/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17921140]

why is every author left wing? every book i read has what can be described as a left wing social message.

[Anonymous No.17921179]

Conservatives are incapable of being artists

[Anonymous No.17921189]

>>17921140
Stop reading 20th+ century writers

[Anonymous No.17921194]

>>17921140
stop reading gay shit

[Anonymous No.17921206]

Stop reading shit books.

[Anonymous No.17921368]

>>17921140
Basically every author before 1950 would be considered a Nazi today

[Anonymous No.17921381]

>>17921140
Hard to write anything new about returning to tradition that hasn't already been written by the people who's tradition you want to return to.

[Anonymous No.17921391]

Because it takes intelligence to write books, since intelligence comes out of flexibility and being able to change your mind. Conservatives by their very nature can’t do this, and have become completely stuck in the past, and deny any indication of time moving forward. I don’t know how they live with themselves by the way, being stuck in a static world, like Groundhog Day, but forever, while also living in complete denial

[Anonymous No.17921438]

>>17921391
Nice projection

[Anonymous No.17921444]

>>17921140
this just isnt true

[Anonymous No.17921448]

>>17921368
Imagine unironically believing this retarded shit

[Anonymous No.17922405]

>>17921140
They want to see the world and all the people in it in ways that are not true. Because they cannot simply look around and see reality, they try and create their own reality through writing believing if enough people can all think and believe the same wrong things it will make it true enough, or as true as they care for anything to be.

[Anonymous No.17922408]

>>17921140
left wing social and reactionary interpersonal is the makings of an artist

[Anonymous No.17922416]

Right wingers tend not to read or write many books.

[Anonymous No.17922427]

>>17921140
Right wingers suck at creating art.

[Anonymous No.17922447]

>>17921140
the famously left wing social messages of the Odyssey, the Divine Comedy, and Hamlet

[Anonymous No.17922456]

>>17921140
Most people today are left wing
And of course there are restrictions legal and societal for right wing

[Anonymous No.17922457]

>>17921391
It's not about intelligence, it's about artistic leaning people being high on a trait called openness, which is also related to receiving different ideas, thus being left-leaning.

[Anonymous No.17922462]

>>17922427
Disagree. Most people today are leftist because that's the mainstream ideology (status quo) but in the past most artists were right wing.

[Anonymous No.17922472]

>>17922457
>related to receiving different ideas, thus being left-leaning.
surely nobody believes this in the year of our lord 2020
there are a whole lot of ideas they are not only not open to receiving but want you to not ever be allowed to talk about them

[Anonymous No.17922481]

>>17921140
Because they are disconnected from reality

[Anonymous No.17922521]

>>17921448
Nice rebuttal.

[Anonymous No.17922533]

>>17921448
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.17922535]

>>17922472
you don't really know what a leftwing person is

[Anonymous No.17922538]

>>17922521
>>17922533
you will always be incel freaks

[Anonymous No.17922540]

rent free, the thread.

[Anonymous No.17922554]

>>17921391
>since intelligence comes out of flexibility and being able to change your mind.

I did change my mind. I used to be a Jon Stewart libtard when I was a teen. Reading books is what led me to understand that some things were simply better in the past. We should choose what works best, not what is new and trendy.

[Anonymous No.17922559]

>>17922535
yeah a leftwing person is anybody who is good
a rightwing person is anyone who is bad

[Anonymous No.17922562]

>>17922554
t. has read like 10 books

[Anonymous No.17922567]

>>17922535
they are faggy little conformist revolutionaries, basically biological detritus

[Anonymous No.17922568]

>>17921140
That's because you're superimposing your lens on politics onto literature. You may as well ask why every prophet is left wing. Every religious text I have read has what can be described as a left wing social message.

[Anonymous No.17922570]

>>17922562
Even if that were true, 10 good books is worth more than 100 shitty ones.

[Anonymous No.17922620]

>>17922538
seethe, cope, and dilate

[Anonymous No.17922622]

>>17922567
>conformist revolutionaries

[Anonymous No.17922636]

>>17922622
yes they conform to the safe revolutionary options the state allows them to larp as

[Anonymous No.17923109]

I have read some books written by conservatives but then again I'm not reading what I hate just to get mad.

[Anonymous No.17923121]

[Anonymous No.17923134]

>>17923121
hohoho my fucking based lord has provided us with the perfect conception of 4chan.

[Anonymous No.17923145]

>>17923109
I think the biggest problem with conservative writers is the amount of grifting. So many just shit them out for profit rather than having any sort of compelling thesis. They are generally just big books of complaints with not much in the way of novel solutions.

[Anonymous No.17923648]

>>17921179
Sorry

[Anonymous No.17923688]

>censors all writers that aren't left wing
"gee, why aren't there right wing authors?"

[Anonymous No.17923693]

>>17921179
>Lefties are incapable of being artists
Sorry for the typo guys

[Anonymous No.17923708]

>>17923145
>I think the biggest problem with leftist writers is the amount of grifting. So many just shit them out for profit rather than having any sort of compelling thesis. They are generally just big books of complaints with not much in the way of novel solutions.
I've been making typos constantly today

[Anonymous No.17923739]

>>17921140
what fucking books do you read where every single one has a left-wing message?

[Anonymous No.17923767]

Happy, well-adjusted people don't typically become authors. By and large, most authors are rejects from normal society for some reason or another. Their motivation to write is the pain, perceived unfairness of, and/or revenge for their rejection by society.

Conservatism values adherence to tradition and the established order over everything else. Social rejects aren't typically conservative, because their disagreement with tradition and the established order is what caused their rejection from society in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17923772]

If you want a job, you have to kowtow to the system.

[Anonymous No.17923786]

>Before the civil wars, even those who most disliked the opinions and manners of the Puritan were forced to admit that his moral conduct was generally, in essentials, blameless; but this praise was now no longer bestowed, and, unfortunately, was no longer deserved. The general fate of sects is to obtain a high reputation for sanctity while they are oppressed, and to lose it as soon as they become powerful: and the reason is obvious. It is seldom that a man enrolls himself in a proscribed body from any but conscientious motives. Such a body, therefore, is composed, with scarcely an exception, of sincere persons. The most rigid discipline that can be enforced within a religious society is a very feeble instrument of purification, when compared with a little sharp persecution from without. We may be certain that very few persons, not seriously impressed by religious convictions, applied for baptism while Diocletian was vexing the Church, or joined themselves to Protestant congregations at the risk of being burned by Bonner.

>But, when a sect becomes powerful, when its favour is the road to riches and dignities, worldly and ambitious men crowd into it, talk its language, conform strictly to its ritual, mimic its peculiarities, and frequently go beyond its honest members in all the outward indications of zeal. No discernment, no watchfulness, on the part of ecclesiastical rulers, can prevent the intrusion of such false brethren. The tares and wheat must grow together. ...

>Thus it was with the English Nonconformists. They had been oppressed; and oppression had kept them a pure body. They then became supreme in the state. No man could hope to rise to eminence and command but by their favour. Their favour was to be gained only by exchanging with them the signs and passwords of spiritual fraternity. ... The sincere Puritans soon found themselves lost in a multitude, not merely of men of the world, but of the very worst sort of men of the world.

[Anonymous No.17923796]

>>17921179
>art
>fungible if not functionally identical to every other piece of 'art'
lol no

[Anonymous No.17923798]

>>17921140
They're not. They just don't get published. Here:

[Arktos Media](https://arktos.com/))
[Ostara Publications](https://ostarapublications.com)
[Antelope Hill Publishing](https://www.antelopehillpublishing.com)
[Taxiarch Press](https://www.antelopehillpublishing.com/associated-publishers))
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[Castle Hill Publishing](http://castlehillpublishers.com)
[Holocaust Handbooks](http://www.holocausthandbooks.com)
[Counter Currents Publishing](https://www.counter-currents.com)
[samisdat.info](https://samisdat.info)
[Black House Publishing](https://www.blackhousepublishing.com/bookshop))
[James Lafond's Books](http://www.jameslafond.com/?f=store))
[Third Reich Books](https://third-reich-books.com)
[Refractor Industries](https://www.refractorindustries.com)

[Anonymous No.17923809]

>>17923798
What about Antaios?

[Anonymous No.17923820]

>>17923145
This is because rightist solutions require things that are socially taboo while leftist solutions are accepted as insane/fantastical regardless of their potential for taboo. It's just as demented to suggest transsexuals aren't mentally ill or are actually capable of changing their gender or that socialism works or that whites and non-whites are intellectually equal, but people tolerate these ravings like they might the delusions of an overprivileged child, they are almost quaint rathe than frightening like say the suggestion that we rationally should engage in eugenics.

[Anonymous No.17923824]

>>17923809
My list is of anglophone publishers. But thanks for telling me about them.

[Anonymous No.17923840]

>>17923820
>they are almost quaint rathe than frightening
That is not at all the reason. A very large fraction of the population feels very threatened by things like the tranny phenomenon.

"Leftist", i.e. Jewish, agendas are supported by media and institutional power.

[Anonymous No.17923853]

>>17921140
Why does porkie love lefties so much, and fear the "far right"?

[Anonymous No.17923856]

>>17921140
Because being right-wing is fairly unheroic. Not to say it's bad and that no right-wing traits ever show up in heros. But what are some common heroic characters traits we see? Almost always its about fighting for the weak, providing for those who can't provide for themselves, selfless service for the sake of others.

People admire selflessness, even right winged people praise saints and people who are genuinely good. But when it comes to politics these traits tend to fall on the left winged side.
Providing Healthcare or aid to the poor? Left.
Fighting for the sake of the poor and giving them opportunity? Left.
Wanting to distribute wealth from the rich to the poor? Left.

That's not to say the right is meritless when it comes to how the real world functions. But when it comes to heroic having a hero say
>Yeah well fuck those guys. I'm not fighting for the poor because some of them might be lazy and asking for handouts!
Makes for a really shitty hero.

The right ring aspects shine more in character traits where they're pious, have traditional values, and usually get their own strength via their own power.
But when it comes to how the hero interacts with the world at large and what makes his actions heroic, the left is objectively more idealized and thus more heroic.

[Anonymous No.17923868]

>>17923856
>Codreanu’s most effective propaganda in these years was to be work, action, and the example. Hundreds of voluntary labor camps of the Legion, then called the TPT Party, dotted the map of Romania, repairing village bridges, roads, and churches, building dams, digging wells and working “for the collective and national solidarity.” In these camps, the boyar son worked side by side with the son of the laborer and the peasant, creating a powerful feeling of national unity and renovation. If the new intellectuals who graduated (or failed to graduate) in creasing numbers from the universities and joined the ranks of the Legion were strongly anti-Semitic because of the Jewish middle classes blocking their way, the lower classes came to the Legion because they hoped to fulfill their desires for a social justice on a national rather than a Russian Bolshevik platform.

>As the Legion increased in importance, it had to take a certain number of stands on practical issues of the day despite its acute revulsion to dealing with the problems of the sordid twentieth-century industrial age. These stands and attitudes were taken on an ad hoc basis when the Legion had to face them, and the result was a curious mixture of their ideology and more realistic considerations. Although it concentrated its activities in the villages, the Legion formed the Corps of Legionary Workers in 1936 and in addition to the dozens of labor camps, Codreanu ordered the Legion to enter a very new field for Romanians, commerce. He wanted to prove that not only Jews could be successful in this area.” In less than a year, the Battalion of Legionary Commerce founded a chain of Legionary restaurants, groceries, and repair shops covering Bucharest and the provincial towns. The income from these establishments financed vacations for underprivileged children and provided funds for the movement.” Besides the commercial establishments, there was a Legionary welfare organization, and steps were taken to organize Legionary cooperatives. At the opening of the Legionary sanatorium in Predeal, different payment rates were established. Everybody was to pay according to his conscience; the poor were not to pay at all.

[Anonymous No.17923872]

>>17923868
You too.

[Anonymous No.17923878]

>>17923853
Because capitalism can commodify literally anything but Aryans.

[Anonymous No.17923883]

>>17921140
cause you read shit books faggot

[Anonymous No.17923886]

>>17923820
It is less controversial to suggest giving hormones to children than to say that democracy might not be such a good idea.

[Anonymous No.17923890]

>>17923856
the left despises the poor, and ridicules the so called "white trash". everything you said is stupid, get a job

[Anonymous No.17923896]

>>17923856
>Almost always its about fighting for the weak,
Blacks, muslims, gays, feminists arent weak, they are all predators.

White children and old grannies are weak.

The left fights to uphold the rights of predators and are not fighting for the weak

[Anonymous No.17923898]

There are more great conservative artists because conservatives value cultural heritage much more than leftist do. Leftist art is basically just hurr durr lets chimp out and burn shit, then feeling sad about how we chimped out and burned everything of value. That's leftist art.

[Anonymous No.17923905]

>>17923868

[Anonymous No.17923908]

>>17923890
>Well achtuckally they hate white people!
Cool kid. Take it to /pol/.

Would you consider this following trait left or right wing
>character robs rich assholes and then proceeds to give the money to all the poor people equally

[Anonymous No.17923916]

>>17923856
You are laboring under the ignorance of artifical jewish mythology. The right is full of heroes who fought for the weak while facing terrible odds.

Compare and contrast Homage to Catalonia with Mine Were of Trouble. The entire Spanish Civil War was a triumph of right wing heroism.


Mine Were of Trouble is especially elucidating in this context, as it details exactly how leftist propaganda was used to create a bogus myth of leftist heroism on an international scale in real time.

[Anonymous No.17923925]

>>17923908
It can be either. It's funny how leftists always assume no conservative would have ever supported helping the poor and punishing the immoral rich. It goes to show how completely their understanding of political thought is limited to contemporary America.

[Anonymous No.17923928]

>>17923908
Do these poor people deserve it? Because giving money to criminal inner city blacks wont solve anything, while giving the money to slighty less well to do whites will.

Leftwing justice is giving money to predatory elements. Usually predatory elements are also poor.

[Anonymous No.17923931]

>>17921140
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_seeking

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/culture/is-there-a-'liberal-gene'/4817/

Though I hear the concept of a direct "liberal gene" has been pulled back from and DRD4 specifically denounced as a direct cause. Whatever, pussy modern sensibilities that can't say anything too forward. It's out there somewhere in some form.

Liberalism is genetic. And it's associated with openness to new experiences. That is, do you take a different route home for fun, or do you take the same over and over? Do you re-read favorite books often or do you always hop to something new? This should have obvious overlap with creativity. If you're skilled but not creative, experimental, or open to the new then you are likely to be Thomas Kinkade. Doing one established and safe trick well is okay for amateurism, but leaders of the pack have to do what everyone else is doing plus something fresh done well.

This exclude almost everyone with a "conservative" psychological disposition.

[Anonymous No.17923932]

>>17923896
=)
If you just wanted an echo chamber for your conspiracy theories I don't understand why you'd even bother asking a question pretending to try to understand the other side of an argument.

If you merely wanted to circlejerk about your political conspiracy theories. There's a board for that, and it's not the board about literature.

Enjoy your circlejerk though anon
^_-_-_^
= <> =
(")_(")

[Anonymous No.17923933]

>>17921140
During the 19th century the classic creators of literature, the nobility, went through a precipitous decline in socioeconomic status and influence, therefore creating a vacuum of sorts in the world of literature. This vacuum was filled by the then emergent middle-class, urbanite bourgeois bunch, who unsurprisingly espoused views that benefited their socioeconomic class just like the nobility did prior to them.

Since nobility effectively went the way of the dinosaur this bourgeois class has effectively complete hegemony over the mainstream art world, which explains the ideological uniformity among mainstream high-class artists.

[Anonymous No.17923939]

>>17923908
Is anything i said was wrong? the left do hate white people.

[Anonymous No.17923946]

>>17923933
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that the change in the socioeconomic makeup of authors more or less happened around the end of the 18th century, during the 19th only a couple vestiges and larpers remained.

[Anonymous No.17923948]

>>17923908
Right wing anti-capitalism:
https://counter-currents.com/tag/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest/

>As far as financial morals are concerned, I should say that from being a country where practically everything and anything was for sale, Mussolini has in ten years transformed it into a country where it would even be dangerous to try to buy out the government. In other countries they excuse inexplicable perfidies by saying “These men are personally honest.” I am now quoting an admiral : “All I know is that all these men are my personal friends and I assure you that they are personally honest.” The implication being that they play the super-crooks’ game because they are stupid and hoodwinked.

>A capacity for being hoodwinked is not in itself a qualification for ruling. It is, let us admit, often a means of getting office in countries where office is elective. Jefferson thought the live men would beat out the cat’s-paws.

>The fascist hate of demi-liberal governments is based on the empiric observation that, in many cases, they don’t and have not.

[Anonymous No.17923949]

>>17923931
>And it's associated with openness to new experiences
Then why do leftists keep repeating the same talking points and keep doing the same shit. Leftism acts more like autism then openness. Even these arguments of yours are just lies you repeat over and over.

[Anonymous No.17923953]

>>17923932
>all races are EQUAL AND VALID XXDDD!!!!1111
Take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.17923958]

>>17923932
Ah cant awnser me?

All the groups leftists support are predatory.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.17923969]

I know you all think this is thread is relevant to the board, but it really isn’t.

[Anonymous No.17923974]

>>17923925
>>17923916
There's a difference between no right winger ever helping, and certain traits not falling under right wing ideology.

Nobody exists solely on any one side. It's a political spectrum for a reason. People take the bits and pieces they want.
No sane human being would side completely with the "right" or the "left" and assume all their policies without question.

But there are trends to what falls on either side. Right tends to value individual ability and freedom. Which is fine when it comes to their desires but it also means it's focused on the self and improving one's self through one's own ability.
The left focuses on community and society at a large at detriment to yourself. You sacrifice your own ability and savings for the sake of everyone, so that eventually it comes back to you and overall everyone benefits.

Heroic acts fall on both sides, but the ones people admire more tend to be on the left.
A dude can save his wife from the underworld. Thats a more right falling act. But it's also more selfish and oriented about one's own desires. It's impressive and thus heroic. But not particularly anything people look up.

Meanwhile everyone loves Robin hood the communist lefty. Because he's helping people. And people admire those that help others, which is a more left leaning trait.

And yes. Most right wingers do have some tolerance for left ideals. But it's still a left policy even if the right agrees with it.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.17923980]

>>17923958
Leftists don’t support Catholic priests, salesmen, most politicians and psycho killers.

[Anonymous No.17923988]

>>17923974
Nup, white lefties mostly just hate white people, all their ideology could be boiled down to out-group preference. look at this chart >>17923939

[Anonymous No.17923989]

>>17921140
>who is Celine
>who is T. S. Eliot
>who is Pound
You get the idea

[Anonymous No.17924000]

>>17923980
big cope. lefties are the establishments, and everything they do is in support of it.

[Anonymous No.17924018]

>so the reason for your observation is because lefts tend to be more selfless.
>/pol/: BUT WHITE GENOCIDE! THE LEFT HATES WHITE! THEY WANT US DEAD! ALL LEFTIES ARE THE SAME!
Take your pills kid. Jesus christ.
You'll be so much happier if you stopped obsessing about conspiracy theories and identity politics.

Literally nobody in the real world gives a flying fuck

[Anonymous No.17924039]

>>17924018
>lee /pol/ boogieman
meds schizo

[Anonymous No.17924074]

>>17924018
GET OUT REVISIONIST

[Anonymous No.17924189]

>>17923856
>? Almost always its about fighting for the weak, providing for those who can't provide for themselves, selfless service for the sake of others.
>People admire selflessness, even right winged people praise saints and people who are genuinely good. But when it comes to politics these traits tend to fall on the left winged side.
>Providing Healthcare or aid to the poor? Left.
>Fighting for the sake of the poor and giving them opportunity? Left.
>Wanting to distribute wealth from the rich to the poor? Left.

[Anonymous No.17925180]

>>17923856
Get the fuck out of here with your jewish golem conception of a hero. Thats not what heros fucking are. A hero is someone who accomplishes great feats. Achilles sure as shit wasnt "protecting the weak"