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Anthony Kenny on Dawkins

>Moving from The Extended Phenotype to The God Delusion is like moving from the Financial Times to The Sun

Thoughts?

>> No.17994102

Yeah it's true.
Dawkins philosophical depth isn't profound and it's clear he is not fully aware of the literature.

>> No.17994118

>>17994044
Both in camps.

>> No.17994123

>>17994044
https://dlive.tv/StayteofMindTV

>> No.17994130
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I think if you've studied any theology or philosophy, Dawkins' arguments against God/Religion seem basic, even infantile. There are better critiques out there.

Having said that, Dawkins was instrumental in convincing a lot of laypeople (the masses, especially Americans) that it's okay to be an atheist. It sort of backfired a little with reddit-tier atheism, but the association won't last forever.

>> No.17994325

>>17994044
Dawkins is a based. He regularly triggers feminists and leftists alike, speaks out in favour of free speech, fairly criticises Islam and btfos any accusations of islamophobia. I don't belive in God, but his atheism I find annoying and overbearing.

>> No.17994726

>>17994325
He's an evangelist. Pretty weird to accuse someone who's job it is to push an idea "overbearing".

>> No.17994794

Dawkins writes for an audience that is a) already sure of its beliefs and only wants to be told how right they are, and
b) not very intelligent

>> No.17994802

>>17994794
if it normalises atheism then good. too much of human history has been intolerant of atheism.

>> No.17994880

>>17994802
You haven’t read enough history friend

>> No.17994885

>>17994880
talmbout soviet russia and albania?

>> No.17994899 [DELETED] 

>>17994044
>Some guy named reads newspapers.

Read a book, OP

>> No.17994910

>>17994044
>Some guy named Kenny reads newspapers.

Read a book, OP

>> No.17994917

>>17994910
>doesn't know anthony kenny
I think you're the one who needs to read books

>> No.17994930

>>17994910
>Some bitch named butterface reads 4chan

>> No.17994950

>>17994917
Some old modern philosopher? Big woop

>> No.17996301

>>17994950
>attempting to talk to holes

>> No.17996354

>>17994130
>I think if you've studied any theology or philosophy, Dawkins' arguments against God/Religion seem basic, even infantile
The thing is, you don't really have to go deep into any kind of school of thought or philosophy to realize religion, especially any kind that proposes the existence of an omni-anything being is fundamentally retarded. Just like you don't need a doctorate in the field of psychophysics to know that sugar is sweet.

>> No.17996394

>>17996354
>>17994802
>>17994325
Go back

>> No.17996528

>>17994044
seething cucktholic

>> No.17996587

>>17996354
Still, I don't think getting rid of religion as an idea is the way to go, rather the goal ought to be limiting the power of religious institutions to fuck over schools and radicalize morons. The idea that Jesus loves anyone is very useful in providing closure to 80 IQ pregnant retarded sexually abused crackheads to get their life together, just from a practical point of view it's naive to believe people can be swayed be "oooohhhh the beauties of science".

Honestly I still find Gould's NOMA to ultimately be the best viewpoint, religion is already trivializing itself, there's not point fucking with it unless it fucks with education.

>> No.17996605

>>17996587
>NOMA
Non-overlapping magesteria? Something.

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Forgot to sage, sorry. Thread is a bit silly.

>> No.17996660

>>17996587
No, just get rid of it and we can go from there. Why do we go about accepting falsehoods and then producing mental gymnastics to justify them? Just accept that stupid shit is stupid and move on. If your ideas can't go from there they're not worth shit. Don't give me that "religion for the masses crap".

>> No.17996687

>>17996605
Yeah. It's actually pretty funny how much of a materialist Gould was. He instantly shut down any discussion as soon as he smelled a hint of mysticism. https://youtu.be/RVrnn7QW6Jg?t=525

>> No.17996704

>>17996301
>holes
Anon, I...

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>>17996587
>dea that Jesus loves anyone is very useful in providing closure to 80 IQ pregnant retarded sexually abused crackheads to get their life together,
Religion in one sentence

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>> No.17996971

>>17996687
I'm not watching youtube videos.

>> No.17996979

>>17996925
t. Retard doesn't know what sage is.

>> No.17998032

Please explain, I don't know Financial Times nor The Sun.

>> No.17998052

>>17996354
Ah, to be 18 again.

>> No.17999456

>>17994044
dawkins is a midwit

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>>17999456
So, he towers over most of /lit/. I see.

>> No.17999555

>>17999500
so weird seeing you defend Dawkins, Stirner, and Marx

>> No.17999571

>>17994130
That tweet is actually quite funny and he has a point.

>> No.17999635

>>17999571
>>17994130
why cant you have a winged horse in darwinism?