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Isn't there something a bit hypocritical about depersonalizing non-dual trads who still want the highest spot in the Hindu heaven? in b4"Just desire not to desire, bro."

>> No.17867639

>>17867613
moksha isn’t heaven, moksha obviates all
notions of superiority and inferiority

>> No.17867735

>>17867639
moksha is the highest though

>> No.17867882

>>17867735
Wanting to attain moksha doesn’t mean you want to become superior to others, so its not hypocritical. From Advaita Vedanta’s perspective everyone’s spirit or consciousness is equal and the exact same, living beings only differ from each other in the exterior and non-essential layers added or superimposed on top of this omnipresent and undivided spirit.

>> No.17868432

>>17867882
so then it doesn't matter if you don't attain it

>> No.17868489

>>17868432
It doesn't matter to God, who is always eternally free and complete. It does matter for embodied beings because until they attain the complete realization of God, they remain ignorant of the eternal reality that their own Self is and they suffer accordingly because of this.

>The realization of this identity is brought about through Yoga, that is to say, through the intimate and essential union of the being with the Divine Principle, or, if it is preferred, with the Universal. The exact meaning of this word Yoga is in fact 'union', neither more nor less, despite the numerous interpretations, each more fanciful than the last, which orientalists and Theosophists have suggested. It should be noted that this realization ought not strictly speaking to be considered as an 'achievement', or as 'the production of a non pre-existing result', according to Shankaracharya's expression, for the union in question, even though not actually realized in the sense here intended, exists nonetheless potentially, or rather virtually: it is simply a matter of the individual (for it is only in respect of the individual that one can speak of realization) becoming effectively conscious of what really is from all eternity. That is why it is said that it is Brahma which dwells in the vital center of the human being; this is true of every human being, not only of one who is actually 'united' or 'delivered'-these two words denoting the same thing viewed under two different aspects, the first in relation to the Principle, the second in relation to manifestation or conditioned existence

René Guénon - Man and His Becoming According to the Vedānta, page 31