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post writers you despise and loathe the most

>> No.18062874
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>>18062755
He's like Freud but with double the politics and none of the saving graces.

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>>18062755
>>18062755
phenotypes such as Russell, old WASP men with craggy features and aristocratic bearing (pic related), seem to be dying out in the modern muttified fluoridated world.

I loathe Bataille, Popper, and John Stuart Mill.

>> No.18063049

>>18062755
What's wrong with Russell?

>> No.18063083

>>18063049
People say he is Reddit but in fact hating Russel is the true Reddit take

>> No.18063180

>>18062912
>soft hands made this post

>> No.18063228

Joyce, Jung, Baldwin, Derrida, Lacan, and Brecht are to come to mind.

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>> No.18063375

Nabokov's prose irritates the fuck out of me

>> No.18063388

>>18063083
But Russel got absolutely BTFOd and all of his ideas thoroughly debunked

>> No.18063602

>>18063388
when

>> No.18063640

>>18063388
>Yfw still neutral monists out there

>> No.18063651

>>18062755
>>18062912
>>18063388
Sometimes you retards make me sick, this is almost as low IQ as the Kafka hate threads.

>> No.18063654

>>18063602
Godel dropped the incompleteness theorem at the same time that Russel was 500 pages into his "proof" of 1+1=2

>> No.18063678

>/filtered/ general

>> No.18063697

>>18063654
Good thing the entirety of Russell's work is not reducible to the proposition "arithmetical truths are analytic" then. Brainlet.

>> No.18063700

>>18063083
>hating Russel is the true Reddit take
Loving*

>> No.18063704

>>18063697
He considered it his most important work. Also, please cut it out with the cursing and name-calling

>> No.18063706

>>18063697
Doesn't matter. He got his ass handed to him.

>> No.18063716

>>18062755
I made Russell-hating cool.

>> No.18063774

>>18063704
>He considered it his most important work.
The fact remains that one proof being refuted is not the same as all of his ideas being "thoroughly debunked".

>> No.18063789

>>18063706
>Doesn't matter. He got his ass handed to him.
Which has no bearing whatsoever on his value as a philosopher. Get fucked back to r3ddit with this infantile shit.

>> No.18063810

>>18063774
Name one other idea of his that was important, so we have something to discuss besides just cussing and sarcstic drivel

>> No.18063817

>>18063789
>Which has no bearing whatsoever on his value as a philosopher.
He got BTFO. It absolutely devalues him as a philosopher.

>> No.18063840

>>18063704
>he considered
His feelings aren't the same as his intellectual ideas

>> No.18063855

The ANALityc bugmen are ITT

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>>18062755
Sure, the science shit he writes about is neat but his characters and plot suck ass. I could only get through the first 100 pages of State of Fear before stopping. Every female character was described as sexy, hot, or naked at one point

>> No.18063864

>>18063810
Get the fuck out of here brainlet, if you don't know anything about Russell you shouldn't go around talking shit about all his ideas being refuted

>> No.18063877

>>18063817
https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/
^Your new home until you learn more about philosophy

>> No.18063879

>>18063864
You can't even name a single idea of his that was important, lol. He got BTFOd on his magnum opus, what was supposed to literally solve mathematics and become the centerpiece of his thought. Probably the most thorough and complete BTFOing of any idea in the history of philosophy.

>> No.18063899

Karl Popper

>> No.18063960

Even Russell hates Russell

Dare I day based?

>> No.18063979

>>18063879
You exposed yourself as a colossal faggot that doesn't know anything about Russell. What the fuck does "solving mathematics" even mean, you evidently have a layman's understanding of philosophical discourse. Your posts don't merit serious reply, you can keep embarrassing yourself if you want.

>> No.18063983

>>18063864
There's not enough time in the day to read every idea of every debunked philosopher. When someone gets so historically BTFOd on what they consider their most central work, I have no choice but to question their overall motives and philosophical instincts. Saying "Lol, how can you question him when you haven;t read every single one of his works?" Is disingenuous, unless you truly can't name another of his ideas, in which case you are simply dissimulating

>> No.18063997

>>18063983
>There's not enough time in the day to read every idea of every debunked philosopher.
Then stay in the corner listen to people who are knowledgeable about said ideas, and maybe you will learn a thing or two.

>> No.18064010

>>18063877
Based. They are BTFOing Sam Harris. Looks like it's better than here. Thanks for the link.

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>>18062755
good answer

>> No.18064029

>>18064016
what kind of pleb hates Pound? kek

>> No.18064032

>>18064010
Glad you found a place you can truly call home

>> No.18064048

>>18063997
Yeah, I'm not claiming to know every idea of his. You are the one saying that he has many important ideas. I am asking you to name one, and you can't.

>> No.18064053

Every American "marxist" should be transformed into a zebra mussel. It is the animal they most spiritually resemble.

>> No.18064058
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>>18062755
I once listened to Russell on some kind of radio show recording on youtube, he was talking about Nietzsche and he got to the part in Also sprach Zarathustra were Zarathustra calls on all men to not forget their whip when they have to deal with women. So Russell went to this rant where basically called Nietzsche an incel and said that if he tried to whip a woman in real life, they would just take it away from him. This is a typical Anglo white knight take and he totally missed the point.
This line was inspired by pic related, the woman is Luíza Salomé, a woman Nietzsche very much appreciated. And as you can see, she is the one holding the whip in the hand. I think she friend zoned Nietzsche when he tried to get closer to her, which must have hurt because he never was successful with women. So when he writes that you should not forget your whip when dealing with women, what he means is that you should not forget it so SHE can use it to whip you with it. Men carry womens bags, they give them gifts, get into fights for them, make them exaggerated compliments, women whip men forth and back like a wild bull and men, like the horse with the boy, just dont understand that there is no reason for any of it.
Instead they faithfully do their little monkey dance until they are rejected for good and left heartbroken.

I found it funny because Nietzsche often remarked Anglos make bad philosophers, and then one of Englands most important philosophers of the 20th century makes a simplistic remark like that, specifically because Anglos are used to carrying their whip.

>> No.18064060

>>18064032
Never mind, they're praising Russell for his leftist sensibilities. Dropped.

>> No.18064119

>>18064016
filtered

>> No.18064170
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>>18064029

Legalists

>> No.18064175

>>18064048
>I'm not claiming to know every idea of his.
You claimed to know that all of his ideas were "thoroughly debunked"

>> No.18064183

>>18062931
>>18062755
They're just old and wrinkly. Look up how much of a dork young Russell looked.

>> No.18064184

>>18064175
That wasn't me. I'm trying to do what you said and 'listen to the experts.' So please, tell me why any of Russel's ideas are important, if you can. You can, right?

>> No.18064186

>>18064058
>basically called Nietzsche an incel
Nietzsche was a literal incel though.

>> No.18064198

>>18064186
Not really. He fucked whores at brothels. Incelism wasn't a thing until the modern era in the US.

>> No.18064200

>>18063651
No, those are warranted, given that Kafka was a Jew.

>> No.18064228

>>18064029
A redditor obv because muh fascism

>> No.18064233

>>18064200
based

>> No.18064263

>>18064186
And Russell wrote about how great open marriages are two years before getting a divorce.

>> No.18064272

>>18064186
No you just dont get him.

>> No.18064273

>>18064263
oof, that's gotta hurt

>> No.18064275

>>18064184
What do you mean by "important" ideas, ideas I agree with? I evaluate the importance of a philosopher mainly by his contributions to the overall dialectic. For instance Moore and Russell were important in rehabilitating Realism after a long period of Hegelian dominance.

>> No.18064294

>>18064263
russellbros we got too cocky

>> No.18064300

>>18064275
So he's important because he got filtered by the idealists and tried to take a step backwards? That's not really contributing to the dialectic

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>>18064300
>>18064275
There is no such thing as a dialectic thats just German autism as much grounded in reality as the faces I see in the dark.

>> No.18064356

>>18064345
Define reality.

>> No.18064361

>>18064356
Go outside, feel the ground beneath your feet, smell the air, talk to a nice girl. Thats reality.

>> No.18064366

>>18064272
Good. I wouldn't want to catch his syphilis

>> No.18064367

>>18064361
>he doesn't know
Should we tell him, lads?

>> No.18064377

>>18064361
I did all of that in my dream last night.

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>>18064367
>dude what if the colors I see arent the same you see

>> No.18064432

>>18064381
>Baring your teeth and wheezing like a chimp who is threatened
It's okay, anon. No one is forcing you to consider these questions.

>> No.18064526

>>18063083
This. His metaphysics wouldn't survive on Reddit.

>> No.18064536

>>18064361
Imagine being this retarded. And this shithole claims superiority over the likes of Reddit? Come on, now.

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>>18064526
Reddit loves him.

>> No.18064584

>>18064183
>dork

On the contrary, as a baby he looked very smart (because he was). I'll let you look up the wiki photo.

>> No.18064601

>>18064553
Reddit's philosophy community loves literally every philosopher, especially continentals (but also analytics), the only people it hates are all Reddit-tier nonphilosophers like Ayn Rand, Sam Harris, and Jordan Peterson.

>> No.18064685

>>18064170
Pound was a legalistic person?

>> No.18064687

>>18064345
I speak of "The Dialectic" in this sense of newer philosophers succeeding older ones, criticizing some of their ideas while agreeing with others etc. I didn't mean it in a teleological sense.

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>>18064016
Plebs cannot understand poet-kings...

>> No.18064713

>>18064300
Why are you wasting my time with your idiotic posts if you don't have anything to discuss besides memes. Don't come back until you are at least 18.

>> No.18064729

>>18064713
You realist materialists are all the same.

>> No.18064775

>>18064729
Thanks, great contribution to the thread. And for future reference, neither Moore or Russel were materialists.

>> No.18064786

>>18064775
Yep, but don't let /lit/ know because it shatters their whole worldview of Russell.

>> No.18064795

>>18064775
Nothing but sarcasm and bile. Stay in your lane, science bitch. The big boys are answering the hard Qs while you play with blocks.

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>> No.18064815

>>18063049
He btfo neetch

>> No.18064829

>>18063388
>debunked
Every time I read that word I feel like killing myself.

>> No.18064830

>>18064808
Is it time to bring back tough-life posting?

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>>18064029
>>18064119
>>18064693

>> No.18065021

>>18065011
>literary gossip
yea, this place is definitely NOT better than leddit

>> No.18065066

>>18064170
This.

>> No.18065084

>>18065066
NIGGER

>> No.18065103

>>18064356
Nigga just look around

>> No.18065123

>>18062755
Bertrand Russell makes the christcuck seethe

>> No.18065126

>>18065123
Nah.

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>>18065021
nah m8 the best part of lit is often writers chatting absolute breeze

>> No.18065269

>>18062755
what did old Russel do wrong ;-;

>> No.18065326

>>18065261
that's the irrelevant part

>> No.18065339

>>18065269
everything

>> No.18065375

Is the shitting on top of Russell or merely above him?

>> No.18065465

>>18062755
every writer as long as their works are purple and unreadable

>> No.18065477

>>18063388
ah yes, the russell paradox, principia mathematica, etc.
all thoroughly debunked!

>> No.18065489

>>18065477
>the russell paradox
That's just word games.

>> No.18065522

>>18062755
You nailed it

>> No.18065542

>>18065489
but an achievement nonetheless!

>> No.18066089

>>18065489
go away PI

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>>18062755

>> No.18066229

>>18063372
What a chad

>> No.18066234

>>18065542
No, solving the paradox is an achievment

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Really /lit/, really?
100 fucking replies and no one has posted this Voldemort looking fucker yet?

>> No.18066363

>>18064200
>>18064233
grow up

>> No.18066373

>>18064601
yes but even they have their own subreddits, you see

>> No.18066758

I fucking hate Nietzsche and his followers, both the pseuds and the people who actually read him

>> No.18066774

>>18066260
He looks like if a ghoul from Fallout had sex with a who from Whoville

>> No.18066911

>>18064228
calling someone a redditor is pretty rich when you're using 'muh' in 2021

>> No.18066920

>>18066911
Nigger language is still alive. Why wouldn't he mock their speech?

>> No.18067046

>>18066920
ancient meme in it

>> No.18068248

>>18066373
That's the point. Using Reddit's philosophy subreddits to make a point about "Reddit" liking Russell is pointless. Reddit's philosophy subreddit hate the actual-Reddit "philosophers" like Rand, Harris, and Peterson. Ironic I know.

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>>18062755

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Is there any question here?

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>>18062755

>> No.18068325

>>18068248
it's because reddit has nothing to do with the "reddit" meme on 4chan. it's just seething 4channers trying to force their way of 4channing on other people by bullying any deviation. 4chan used to be the weird place. fascists have genuinely ruined this site.

>> No.18068350

>>18064228
>compares Mussolini to Jefferson
the guy was historically illiterate, it's just a fact

>> No.18068358

>>18068312
why? seemed kinda historicist, but other than that decent enough

>> No.18068366

>>18064170

Based, especially fuck Confucius

>> No.18068372

>>18063273
why

>> No.18068379

>>18068350
withing certain lenses, they can be similar.

>> No.18068399

>>18068372
not that anon but Rortey is one of the most repulsive pseuds of the 20th century. His essay on Derrida is nonsense and unreadable.

>> No.18068413

>>18068379
yeah, if you ignore reality. Thomas Jefferson was anti-imperialist, and a plantation aristocrat. Mussolini was a thug veteran and a marxist. You could argue their similarities were that they were both interested in state and local politics, but that would completely miss the point of each of their political views. the similarities are only superficial. Just like Pond and every sleazy fascist who larps as a man with valor

>> No.18068414

>>18068399

So, just like Derrida.

>> No.18068423

>>18068414
basically, but without doing deconstruction

>> No.18068955

>>18063049
hes a English
hes a liberal
hes an English liberal
that's 3

>> No.18069006

>>18063049
Charlatans hate him!

>> No.18069041

>>18064275
>his contributions to the overall dialectic.
You can't seriously says this and take issue with people saying Russell got BTFO when he is one of the principal figures who made that level of "argumentation" respectable.

>> No.18069339

>>18063704
>He considered it his most important work
At the time, and for a while after because he was depressed at having it BTFO’d by Godel, but then he grew up, realized that shit happens, used his failure to strengthen his resolve, and wrote a bunch of really good books on other subjects— including THE CONQUEST OF HAPPINESS, which is one of the best, if not the only good, “self-help” “rules for life” books.

>> No.18069372

>>18062912
Kinda surprising and disappointing that his wives were all plain-looking Americans. You'd think he would have done better.

>> No.18069384

>>18064263
Don't forget that this was because his wife got pregnant by another man. Russel was literally cucked so hard he 180'd his political views.