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18030140 No.18030140 [Reply] [Original]

Baudrillard was right

>> No.18030236

>>18030140
Baudrillard is some shorthand for saying "its not natural therefor wrong" even though to Baudrillard the naturalism of the natural is indiscernible from the non-natural. Basically citing Baudrillard is a sure sign you're a pseud because you've clearly been able to tell the natural from the non-natural

>> No.18030531

>>18030236
I don't know who Baudrillard is but if you don't see anything wrong with that picture then you might be retarded

>> No.18030566

Wrongest parte of this is the retard who thought was being smart and outside the simulacra to picture the people taking pictures, and us staring at the picture and also discussing it, considering ourselves outside of it.

>> No.18030569
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18030569

flava flav was right

>> No.18030574
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anon was right

>> No.18030580

>>18030574
Thanks man, you included me in the thing, feels nice

>> No.18030583

>>18030140
The point that Baudrillard made isn't that shallow culture exists. It is that a system of signs of reference to nothing have acquired meaning; these signs are the only available objects in existence with which one can interact.

>>18030236
Anon's point is that by saying "oh this photo bad" implies that there is a neutral space outside of the system of signs where you are making this statement, which Baudrillard would claim to be impossible.

>> No.18030585

>>18030236
if you dont recognize de obvious baudriliardian themes in the photo then you should keep silence

>>18030531
based

>> No.18030689

>>18030566
Nice.

>> No.18030705

>>18030574
this guy understands baudrillard, people in screenshot not so much

>> No.18030732

>>18030140
>women see this image
>"I want a man who'll do that for me"
>men see this image
>"Christ how horrifying"
Why is there such a dichotomy between the sexes?

>> No.18030742

>>18030566
I visited my family for dinner the other day and they were watching some trashy reality show (married at first sight or something?) where some people were having a dinner party and it would cut to a panel of 3 commentators who were judging and critiquing the interactions. Then my mum and stepdad were sitting there commentating on how awful the people in the show are and how silly it is to have a show where you're watching the judges (or whatever they are) watch TV and make comments. They weren't self-aware enough to realise that they were doing the very same thing by commentating with smug superiority.
I was too disgusted and had to leave the room to finish my dinner. Reminds me why we don't watch TV in my house (especially while eating).

>> No.18030748

>>18030742
Lol retard

>> No.18030768

>>18030742
You sound like a whiny faggot that is full of himself. Eat the dinner and trash talk, who cares.

>> No.18030780

>>18030768
>a whiny faggot that is full of himself
>/lit/

>> No.18030794

>>18030569
Keked

>> No.18030807

>>18030574
Based screenshot

>> No.18030826

>>18030140
> baudrillard
good meme material desu

>> No.18030873

not to be rude, but I think Baudrillard was thinking of things a little more profound than people forcing themselves into making typical hollyday facebook pics.
I'd almost say his writing encroaches into the epistemological.

>> No.18030884

>>18030531
These are probably just a bunch of models out on a shoot.

>> No.18030890

>>18030742
not very baudrillardian of you anon. read the ecstasy of communication

>> No.18030900

>>18030140
goddamn, why do I have such an overwhelming desire to kick the pretty head of that bitch in the foreground with all the strength i can muster?

>> No.18031436

Went on a walk this morning, the weather's been awful for the past 2 weeks with the constant drizzle, gray clouds and unyielding wind, thought about how fucking tiresome it is, then quickly realized it's not the weather's fault but my city's which is all gray everywhere so that when the weather itself is gray, everything becomes a gray mess where the only other color comes from billboards and cars as there is no nature left.
Then I went home and started downloading a fucking video game to feel some closeness to nature.

>> No.18031543

>>18030732
The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for, as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning. Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one. To make use of it at every opportunity is as natural to her as it is for an animal to employ its means of defence whenever it is attacked, and when she does so she feels that to some extent she is only exercising her rights. A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them. – But this fundamental defect which I have said they possess, together with all that is associated with it, gives rise to falsity, unfaithfulness, treachery, ingratitude, etc. Women are guilty of perjury far more often than men. It is questionable whether they ought to be allowed to take an oath at all.

>> No.18031550

women shouldn't be allowed access to electricity

>> No.18031586
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Omg they're taking pictures at the beach on vacation. The end of civilization is here. Posted from my phone/computer at home.

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>>18031550
> electrocutes you

>> No.18031611

>>18030140
>Men are taking pictures of their girlfriends.
>This is very harmful for society.

>> No.18031615

>>18031593
Butterfly, you’ll never be as pretty as her. Even in your prime, you were less than her right shoulder, and now, everyday, you age more and more ugly.

>> No.18031619

>>18031550
Are cameras electric?

>> No.18031623

Are those... people taking pictures on vacation???? OMG REALITY IS A FUCKIN LIEEEEEEE AHHHHHHHH IM IN THE SIMULATION NOOOOOOOOOOOO THE REAL AINT REAL NOOOOOOO

>> No.18031662

>>18031543
where do trannies come in? are they men with the innate ability to dissimulate, thus they feel more like women, or are they men through and through, simply simulating the inherently female dissimulation? furthermore, are trannies the ultimate simulations/simulators?

>> No.18031676

I hate these psued threads.

>> No.18031722

>>18031676
>t. pseud

>> No.18031725

>>18030531
Oh no people like to take pictures on vacation

>> No.18031728

>>18031725
so you're retarded

>> No.18031732

>>18030585
t. samefag assblasted because he’s a pseud who’s never actually read baudrillard

>> No.18031766

>>18030140
Is cryptocurrency the simulacrum?

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>>18030140
Let’s not ignore the incel who took this picture. He may be the worst of the lot.

>> No.18031796

>see girl
>think girl is cute, have light crush
>find girl's social media account
>one pic is not cute
>immediately turned off
What theory explain this?

>> No.18031819

>>18031796
you care for beauty because you hate to know the big picture is that women are disgusting from birth to death. basically you reject the truth that life is suffering and you dont know how to make it stop. Read the pali canon.

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>>18031819
Please don't do this to me. Fantasy of a soulmate is the only thing drive me forward.

>> No.18031846

>>18030742
retard haha

>> No.18031983

>>18031436
>download simulacra to feel simulation

>> No.18031992

>>18031769
hmm, sweaty? we live in a society

>> No.18032037

>The OnlyFans did not Take Place
Don't worry /lit/ I'm here for you.

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>>18030742
>I was too disgusted and had to leave the room to finish my dinner. Reminds me why we don't watch TV in my house
not even cinema?

>> No.18032561

>>18032528
Please tell me that statue is not photoshopped! Where is it?

>> No.18032587

>>18032561
Victors Way in Ireland. They have all sorts of weird shit.

>> No.18032604

>>18032561
>>18032587
nvm, apparently it travels around for exhibitions.

>> No.18032615

>>18032528
>tfw to smart to doo anything

>> No.18032735

>>18030140
The serene expression on her face while her boyfriend focuses his viewfinder on the back of her head, as that is what the spirit of the shot calls for-- that her gaze is on the horizon-- which is confirmed by the second angle that we anons can see. What do you call this phenomenon or what does Baudrillard have to say about it?

>> No.18032811

>>18030742
ok ignatius

>> No.18032832

Hitler was right

>> No.18032844

>>18030742
My parents used to watch Friends during dinner. They were baffled for a while as to why I preferred to skip dinner.

>> No.18032948

>>18031662
I can't explain female to male, but male to female trannies are failed men. It could be due naturally low testosterone, being raised by a single mom, having bad or no male role models, having a low sexual market value, or all the above. They cannot compete or fufill the role of being a man, and a part of them realizes that simple truth. Once they know the simple truth, they begin to resent themselves and masculinity as a whole.

>> No.18033134

>>18030140
We're on an imageboard... Isn't it like discussing the Bible in a brothel? Oh well... Would you recommend Simulacres et Répétitions to someone who knows Baudrillard only from other authors? Is there a better book to begin with him?

>> No.18033145

>>18032948
you can't explain ftm either lmao

>> No.18033156

>>18030742
They weren't discussing it to entertain you, they were doing it for themselves. That's the distinction between the judges and them you fucking retard.

>> No.18033161

>>18033134
Jesus Christ do you think you need a preparing material for literally every pseud in the world? Baudrillard is a midwit

>> No.18033523

>>18030742
Judges get paid to sensationalize the mundane, your parent(s) are exhibiting the self aware mundane for their own entertainment.
You're really not that clever for criticizing reality tv either, everyone knows it's trash. They'll still watch it anyway exactly because it's provocative in its hubristic clichés.

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>>18031819
A true Buddhist ought to be more jovial. You sound like you're seething

>> No.18034419

>>18033161
t. pseud

>> No.18035012

>>18033145
You will never be a real woman.

>> No.18035023

My parents and my aunt (who lived with us after her farmer husband left us) were watching Bela Tarr during dinner and were baffled that i would rather skip the meal

>> No.18035416

>>18031769
but not as bad as the person who created that image

>> No.18035522

>>18030742
Something tells me you weren't a fan Mystery Science Theater 3000.

>> No.18035534

>>18035416
kek

>> No.18035541

>>18030748
>>18030768
>>18030890
>>18031846
>>18032811
>>18033156
>>18033523
>>18035522
t. reality tv show watchers

What's it like being below me in every conceivable way?