065699
yeah, maybe do some thinking and you might reach a conclusion
drop monadic hermeneutics impressionable faggot

[Anonymous No.18065728]

>>18065711
Why disliking a larp makes you an incel?

[Anonymous No.18065739]

>>18065728
Yikes, educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.18065743]

>>18065723
you're right I'll take up something much more sophisticated like "it's all aesthetics bro it's like vaporwave edits of roman busts like mishima bro i swear"

[Anonymous No.18065756]

>>18065739
?

[Anonymous No.18065765]

>>18065743
you have a pretty terrible understanding of aesthetics

[Anonymous No.18065776]

>>18065417
instead of shitting on the sheeple aesthetic masses why not profit off them?
start a nu-wave gothic movement that panders to their sensibilities and just copy gothic authors to get rich and fuck culturally bereft college students

[Anonymous No.18065777]

>>18065765
scared of elaborating on your position?

[Anonymous No.18065785]

>>18065677
hahaha stop watching anime, ya cunt

[Anonymous No.18065813]

Can the incels stop bickering and we stay on topic?

[Anonymous No.18065814]

im so fucking mad. my bros K threads consistently die at sub 20 replies, meanwhile 95% of lit shamelessly bumps garbage threads like this. why do you do it bros. but more importantly, can you offer a refutation of ivan's argument?

[Anonymous No.18065831]

>>18065814
They don't know how to sage threads.

[Anonymous No.18065833]

>>18065417
I would avoid all three of them.

t. dark academic

[Anonymous No.18065843]

>>18065814
this your thread? >>18065348

[Anonymous No.18065864]

>>18065843
nope, may as well've been though. many such cases

[Anonymous No.18065868]

>>18065843
I made that thread and I am not >>18065814
lmao dw

[Anonymous No.18065872]

>>18065831
>sage
>this is not 2008 any more kid

[Anonymous No.18065882]

>>18065814
were so proud of you for reading big boy books! did those mean girls make a thread and steal your attention??

[Anonymous No.18065885]

>>18065814
Simply.

When I come here I have done my part of reading, writing and thinking for the day.

[Anonymous No.18065889]

>>18065864
I'll look out for more of your threads
>>18065868
I've "bumped" it

[Anonymous No.18065897]

>>18065872
Well, it still works. You can post in a thread without bumping it. It's useful combined with a report.

[Anonymous No.18065912]

>>18065889
thanks cutie

[Anonymous No.18065913]

>>18065897
So if I put "sage" in options it still doesn't bump the thread?

Wtf, I am an 35 y.o. originalfag and I thought this policy was abandoned.

[Anonymous No.18065950]

>>18065889
good man

[Anonymous No.18066173]

>>18065864
maybe the reason yours died so soon is that there are always Brotha K threads and you need something to bring in the young meat

[Anonymous No.18066279]

>>18066173
i might be a retard rn but i have no idea what you mean by this

[Anonymous No.18066295]

>>18065417
>Thoughts on Dark Academia?
I dislike that reduces reading to an aesthetic but as long as it encourages young women to dress more modestly and pick up a book I'm mostly fine with ir
>What’s some Dark Academia core lit or required reading?
Harry potter I guess

[Anonymous No.18066542]

>>18065496
>It’s the fedora/trenchoat of girls.
This. Women who write great literature are either autistic femcel shut-ins or married to a rich chad who supports them. They either don't go outside enough to think about clothing or their husband just buys them the latest style. Only a midwit hack would put serious thought into 'looking' like a writer, much less make memes about it.

[Anonymous No.18066874]

>>18065459
ikr
but dont recommend ppl killing themselves, its a mortal sin

[Anonymous No.18066919]

>>18065417
This pretentious twat pisses me off
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zoZ88tm3mSI

[Anonymous No.18066985]

>>18065417
All three are guaranteed to fuck niggers so I date none.

[Anonymous No.18067019]

>>18065635
I only like the anonymity here so that I can say nigger without 100 redditors downvoting me and then some faggy mod bans me for (((racism)))

[Anonymous No.18067025]

>>18066985
Awwwwww poor you

:(

[Anonymous No.18067037]

>>18065913
Yes anon but without the quotation marks

[Anonymous No.18067071]

>>18065677
INTP but I feel that.

[Anonymous No.18067086]

>>18065417
An aesthetic for women to show off to other women and attract gullible men

It has no deeper roots than this so don't be fooled

[Anonymous No.18067211]

>>18065417
sylvia all day every day

[Anonymous No.18067217]

>>18065496
you clearly didn't go to uni

[Anonymous No.18067233]

>>18067217
Not him, but university is no different.

[Anonymous No.18067292]

>>18067233
which uni then? cos there were lots dressed like this who didn't fall under that index

[Anonymous No.18067392]

>>18067217
california

[Anonymous No.18067457]

>>18065417
Harry Potter fandom but somehow more retarded

[Anonymous No.18067531]

>>18067392
fair enough. no clue what it's like in america really except a few people in the ldn media scene (east coast tho)

[Anonymous No.18067534]

>>18065609
Does /lit/ really?

[Anonymous No.18067560]

>>18066985
Wrong. Half these types are Asians who date exclusively whites.

[Anonymous No.18067643]

>>18065463
Pretencious af

[Anonymous No.18067690]

>>18065544
There's nothing wrong with it on the surface. It's just that lately the same obsessiveness that bred so much creativity in the past now results in idiots having an opinion on everything.

[Anonymous No.18067711]

>>18067690
It's consumption as identity

[Anonymous No.18067718]

>>18067711
It would be if the OP had any brands mentioned, but it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.18067720]

>>18065436
fpbp

[Anonymous No.18067741]

How should I dress if im male with a darky academy feel

[Anonymous No.18067745]

That's disgusting.

[Anonymous No.18067749]

>>18067741
>darky academy
SHEEEEIT NIBBA yo das be rayzist n sheit

[Anonymous No.18067752]

>>18065814
Most people on this board haven't read the Brothers K, but it's nearly effortless to have a half-baked reflex opinion a internet phenomenon like Dark Academia. Simple as.

>>18065417
As to your question OP, you'll quickly realize that Dark Academia isn't worth much below the surface. If you like the style, then adopt it by all means, but the aesthetic won't sustain your reading/writing/artistic habits. It may be an entry in, in which case use it, but you'll likely shed the Dark Academia label very soon.

That said, here's a list to get you started:
>The Secret History - Donna Tartt
>If We Were Villains - some literal who
>Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde
>Oedipus Cycle - Sophocles
>Phantom of the Opera - Gaston Leroux
Bonus
>Keats's Odes
>Matthew Arnold's Oxford poems
>The Learned Disguise - R. C. "Bussy" Waldun

Listen to a "Dark Academia" playlist on Spotify while you read for maximum points, don't take yourself too seriously, and just enjoy the literature.

[Anonymous No.18067761]

>>18067741
Browse Trad/Ivy/Prep threads on /fa/ and follow the advice except only wear neutral colors. That's pretty much it. Essentially LARP as an early 20th century literature professor and you're over halfway there.

[Anonymous No.18067762]

>>18067752
>R. C. "Bussy" Waldun
hehe

[Anonymous No.18067793]

>>18067217
i’m at uni right now you nigger

[Anonymous No.18067859]

>>18065417
Dark Academia is cringe and passé at this point
Being aesthetic is undeniably part of being a great writer though

Things that are highly aesthetic for writers:
>blindness
>dying young (before 40-50 is best, but if you're really a prodigy, before 30 is even better. Stephen Crane, John Keats, and to a lesser extent Mishima. Important to die before you get ugly)
>being either a complete libertine or complete celibate
>coming from a family line of uneducated people and criminals
>having gray hair (this does counter dying young to a degree, if you can go gray early that's good)
>looking down on materialists, empiricists, and atheists

[Anonymous No.18067860]

I'm sylvia

[Anonymous No.18067877]

>>18065417
Dark Academia /lit/ (of actually good lit instead of shitty tumblr):
1) Stoner
2) Hamlet
3) Oedipus Trilogy
4) Oresteia
5) Ecclesiastes & Job
6) Crime and Punishment
7) Rousseau's Confessions

[Anonymous No.18067880]

>>18067860
sylviaaaa

[Anonymous No.18067884]

>>18065520
>caring this much about what other people think

[Anonymous No.18067940]

>>18067793
mhm there's nothing but fit birds dressed like this going to university though

[Anonymous No.18067942]

>>18067884
eh? isn't he totally self-absorbed in this reply though

[Anonymous No.18067968]

>>18067880
The first time I did molly, I picked up a girl who did work as a nude model at a house party hosted by a bunch of art school students. She put that album on while we were fucking. It was weird.

[Anonymous No.18068017]

>>18067968
that's really weird

[Anonymous No.18068047]

>>18065417
Does it exist outside of a few hundred people on instagram?

[Anonymous No.18068079]

>>18068047
I'm a high school teacher, and the "aesthetic" community is pretty widespread among my female students. Between Dark Academia and Cottagecore, you can definitely see an influence on teens. I don't think there are a lot of "adults" that use the label.

[Anonymous No.18068097]

>>18067741
Wear the following generally:
>white, off-white, light grey oxford shirts
>neutral color sweaters
>brown, olive green, black, khaki, gray plaid chinos/trousers
>brown derby shoes
That's pretty much all there is to it. It's basically old-fashioned business casual. If you really want to achieve the look, try to shoot for mostly or entirely natural fibers/materials (i.e., no polyester, imitation leather, etc.).

[Anonymous No.18068101]

>>18065417
I would let any of these girls ruin my life right now

[Anonymous No.18068149]

>>18065417
I need to marry Vivian.

I wonder what Dark Academia girls think of old fashioned big game hunting rifles

[Anonymous No.18068172]

>>18068017
It threw me off (she was also a screamer). I sneaked away while she was in the bathroom and had to walk through her kitchen where a bunch of her housemates (I guess), who weren't there when we came in, were hanging out.

[Anonymous No.18068176]

Looks kinda gay

[Anonymous No.18068283]

>>18065417
Vivian for the win

[Anonymous No.18068318]

>>18068172
what effect did it have? i reckon the two things would be hard to separate in your mind

[Anonymous No.18068336]

>>18068283
Fuck Sylvia
Kill Vivian
Marry (/Divorce) Brooke

[Anonymous No.18068343]

>>18065460
lol

[Anonymous No.18068355]

>>18068149
They would tolerate a double barreled British rifle mounted above the mantle. You could tell stories at parties about how some obscure writer used the same model and what book he wrote about it, boys being boys and all that.

[Anonymous No.18068362]

This feels like a thread for trannies and yet I don't fit in here

[Anonymous No.18068381]

>>18065572
With due respect "I am the universe, my image doesn't matter" is a fairly bad take. What devotees to universal truth are not also aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.18068382]

>>18067560
The other half are white lesbians.

[Anonymous No.18068730]

>>18065417
Is this a covert Waldun thread?

[Anonymous No.18068814]

>>18067877
Lame

[Anonymous No.18068892]

>>18065417
brooke probably smells like my grandma and collecting buttons is gross so she can fuck off
vivian should stick to one journal at a time and stop trying to pick fights with me, gosh
sylvia doesn't seem too bad actually although she is probably crazy

[Anonymous No.18069646]

>only reads LGBT+ authors & poets
Do people actually do this? What's the point?

[Anonymous No.18070144]

>>18065629
I don't think people care, it's free 2 minutes of hate

[Anonymous No.18070187]

>>18069646
Doubt anyone actually does it. They might claim to for woke points.
The 'B' in LGBT+ means the Greeks would be allowed anyway, so they can at least start right.

[Anonymous No.18070281]

>>18065543
but this fashion is an aesthetic with no essence, its a superficial aesthetic

[Anonymous No.18070887]

>>18065417
Are the other two /nudism anons itt? Discovered I'm not the only one on /lit in the last Waldun thread.