/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17931093]

Where does /lit/ stand on the 'Paperback Vs. eBook' debate? As much as I love paperback books, ebooks are far easier to obtain and you can get many of them for free.

[Anonymous No.17931112]

Check the catalog faggot

[Anonymous No.17931128]

Books in foreign languages are much easier to obtain in digital form. I use both, the physical medium holds no importance, only the ideas written matter.

[Anonymous No.17931177]

>>17931093
>can’t beat the feel of paper
>traveling is so much easier with an ereader
>imagine paying for books when you could just download them
>I like the look of my shelves too much
>kobochads rise up
>nooo! I forgot to charge my ereader!
kill yourself for asking this question again

[Anonymous No.17931224]

>>17931093
Both are good, it really just depends on your preferences.

[Anonymous No.17931230]

I will not eat bugs
I will not read ebooks

[Anonymous No.17931234]

/lit/izens are babies and are not quite capable of standing, yet.

[Anonymous No.17931257]

I don’t care how other people read their books. As long as they’re reading books

[Anonymous No.17931426]

>>17931128
>Books in foreign languages are much easier to obtain in digital form.
True. You can get pretty much all books in english in digital form but in my native language; unless the library got it to borrow as as ebook, i'm pretty much screwed.

[Anonymous No.17931440]

>>17931093
I always get the ebook first
if I like it and want to study further I get the book if it's reasonably priced because I think I'll read it more carefully with print
on the other hand every time I've done this I soon gave up on the book and moved onto another

[Anonymous No.17931449]

>>17931093
If you want retention, print books is the way. If you want easy access, ebooks is the way.

[Anonymous No.17931522]

>>17931093
e books a just better all around. pretty much zero downsides.

[Anonymous No.17931533]

>>17931093
why do people waste their time making these pointless threads when they could be reading instead? now you've gotten me to reply to this pointless thread, fuck you OP.

[Anonymous No.17931664]

>>17931533
You didn't have to do anything, you know.

[Anonymous No.17932828]

>>17931093
staring at screens and reading is not the same as reading a book and is bad for your health. Theres a reason why they are given out for free.

Theres also the benefit that you know that no one or AI can hack into your hard copy and change the text.

[Anonymous No.17932868]

I recently went through my first and, hopefully, last e-book experience. I had purchased the device, a K*ndle from Am*zon, on which Mr. Bezos and company had preinstalled, I would say, a 50th-rate postmodern novel by the overrated David Foster Wallace called "Infinite Jest." And by pressing a button, I was able to "read" through this. I found it not a good experience, whether in terms of the quality of what I was reading or the ghastly procedure that I was following.

[Anonymous No.17932881]

>>17931257
This. I prefer physical books, and I love to collect them, but I don't give two fucks how people read.

[Anonymous No.17932886]

>>17931522
>walk to my favourite park
>get out my ereader
>out of battery
>can't read my book
>stuck with a piece of useless hardware until i go home and charge it
>day ruined
many such cases!

[Anonymous No.17932888]

>>17931093
Audiobooks > eBooks >>>>>>>>>>>>> Print books.

[Anonymous No.17932967]

>>17932828
Why isn't healthy? Give me your reasons

[Anonymous No.17933886]

>>17932886
This literally never happens. You charge it once every two weeks or something during the night and that’s it

[Anonymous No.17933958]

>>17931128
Yeah this

[Anonymous No.17934011]

Physical books leave a memenusis symbyote in the psyche. This helps to form stronger memories.

[Anonymous No.17934025]

You literally don't retain information from ebooks. It's a scam to make people think they are reading more while they are actually gaining less.

[Anonymous No.17934039]

>>17933886
These guys think e-readers have to be charged as frequently as their mobile phones. How much power consumption do you think e-ink screens take desu? 1 charge every week or 2.

[Anonymous No.17934099]

>>17934025
I’m sorry, I didn’t retain anything of what you wrote since I read this on a screen. Shame.

[Anonymous No.17934184]

HUY GUISE, HOW ABOUT WE take the publishing industry, which, although it is fleetingly free today, has time and time again throughout all ages been subject to oppression and censorship, and let's put it entirely into the hands of 2 or 3 international companies with a PROVEN RECORD of authoritarianism and censorship and hellish corporate liberalism, and let's let them lock it all down with proprietary standards, and force all books to go through their platform, and track what you read and use it to target advertisements at you. There's no way this can backfire.
t. unironic K*indle uses

[Anonymous No.17934197]

"ebooks" are not books

[Anonymous No.17934221]

>>17934184
>buy Kindle
>perform factory reset first time you open it
>skip the login with amazon option
>turn on airplane mode
There you go, no ads, no targeted advertisement and other jewish trickery. If you get lucky with software you can even jailbreak it, or just load ebooks with calibre like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.17934238]

One branch that rarely thrives in this perennial thread is the typography question. If you are a little thoughtful or take care to notice such things, you can really appreciate the beautiful typesetting of a nice book, e.g. Everyman's Library or the Folio Society. Granted this is an artistic outlook, not really a literary one, but IMO it is still part of the overall reading experience and worthy of consideration.

My Kindle (ancient version, 10+ years old) utterly butchers the typography of every book I have ever read on it. No custom fonts, terrible justification engine with underfills/overfills every page, etc. Is it still like that? Or has it improved?

[Anonymous No.17934242]

>>17931093
I just like physical books, even if they are exceptionally expensive for the stuff I want. Only problem sometimes is that the higher range ones (+$100) don't have ebooks at all so I have to buy it.

[Anonymous No.17934267]

What’s the best ebook for a newbie? I want to be able to use multi language dictionaries when I’m reading in foreign languages

[Anonymous No.17934292]

>>17932828
E-ink screens are made for reading.

[Anonymous No.17934296]

>>17931093
I have a bad eyesight, so either I try to read paper books with a LED magnifier or I read an eBook on a back-lit e-ink screen with a high legibility font.
Easy choice.

[Anonymous No.17934455]

>>17931093
OP is an electronic fan faggot

[Anonymous No.17934898]

>>17932828
Wrong, wrong and wrong again.

[Anonymous No.17934945]

>>17931093
i get most of my fiction books through libgen cause there is no way im dropping 50+ a month on books by dead authors. I buy a paperback for non-fiction as I find it far easier to study and sort the book on paper.

[Anonymous No.17935123]

>>17932828
>is bad for your health
It's not an LCD.
>Theres a reason why they are given out for free.
Literally where?
>no one or AI can hack into your hard copy and change the text
There's no assistant nor editor on ereaders and you don't have to turn wi-fi on.

[Anonymous No.17935617]

ebookfags always give this:

take it wherever you travel
take it to the beach

like nigga, how rich are you that you can travel 24 7, and why woul you be reading of all things? enjoy your fucking vacation

[Anonymous No.17936841]

>>17931093
Paperbacks are cheap and disposable.

[Anonymous No.17936873]

>>17931128
Does anyone know of a libgen like solution for Japanese novels in Japanese? I was not able to find anything.

[Anonymous No.17936935]

>>17936873
Just don't be a fucking otaku you moron.

[Anonymous No.17937003]

>>17936873
https://b-ok.cc/

[Anonymous No.17937085]

>>17931093
eBooks
>no book spine problems
>can take my library to the shop, bus stop, park, mall, etc
>easier navigation, again due to not having to hold the spine down and a digital table of contents allowing me to jump from any section in the book
>can take annotations and modify them however I want
>easier bookmarking
>ability to search for any word or phrase in the book, or even better, multiple books at one time
>ability to save all of my annotations, bookmarks, books, papers in the cloud or my PC by pressing a single button
>ability to change font color, size, and style (so if I wish, I could download an epub of Hume's Essays and read it in the original font, or I could get Goethe's Tasso and read it in Fraktur)
>can take screenshots of multiple pages and share them with my friends
>can instantly translate any foreign phrase into my language (no Latin or Greek though)
>have access to the entire OED and can look up even the most obscure words in an instant
>have access to other foreign dictionaries in French, German, Russian, Italian, Spanish, Polish, etc
>have the option to speed read certain books by pressing a button which will presents the entire text in a series of discrete words one at a time whose speed can be changed to whatever
>can request entire books to be read by state of the art Voice technology, again, in multiple languages (example:https://vocaroo.com/1nBi4Bz2x8sR))
>able to read books not only from the 19th century, but also medieval manuscripts and modern florilegia
>books are free

[Anonymous No.17937272]

>>17937085
Ok anon, you've convinced me.

[Anonymous No.17937314]

I don't agree to the idea of "showing off" or having "clout". I'd rather people assume that I'm just a vidya gaymin nerd with no interests at all, than to discuss with them my fascination with Milton and 17th Century Metaphysical Poets

[Anonymous No.17937396]

>>17937314
I agree with this. Most people ask what you're reading, you tell them, and they go "oh cool" and change the subject.

[Anonymous No.17937571]

>>17931093
How many studies will it take for digifags to finally understand that you can't remember shit on screens as well as on paper? Oh wait...

[Anonymous No.17937586]

>>17937085
>spends all this time reading and annotating and translating and hoarding
>can't recall anything he read a week later
you will not experience this reading on paper

[Anonymous No.17937603]

>>17931093
I've paid for zero books and I can read in the dark with the backlight + sync content + positions to my phone for free.

Bookfags can keep their retarded ass page feel, I am saving literally hundreds of $$$$$.

[Anonymous No.17937623]

>>17937586
Proof? The only argument for this that I can think of would be that reading on a device doesn't produce impressions of the same strength that paper books do.

[Anonymous No.17937687]

>>17937623
if you're someone who spends a lot of time reading from a screen (like you are right now here on 4ch) then it's less likely you'll retain what you read from ebooks, as it will more likely blend in with all of the other noise you spend time reading online.

Physical books make a far stronger impression if the majority of your other reading/interactions take place in front of a screen.

[Anonymous No.17937709]

>>17937687
I honestly wish I could read more paper books, but the ones I want to check out are very expensive, so I go the alternative route and boot up my ereader

[Anonymous No.17937789]

>>17937687
>can't remember half the shit on physical books I read
>can remember it all from ebooks
It all depends if you like it or not. That's one of the ways your brain transfers info from short to long-term memory, the other being repetition.
t. read Peak, which contains studies on this

[Anonymous No.17938121]

>>17931093
Honestly I like paperback books for the aesthetic, while I like eBooks for the easy ability to search words and to read without having to maneuver myself around a light source (or ruin a books pages with a book light.)