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>The staff doctor, von Grävenitz, told me that physical exams showed the great majority of the girls to be virgins. This is also apparent from their faces, but it is difficult to say [whether] this is more readable from their foreheads or their eyes. A silver glow of chastity suffuses the face. Its light does not have the glow of active virtue, but more a second-hand reflection, like moonlight. It lets us perceive the sun, the source of such serenity.
Is he right? Can you tell whether a girl is a virgin or not by her appearance?

>> No.18005365

Source: His diary, Voroshilovsk, 25 November 1942 btw. Just before this he compared the girls to "South American Negroes" that harbored "deep, enduring joy" even after generations of suffering.

>> No.18005385

>>18005355
Tell, no, predict with somewhat consistent accuracy, yes.

>> No.18005392

Every single passage of this dude that is quoted here just makes him sound like a massive retard

>> No.18005396

>>18005355
Unironically, if you have been around women a lot, without fail. It's also not difficult to understand why in so many cultures deflowered women are considered impure, because they lose something of their purity which is conveyed in the movements of their body, facial expressions, ability to maintain eye-contact and even the seductiveness of their lips. When I place my hand on the shoulder of a woman or even hug her, I can tell by the way their body responds to what extent they have felt the weight of a man press against their body

>> No.18006370

>>18005392
Because he is.

>> No.18006379

>>18005392
>>18006370
He's unironically more intelligent than you two. Everything he said in the OP is correct.

>> No.18006415

>>18005392
He's the laughing stock of German modernism.

>> No.18006430

>>18006415
German modernism is a laughing stock.

>> No.18006431

>>18005392
It's a diary entry.

>> No.18006625

>>18005355
Yes. In fact being around non-virgin that isnt married makes healthy man vomit automatically

>> No.18006629

>>18005355
Literally yes, I don't know how but virginity, and non-whorishness is always visible on a woman's face.

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>>18006629
When women trade away something that is attached to them by biological accident in exchange for feeling important and valued, their soul knows on a deep level that they failed the ultimate test of womanhood and can never undo it. Even though consciously they are making the choice as if nothing matters and they may even be loudly declaring they can do whatever they want without consequences, because someone on TV told them so, you can see the pain deep inside them because their soul still knows.

>> No.18006695

I've just bought Copse 125; anything I should know before going in?
Of Junger I've only read storm of steel before, as well as occasionally browsing /lit/ threads on him.

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>>18005355
I'd concur with him.
There something in the virgin female face that just shows her chastity; a sense of calmness and serenity.
It's quite beautiful - that expression.

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>>18005355

>> No.18006884

Does this also apply to men? I would like to think of myself as having that silver glow

>> No.18006929

>>18006884
No, it's the opposite for man.

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>>18006884
sorry lad

>> No.18007162

>>18005392
It's pretty much established knowledge here in Germany that he was a genius in terms of beautiful writing and command of the German language, but an absolute idiot with regards to his Weltanschauung. Aa mentioned, he's still worth reading just for his style, which is indeed unprecedented in the German language.

>> No.18007176

>>18005355
where is this from?

>> No.18007183

>>18007162
>caring about what nu-Germans think

>> No.18007192

>>18007183
yup, this.
If you care what modern cosmopolitan bourgeois g*rmans think, you're an idiot,

>> No.18007203

>>18007183
For real what kind of complete idiot takes modern germans seriously on any kind writer from the war years.

>> No.18007213

>>18007192
>>18007203
Hivemind

>> No.18007236

>>18007213
not an argument

>> No.18007244

>>18007183
People said the same thing even in the Interbellum period, most famously Thomas Mann, who actually ended up winning the Nobel, which must have made Jünger seethe at least a little bit. Mind you, this was when conservative views weren't ostracized at the Swedish academy (yet).

>> No.18007250

>>18007244
didn't Thomas Mann molest his three sons?

>> No.18007254

>>18006415
Then he is probably right. Look at the utter state of them.

>> No.18007258

>>18005355
Can't really tell virginity, but the more experienced ones are easy to tell. There is this continuum between the thousand cock stare and the virginal naivete. One can make informed guesses on where the womyn places on this scale.

>> No.18007332 [DELETED] 

>>18007250
I'm going to let you in on a primordial secret that has been past down only to the elect few throught the ages:

The sentece "stealing is wrong" doesn't magically became invalid when it is uttered by a thief.

Mind freaking blowing, amirite?

>> No.18007349 [DELETED] 

>>18007250
I'm going to let you in on a primordial secret that has been passed down only to the elect few throught the ages:

The sentence "stealing is wrong" doesn't magically become invalid when it is uttered by a thief.

Mind freaking blowing, amirite?

>> No.18007352

>>18007244
Did Junger dislike Thomas Mann? they are both nice.

>> No.18007363

>>18007250
'm going to let you in on an undisclosed secret that has been passed down only to the select few through out the ages:

The sentence "stealing is wrong" doesn't magically become invalid when it is uttered by a thief.

Mind freaking blowing, amirite?

>> No.18007369

>>18007363
what the hell is this onions crap. thomas mann should molest you.

>> No.18007374

>>18007352
J probably wouldn't have liked M political or even aesthetic views, but I don't think it likely that he didn't respect his stature. M was a giant of German literature even back then (perhaps even more so, actually)

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>>18007352
>Thomas Mann called Ernst Jünger, who was the only 20th century writer equal to him in mastery of style, "an ice-cold apostle of barbarism".
Took it from here
https://www.deutschland-lese.de/index.php?article_id=1170
Never liked Thomas much; even less now I guess.

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>>18005355
Does the same apply to men though?
Do girls notice for example that I am a kissless virgin at 21 who has never had a gf? I don't even watch porn or masturbate but I doubt that you could observe my innocence from the outside. The guy is probably a hack.

>> No.18007385

>>18007375
That is probably Thomas Mann in his moralist bourgeois "good citizen": phase, right? Which is my least favourite aspect of him. As Clive James said:
>One of [Mann's] many reasons for hating the Third Reich was that it forced him to be a better man than he really was.
>>18007374
I'd be interested to see if Junger even wrote about Thomas Mann somewhere. He presumably must have.

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>>18007363
>artistic judgement is no less personal than ethical laws

>> No.18007392

>>18007369
Even if he was a pedo, how foes this invalidate his views on Jünger?

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>>18007391

>> No.18007400

>>18007391
You seem to have lost your way, friend. Tumblr and r/books are that way.

>> No.18007409

>>18007379
>Do girls notice for example that I am a kissless virgin at 21 who has never had a
yes

>> No.18007423

>>18007392
I didn't say that. I'm not the guy you replied to. I just hate you way of saying things!

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>>18007385
>That is probably Thomas Mann in his moralist bourgeois "good citizen": phase, right? Which is my least favourite aspect of him.
Unfortunately not:
>Josef Goebbels praised Storm of Steel as a “war gospel,” and it is often seen as having glorified and aestheticized a bloodbath, which is too crude a critique. But when taken alongside Jünger’s other more explicitly bellicose writings about the Great War, and then war itself, it’s easy to understand why Thomas Mann maintained that Jünger’s “saber rattling” had helped the Nazis, and he was hardly alone in thinking so.
From:
https://newcriterion.com/issues/2019/12/the-importance-of-being-ernst
>One of [Mann's] many reasons for hating the Third Reich was that it forced him to be a better man than he really was.
Hahaha, thank you, I'm taking that.

>> No.18007449

>>18007423
Funny, I recall your mom saying something to that effect about you too after I plowed her high and low.

>> No.18007450

>>18007162
>genius in terms of beautiful writing
Wrong. Critics at the time called his style overwrought and antiquated.

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>>18007409
But do some girls value purity in a guy? I don't want to lose my virginity to a whore I do not care about but wait for someone I love.
What good is innocence when it has no value?

>> No.18007473

>>18007468
At best they will just not care, at worst they will consider you a lesser man

>> No.18007487

>>18007450
Some certainly did, but it sure wasn't the consensus. I think even Goebbels said something like, I'm paraphrasing, "Jünger is a poet, too bad he's an utter moron."

>> No.18007498

>>18007487
Goebbels seething that Junger didn;t support his gay regime

>> No.18007502

>>18007400
I am not saying the judgement of art is subjective and therefore impossible beyond the individual, but the value of art is not something determined by Latin metres, Renaissance laws of drama and the like.

Obviously Mann's faggotry stops him from appreciating Junger's brilliance.

>> No.18007514

>>18007502
>Obviously Mann's faggotry stops him from appreciating Junger's brilliance.
"No!" Mann's faggotry, if anything, is an aid, not an impediment.. it is, rather, his, let us say, fear, of, his own, barbarism, which, is responsible, his, siding with, at least, publicly, civilisation, over, culture, cf. his, criticism,, of, spengler (while privately, he approves, of more, than he says)

>> No.18007519

>>18007468
Innocence in a man is the same as impotence. It is not attractive from the perspective of a woman. You would have to find someone who does not care about such things, or has a weird sexual obsession with virgins. Try to notice if your virginity makes you act insecure. If it does not you should be fine.

>> No.18007562

>>18007468
this >>18007473
Think about how men view massive whores. There are either guys who don't care, or guys who feel repulsed by them. Women see virgins the same way.

>> No.18007575

>>18007519
It does not make me insecure per se but rather embarrassed when people my age talk about sexual stuff. You could describe me as the innocent anime high-school boy who blushes even at the tiniest of perversions.
>Innocence in a man is the same as impotence
It's so unlucky that women feel this way. Romantically, I am on the level of a 10 year old, way too behind to ever get into a meaningful relationship with a girl. It's over for me.

>> No.18007591

>>18005355
this is something a virgin would say. this is tantamount to guys insisting their roastie gf is actually a virgin
>bro she said she's a virgin, bro she said she only had sex with 5 guys in her life

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>>18007514
>"No!" Mann's faggotry, if anything, is an aid, not an impediment.. it is, rather, his, let us say, fear, of, his own, barbarism, which, is responsible, his, siding with, at least, publicly, civilisation, over, culture, cf. his, criticism,, of, spengler (while privately, he approves, of more, than he says)

>> No.18007613

>>18007487
Sauce on this?

>> No.18007618

>>18005355
He's right, cute virgins have a magical aura

>> No.18007658

>>18007450
Contemporaries calling you antiquated is useless for the judgement of posterity. The styles in fashion at the time are also antiquated now. We're just comparing shades of antiquated, some of them great, like Junger's.

>> No.18007669

>>18007575
I am somewhat in the same boat. The first and only person I dated was when I was 23. I was confident in my body and academic ability, but had no romantic experience. My insecurity was very obvious and it confused her a lot, since it was the total opposite of how I carried myself in daily situations. I could notice her evaluation of me going down, but not enough for her to outright dump me. I would not worry too much. If you are confident in other areas and are able to show this off, then women will naturally be attracted to it. They won't notice you being a virgin until you actually start dating. It is more a question of you being willing to endure their judgement, rather than not having any chance.

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18007685

Kek you faggots are retarded. Every single "virgin" above the age of puberty has masturbated 500 times to the most degenerate porn, gotten fingered, sucked dick, done anal, but somehow she retains muh mystical purity and innocence only because she hasn't had a dick in one of her many holes.

>> No.18007690

Not sure about women, but you can certainly do that with men.

>> No.18007693

>>18007468
>But do some girls value purity in a guy?
Few. Women statistically do not care about purity, and it isn't only in sexual matters.

>> No.18007699

>>18007498
Junger was a cuckservative, simple as. Absolutely mogged by Celine too.

>> No.18007705

>>18007575
Well bro there's many men who are into that, if that's a consolation.
I guess you could potentially find yourself a tumblr fujoshit who wants a boy like in her yaoi animes but she will probably want to peg you.

>> No.18007712

>>18007705
>I guess you could potentially find yourself a tumblr fujoshit who wants a boy like in her yaoi animes but she will probably want to peg you.
Whatever happens anon, do not do this. Become a legit faggot before touching fujos with a stick.

>> No.18007725

Why would you ever want to bang a virgin? That shit is boring as hell.

>> No.18007732

>>18007725
t. never fucked a virgin

>> No.18007748

>>18005365
I mean, I too get suprised sometimes on how black people in my country can be so joyful.

>> No.18007770

Spengler was right to hate Thomas Mann.

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>>18007468
>What good is innocence when it has no value?
You must mean no temporal value for the question to make any sense.
The answer would be everything. Pic rel.
>>18007519 is basically right, but it would be ill advised to throw your virtue at the feet of some shrew just for a confidence boost, especially when you show such good grasp on your true desire for actual love.
You can build confidence and the radiance of virtue other ways. Granted, it is not as easy as banging a whore, but your aforementioned grasp already brings you further than many, and the fruits of your labor will sustain you further. I believes in you, King.

>> No.18007825

>>18007799
Women don't care about virtue or any of that bullshit. Girls want to have fun which means great sex and therefore desire a guy who can fuck them right. All this muh virtuous life is pure autism.

>> No.18007835

>>18007825
I don't think anyone denies or ignores that beyond the larping frogposter. Autism simply trumps the opinion of women.

>> No.18007845

>>18007244
t. retard
masculine values have been ostracized in sweden since the 1718/1721 trauma. If you don't know what happened back then, you have no reason to open your mouth and let retardation flow.

>> No.18007848

Why do threads about virginity or virgins always get so many replies on 4channel

>> No.18007882

>>18007848
Why do you think, buddy?

>> No.18007894

>>18007848
glowies want to undermine virility what else is knew

>> No.18007904

>>18007848
The West (greatest civilization on the planet) literally has a virgin as its foundational pillar. It's symbolic and holy.

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>>18007848
Because we have to keep re-asserting traditional norms in the face of societal collapse due to widespread degeneracy. Who else is there but us?

>> No.18007962

>>18007835
>larping frogposter
In what way was I larping? Is it beyond your belief that there exists a guy who can go through life without ever meeting a girl who was romantically interested in him? Yeah, I have Aspergers, ok but don't just deny people's experiences.

>> No.18008009

>>18007962
He meant you ascribing value to innocence, not your experience.

>> No.18008012

>>18007502
I'm not quite following you here. I wrote that reply in response to that Anon who seemed to imply Mann's pederasty somehow diminished his artistic achievement and/or critical assessment of Jünger.
My point is: if in the future people find out that Joyce raped tons of little girls and ate babies' livers, I certainly won't consider him a morally admirable person, but it won't change the fact that Ulysses is the greatest English novel of the 20th century.
Beauty and artistic achievement are not dependent on morality. Even if Mann was more degenerate than Jünger, that doesn't mean he was the worse writer of the two.

>> No.18008031

>>18007613
I'm not a 100% sure that it was Goebbels, I just seemed to recall to have read something along those lines in Jünger's German Wikipedia entry.

>> No.18008053

>>18007845
The fact that they gave the Prize to Hamsun, undoubtedly a writer with strong fascist leanings, proves that if anyone is a faggot ITT, it's your demented ass.

>> No.18008062

>>18005355
the fact that any posters are taking this retarded shit seriously shows that this board is doomed

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>>18008062

>> No.18008120

>>18007162
Jünger isn't nearly as good as you make him out to be. also
>unprecedented in the German language.
this huy hasn't read Hackländer or Ortlepp. disregard his opinions

>> No.18008122

>>18007468
>>But do some girls value purity in a guy?
no

to a girl, a man is tool to sex and ordinary life pleasures. so a man is working right only he pleases already a girl

this is why women like taken men, because those men were already viable since they provide already for a woman.

>> No.18008131

>>18007848
Why do modern minds despise virginity and asceticism so much?why does virginity matter?
-because people, especially women, know that women cannot keep their legs closed
-because people know that most men never amount to anything

virginity is the best discriminant for people:
-good women are not tramps
-good men manage to make something of their lives (and, since women are loose by nature, fucking a woman is not so hard (if you do not fuck a woman, you better be good at something else))

naturally, this utopia never occurs:
-women spread their legs chasing their fun, especially through good sex, thanks to the men ready to serve them
-very few men go beyond women
men never amount to anything besides providing entertainment for women, since providing for women is the easiest thing, especially when it comes to giving them gifts.

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>>18007770
yup
>Mann's diary records his ATTRACTION to his OWN 13-year-old SON, "Eissi" – Klaus Mann: "Klaus to whom recently I feel very drawn" (22 June). In the background conversations about man-to-man eroticism take place; a long letter is written to Carl Maria Weber on this topic, while the diary reveals: "In love with Klaus during these days" (5 June). "Eissi, who enchants me right now" (11 July). "Delight over Eissi, who in his bath is terribly handsome. Find it very natural that I am in love with my son ... Eissi lay reading in bed with his brown torso naked, which disconcerted me" (25 July). "I heard noise in the boys' room and surprised Eissi completely naked in front of Golo's bed acting foolish. Strong impression of his premasculine, gleaming body. Disquiet" (17 October 1920).

>> No.18008218

>>18007162
>an absolute idiot with regards to his Weltanschauung
interesting way of spelling "nazi"

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>>18008218
I wish he was one, bros...

>> No.18008265

>>18006695

He briefly mentions the copse at the end of Storm of Steel. Reread that part.

>Copse 125 was regularly sheeted in thick smoke rising from the massive explosions, under red and green flares that rose and fell. If the artillery was silent for any time, you could hear the tactactac of machine-guns, and the dull crack of hand-grenades going off in the distance. From where I stood, the whole thing looked almost like a game. It lacked the brutish scale of a big battle, but one could feel the tenacious wrestling for all that.
>The copse was like a festering wound that both sides nagged and worried at. Both sets of artillery toyed with it, like a couple of beasts of prey, wrangling over a victim; they shredded its trees and flicked them into the air. It never had very large numbers of men in it, but it could be defended, and, as it was so conspicuous in that wasteland all around, it was always available as an instance of the way that even the most gigantic confrontation of forces is nothing but a mechanism by which today, as in every era throughout history, a man’s weight is taken.

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Based

>> No.18008307

>>18007379
Only if you masturbate, if you stay celibate you will turn into he-man

>> No.18008362

>>18008218
>>18008258
The only reason Jünger didn't view himself as a Nazi is that in his eyes the Nazis weren't radical enough.

>> No.18008400

>>18007685
I doubt that is what Jünger is talking about when he says "virgin"; moreso probably a sort of virginity of the mind, which is taken away by any one of those acts which you mention.

>> No.18008413

>>18008362
>The only reason Jünger didn't view himself as a Nazi is that in his eyes the Nazis weren't radical enough.
If by "weren't radical enough" you mean he thought they were idiotic mass murderers and disavowed their hatred of Jews, then yes.

>> No.18008415

>>18008362

Maybe, but this is a misleading way to put it.

>> No.18008441

>>18008290
>hobby entomologist uses bug analogies

>in jungers hands violence is aestheticized and technology naturalized

lmfao the absolute state of "academics"

>> No.18008511

>>18008413
Please, he would have been totally on board if the Nazis had portrayed themselves as restorers of a fallen monarchy instead of "national" socialists. He had a problem with the optics, not the substance in itself.

>> No.18008547

>>18008511
Junger wasn't some kinda dime a dozen reactionary either though. He was part of ARPLAN alongside Georg Lukacs.

>> No.18008594

>>18008413
mass murderer and hatred of Jews arent radical though

>> No.18008639

>>18008511
>t. hasn't read On the Marble Cliffs or the source of OP's quote
The Nazis being barbaric murders and tyrants inflicting mass suffering was the focus of his criticism of them from the onset of WW2 until his very last writings and statements before dying in 1998. He alludes to it through very thinly veiled fiction in Marble Cliffs and says so explicitly in his diaries, for example:
>General Müller told about the monstrous atrocities perpetrated by the Security Service after entering Kiev. Trains were again mentioned that carried Jews into poison gas tunnels. Those are rumors, and I note them as such, but extermination is certainly occurring on a huge scale...I am overcome by a loathing for the uniforms, the epaulettes, the medals, the weapons, all the glamour I have loved so much.

>> No.18008660

>>18008639
What a surreal situation to live through.

>> No.18008709

>>18007162
>opposed the Nazi regime somewhat
>wrote The Peace during the war
>opposed the Allied regime somewhat
>thought about ecology and the nation state

What Weltanschauung are you talking about? Jünger is anschlussfähig to a bunch of contemporary ideologies.

>> No.18008846

>>18008290
I have no idea how anyone can honestly read Junger and think he was a technophile. The editor's introduction to On Pain did the same thing, even though he repeatedly alludes in that essay to Nazi technological mass organization being a "soulless" and "mediocre" way of distancing oneself from pain.

>> No.18008905

>>18008290
Christ.

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>>18008846

You don't have to dig very deep either. It's obvious that he sees danger in technology, and not the sort to take likely.

>> No.18008969

>>18008958

*lightly

>> No.18009000

>>18005355
>Can you tell whether a girl is a virgin or not by her appearance?
I usually can

>> No.18009005

>>18006625
This

>> No.18009037
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18009037

This is a reminder to be like Xenocrates.

>> No.18009046

>>18005355
I wonder what percentage of posters in this thread are virgins themselves

>> No.18009133

>>18005355
Yeah

>> No.18009151

>>18008709
Precisely what you mentioned. He was a fence sitter thinking himself to be Socrates. Criticizing is easy, any dumbfuck and their mother can do it. He never really build something of his own, except that addlepated attempt Eumeswil and the whole notion of the Anarch. Being contrarian doesn't make you smart, something retards on here need to hear more often.

>> No.18009171

>>18009151
Bet you wouldn't criticise a totalitarian regime while you lived under it lol dumb fuck

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>>18008958
>the first application of technology was the locomotive
What a fucking retard. Should have sticked to his bugs.

>> No.18009192

>>18009171
I would have had no reason to since I myself am fascist.

>> No.18009255

>>18009192
Plenty of fascists had their own criticisms and disillusionments.

>> No.18009265

>>18009151
Though you seem aware of the anarch concept, you clearly didn't read about what it actually is. >>18009192 Yep, checks out.

>> No.18009682

>>18007799
>but your aforementioned grasp already brings you further than many, and the fruits of your labor will sustain you further. I believes in you, King.
Beautiful

>> No.18009898

>>18007162
Germans today are fucking stupid retards. Fuck off Hans I'm sure there are some arab dicks you could be washing right now.

>> No.18009928

>>18008400
Then he's talking about something that does not exist, and probably did not exist even then, except in a mind desperate enough to see it.

>> No.18010080

bros... how does junger do it?
y'know being so cool

>> No.18010324

>>18005396
I noticed this in college. Girls who came in often changed dramatically once they started sleeping around. Usually a great change in friendliness and frequency of laughter. Almost like a depressive effect.

I noticed a similar effect on a girl after working her first summer job.

>> No.18010430

>>18006379
Meds.

>> No.18011214

>>18005355
to a certain extent, yes, he's describing that short period when a girl has reached adolescence but isn't boy crazy yet

>> No.18011682

THIS IS TRUE FOR ANYONE, REGARDLESS OF SEX.

>> No.18011901
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>>18008307
>stay celibate
How do you find an a woman who would be happy in a celibate marriage? Sex is disgusting, but I don't want to die alone without a family. I love children, so would be happy to have sex once a year to get her pregnant.

>> No.18012041

>>18006884
Yes but masturbating and loneliness ruins it

>> No.18013236

>>18011901
Bruh you really think you'll be able to sleep in the same bed as a woman and never get horny?

>> No.18013242

>>18013236
I do it all the time. Try being older than 16

>> No.18013275

>>18011901
Don't worry, once you're married, you'll either not be having sex or only be having sex to have children.

>> No.18013575

>>18013236
Yes, I have slept in the same bed as a woman on multiple occasions without getting horny. It takes a lot to get me horny, and even then I don't like it.
>inb4 you're gay
I slept next to men on camping trips. They don't make me horny either.
>>18013242
Even at that age it was the same. I couldn't keep a gf for more than a few months, because they demand sex all the time.
>>18013275
I've heard married men say that before, but also heard stories of women leaving their husbands because they want more sex. Women in my experience are pretty sex-crazed.

>> No.18013721

>>18005396
Yeah it’s true. Virgins are different. Pretty depressing that young men today will mostly never know any of that. Sex for them will always be with callous, apathetic, and emotionally cold flesh. All these people’s lives are going to be destroyed because boomers decided to run an experiment with abandoning the laws that governed human civilization at its happiest.

>> No.18014195

>>18005355
based and bumping

>> No.18014322

>>18013575
Women don't even like sex

>> No.18014335

>>18014322
Then why do women base their entire philosophy and worldview around cooming and their pussies?

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>>18014322
uh?

>> No.18014824

>>18013242
>>18013575
i meant that but also without masturbation or pornography

>> No.18015414

bump

>> No.18015558

>>18014322
They like sex with Chad.
But really other anon must be terminally low test. Women have vey low sex drives compared to men.

>> No.18015960

>>18014322
I wish that were true.
>>18014824
I don't like masturbation either, but will do it to get rid of a persistent erection. Can easily go a month without it.
>>18015558
Never had my blood work done, but pretty hairy and well muscled with a slightly receding hairline. Even if I could take a pill to get horny I wouldn't want it though.

>> No.18016145

>>18015960
>slightly receding hairline
So low test

>> No.18016331

>>18016145
Idk, it's somewhere between Norwood 1 and 2.

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>> No.18017586

>>18008120
>Hackländer or Ortlepp
lol, grow up

>> No.18017710

>>18006867
Great post and criminally underrated

>> No.18018238

Funny how the effort threads that me and a few others post will last for days, weeks sometimes, and feature decent discussion. Yet low effort threads like this get retarded answers and shit discussion. It is like there are two demographics to this board; those who read and those who are massive retards.

>> No.18018256

>>18009178
Have you ever heard of the steam engine?

>>18018238
I agree, see these posts for a good example. Retard >>18009151>>18008511
>>18008413

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>>18018238
Those two demographics have a way of converging on the same spaces.

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tell me which of these three girls are virgins

>> No.18018739

>>18018602
None of them.

>> No.18018776

>>18018739
wrong

>> No.18018854

>>18018776
wrong

>> No.18018880

>>18018602
Look at how hard the first one is trying to act like it's a real woman, lmao.
Disgusting beast.

>> No.18018887

>>18018602
>girls

>> No.18018903

>>18018602
I feel so bad for trannies. If my sexual fetish to be shit on by women became a social movement when I was just discovering it I'd probably be out on the streets banging drums and demanding rights for shitlovers too.

It's like one giant scam to make a bunch of perverts admit their fetish in public. Imagine you're ten years deep into advocating for the Adult Baby Diaper Lover Party in parliament, you've written numerous books on the history of diapershitting and how it goes back to the ancient Aztecs, and then you it hits you. This is retarded. I'm just a guy who jerks off to diapers.

>> No.18018908

>>18007244
yeah well Mann was a homo

>> No.18018911

>>18018602
Left is a tranny so doesn't count. Right is caked in makeup and trying way too hard to look angelic. Middle could plausibly be virgin, but I still think all of them have some sexual experience.

>> No.18018967

>>18018880
it's a 16 year old cis girl, probably just autistic https://www.tiktok.com/@lunxacoz?

>> No.18018972

>>18018903
>>18018911
>>18018887
see
>>18018967

>> No.18018987

>>18018903
>>18018880
Lmao, animetrannies are so faceblind from consuming chinese cartoons they can't tell man from woman.

>> No.18018991

>>18007352
Mann is a non-entity

>>18007825
>Women don’t care...
>... Girls want to have fun
There it is. Most men have a live-in whore that settled on the animal instinct to maximize sexy sons & daughters

>>18008197
Suspected as much

>>18011682
BASED AS USUAL

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>A recent double blind study from the University of Wisconsin showed that females age 18 to 35 can detect whether or not a male subject is a virgin from facial cues and body language alone with up to 93 percent accuracy.

>> No.18020056

>>18019027
Incel bros... we lost.

>> No.18021130

>>18019027
Source? That would be an interesting study.

>> No.18021145

>>18019027
Does wearing an anime shirt count as body language?

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>>18019027
>A recent double blind study from the University of Me showed that females age 18 to 35 can't detect whether or not I'm going to suplex them until after I do it.

>> No.18021511

>>18005365
> Females are the niggers of gender
-t. Junger

I CAN'T EVEN

>> No.18021530

>>18021145
That's not language, that's screaming.

>> No.18021554

>>18021162
>t. spotted and dismissed by females between the ages of 18 and 35

>> No.18021607

>>18007685
>>18009928
No
This anon >>18008400 is right.

Junger was talking about Tinder (unironically) before Tinder was a thing.
A female can not live the sexual adventours life of a man. Females that want to act as men end up soul broken beyond repair.
Does not matter how empowered they act, with every dicking a female lost a bit of herself and every time the man get his own way after the dicking doesn't matter how much the female says she doesn't care, she dies a bit inside.

That's why, even if she is not a virgin, the less dicking the better.
Once the N count grows too large she can't properly function as a woman.

>> No.18021622

>>18005355
What the fuck.

>> No.18021624

>>18018967
> Every girl with a strong jaw and skinny neck/shoulders is now preemptively treated as a trannie

I blame the LGBTQ movement for this.
Autistic girls have a right to be loved and desired and not preemptively be discarded as trannies.
We need a final solution to the trannie problem that don't affect autistic girls.

>> No.18021629

>>18021624
>Autistic girls have a right to be loved and desired
The only right humans on this planet have is to suffer and die.

>> No.18021915

>>18021624
>Autistic girls have a right to be loved and desired
Even in an anti-tranny post, you had to simp.
Light autism is the cause of half of incelism, either autistic boys deserve love too or no one does (it's the second).

>> No.18021978

>>18007379
22 yo virgin (not kissless though). Girls think I have sex often, some of them assume I'm good at it, which I don't get since I'm not into casual stuff.

>> No.18022066

>>18014335
Because it is a system in which they can exercise agency and capital.

>> No.18022068

>>18005396
somethign weird I noted

-- I am a poet, and a poet sees obvious things which other men miss --

is that a whore tends to have sagging eyes, as if her own body is rebelling against her whoring.

Her soul wants to close up shop and say: no more, no more! And so he does so... like a marijuana smoker. Piteous. See Sasha Grey, et. al... God help them all.

We can be healed by grace, at least. Thank God.

>> No.18022077

>>18007244
no one has ever won the nobel lit prize who I enjoyed reading.

>> No.18022083

>>18011901
women are less lust ful than men

>> No.18022088

>>18007468
Christians will most likely think it is good, most women will be indiffernt, though it coudl be a red flag to thots

>> No.18022089

>>18022068
Sagging eyes are very likely consequence of sleepless nights, all they need are good night sleep and they would look like any other woman.

>> No.18022092

>>18014335
women enjoy it, men want it

t. tiresias

>> No.18022098

>>18018602
middle one... maybe. she's dancing like a little girl

>> No.18022107

>>18022089
nah it's more than that. I know pure girls who have dark cicles. It's more. It's the upper lids which sag. close relative to "sanpaku" those orientals eventually get something right. If they know something it is subjectivity (in a limited compass) and the body

>> No.18022894

>>18018602
middle without a doubt

>> No.18023345

Women are subhuman. I hate them more than anything else in the world. They are vile, repugnant beings lacking soul or humanity.

>> No.18023648

>>18005355
>Can you tell whether a girl is a virgin or not by her appearance?
Yes, and also by a defiant, steadfast mouth — regardless of sex.

>> No.18023704

>>18005392
You mean the most meme'd about passages from his diaries? The man spoke 3 languages, earned the Pour le Merite, was a renowned entomologist, and was one of Germany's most celebrated authors. How is he not a genius?

>> No.18023764

>>18007162
>Jünger still makes people seethe this hard
Absolute legend. I can't understand how someone loosely associated with the coup attempt against Hitler and who was arrested for said suspicions is a "fence sitter". Hitler explicitly ordered the SS to do nothing to him ffs and that's probably the only reason he wasn't just executed.

Also it shocks me how much of /lit/ has yet to read On the Marble Cliffs

>> No.18023797

>>18008441
Except he does aestheticize violence and technology , just not in a positive way but more in an extremely sardonic comparison to nature.

>> No.18024269

>>18023345
Inconceivably based.

>> No.18024442

>>18021629
this, but unironically

>> No.18024683

>>18021629
Well I'm halfway there.

>> No.18024696

>>18008362
You have clearly never read him. He was certainly no liberal but he had nothing in common with the nazis.

>> No.18024732

>>18008511
Read On the Marble Cliffs and you will understand how wrong you are.

>> No.18025530

>>18023704
>spoke 3 languages
less than the average modern European
>renowned entomologist
he was born into a family with a shit ton of money and collected bugs in his free time
>most celebrated authors
virtually all of the German intelligentsia of his time, including Mann, Benn, Brecht shit on his writings

It's okay if you like to read Jünger because you are a retarded American with no knowledge of World War I that romanticises Jünger as some sort of hero, but stop pretending he was anything more than a formidable mediocrity in his time. This is nothing like the case of Mishima, whose writings were universally lauded by contemporaries.

>> No.18025610

>>18018602
I doubt any are but middle is the most believable.

>> No.18025639

>>18025530
>Less than the average modern European
Yes, but this was at the time of WW1?
>he was born into a family with a shit ton of money and collected bugs in his free time
Now this is a cope. He's a genuinely celebrated figure in entemology
>virtually all of the German intelligentsia of his time, including Mann, Benn, Brecht shit on his writings
Despite winning multiple awards from the same german intelligentsia later on?
>It's okay if you like to read Jünger because you are a retarded American with no knowledge of World War I that romanticises Jünger as some sort of hero

Of course you're some prick, elitist eurofag who over estimates his own knowledge and through sheer narcissism spits on men who are far more accomplished than he would ever be. Ernst Jünger was a war hero for the Germans. It blows my mind how much shit Jünger gets from seething midwits to this day.

>> No.18025649

>>18025530
I actually think I hate you based on your opinions alone. Your opinions often match your personality and you are an extremely vain and shallow person

>> No.18025651

>>18025639
>It blows my mind how much shit Jünger gets from seething midwits to this day.
Then stop bumping the thread

>> No.18025657

>>18025530
Junger was seen as a literary genius by Gide and Gracq. Imagine citing Brecht as an authority.
I don't care about that aspect of him, but he's also a real figure among bug fetishists.

>> No.18025666

>>18025530
>Mann, Brecht
People who would be forgotten if it weren’t for their politics making people feel the need to praise them.

>> No.18025683

>>18025651
No, how about you stop having shitty opinions?

>> No.18025873

>>18025530
>less than the average modern European
the average modern european speaks one language. two if we only count people who go to university, except for anglos who still only speak one.

>> No.18026058

>>18006929
>>18007079
Lmao

>> No.18026064

>>18007162
>believing in modern "Germans"

Who cares about bugmen opinions, all of you are stain to germanic people

>> No.18026243

>>18025873
I am from Austria and I learned German, English, Spanish and Latin in school, keep coping.

>> No.18026301

>>18026243
>Was taught 4 languages but still doesn't understand how averages work
The absolute state of Austrian education

>> No.18026692

>>18026301
You can't blame the Austrian for that, I imagine they had German lessons instead of Maths so it's hardly fair

>> No.18027014

>>18007468
Purity was never valued in men.

>> No.18027034

>>18018602
None, and my dick doesn't care either. I'm still jerking off to the middle one.

>> No.18027164

>>18022092
Glad someone gets it.