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17940186 No.17940186[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>The greeks? Didn't they hate women and have gay sex with boys? Why are you reading them anon?
How do you respond?

>> No.17940195

>>17940186
I know how to separate authors from their works.

>> No.17940200

>>17940186
>Didn't they hate women and have gay sex with boys?
So do I.

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>>17940186
With Anne Carson’s Sappho
Robert Grave’s matriarchal theories
Mary Renault’s interpretations

>> No.17940204

"uuuh, check please"

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>>17940200
Lol same. mfw.

>> No.17940209

>>17940186
She looks like I blackmailed her and just wants to get it over with

>> No.17940210

>>17940186
Why is she eating bread with a fork?

>> No.17940212

>>17940186
"if we're not having sex tonight, I'll tell the waiter that we're splitting the check."

>> No.17940214
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17940214

Oh yeah
<—And

>> No.17940215

>>17940186
>How do you respond?
Fuck I've had this conversation so many times.
>Didn't they hate women
Some did, some didn't. Early Greeks philosophers show us reflexive thought at its inception, you shouldn't expect every aspect of it to be mature (obfuscation, hating women isn't immature, but that's what she'll want to hear). In fact the greatest philosophers distinguished themselves by having a much more lenient and positive view of women as a whole than their contemporaries.
>have gay sex with boys?
That happened in pretty much every ancient societies. Athen's society was actually really prudish.
>Why are you reading them anon?
Because it is the genesis of thought (that we have access to). Had the Aztecs given us philosophy, I would still read it despite the fact that their entire society was built around human sacrifice.

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17940222

>>17940210
That’s frosting from her pie slice

>> No.17940231

>>17940222
Checked
and how's the frosting on your pie slice tonight, butters?

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17940235

>>17940215
Hating women is immature

>> No.17940239

>>17940186
"The Asian woman behind you is more my type."

>> No.17940241

>>17940186
>DAMN, babe, you tryina get ganged up on and cancelled on social media? They'd be SLAMMING you from both sides with that cultural AND sexual normative attitude of yours. Have some respect for different lifestyles or you're going to have to be a hooker in Beijing or whatever it is Eastern European poorsluts did before smartphones.

>> No.17940256

>>17940235
>Hating women is immature
Meh.
More like having a adverse reaction to something so common and inoffensive seems an unreasonable waste of energy.
Point is, don't try to tell her the truth, always tell her what she wants to hear.

>> No.17940257

>>17940186
excellent question, I believe that twinks are superior to women in both physical and mental beauty but, in the end, one cannot reproduce with the same sex, so impregnating women, despite the disgust, is of great importance to the master race.

>> No.17940266

>>17940186
Lean back, smile and say that those were different times. Maybe follow up with something similar to the first half of what this Anon said >>17940215 and that’s it. She doesn’t seem to be the kind of person that’d be interested in that.

>> No.17940279

>>17940256
Theres no difference

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>>17940256
Meh. I dislike people who need to be lied to.
But I’m not in that house full of women I dream about presently either.

>> No.17940307

>>17940279
>no difference
between what? What she wants to hear and the truth? Have you seen the roastie in OP's pic? literally no chance this girl doesn't want to live in her own fantasy hollywood-movie fueled reality.
>>17940280
>I dislike people who need to be lied to.
Such are NPCs, and they make up the vast majority of people. Honestly it doesn't even depend on them or you, just on the gap between your respective IQs. More than ~30 points difference means you pretty much can't communicate anything else than simple commands like "me hungry", "please pass food" and "you horny? Me horny if you horny."

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>>17940280
so you dislike gaymen?

>> No.17940313

>>17940280
I have a couple hot women interested in me :3

But you know what Butters? I think you're included in my harem somehow. You are interested and I can tell

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>>17940307
Sad truth to it. Can hardly speak openly around progressives in my family. Can’t say a thing to the “conservatives”.

>>17940308
Just the ones who want to be women

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17940325

>>17940186
Yes, boys are for fun and women are for getting pregnant

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>>17940321
that isn't very woke of you

>> No.17940337

>>17940202
>Mary Renault’s interpretations
I don't know what you're trying to say, because Renault's interpretations are the gayest of them all. She was a bitter lesbian who hated herself and all women.

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>>17940321
>Just the ones who want to be women
*ahem*

>> No.17940355

>>17940215
Read Aztec Philosophy by James A. Maffie

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>>17940334
> That fucking jawline.
Nope. Nope nope nope!

>> No.17940374

>>17940355
Thanks, I like the review, will look into it.

>> No.17940392

>>17940186
Blonde women are unironically dumber than a shit house brick.

It's not a stereotype, it's flat out the truth.

>> No.17940394

>>17940337
Didn’t stop her from living with her girl.
I liked The King Must Die

>>17940346
You don’t have permission to post my mug, anon.

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>>17940392
a blonde sees a mirror at the bottom of a pool. What does she do? drown.

>> No.17940411

>>17940256
Don't respond to the Moth, ever.

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>>17940392
Ok, but she's clearly a natural brunette (and would probably be a lot prettier that way, with her hair in a french braid, perhaps on the darker side... hum... )... ?

>> No.17940419

>>17940186
By saying I'm going to the bathroom and just going home.

>> No.17940424

>>17940186
No woman on this earth gives even a single shit about this garbage.

You are daydreaming.

>> No.17940432

>>17940334
Funny thing about the backlash to JK Rowling etc is that feminism has always been at least suspicious of men (and at its most extreme, actively hateful towards men), and yet for decades this was seen as totally progressive and fine, until it happened to be directed at men who want to become women. Suddenly the radfems go from being toast of the town to persona non grata, all in a very short space of time.

>> No.17940435

>>17940394
That's not you dawg

>> No.17940447
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17940447

>>17940411
Nobody cares what you think.

>17940435
It is my picture.

>> No.17940454

>>17940411
Anon is correct. Besides it is a fake.

>> No.17940464

>>17940454
true

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>>17940186
Oh, you have such creative insights. Sigh... to think, Mishka, that you don't apply it to your endeavours. Fork up! Now pout.

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>>17940464
>rumor iz true cuz I beliebe fellow trolls
Doesn’t even matter

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>>17940485
nice try discord tranny

>> No.17940508
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>We’re posting animé nao
A TERF tranny. Huh.

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>>17940492
Discord trannies aren't half as bad

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17940516

>im so smart that social movements don't affect me

>> No.17940545

>>17940492
>>17940512
Cishons and trannies are functionally identical.

>> No.17940568

>>17940235
Hating women is based

Kys tranny. I bet you smell like anal which means slight residual poo scent.

>> No.17940574

Shitting a thread is shitting a thread, no matter which way you wrap it up.

>> No.17940600

>>17940574
truth is anon, thread was shitted from the start

>> No.17940615

>>17940334
>Shamrowicz
Well, at least it wasn't a White man that we lost

>> No.17940623

>>17940392
Not true. Blondes have slightly higher IQs on average. Northern Europeans aren't as superior as early 20th century racialists would have you believe but they are slightly smarter.

>> No.17940633

>>17940600
I count 3 posts until Butters came in and 26 posts until the first mention of trannies.
Very low Butters to Trannie ratio, in comparison, and especially considering TTB (Time to Butters) was itself incredibly low (which tends to make the BtT ratio skyrocket).
It could have survived.

>> No.17940646

>>17940186
I'd probably interrogate playfully until it became obvious that her opinion was not her own then back off immediately. That's it. If I wanted to fuck her beforehand I would and if I didn't I wouldn't be on a date with her.

>> No.17940655

>every thread with Butters in it turns into garbage

Every damn time

>> No.17940662

>>17940392
It's social conditioning. :3

You really have no idea how bad it is, simply because the people who run the government/media/public education want to push certain ideal models of behavior in people. :3

Hair color really has no bearing on the intelligence of the individual.

And Butterfly REALLY wants my dick. Which is awesome. Because she's older. I guess.

>> No.17940670

>>17940662
Actually it is kind of sick. :3 The ashkenazi Jew is considered 'white' or even stigmatized to point out the race.

The blondes, are generally considered childish so that they can be 'ordered' by the controlling powers that be. Generally speaking this is resisted more these days (again, TV has lost popularity), but there will not be significant change until the centuries-old conflict dies.

>> No.17940683

>>17940655
Butters is not solely responsible.
She won't leave. At least not because some cunt is posting a picture of a dirty pair of panties. You fags should have figured that by now. Most of her posts are (admittedly terrible, but) on topic when she isn't replying to (you)s. At this point you fags share the blame at least equally, if not in majority.

>> No.17940692

>>17940683
How is the thread itself not off topic?

>> No.17940701

>>17940447
This might be the most repulsive image I've seen all week. I honestly have no idea why corrective violence towards women is so frowned on. She needs a good slap for making such a disgusting and pathetic face.

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>>17940655
>didn’t check the OP

>>17940633
Know what would save us from insufferable anonymous posters turning this into an r9k clone?
Insta-bans for using the word

>> No.17940704

>>17940692
anything that gets him yous is fair

>> No.17940707

>>17940692
By virtue of being a relatable experience to philosophy majors going on a date and discussing what they read.

>> No.17940709

>>17940702
You're no better then the r9k woman haters buggers

>> No.17940710

>>17940701
Wow. Fall onto a rusty nail, Mr. Edgester

>> No.17940730

>>17940707
> philosophy majors going on a
The Greeks are far more than your damn philosophy.

>>17940709
Bullshit. Here’s that You you crave.

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>>17940702
>Insta-bans for using the word
I would go for one warning then instaban, but hey, I agree with you on this.
Still hate your guts, but that's because you're an Anglo Leaflet that I can't tame with my powerful FrogLeaf cock...

>> No.17940738

>>17940730
omg the tranny gave me a (you)!

>> No.17940740

>>17940186
>Didn't they hate women and have gay sex with boys?
They did hate women, but that's besides the point, they did not have gay sex with boys.

>> No.17940748

>>17940257
basiert

>> No.17940750

>>17940740
It was male youths

>> No.17940752

>>17940750
omg he gave me a you/1

>> No.17940756

>>17940730
They hate women. You hate trannies. A distinction between you isn't of any value.

>> No.17940763

>>17940750
Butterfly, homosexuality was despised as being a corruption. Read the Laws.

They romanticized young boys, which is significantly different than fucking. :3

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lmao anyone knows that twinks exel in mental and physical beauty

>> No.17940774

>>17940756
I don’t hate them. Certainly not the pathological hatred these robots have. I don’t blanket hate groups. (Okay, unless it’s a group with expressly hateful ideals. It’s late) Only hateful individuals

>> No.17940780

>>17940774
>>17940756
Butterfly simply correctly recognizes that God makes you a certain way for a reason :3

Stop tainting her head with 'hate'. She is too pure for you.

>> No.17940782 [DELETED] 

>>17940774
You call them mentally ill and fetishists. You spread the same verminization they do about women in order to justify their violent fantasies. You feed the hate machine just as they do. At least they own it.

>> No.17940785

>>17940774
You call trannies mentally ill and fetishists. You spread the same verminization robots do about women in order to justify their violent fantasies. You feed the hate machine just as they do. At least they own it.

>> No.17940791

>>17940740
>>17940763
Anon, the Laws is written by a political radical named Plato who wants to overturn traditional Athenian society.

>> No.17940809

>>17940785
That is why they are this way. But I have no violent fantasies about them. I want them well again. There’s no comparison

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>>17940186
>The greeks? Didn't they hate women and have gay sex with boys? Why are you reading them anon?
Because I need to know how degenerate they were in order to end the occidental civilization once for all.

>> No.17940822

>>17940813
uber

>> No.17940849

>>17940763
>homosexuality was despised as being a corruption.
Most public display of sexuality were outright banned, but boy love was still rampant. Prostitution was illegal but there was still a market for it, and whores were noted for being ridiculously overpriced in Athens (I remember reading that a man's year worth of salary was generally considered the benchmark, depending on the social class).

>> No.17940864

>>17940813
based latino poster

>> No.17940872

>>17940186
Women are the scum of the earth. The only reason gag acceptance ever became legitimate is because of w***n.

>> No.17940879

>>17940809
You're a bafoon if you don't realize how that rhetoric leads to hate and violence against them. Many will claim that women have outstepped their bounds and they only intend to bring them back to their proper role. You are as full of shit as people who say things like that, you're both just after policing behavior and using the smokescreen of i-know-better-than-you to justify your whims. Aren't you supposed to be a fan a Stirner? A revolutionary? Don't you complain about the loss of energy for "the movement" from vegan purists? How can you justify yourself policing and moralizing about what's best for trannies and lay claim to that kind of rhetoric? How can you not recognize you're using the same nonsense people commonly used against lesbians only 30 years ago?
Don't you tell me you're better then they are again.

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17940880

>>17940872
Seethe

>> No.17940885

>>17940872
>gag acceptance
You are going to have to go into details here.
Not that gagging is not gross, but I fail to see the relation here.

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>>17940879
Are you even trans?

>> No.17940927

>>17940911
You're the one who thinks it matters

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>>17940813
it is coming, brother, it is coming...

>> No.17940941

>>17940785
... but they *are* mentally ill fetishists?
It isn't like those things are rare in our society. Trannies are hated here because they are reddit incarnated, but if it wasn't for the deep trauma they inflict on themselves the problem wouldn't draw so much ire.
You don't see schizo footfags hurting themselves because of it.

>> No.17940958

>>17940927
No. I try to avoid talking about it at all. Anon are the ones obsessed with them.

>> No.17940979

>>17940958
Yet you show up in every thread that mentions them and reply to posters who call you trans to deny it. If it didn't matter to you you would ignore them. It's very clear it bothers you when you're accused of being trans. You're as obsessed as Anon, but maybe you have trouble remembering since you are sometimes not yourself, or rather it's not always the some one playing you.

>> No.17940981

>>17940849
>>17940791
>political radical
>Plato

He taught in the Lyceum for christ sakes. That was a Greek school. You know nothing.

In addition, The Laws being different is due to it being the only Platonic dialogue without Socrates. That being said, it is even a better indication that homosexuality is looked down upon.

>> No.17940997

>>17940981
How the fuck do you read my post>>17940849
and equate that with the idea that Plato was a radical?

>> No.17941004

>>17940997
How can you have such tunnel vision? I quoted two posts. I understand you may not want to be grouped in with his opinion, but I did it for ease of response and simplicity.

>> No.17941009

>>17940979
False.

>> No.17941011

>>17941004
So... nothing you said relate or contradict what I said?

>> No.17941024

>>17941011
The second statement primarily is in contradiction to your statement that 'boy love was rampant' and the glorification of sexuality of it.

>> No.17941046
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17941046

I spy with my little eye
A black hole
An abyss that shall never be fulfilled.
Complaining and nagging
For all of your days
Is the price ye shall pay
For getting to play
With a wet hole with a say
In all your affairs from here on out.
She'll make you miserable
Without a doubt.

>> No.17941049

>>17941009
>false
Get out here you liar
Ive seen you roll into threads multiple time to post Atemis and some shit about them being men. I've seen you say "that's a woman" to any number of bait threads where anon jezzabel posts and claims it's a tranny, which often times it is. I've seen you get btfo on your shit reading zeros and ones claiming that book was anti trans.

>> No.17941071

>>17941046
>An abyss that shall never be fulfilled.
dicklet cope

>> No.17941077

>>17941071
Talk to me after your second divorce.

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>>17941077
>second divorce.
I'm a lawyer.
Check and mate, motherfucker.

>> No.17941141

>>17940880
(((They))) fear homoeroticism because it elevates masculinity to something sacred, the polar opposite of today.

>> No.17941200

>>17940981
Plato was completely at odds and disgusted with traditional Athenian democracy and values and in both Republic and Laws proposes a political system radically divergent from the status quo. The Laws cannot be taken to represent conventional Greek opinion, especially since a character is proposing a ban on pederasty, whereas his other dialogues simply include it as a reflection of daily life.

>> No.17941320

>>17940235
hating women is based
hating mothers is immature

>> No.17941329

>>17940394
Hey, I love Renault, I'm just saying.

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>>17940186
>that wrist angle

>> No.17941445

>>17940186
>Didn't they hate women?
>Yes
>Why are you reading them anon?
>they hate women

>> No.17941453

Why do women exist? I mean, what is their purpose in life? As far as I can tell it's to make themselves look pretty so someone can take a picture of it and then to get their fuckhole cummed in. Imagine if that was all your existence amounted to: being a narcissistic cocksleeve.

>> No.17941455

>>17940186
"i mean i wouldnt call non penetrative thrusting between the thighs sex, but that's just me"

>> No.17941464

>>17941453
Women are the female equivalent of a faggot. When you're with a woman it's the same as being with an insufferable bitchy faggot man but he happens to have some physical differences so you think it's not the same. But they're just faggots in the end.

>> No.17941674

>>17941445
>Please daddy can I suck your dick

>> No.17941680

>>17941453
Why don't you have sex and find out, Mr. Incel?

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>>17940215
>Because it is the genesis of thought (that we have access to)

>> No.17941832

>>17941680
Will putting my dick in a woman make me think they have a purpose other than putting my dick in them? I'm not sure I follow you.

>> No.17941845

>>17940280
ripe booba

>> No.17941850

>>17941832
Just have the sex already (assuming you're not a terminal sexual reject) and we can talk then

>> No.17941855

>>17940280
Butters I can't help but notice that you seem to have latent sexual repressions which feed into your neurotic behaviour on this site. Maybe you should go have sex? Also read Freud (pbuh)

>> No.17941865

>>17941850
>Dude pussy get pussy to understand that women have value other than pussy you need pussy women have worth seriously but you have to get pussy okay anything you say I will respond with pussy because I have nothing else I could possibly defend women with other than to appeal to their pussy
You're not doing yourself any favors. This behavior only helps convince people that women are nothing more than holes.

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>>17941865
Well that's just terminal sexual reject talk, maybe there's no hope for you after all. Sad.

>> No.17941881

>>17941872
>Pussy pussy pussy
I am convinced this is the only redeeming value of women since that's the only thing they can ever point to about themselves.

>> No.17942731

>>17941736
> Thinks Eastern "philosophy" is philosophy
madlad.