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17887976 No.17887976 [Reply] [Original]

>I just imagine books like a movie
Did movies ruin literature? It seems like anyone who would say they read or write books like they see a movie is lacking imagination and/or a soul.

>> No.17888175
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17888175

>Going through Goodreads reviews
>"I don't find the characters likeable, didn't root for any of them"
>"The characters' motivations didn't make sense"

I would say the blame is on TV rather than cinema proper. Those HBO shows with huge ass casts have warped how young people approach stories.

>> No.17888208

Movies can be good and show stuff from an interesting perspective. But imagining shots like from an average Hollywood garbage movie is basedboy tier.
I myself imagine books both as pictures and as kind of symbols of what I read. I can sometimes "see" a flavour or an idea but I couldn't paint what I'm seeing

>> No.17888214

>>17888175
>"The characters' motivations didn't make sense"
When is this criticism unfit?

>> No.17888377

>>17888214
Characters don't need motivations for anything. Why the fuck would the judge give a page long monologue explaining why he's raping this particular injun?

>> No.17888443

Imagining books like a movie is sort of like using a 5000$ PC to play Minecraft. Books are a vastly superior medium because they need not concern themselves with the linearity of time flow and superficiality of visuals.

>> No.17888461
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>watch a movie
>imagine what it'd be like as a novel

>> No.17888463

>>17888443
exactly

>> No.17888814

sometimes i imagine i'm a director and in charge of every aspect of production for an adaptation of the novel i'm reading, from pre to post. i imagine entire days of filming on location and building relationships with the cast and crew, pulling a malick and telling the cameramen to shoot the birds flying overhead, and then pissing off the author by cutting out half the dialogue (even though i filmed it), rendering the plot incomprehensible, and delivering a 90 minute visual poem that only vaguely resembles the original novel

>> No.17888857

>>17888814
and of course i fought for final cut so the studio is forced to release it

>> No.17888860

>>17888377
>Characters don't need motivations for anything.
yes they do. they just don't need coherent motivations.
Their motivation could be "I need to fuck the space demons out of my cat to keep the golden gate bridge from collapsing" but that's still a motivation.

>> No.17888988

>>17888814
Based kubrickanon

>> No.17889009

>>17887976
My mind produces more a kind of false memory of a dream when I read books, it's not a smooth movie-like procedure, but the flitting and vague flashes of dream content.

>> No.17889028

>>17887976
>movie is lacking imagination and/or a soul
As opposed to what, comic books?

>> No.17889035

William Shakespeare, Literary Genius: I love plays and wrote most of my work with the intent of being visually performed
Cristopher Marlow, Literary Genius: I love plays and wrote most of my work to be visually performed
James Joyce, Literary Genius: I love cinema and started a irish cinema company
William Faulkner, Literary Genius: I love cinema and wrote several screenplays
Cormac Mccarthy, Literary Genius: I love cinema and wrote several screenplays
An Autist on /lit/: NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LOVE CINEMA IT'S NOT HIGH ART NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.17889058

>>17887976
ok dumbass

>> No.17889062

>>17887976
You have to imagine books like a movie, or you can't write them, fuckass

>> No.17889069

>>17887976
what else do you imagine?

>> No.17889148

>>17889035
>A play and a movie script are the same thing
really bro?

>> No.17889158
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17889158

>Imagine books like watching anime

>> No.17889221

>>17889148
Movies are just plays with more freedom

>> No.17890144

>>17889158
I've tried to do this but I just get bored. I can only imagine Judge Holden falling down stairs into a compromising position so many times.

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>> No.17890150

>>17889148
Why not? Most screenplays and plays I've read have similar format and content.

>> No.17890791

>>17890148
heh heh...

>> No.17891463

>>17888443
>they need not concern themselves with the linearity of time flow
same applies to film, watch more films, then comment on cinema as an art form

>> No.17891478

>>17888377
Bad example. The judge is the personification of chaos and war, ofc he will not make sense.
Those dubs were wasted btw

>> No.17891511

>>17888377
>Characters don't need motivations for anything.
yes they do you retard. Character motivation is one of the core principles of good storytelling

>> No.17892339
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>>17888443
>Books are a vastly superior medium because they need not concern themselves with the linearity of time flow and superficiality of visuals.

subjective opinion from an insecure pleb

>> No.17892371

>>17889148
>>A play and a movie script are the same thing

they´re not because films have a lot more going on besides a script, it´s the formal relationship between cinematography, lightining and sound, a good filmmaker knows also how to use it in a way that can elevate the narrative of a story

>> No.17892530

>>17891511
Watch less anime