To the suicidal Anon that posted yesterday, I hope you are feeling better

[Anonymous No.17807450]

If you are reading this, I want to let you know that I have been thinking about you for the past day. I hope that you are feeling better and remember, you will always have people here on /lit/ that care for you.

Stay strong brother, and keep walking, the tunnel may be long, but it WILL end; things WILL get better.

[Anonymous No.17807470]

>>17807450
I said I was going to do this and I’m glad someone else did. I too hope you’re alright sudokuanon. Keep on keeping on we believe in you

[Anonymous No.17807523]

>>17807450
Do you ever think about the amount of anons that post on 4chan before they kill themselves? Like we shared their last moments before the end, we saw a glimpse of them at their lowest and that’s it. We could have bonded together in a thread or taught eachother something and never even realised it. Truly heartbreaking. From the bottom of my heart I hope all suicidal anons find some kind of peace in this lifetime

[Anonymous No.17807533]

>>17807523
considering that multiple shooters have posted their manifestos on imageboards before carrying out terror attacks, i would imagine that many of these suicide posts really were their last words

[Anonymous No.17807540]

>>17807450
Yet this post will continue to live on in the warosu archives, proving the anon's existence.

[Anonymous No.17807550]

>>17807450
Poor anon. I hope he's okay and didn't go through with it. I want to kms too.

[Anonymous No.17807563]

>>17807523
That's rough, mate. Rough :/

[Anonymous No.17807583]

>>17807550
I hope things improve for you. Remember this is your life and you deserve happiness

[Anonymous No.17807614]

>>17807523
It hurts too much to think about desu.

[Anonymous No.17807632]

>>17807450
I hope he is alive

[Anonymous No.17807646]

>>17807450
not related to literature

[Anonymous No.17807654]

>>17807646
who cares

[Anonymous No.17807673]

>>17807646
Read the room, bud. Please leave and take your complaints with you

[Anonymous No.17807684]

>>17807654
hanging out on a literature board for 12 years for uses other than discussing literature surely is not healthy and most likely contributed to his sodoku, or the mental state that brought him to it

[Anonymous No.17807687]

Fuck I hope he is fine

[Anonymous No.17807697]

>>17807450
I just said a prayer for him, hopefully he didn’t go through with it but if he did I hope he’s at peace.

[Anonymous No.17807702]

>>17807450
>always have people here on /lit/ that care for you.
you dont even know who I am. Empty platitudes like this just make people more suicidal.

[Anonymous No.17807704]

Does anyone know the name of the painting? It loos weirdly depressing but also comforting. I love it

[Anonymous No.17807720]

>>17807523
:(
Sad

[Anonymous No.17807742]

>>17807702
Not OP, but damn anon it would be an empty statement if it were to gain karma or likes. It's pointless here, and people genuinely worry about depressed anons

[Anonymous No.17807745]

ANONS HANG IN THERE IT GOT SOOOO MUCH BETTER FOR ME I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE I WAS SCEPTICAL OF IT

[Anonymous No.17807753]

>>17807704
I don’t know the name but I know it’s Edward Hopper

[Anonymous No.17807764]

>>17807450
Damn, maybe I should be nicer on here.

[Anonymous No.17807769]

>>17807702
Fuck you faggot.
Suicidal anon, pick up a comfy book, light a candle and make some tea if you can. Just read one night like this and enjoy getting into that book. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Anonymous No.17807775]

>>17807523
I still remember a thread of a suicidal anon I posted heavily in from fucking 2013. There may be a lot of threads like them, but they rarely go forgotten.

[Anonymous No.17807788]

>>17807684
it's funny how many of these suicide posts say something along the lines of "if not for 4chan i would have done it sooner." i'm really, really not sure. this place is terrible for your mental health.

[Anonymous No.17807809]

>>17807788
>this place is terrible for your mental health.
This but unironically. How the FUCK do I get out of here?

[Anonymous No.17807823]

>>17807809
Is this a meme? I see it a lot. I can leave here for pretty extended periods of time without it being a huge deal.

[Anonymous No.17807831]

>>17807788
It's hard to say if 4chan makes people depressed or if it merely attracts depressed people. Maybe it's a snowball effect

[Anonymous No.17807841]

>>17807823
Cherish that, anon. I for one am too weak to quit for any extended amount of time. In the odd occasions where I've had to be away from the internet for a few weeks or so, my mood brightens right up, almost so much that it scares me. This website and the internet in general is utter fucking poison.

[Anonymous No.17807844]

>>17807788
It's because you remember those years where you actually had fun here.

[Anonymous No.17807846]

>>17807831
Civilization in modernity produces depressed people, and on 4chan you can post honestly.

[Anonymous No.17807849]

>>17807809
i dunno. i've been here for 13 years and i've been able to take a day off, or reduce my hours, but i can't stay away. everyday I hope that during my morning piss, 4chan doesn't load on my phone. it went down, bye bye forever. but it always loads. and i'm still here.

[Anonymous No.17807853]

>>17807742
>>17807775
I am a suicidal anon. You are hearing this from the horses mouth. hearting people 'care' about means less than nothing. and heaaring stuff like this
>Suicidal anon, pick up a comfy book, light a candle and make some tea
is just laughable and so unsympathetic.

[Anonymous No.17807857]

>>17807788
imo it's good as a substitute / supplement for socialisation but long term I guess that could be bad. Other than that it's only a few boards that have the tendency to make susceptible people spiral down.

[Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ !!oI3er5KKetj No.17807864]

>>17807450
Yeah I’m sure whatever was driving him to the brink of suicide yesterday has dissipated overnight. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.17807872]

>>17807864
oh damn, didnt realize the ketj trip got broken

[Anonymous No.17807879]

>>17807788
It depends. If you’re just browsing boards like /lit/, /out/ /mu/, etc. (Hobby boards) it’s probably ok, though of course arguments and retard shit will occur. But if you’re consistently browsing on /b/, /r9k/, /gif/...places full of gore, cruelty, hatred, conspiracy theories, constant pessimism...even subconsciously it will get to you. I became numb to a lot of stuff here because of those places, and I think it killed a little part of me.

[Anonymous No.17807893]

>>17807879
all the bad feeling comes to the blue boards too. i'm not saying every board is hopelessly negative, but you bring up /mu/ and /lit/ and those are certainly tainted boards.

[Anonymous No.17807910]

>>17807853
If anything it means more coming from an anon who doesn't need to say something like that. He doesn't get the social credit score boost like if he were to pretend to care in saying it on FB or some shit like that.

[Anonymous No.17807951]

>>17807879
Yeah, I think it's close-to-impossible to be mentally healthy on some of the shittiest boards in here. This is tangential, but I knew one of the girls /r9k/ obsessed over irl, and once I found about this I went through the archives to see some of the stuff they had to say about her. Man, shit they had to day about her was disgusting; more broadly, the people there are incredibly misanthropic and self-hating. If one of the only rays of light you have in your light is posting about your degenerate fantasies about some random girl and your love/hate relationship with her, there's no way you can be leading a remotely fulfilling life. Spending time there with people of that mindset /cannot/ be healthy, even if you yourself are relatively normal. I'm glad I've mostly just stayed on /tg/, /mu/, and /lit/ since getting over my ebic 4chan phase as a teenager.

[Anonymous No.17807968]

>>17807879
/gif/ is fine, it's mostly just porn actually

[Anonymous No.17807986]

>>17807968
I was going there hoping for just porn, but it’s basically a constant war between BBC threads and fascist threads

[Anonymous No.17807996]

>>17807450

I'm at work, just took a call from someone asking for a service refund of 2$ and said the shame of begging for it made them think about killing themselves. Couldn't do shit because he was calling the office of the wrong State, so he ended up the call saying "time for words has passed, now is time for action, I will cut my throat with a knife" with his weak phlegmy pajeet voice.
I know he was just shitting me to get the money but God do I fucking wish he would do it.

[Anonymous No.17808030]

>>17807986
i can't get into the heads of people that make a porn board their home. i go there, find a thread, jerk off, to back to my board. who stays after cumming?

[Anonymous No.17808035]

>>17807450
I love you anons, there's nowhere else I'd rather waste my time on

[Anonymous No.17808041]

>>17807533
The first response when Tarrant (NZ Mosque Shooter) posted his plan was "You won't do shit nigger". Makes you think.

[Anonymous No.17808042]

>>17807986
It used to be mostly normal porn too, but these days it's like 80% bizarro mkultra shit.

[Anonymous No.17808046]

>>17807879
I used to check /pol/ from time to time whenever some massive political event happened just out of curiosity. I remember when that shooting happened in australia where the guy shot up a mosque I went on this degenerate board and the catalog was full of that. Just imagine waking up every day to force your brain into consuming this type of information on mass.

Unfortunately I actually watched that live footage of him killing those people.

[Anonymous No.17808050]

>>17807986
>but it’s basically a constant war between BBC threads and fascist threads

Who knew this would be the true fruits of Western civilization. The telos of history churned endlessly in order for cuckolds and Nazis to hate eachother on a Congolese basket-weaving forum.

[Anonymous No.17808053]

>>17807523
It's beautiful in a sense. To think that most people I've insulted on here I have also complimented without knowing it, and those who insulted me have also likely complimented me on other occasions. We laugh, we hate, we love, we cry, all together, and all without knowing eachother's names. We share our achievements our downfalls. We all bond over nonsensical images. 4chan deep down is the essence of comradery and fellowship. Nothing will ever change that.

[Anonymous No.17808065]

>>17808046
I still check pol when stuff like that pops off. I always watch the footage if there is any. I dont revel in it but I like to get firsthand information on things that will definitely be politicized later. To this day for example, most people have not seen the Rittenhouse shooting videos, so they dont know he acted in clear self defense, but I saw them the day it happened because I checked pol when the news broke.

[Anonymous No.17808078]

>>17808065
This is /pol/'s one redeemable quality. Everything else is lackluster at best.

[Anonymous No.17808084]

>>17808046
Yeah I watched it all too. I hate that I did but curiosity will always get the better of me, like how ill check out a rekt thread and regret it.
I still get weird, sad flashbacks to that video whenever I hear the song ‘Fire’ and that woman at the end begging for help...worst thing I’ve seen. And people worship him for it. At least most can see it for the depravity it is

[Anonymous No.17808093]

>>17808084
Jesus. I'm glad I closed it after I saw that first guy get shot.

[Anonymous No.17808110]

>>17807450
>>17807523
Was close. Turned out lymphoma putting pressure on your heart induces doom ideation. Maximize your chances spiritually and look after your body, it’s not necessarily completely down to the ego homunculus gremlin in your head

[Anonymous No.17808145]

>>17807450
>Not burning yourself to death WITH your books
Self immolation is the most /lit/ way to go. That's how I plan on killing myself

[Anonymous No.17808160]

>>17807646
>>17807684
Dude have you SEEN the catalog. This place has been getting worse by the day. At least this is a /lit/ post.

[Anonymous No.17808180]

>>17807583
It’s not that we don’t feel we deserve happiness. We feel intensely that we do deserve it. It’s rather that we feel as though happiness, or whatever it is that would give make life worth it for us, feels unattainable.

[Anonymous No.17808192]

>>17808041
glowies gonna glow

[Anonymous No.17808199]

>>17807879
It’s all the same. The place is a misanthropic time suck no matter what. How many anons pour their guts into a post here that would otherwise make for a great poem or a book? Too many. People forget that this place is social media of a different sort and the anonymity is extra addicting.

[Anonymous No.17808209]

>>17808084
>and that woman at the end begging for help...worst thing I’ve seen
remembering that part always puts a smile on my face to be desu, she sure did get helped lol

[Anonymous No.17808252]

>>17808042
I wish.
It is literally a battlefield for the asian incels vs white incels to fight and other faggots to come in and try to ruin it even more by spamming faggot and scat threads.
There is no way someone only slightly degen can go there with all the subhuman shit /gif/ spams.

[Anonymous No.17808279]

>>17808209
Cringeworthy edgeposting anon.

[Anonymous No.17808295]

>>17808078
I dunno, anon. The jews really do seem to be the most harmful minority within any given host nation. I'm well aware that we're pattern recognition machines and confirmation bias can easily create a false view of reality, but the jews really are at the end of every line of inquiry regarding the destruction of western civilization. Their own holy books also happen to promote it (Esau/Edom must be destroyed!). Their own rabbis promote it. At a certain point one must dismiss the idea of "coincidence".

Modern America is the Weimar Republic on steroids.

[Anonymous No.17808297]

>>17808279
I agree, but it's also worth remembering that it came at a time when ISIS was putting out execution videos regularly, people were getting mowed down by trucks across Europe, Bataclan happened, shoot even Charlie Hebdo was fairly recent memory. People had no catharsis for any of that, they were just called islamophobic, racist etc if they wanted justice for it. Not saying the NZ shooting was in any sense justified by any of that, but it's the reason it was so cathartic for pol types.

[Anonymous No.17808303]

I'm kinda suicidal myself. I've been gambling most of my life savings away. I'm directionless in life and I'm only 21. Quit my job because I hated my management. Haven't gone back to college because I'm poor and have no motivation. Lately, I have been thinking about going to university though. Was thinking about international studies since it seems like the only thing I'd be good at. I'm good at writing but hate to do it. I can't make up my fucking mind. Was gonna join the army and couldn't even do that.

[Anonymous No.17808306]

>>17808145
>Self immolation is the most /lit/ way to go. That's how I plan on killing myself
kek check out some immolation death videos in a rekt thread before you do.
After the skin burns off and all the gasoline has burned you are still alive for a while, but the initial pain has left since all your skin is gone.
You actually only die from suffication (due to the lack of skin) or from blood poisoning.
People say drowning is the worst way to go, but I am fairly certain for non-torture deaths immolation is the worst.
Its baffeling to see these fleshy skelettons walk about and with uncertainty search around themselves.
>>17808209
and for revenge ISIS killed a bunch of sri lankans kek
shit was actually funny.
manifesto was cringe though.

[Anonymous No.17808314]

I hope anon killed himself and found everlasting rest.

[Anonymous No.17808317]

>>17807788
I’ll go on several month gaps where I don’t post here and then come back and be really active. I don’t feel any difference in my mental health during those times but that’s just me.

[Anonymous No.17808321]

>>17808314
>rest
but anon, people who commit suicide go to hell.

[Anonymous No.17808352]

>>17808306
You think I'm just saying this ignorantly? I say it's the greatest way to kill yourself because death should be as painful as possible. We've talked about this already
>>17808084
>>17808209
I remember coming into school the next day and discussing it with a couple of my peers and friends. One of them had the video on hand so we showed it to the ones who hadn't seen it. A very surreal video.

[Anonymous No.17808353]

>>17808279
why is my edgeposting cringe but your "oh god the horror, won't somebody think of le poor woman" post wasn't? how certain are you that you're the sincere one, and i'm not?

[Anonymous No.17808355]

>>17808295
>jews really are at the end of every line of inquiry regarding the destruction of western civilization.
They are? I didn’t find this in my investigation. What are these Jew’s names?

[Anonymous No.17808377]

>>17808353
showing empathy for a (1) muslim (2) woman on 4chan is courageous and brave if anything

[Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ !!oI3er5KKetj No.17808391]

>>17807879
You should kill yourself

[Anonymous No.17808392]

>>17808352
your pain receptors burn off though and your body enters shock.
It is painfull for the first 20 seconds but then you are jsut waiting to slowly suffocate.
self-disembowlement is the way to go
>>17808377
wow so brave you will get obvious (you)s telling you stop being a faggot or worse a woman.

[Anonymous No.17808393]

>>17808295
Your best defense of /pol/ is the fact that its users believe something controversial? This is why people hate that board man. Even when you are right (which to be fair you often are), you are so insufferable jackasses and so belligerent that it makes whatever thread you're in worse. At least try to fit in with other boards' culture before preaching your ideology. The average /pol/ack also gives off an aura of being poorly read whether this is the case or not.

[Anonymous No.17808400]

>>17808377
i know, it's absolutely stunning. let's all stand and clap for anon, brave defender of poor muslim women everywhere! here, you dropped this kind stranger

[Anonymous No.17808419]

>>17808303
Please don't kill yourself anon, at 21 you have the health to waste all the time you need to. Pick any direction you please, you're allowed to turn around or fail

[Anonymous No.17808420]

>>17808392
That's not intense at all. Burning yourself to death is based. The most painful way would to just not kill yourself at all, then you could also slowly peel skin off. But the pain of burning is just one factor that makes it the best. There needs to be some brevity to suicide

[Anonymous No.17808423]

>>17808377
kill yourself fag

[Anonymous No.17808430]

>>17808393
>The average /pol/ack also gives off an aura of being poorly read whether this is the case or not.
every place on the internet not dedicated to reading is usually poorly read. best you get is eso or exoteric groups having read their specific literature, but you will find faggots on /pol/ who read 1k pages from some schizo russian who claims the world trade towers were detonated through 2 underground nukes.
>>17808420
shot in the heart with a .22
the DMT rush will be insane

[Anonymous No.17808485]

>>17808393
I don't disagree. It'd be nice if the board weren't filled with shills, midwits, and brainlets spamming HABBENING threads all the time. That said, the board's nature is pretty much guaranteed by the fact that the topics discussed are relevant to those in power. The ratio of authentic posters to inauthentic posters can't be very high.

Good threads aren't rare, though, even if they're buried in filth. The most useful content is usually nothing more than a collection of related facts (e.g. jews control mass media or pornography). Sometimes anons pop up with revisionist history that seems to bear out. Pretty sure I learned about Antony C. Sutton on /pol/, can't remember. He's worth checking out. "Wall Street and The Bolshevik Revolution" is a take on the events leading up to WWI that heavily cites primary documents from the time. It is a story that has never been and never will be told in primary education or academia.


>>17808355
Pick a topic.

[Anonymous No.17808501]

Okay retards, rein it in. Stop arguing about /pol/ shit. I feel like every thread devolves into this too often these days where faggots start arguing about hitler or kikes and do a stupid back and forth calling each other dumbasses. We have a whole board for this, it's called /tv/ so go back there

[Anonymous No.17808557]

>>17807646
mods banned him. that's the last thing he ever saw. imagine that. even the place you actually fit in, the place where you know neither face nor voice, but a place you still loved, is rejecting you in your last moment: all of it--just because of authority and power.

[Anonymous No.17808563]

>>17808485
Sutton is good but his books incriminate wasp elites not Jews.
>Pick a topic.
You said Jews are responsible for the destruction of western civilization so I’m wondering who specifically those Jews were.

[Anonymous No.17808572]

>>17808557
How can jannies be this evil?
How can God allow it?

[Anonymous No.17808575]

>>17808557
>>17808572
Meanwhile porn/fetish bait threads stay up. I'm all for better moderation but deleting a guy's goodbye while letting so much putrid shit stay on the catalog is just retarded. Too many "I hate women books for this feel" and twitter screencap threads

[Anonymous No.17808583]

>>17808419
I can’t speak for that anon but I can say that I’m also suicidal, or at least, I’m pretty close to being suicidal in the sense that I’ve considered it pretty much daily for a while now. So while I haven’t committed to it, it’s in the back of my mind. For me personally, being able to walk in any direction isn’t a liberating feeling. Fundamentally, I, and I think a lot of suicidal people, feel at odds with the world around us. There’s two problems there - the world, and us. The world is what it is and I think people find various ways of coming to terms with that and doing what they can to redeem it. That’s a struggle in itself but a much more difficult struggle is trying to redeem yourself. Do you know how it feels to just fundamentally hate yourself? To hate who you are? How you look? How you’ve lived? How you live? You can’t just erase who you’ve been, who you are, and teleport yourself to a new ideal present. That’s where the despair really sinks in, I think. What good is it to walk in any direction when your legs are broken?

[Anonymous No.17808590]

>>17808557
The mods are obligated to delete suicide notes or advice about methods I'm pretty sure

[Anonymous No.17808595]

>>17808297
If you're the kind of person that laughs when innocent people get gunned down in the street because they belong to a specific religion, or because they have the wrong skin color, you don't care about people getting shot in the street at all, even if they're white.

[Anonymous No.17808600]

>>17808590
they also delete lots of lit slice of life stuff, social threads. I doubt that above was a suicide note, I'd call it a social thread, but social threads are against board rules because it's not literature.

[Anonymous No.17808603]

To any other anons out there who are depressed, it never gets better. In fact it only gets worse. Most men suicide after 50. Look into your future, what do you foresee?

[Anonymous No.17808611]

>>17808600
The guy literally says he is going to kill himself lol

[Anonymous No.17808612]

>>17808563
Pick a topic. Mass immigration? The state of public education? The ownership of the media? The sexual revolution? Epstein and his blackmail ring? The origins of the world wars? The existence of Israel and the reasons for the Balfour declaration? The holocaust mythos?

[Anonymous No.17808621]

>>17808419
We'll see. It's been very tempting lately.

[Anonymous No.17808625]

>>17808603
>Look into your future, what do you foresee?
a cutie wife, adult kids I am proud of who call me on fathersday, Dogs who keep us company in the house, A small collection of old college/work friends who live in the not quite immediate area. :)

[Anonymous No.17808635]

>>17808590
Report them, I'm sure, deleting them sounds like going further than needed strictly by law.

[Anonymous No.17808662]

>>17808612
Ok public education

[Anonymous No.17808670]

>>17808612
You're deranged.

[Anonymous No.17808684]

>>17808612
>The holocaust mythos?

[Anonymous No.17808692]

>>17808603
If this were the case then suicide would be the leading cause of death for men above 50, which it is not. Seek help.

[Anonymous No.17808707]

>>17808603
It doesn't get better but it does get easier to develop coping mechanisms, I'm just going to guess you're too lazy and nihilistic to actually do that.

[Anonymous No.17808726]

somewhat relevant,anyone read that ebook called alone forever, which is an account of a fifty something anon narrating his life alone and how he planned for eventual unexpected circunstances without any exterior help and eventually anheroing if needed?
im young but im getting older and its so easy to not change anything about yourself, time flies by and you still dislike yourself,I never had self harming or suicidal thoughts but I wonder how I would act if I had early dementia or terminal disease living alone

[Anonymous No.17808727]

>>17808684
>Himmler Posen speech
given in 1944 to SS members: never even mentions the "death camps" or an organized effort to kill the jews; only seizing their possesions.
>Goebbel's diaries
i read them all. he never mentions the holocaust, but he does his digust in both Himmler and Heydrich
>Wannsee conference
ZERO records remain from that conference. it is all fictitous what is attributed to it.
>Hitler speeches in keking 39 LUL
he never mentions either death camps nor organized holocaust efforts.
>500 mass graves in ukraine
ukraine ahs seen multiple genocides in the last century. Stop trying to hoax them into kike holcaust mass graves entirely.
>too afraid to even mention the fake gas chambers, or lies regarding Zyklon B residue, etc. etc.

kek
I think Ill stop here.
Just watch this American JEW debunk your holocaust through his interviews at Auschwitz:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vAFKVGuW0QL1/

[Anonymous No.17808745]

>>17808393
>At least try to fit in with other boards' culture before preaching your ideology.
Those are just Normalfags.

[Anonymous No.17808804]

>>17808684
you’re correct but also a faggot for posting a reddit tier meme

[Anonymous No.17808851]

>>17808595
I'm sure you viscerally felt that was true when you typed it, but it's not true, sorry. I personally have friends who lol or seethe based on the race.

[Anonymous No.17808856]

>>17808727
too far gone. you'll never live up to anything. quit natsoc now. there are support groups

[Anonymous No.17808868]

>>17808856
>quit natsoc now. there are support groups
Im not NatSoc. I just don't buy the holohoax myth.

[Anonymous No.17808873]

>>17808727
Redpill me on Hitler's inner circle hating each other. Was Himmler an anomaly? Or were they all brutes?

Did Goebbels value truth or did all truth have to serve propaganda? Was he completely totalitarian? Or do we have a twisted understanding of what they meant by propaganda?

[Anonymous No.17808927]

>>17808662
>public education
Look no further than the migration of Frankfurt School luminaries to the newly established "Teachers College" at Columbia University. If that isn't enough to get you started I'll elaborate.

[Anonymous No.17808938]

>>17808684
>physical evidence

[Anonymous No.17808947]

>>17808873
The best propaganda is the truth. This is why so much censorship exists.

[Anonymous No.17808950]

>>17808873
>Redpill me on Hitler's inner circle hating each other. Was Himmler an anomaly? Or were they all brutes?
Most non SS hated SS. The more independant and vocal the more hated (goebbels feared Heydrich). Thats my understanding. I havent read a book specifically on the SS though. They are too occultist and obfuscated for me.

>>17808873
>Did Goebbels value truth or did all truth have to serve propaganda?
the reason I read the diaries was for learning Propaganda, but if you read Ellul, Bernays, Lippmann etc. you know that Propaganda is very versatile and dependant on every situation so generalizations are not fitting, but can still some what bemade:
Goebbels definitely always held truth highest and would not lie about the NSDAP or Wehrmacht's efforts. He would rather not talk about something in the media than lie. (i.e. post Stalingrad they didnt cope but instead he did the Sportspalast rede, aka "Wollt Ihr den totalen Krieg?"). He'd only lie about his opponents, by accusing them of things that can neither be verified easily or somehow fire back at him. To lie in such a situation was to create a more optimal playing field for himself.
> Was he completely totalitarian?
read Ellul. this is a silly question. He had Hitler at the highest position, seeing him as the Messiah, but the swings from totalitarianims to more democracy and back occured all in those 12 years already.
>Or do we have a twisted understanding of what they meant by propaganda?
Of course. Most People have a wrong understanding of what Propaganda is. Most are so naive and think they can identify it and then know to avoid it. Some morons even think Propaganda only lies. kek

Just read Ellul Propaganda (pic related).
Goebbels diaries are too long, about too much random stuff and most of it is written in this horrible 2 word sentence style. He is the greatest orator since Cicero though which makes it such a shame it is tabu to study him.

[Anonymous No.17808965]

>>17808856
the narrative has basically fallen apart anon. no one who looks into the details believes it anymore so the only thing they can do it shut down any investigation.

no lie can survive that for long

[Anonymous No.17808974]

>>17808950
>bernays
A jewish nephew of the jewish Sigmund Freud. He literally wrote the book on PR for American business/government. The book is titled "Propaganda". It discusses the importance of infiltrating centers of social centers of trust in order to push a message favorable to the infiltrators.

The book is a quick read. Can be completed on a flight.

If the idea of infiltrating centers of social trust in order to further the aims of a hostile group sounds ridiculous to any here, I urge those to open their eyes.

[Anonymous No.17809006]

>>17808974
>A jewish nephew of the jewish Sigmund Freud
sure but lets not attribute everything to him. He was a big fanboy of Lippmann, the first to properly pose the influence one can wield on public opinion in a proper format outside of actual Propaganda efforts. Bernay's jsut did the leap away from government to business.

the interesting thing is that BOTH defend the notion of democracy and the new found necessity for Propaganda to be employed to protect it. So it is not all
>further the aims of a hostile

Once one realizes civilization can't without Propaganda (Ellul) then it enters a new stage in the dialectic and can be perceived as virtuous. (look at modern day discussion in Game Theory for "Nudges")

[Anonymous No.17809015]

>>17807450
>>17807550
>>17807583
threads like this are why i haven't kms

[Anonymous No.17809019]

>>17807523
I feel like most people who make these kinds of posts are just looking for anons on the internet to pretend to like them. I've been considering kmsing for a while, but even if I decided to do it I wouldn't make a post like in the OP. The only outcome would be a handful of random anons who wouldn't even like me if they knew me posting empty platitudes about how much they care, and maybe a few of the more paternalistic individuals screeching about how I need to consider the feelings of everyone who knows me, as if I somehow owe a blood debt to the local grocery store clerk or my neighbor's dog.

[Anonymous No.17809039]

>>17809006
>Lippmann
Another jew.

>civilization can't without propaganda [sic]
No, but it can do without propaganda supplied by hostile jews. It can't do with it.

[Anonymous No.17809064]

>>17808377
Don't bother, the people you're talking to are literally subhuman. They don't even have the humanity of basic decency. It's fine though, "people" like that can only hide their nature from their friends and family (if they have any) for so long and "people" like that, who lack the base human emotion of empathy, are fundamentally unlovable and will never have fulfilling friendships or relationships because the only people who would accept them are people who are like them, who themselves are incapable of love for the same reasons. Leave this place and let the things here seethe impotently into the abyss, it's all they have.

[Anonymous No.17809070]

>>17808303
I can feel you anon, I'm finishing my major on communications and journalism but I ended up hating it and I wrote a text called "don't study this shit" but I haven't published yet. If I study that was just because I wanted to feel that I was good for something, cause I saw all my classmates in highschool choosing major quick and easy and I was like "I have no damn idea what I'm gonna do". Now I'm here, 23 and without a path to follow, just playing games almost all day without enjoying it. I must do my final project, but honestly I don't feel into it, just want to finish the university and that's it. I just want to feel happy, with a path, with a direction, with a purpose.

[Anonymous No.17809071]

>>17809006
>>17809039
Also: democracy is pants on head retarded. Why do you suppose that professional propagandists prefer democracy? Hmm? It is because propaganda is much more effective on people who are less intelligent and/or less well read. Democracy gives the future of a nation to its lowest common denominator. A propagandist's wet dream.

Nobility may err. The herd will err. The wormtongues of the world universally celebrate democracy, as their deceit will carry more weight when rubes have a say.

It's all so obvious and tiresome.

[Anonymous No.17809100]

>>17809064
>I'm a product of material wealth that I can't understand
>I pat myself on the back for inviting destruction upon the forces which have led to my own comfort/naivete
This makes sense. A civilization which has grown weak may only express its weakness through weak individuals. You are one of these. An unwitting destroyer. An attacker of your own heritage.

Brave?

[Anonymous No.17809107]

>>17809019
this. if ur going to an hero, go off in nature or somewhere remote to be alone and don't involve anyone. at least own that part of your life for yourself. don't tarnish your death.

[Anonymous No.17809109]

>>17809071
You faggot do realize the soviet union caleld and China and the DPRK still call themselves democratic, right?
Any study in propaganda will obviously make you question the possibility of democracy in the first place, but then also its validity there after; doesnt change that some places are better to live in than others and certain elements ensure that.

[Anonymous No.17809110]

maybe the suicidal anon was right

[Anonymous No.17809126]

>>17809064
>empathy, are fundamentally unlovable and will never have fulfilling friendships or relationships because the only people who would accept them are people who are like them, who themselves are incapable of love for the same reasons.
Why do you pretend that its only men voting fringe parties and hold "hateful" notions?
Just cause we won't be friends with george floyd faggots, doesnt mean the entire pool of humanity is exhausted by this.
Stop being so sexist anon. It is very rude.

[Anonymous No.17809127]

>>17809070
Holy based. Publish that shit. I've thought about writing for fun, but again, not really into it. And yeah, I also just play games all day and for the most part, I don't enjoy it either. Being directionless fucking sucks and people who have direction would never understand.

[Anonymous No.17809135]

>>17808927
Read pic related. It’s an excerpt from a document outlining the philosophy of the General Education Board created by Rockefeller. You can tell that the basic idea here is to not provide the lower and middle class an education equal to that of the upper class (which was feasible), but rather to optimize people to be better workers in the jobs they were born into as determined by their socioeconomic status. I suggest reading the Wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Education_Board to get a sense for how this organization worked. And it was only the first of it’s kind, similar organizations spawned after it.

I’d also add that this stance towards education is deeply un-American. Prior to the implementation of these ideas, America was the most literate country in history, an example for the rest of the world. We’ve fallen very far since then.

When it comes to the tired boogeyman of the Frankfurt school there is some validity. Marcuse, the “intellectual superstar” worked in the OSS psychological warfare division and his work is definitely a psyop to weaken the American public. But Marcuse’s evil doesn’t come from the fact of his Jewishness. He’s a bad guy because he applied his great intelligence to making propaganda in reward for a lavish lifestyle offered by the cia. And the cia then were a bunch of wasps like Rockefeller! Not Jews!

[Anonymous No.17809168]

>>17809127
I will anon, just want to finish it and I'm gonna publish it.

[Anonymous No.17809172]

There was one post a while ago that broke my heart. Some autistic kid (not in the pejorative sense) killed himself in a a lake. Some friend of his posted his gravestone and thanked us for making his life less miserable. I looked it up and yeah the poor kid just had a rough go.

I hope this anon is OK.it sounds sincere though. Rip

[Anonymous No.17809190]

>>17808419
That's a lie. You really only have until 24/25 before the fact that you're wasting time starts to become evident to the outside world and becomes an impediment should you actually decide to turn your life around. Unless you're exceptionally skilled at lying during job interviews.

[Anonymous No.17809218]

>>17809190
I'm not so sure about that. I feel like even as a 30 year old fuckup I could redeem myself as a productive member of society if I could bring myself to give half a shit about it.

[Anonymous No.17809232]

Goodnight anons. I hope heaven is real

[Anonymous No.17809237]

I was suicidal and attempted suicide, I spent 2 months in a hospital with a broken femur (that will affect me to the end of my life, but I can thankfully walk). But after that I sort of decided that I will not try it again. I decided to live. Before, I haven't really decided whether I want to live or not, and I was thinking about it a lot and did it on impulse. But if you actually come to a realisation that you want to kill yourself or want to live, it's easier. After that situation I kinda gained control over my life. I do whatever I desire at the moment and not what is appropriate "socially". So if I decide to sleep all day and it makes me feel good, it keeps me from suicide and makes me happy, so I'm going to be doing it if I want to. Before I was afraid of judgement, but now I don't care anymore. I feel happy, I remembered what life is. Now when I watch animals like cats or dogs, they're just pure animal cheerfulness that we used to have as kids too, but so many people lost

[Anonymous No.17809258]

>>17809218
I guess we have to define what "wasting time" is in this scenario. If you've been working unfulfilling dead-end jobs, merely having an employment history would drastically change their outlook on you, and you could easily contrive some sympathetic and digestible excuse like "oh I worked to support my sick mother and disabled brother etc. etc.". But if you're a NEET from 18 to 30, and decide to go to university? A glaring and indelible red flag would be on your resume, even if you truly did turn yourself around and were a stellar student, and by sheer number of applicants to every remotely tolerable or lucrative position, they could easily discard your application in favor of someone who followed the traditional route.

[Anonymous No.17809263]

>>17808603
What you described basically. Things getting harder and harder until I crack, which is where I’m basically at right now. I’ve already resolved to die a relatively early death if I’m a single man for sure. You know, people tend to think of depressed or suicidal people as either this acute or static thing. It’s as if they think that someone who is depressed has only ever been depressed for a year and the baseline depression is the same for that whole year. It’s been 13 years since I sat in my mom’s kitchen and burst into tears when I told her I don’t feel right. I was 14. It gives me hope to think that there are people who get better, who turn things around. I mean, I’m sure there are. At least on paper. But for me, I’d be lying if I said anything other than “every year has been just a little bit harder than the last”.

[Anonymous No.17809275]

>>17809237
A man only has the right to attempted suicide once. If you fail you must submit to the misery and anguish of your life. You get one chance to escape it and if you don't have the resolve you must accept the consequences. How did you even break your femur? Wouldn't you be trying to land on your head if you fell?

[Anonymous No.17809282]

>>17809258
The red pill (or black pill depending on how you look at it) is that there are no red flags anymore. You live in a world inundated with quantity (and variation) to the point where even differentiation becomes somewhat vague and meaningless. None of that stuff you think you’re flagging for matters anymore anyway either. If you were to NEET until 30 and go to University you might actually discover that firsthand.

[Anonymous No.17809292]

>>17809237
I really want to be like you before I go through with it, but I don’t know how to achieve that level of liberation. For example, I hate my job. I hate it so much I dread going. I would do anything to just stop. But I can’t bring myself to do it. I have no alternative and so I can’t live in the moment and I don’t know how to get to that place where I’m able to achieve it. That’s just one kind of minor example but you get the idea.

[Anonymous No.17809303]

>>17809237
>iktf

fucked me up big time bro

[Anonymous No.17809309]

>>17809275
I was very drunk and I slid from the edge of a window head down and I lost consciousness mid-air. I only remember smiling and then a free fall feeling on my body and then nothing. I woke up in the hospital with pain in my back, broken teeth and no feeling in my hands. I didn't even feel any broken bones in my leg then. The next thing is that I cursed my mother out and shouted at her a lot.
Apparently I fell on a bus stop, so maybe I fell weirdly on my leg, idk. I have an implant in it now. Also I'm a little underweight so that was probably a large factor too

[Anonymous No.17809310]

>>17809303
>broken femur (that will affect me to the end of my life, but I can thankfully walk)

this feel

[Anonymous No.17809368]

For anyone suicidal, please call on Christ. He loves you even when life is rough and wants happiness for you.

[Anonymous No.17809380]

>>17809368
cringe....

[Anonymous No.17809392]

>>17807450
Gay.

[Anonymous No.17809408]

>>17809258
I worked a summer job for high schoolers until I was 27, and for the last few years I've been working for a friend whose business doesn't actually make any money, I get paid for a small fraction of the time that I work (and I don't work very hard or very much), and I barely earn enough to feed myself. I'm about as near to a NEET as it's possible to get without actually collecting any neetbux.

I still think it wouldn't be too hard for me to clean my room, shave, get a job at a Walmart or something, and work upwards from there. But what's the point? Why live? And why prepare for the future when I don't really count on having a future to prepare for? I wish I would just die of something outside my control so I could get out of this hell of not quite being ready to end it all just yet, but not really having any hope of things ever changing.

[Anonymous No.17809409]

>>17809263
For real, people are so afraid to admit that some people are just depressed their whole fucking lives and there is nothing they can do about it.

[Anonymous No.17809411]

>>17809282
I understand what you're saying, in the sense that things such as a history of drug use, jail time, or explicit mental illness are accepted or even celebrated, sometimes even getting you a career on the sole merit of said formerly-red flags. I would qualify those as sympathetic excuses which employers might look past. It might be cynicism or plain inexperience on my part, but I don't believe the same applies to "directionless man who spent a decade in social isolation watching moe anime and playing MMOs". Especially taking into account the usual disposition of someone like that, which would be reserved and awkward, whereas a druggie homeless schizophrenic could be seen as affable. That isn't to say that all opportunities are lost to the NEET, just that many fields would be reluctant to give such a person a chance.

[Anonymous No.17809429]

>>17809292
Maybe trade some money you're getting for freedom.. Live poorer but freeer (work less hours). It depends on your needs, priorities and opportunities. Sadly people need some money to live. This idea probably doesn't apply when you live in Russia or sth, where you work a lot and still you're robbed of your money.

[Anonymous No.17809441]

>>17809135
>not jews
Which religion is it that envisions the enslavement of all other nations? Does the action taken by the GEB not further this aim? Coincidence? Maybe once. There are too many to count.

[Anonymous No.17809471]

>>17808053
Strange these emotions flourish in harmony when identify—a tool to tribally align or preemptively judge—is removed.

[Anonymous No.17809473]

>>17808053
identity*

[Anonymous No.17809482]

>>17809429
I’m not sure how I would achieve that. I work in a sort of bureaucracy. All of my pay comes in the form of stability, benefits, pension, stuff like that. My actual pay is paycheck to paycheck living standard. Idk. Maybe there isn’t a solution here. It’s not just my job or anything like that either. I fantasize a lot lately about forgoing suicide and instead just disappearing. You know? Going I don’t know, somewhere, doing something else. Leaving everyone and everything behind. I would just like to disappear.

[Anonymous No.17809485]

>>17809471
identity*

[Anonymous No.17809512]

>>17809485
no

[Anonymous No.17809527]

>>17807879
>hatred
Boards like /lit/, /mu/ and /v/ (basically boards dedicated to an specific hobby) are full of hatred. Half the people on /lit/ would tell you to fuck off if you read e-books or physical books, if you take care of your books or you rip them apart, if you read certain genre or you don't, if you collect books or go to the library, and God help you if you read comics. I've learned to ignore them, but it can be very fucking annoying if you aren't used to this shithole.

[Anonymous No.17809545]

>>17809441
>Which religion is it that envisions the enslavement of all other nations?
White people have been trying to subjugate the earth since at least the British empire. That project is failing nowadays with the rise of China. Don’t get me wrong, I’m white but the anglo-American empire is gay asf.

[Anonymous No.17809557]

>>17809527
/lit/ and /o/ aren't too bad. /g/ and /tv/ definitely belong on that list, though. I think /tg/ is probably the comfiest board that actually sees reasonable traffic.

[Anonymous No.17809600]

>>17809545
You didn't answer the question.

[Anonymous No.17809667]

>>17809600
GEB furthered the aims of secular Christians to establish a global trade empire.

[Anonymous No.17809685]

>>17808353
do you even know what edgeposting is you fucking idiot?

[Anonymous No.17809692]

>>17807450

Feels sad reading some of the anons here talking about this. The truth, cliched as it is, is that you kind of have to accept things. It took me a long time to accept that friends weren't my friends and people can't really be your friends in the cartoon way you get told about as a kid. No one can really care about anyone else that way. Once you do accept it, it starts getting less painful. You have to drive your life yourself. Most of you are autists. You have the ability to obsess about things nobody else does. Find something you like doing that is valuable and other people find boring. Start your own business. It gives you control. If you are passionate about something boring to everyone else you will beat the shit out of them at it. It's good to find a partner to do this. Men only really connect to each other by hunting together. Most of you need to reread that sentence because it's one of the most important things I've realized about modern loneliness. Find your boring passion, find someone else who cares about it too, and go hunt. Make sure it's someone you can trust not to fuck you over. Once you have a purpose, a hunting party, and you are in control, all the malaise seems to fade away.

[Anonymous No.17809707]

>>17809667
>global trade empire
>neglects to mention that the jews expelled from Spain after the converso crisis moved to the Netherlands and ran the banking and trade from there until the British Navy dethroned the Netherlands as the leading trade hub. At this point the jews moved to Britain.
>nevermind the slave trade lol

[Anonymous No.17809729]

>>17809667
Also, if you're the one who provided the non-answer, please try to answer the question.

[Anonymous No.17809733]

to the suicidal anon who is considering suicide, have you considered you might miss the next avengers endgame movie.. think twice, my friend.

[Anonymous No.17809739]

>>17808572
Evil is allowed because everyone earns their reward. The sins of the Jannies will be paid in full. They'll never be able to clean it all up...

[Anonymous No.17809760]

People who have no desire to live need to step away from the computer for a while and change their surroundings.

[Anonymous No.17809771]

>>17809707
Mentioning cherry picked historical trivia about “Jewish influence” is not a convincing way to build your argument. I could rifle through the annals of history and present the same case but instead make it Finnish people secretly running things, there’d be plenty of historical anecdotes. You have to look at the big picture. And what that big picture shows is that American industrialists along with the US gov are the ones responsible for establishing “globohomoism” (the defining moment of this was Bretton woods) and in turn all the ills the modern right complains about.

[Anonymous No.17809786]

>>17809729
>>17809771
This answers your question

[Ray Romano, Proud Black Man No.17809822]

>>17807450
yesterday? dude's probably dead by now/

[Anonymous No.17809887]

>>17809771
>factual history, completely relevant
>cherry picked
Nothing is ever enough.

Who controls the mass media in the United States? Who controlled (controls lol) the press in Germany?

Is tracing the path of an evil group of people who are often kicked out of host lands and correlating that with the very same sort of activity this evil group of people is engaged in today, right this minute, that much of a stretch? Jewish publications will brag of the same behavior that they scold outsiders for mentioning.

Norway had it right for awhile.

[Anonymous No.17809891]

>>17809786
No it doesn't.

Which religion, uniquely, praises the enslavement of all others?

[Anonymous No.17810059]

>>17808295
>host nation

[Anonymous No.17810089]

>>17809887
To get the truth you need to learn history on its own terms. Don’t turn to history solely to find justification for your anti-semitism, go into it with enough modesty to admit that your understanding of a past period is likely wrong.
>>17809891
Every abrahamic religion wants to “take over the world” and Christianity has been way more successful than Judaism. It doesn’t mean shit that you can reference some esoteric line in the Torah you think is talking about global enslavement under Jews. What matters is that group’s actions and there’s thin evidence for Jews trying to enslave the world.

I’ll tell you the truth about anti-semitism. It exists to make you look like a fool. Your someone who wants to know who really runs things. The people who do run things have several different rabbit holes they set up where they manage dissident opinions. I’ve had these same arguments with people who believe in the Illuminati and qtards who believe in a pedo cabal. They’re absurdist narratives made to make you look like a schizoid bigot in the eyes of the public. I’ve read the same /pol/ infographics as you and I also believed the Jews controlled things but upon true investigation (reading one history book (culture of critique) is not true investigation) I found the theory just doesn’t hold up, the truth is far more complicated than one universal scapegoat. That probably won’t change you mind but there it is regardless.

[Anonymous No.17810121]

>>17810089
Which religion literally expresses the desire to enslave the rest of humanity in its own writings and teachings? I can only think of one.

[Anonymous No.17810159]

>>17807450
>Burned his books, money and passport.
Well I hate to break to you, Anon. But that anon seems to have reached the point of no return, And it seems that he thought about it thoroughly.
But ther's a chance that maybe, maybe he changed his mind when he was ACTUALLY doing it? I mean your brain panics At That Moment and pumps you full of all kind of different chemicals that might kick your survival instinct in gear and prevent you from finishing the process.
But that's just wishful thinking on my part, May he find the peace he never had in this life.

[Anonymous No.17810331]

>>17807853
What the fuck do you want man. We can't come and find you and fuck you calm. People genuinely want to help you. Most people at least have a shred of goodness, compassion somewhere in them. So what can we do for you? This is not a rhetorical question. All we know how to do is give advice based on our own experience, even if it is irrelevant or unhelpful.

[Anonymous No.17810392]

To everyone who is miserable in this thread, I want to say: I love you.

I love every single Anon on 4chan. I have been on this website for more than a decade. You have all, wittingly or unwittingly, shaped the positive time I have had on this site. You and countless Anons who have come before you.

I have grown to love you all, and cherish that you are in the world. Every single one of you, even the shitposters, is precious to me. You have all become more precious, especially since the rest of the internet has reached such a sorry state and 4chan is basically isolated.

So know that I love you all, and that I cherish that you are in the world. The world is a better place because you are in it. Don't be too quick to leave it, because the world would be a sadder, sorrier world if you weren't in it. I legitimately think that.

All of you, know that someone out there loves you. Know that someone out there really, truly loves you, and cherishes your existence.

Even if it's just some random Anon.

[Anonymous No.17810416]

>>17810392
And I want to know, do you feel the same way?
'Cause if you do I want to stay forever
With you

[Anonymous No.17810431]

>>17810121
capitalism.

[Anonymous No.17810447]

>>17810392
This is the gayest shit I've read today

[Anonymous No.17810587]

>>17807704
Rooms by the Sea - Edward Hopper

[Anonymous No.17810648]

holy fuck, i hope he's fine, much strength from anons

[Anonymous No.17810665]

>>17807450
I hope he is alive. Keep on keeping on anon

[Anonymous No.17810680]

>>17809482
I see. Many people have such fantasy and a few realise it (I'm not talking about suicide, but an actual escape)
I feel like you often, but imo suicide is not the answer. Many people say "if we're going to die anyway, then it doesn't matter if I die now or in 50 years". But my viewpoint is the opposite. If you're going to die anyway, why hasten it? The life is both sad and happy, but if I'm here anyway for a short period, let me have my fill before I come back to the emotionless void. If nothing matters, then you can just chill out and take your time and admire nature.
I found that good sleep fills my need for an "escape" somehow. If I don't sleep enough I'm much more unhappy.
If you aren't sure if you want to commit suicide or not yet, don't do it. I know it's tiresome, but in everyone there is some spark that makes them value life. But some people forgot about it and just kinda live on in limbo

[Anonymous No.17810681]

I want to kms too because

>twink faggot
>nobody likes me because I constantly try to one up them subconsciously (I think this is why anyway)
>never kissed a girl now 21
>third world
>no friends
>never had a circle of friends or anything
>constant need for intellectual validation by using big words to sound smart
>slightly balding
>ugly face
>so, so alone and so lonely, feel so ugly on the inside too because I simply lack the ability to be genuine

Really gonna kms soon anons

[Anonymous No.17810705]

>>17808625
rather kill myself than living in that situation desu

[Anonymous No.17810716]

>>17807742
you're just virtue signalling to fool yourself into thinking you're a good person

[Anonymous No.17810732]

>>17809100
I appreciate the compliments thank you
>>17809126
If you associate being unlovable with being a man, that's on you friend. I wish you peace and growth.

[Anonymous No.17810735]

>>17807864
Butterfly mean

[Anonymous No.17810738]

>>17810716
That's so sad, that you can't imagine a world where people genuinely care. I'm not even being flippant, it's just unfortunate. I really hope you heal

[Anonymous No.17810739]

this is not reddit dipshit

[Anonymous No.17810743]

>>17810739
True, amidst all the faggotry, redditors still have souls. Blank, boring, copy-pasted souls but souls nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.17810745]

>>17810743
I find this place more sincere

[Anonymous No.17810755]

>>17810392
Cheers anon, I love you too.

[Ray Romano, Proud Black Man No.17810760]

>>17810743
4chan has way more soul than reddit are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.17810778]

>>17810392
lmao gaylord faggot

[Anonymous No.17810872]

>>17807788
>>17807849
If 4chan ever went down I would probably seriously consider suicide. This is the only place where I can sometimes feel a genuine connection, even if I don't necessarily post, it comforts me to know that there are other people as hopeless as I am. Considering I've been on this website daily since I was 13 and am now in my mid twenties, I can't help but wonder to what extent it has influenced me, especially since I used to regularly browse boards like /r9k/. But had I not discovered 4chan, I doubt my life would be much better, I'd probably just feel even more isolated and would've found another coping mechanism.

[Anonymous No.17810901]

>>17808145
>pic
what's this from?

[Anonymous No.17810904]

>>17810901
Fire Punch

[Anonymous No.17810917]

>>17810681
halt ur balding and get a degree that will enable you to immigrate

[Anonymous No.17810922]

>>17808046
I still have it saved on my HDD because it was being deleted.

>>17808093
Same, I never even opened it. Still won't delete it though

[Anonymous No.17810925]

>>17808110
>lymphoma putting pressure on your heart induces doom ideation
what

[Anonymous No.17810926]

>>17807523
There’s a lot of negativity on 4chan. We didn’t help those guys, we made it worse for them. Our cynicism is a plague.

[Anonymous No.17810967]

>>17810926
It’s a weird kind of Stockholm syndrome I think. All of these suicidal anons say they needed us and things would be worse if they didn’t have this place, and I image that’s true to some extents...but overall the way this place can send your mental health, regardless of how much of a fucked up community you think this is, is far more detrimental

[Anonymous No.17810968]

>>17810926
>We didn’t help those guys, we made it worse for them.
Where would they have gone, if 4chan hadn't been there?
4chan is only bad if you're a normal person, for the hopeless it's a safe haven.

[Anonymous No.17811009]

>>17810926
>>17810968
I think I would've picked up more productive hobbies if not for this place, but other than that, the damage 4chan has done to me has been minimal. I was already destined for the path I'm on. I've been an outcast all throughout my life, even before 4chan.

Though I agree with one thing: I would argue that us being here has been more damaging to the general society we belong to. *chan culture is the singular point where malcontents intersect. It's where their ideas gain a small foothold in the mainstream consciousness. Often, if not always, those ideas run counter to what is accepted. The rest of the internet tends toward homogenization -- has been tending, but 4chan still resists. Because of that, I'm sure the feds are everywhere.

[Anonymous No.17811118]

>>17807523
Same to you fren

[Anonymous No.17811133]

>>17807450
I wasn't in the thread for it but if you're lurking here anon then just remember. There is no bad or correct reason to stay alive but you need to find one. For me it's a mix of spite and the fact that I simply won't do 'their' jobs for them. It's been a shitty ride so far and most of that is because of the shitty world 'they' created so fuck that.
Be a thorn in their side anon. Never give in. Idc if this sounds cringe but you are a lot stronger that you think. You'll get thru it fren.

[Anonymous No.17811148]

>>17808603
It's the opposite. By the time you get to that age most people have worked out most of the shit that was making them miserable. I have no idea why you'd post this other than you are a subhuman lonely, cooimer addicted piece of scum.

[Anonymous No.17811151]

>>17810680
I have sleep problems so there’s that but as for the rest, I guess I don’t really feel that life is both sad and happy. For me, it’s felt sadder and sadder or else just kind of baseline nothing. How I die is something that’s been on my mind pretty much everyday since I was about 21/22. I’m just at the point now where I’m getting pretty tired of it all. I’ve felt two big shifts honestly. The first was when I stopped viewing the hour glass of my life as something which I wanted the grains to stop falling and started wanting them to fall faster. The second was when that desire wasn’t driven by something so emotional. It became something platonic, something like stepping away from a game once you’ve feel like you’ve had too much and it’s time to go to bed. But to respond to your basic point, I suppose I am not sure yet and so I’ll hold off. I just haven’t found that reason to think exactly like you do yet.

[Anonymous No.17811178]

>>17810392
Love you too fren

[Anonymous No.17811188]

>>17807893
Yeah there's certainly a something like a spillover effect happening.

[Anonymous No.17811189]

>>17810089
Anon. Their 'God' has promised them this world.

[Anonymous No.17811200]

>>17807996
Would you have given him the money if he had a white man's voice?

[Anonymous No.17811206]

>>17807523
I know this is a well meaning thread so I'll just say this is a negative post, ignore if you will
I've been calling for help maybe hundreds of times over the years on this site and I have never found anything beyond platitudes, go see a therapist, "I totally feel this way too", I always tried to actually meet people and build something but it always ever ended at the vent stage. I don't even try anymore. Then when you finally make a post like this where you want to kill yourself you get virtual pats on the back and "oh poor anon I hope he didn't do it", all that simply because you did something that grabs attention. If you act a little bit more quietly then nobody cares. This is all just everyone screaming ME ME ME and you have to do that yourself or you drown, because everyone is so painfully non-committal today, I hate it so much. It used to be that you could actually talk to people and get in touch, feel really connected, now this is all gone, it's all just another form of entertainment that people consume, interactive entertainment. Let's see what happens if I tell the anon not to kill himself. Reddit really understood this. You get points for good feefees. Like a videogame. I might as well talk to bots when they get a little better.

[Anonymous No.17811213]

>>17808727
the holocauster happened but it's historically insignificant compared to all the third world famines and genocides caused by imperialism, India alone has an absurd number of 10+million fatalities occurring throughout history. the reason it's the onlything we ever hear about is (1) it happened to white people in white countries and (2) zionists need it to legitimize their imperialist apartheid state

[Anonymous No.17811216]

>>17808046
I used to spend some months on /pol/. Thank God I quit it, it's like flushing your brain into the toilet

[Anonymous No.17811220]

>>17807450
>look at how good of a person I am! I care for you!
I would kill myself in spite if I were him, attention whore

[Anonymous No.17811224]

>>17811206
I totally feel this way too.
But what else is there to say, anyway? How do you truly get in touch or feel connected with people? I've never felt anything like that. Your problems and feelings are your own, in the end nobody really gives a shit as long as you're relatable enough for their own feelings to feel validated.

[Anonymous No.17811228]

>>17811213
>muh imperialism
Fuck you, communism killed so many more and you know it

[Anonymous No.17811241]

>>17811206
I wrote about this phenomenon a while back. You summarized it well. It's idiotic that people that "mental health" campaigns and "speaking about your feelings" are enough when everyone is a self-absorbed escapist, or simply doesn't care about you to begin with (at best, they feign caring about you just because it's now socially required to pretend you care about someone who has had enough of this shallow life).

I've personally never even tried to grab attention in the ways you mentioned because I know exactly what will happen in advance. It's all just trash platitudes. The only option is either self-annihilation or a desperate struggle to cement your individuality through solitude and self-recognition. This is the desert that Nietzsche spoke about.

[Anonymous No.17811246]

>>17811241
>that people that
that people think*

[Anonymous No.17811247]

>>17811241
>a desperate struggle to cement your individuality through solitude and self-recognition.
I don't see thing leading to anything but more misery.

[Anonymous No.17811260]

>>17811247
Misery is always presupposed, it's a matter of coming to terms with it (or else, as I said, self-annihilation). By solitude I don't mean that literally either, but the ability to be happy by oneself is a good indicator of it. You can still attempt to form relationships with other people, but you should never expect more than you're already used to as you noted in your post, and as such you don't feel depleted when many or all of them turn out to be hollow.

[Anonymous No.17811268]

>>17811224
>But what else is there to say, anyway? How do you truly get in touch or feel connected with people?
I've lamented many times about the nature of internet communities, and I've explained about the things I am disenfranchised about, the consumer mindset I detest, the constant post-modern irony and empty aping to express that you're up to date, the doublethink of open people attacking others for any differences. I've tried many times to express this, although I feel like I can't express this completely, and I've always had people say "yes! I feel like this too, I would like it if things were like this" so I assume the other person also shares my mindset, and I try to reach out, I say let's share a contact out of this imageboard, let's try to form a community, let's get in touch. Then nothing comes back or the rare times someone did reach back, I found someone who only thinks he's disenfranchised but really just wants the modern internet with all its flaws. They do the same things but think that switching platform or being on the other side of politics makes them different.
>>17811241
I don't care that much when it's about my suicide shit, but it feels awful when it's about something I am enthusiastic about. I don't want to relate to others on the basis of my negativity but I find this barren landscape when it comes to things that made me love the internet, things I love in general. It's all just disposable trash now, people treat everything, people included as disposable. It makes sense because there are way too many people online and one is wired to pick the better deal and flashier things always, but I hate feeling like I'm not in a social context but something like a supermarket instead.

[Anonymous No.17811278]

>>17811260
>the ability to be happy by oneself
Is it really possible?

[Anonymous No.17811299]

>>17811268
As an example I know for a fact that if I tried to start something like a collaborative writing project with people in this community, I would find zero participation. If I made a political bait thread it would reach bump limit. I know this in advance. It doesn't matter how much enthusiasm the former would display, or I kickstarted it with good writing I'm proud of, there are no chances it would get anywhere. And yet there are more people on this site than ever. I know that it in 2013 something would've come out of it.
I've ran projects on the internet where I received zero feedback or anything for months, then I decided to quit and I found someone lamenting that I'd quit. Why didn't you say anything? Why do people expect others to just produce shit in a void like that? Why do they treat others like the coke dipenser at a mcdonald's?

[Anonymous No.17811303]

>>17808726
Dude had an aspie touch to himself, but a lot of what he wrote was actually well thought out, pragmatic but crushing.

[Anonymous No.17811347]

>>17811299
https://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2012/12/18/4chans-moot-laments-the-death-of-internet-culture/

>Back then "the Internet" didn't mean as many people as it meant today; its most prolific inhabitants were those of the early dial-up BBS days, those who frequented Usenet groups and eventually created tight-knit communities on Internet Relay Chat (IRC) networks. "It was just much more intimate back then," said Poole. "People took a greater interest in how they were affected by things like [regulation]."

This was back in 2012 and it's only gotten worse. The internet is a cheap toy and has lost the qualities that brought me to it, muddled by "normification". The only way forward is to leave these places behind. They're only a flicker of their original flame.

[Anonymous No.17811354]

>>17811347
>The only way forward is to leave these places behind.
There's nothing else out there. The "alternatives" are worse.

[Anonymous No.17811366]

>>17811151
Life has ways to make itself interesting without your intervention. I mean, I don't know about you, but for me I feel different kinds of "smells" or "vibes" every few months, and sometimes I can smell some old feeling (like autumn) that brings some nostalgia, like you remember a book or a music album you read when you felt this smell. There are also smells that I never noticed and associated with anything yet, but I constantly build up on it and add new memories to them. Sometimes I notice it in real life and sometimes years later when I smell it again. I don't know if other people are the same, but for me, just the experience of senses that change on their own depending on seemingly random factors is the essence of life and what makes me subtly excited.
Anyway, once you make a decision it's easier, because you don't think about it anymore. You're either dead or just accepted to die by a cause other than suicide, and you kinda made peace with death. I mean I think about death a lot and how I will die and how I will react if someone close to me dies, etc. and if someone suddenly stabbed me on the street I would probably be kind of happy dying (except for the pain and possible bad afterlife). But I won't do it myself, because it's just interesting to be alive. Really weird state to be in

[Anonymous No.17811403]

>>17811354
>There's nothing else out there. The "alternatives" are worse.
The "alternative" is dropping this consumer mindset where you expect to be served a "better community" on a silver platter while being non-committal about it yourself. This isn't just your fault individually but a collective thing that sadly will never go away. This is what I complain about when I say >>17811268 >>17811299, you will never find a better community if everyone just moves the same framework, same nihilistic meme irony, same lack of curiosity, same indolence unless someone does something outrageous for attention, same attitude somewhere smaller. This is why alt chans are all dead or garbage, they're just 4chan but smaller. People act like the platform is the community, "Discord? Eugh, IRC is way better" people on IRC are the same as Discord. IRC channels are literally bridged with Discord through bots. People on IRC act and talk exactly the same way as Discord users where the technology doesn't limit them. It's like people refuse to see that the issue is being bathed 24/7 is a constant stream of information that ends up permeating everything they say and do online. Every channel feels like the same channel. As the internet get more crowded it also shrinks in diversity like a hive and it's slowly getting to the point where you either like the buzz or learn to like it or have nowhere else to go.

[Anonymous No.17811423]

>>17807450
What a brave young man doing what men can only dream of.

[Anonymous No.17811449]

>>17811366
I sincerely don’t feel that. There’s a line that I’ve been able to identify with for several years, since I was fairly young.
>In the end, everyone says “I’m bored” or “Isn’t there anything interesting out there?” like pet phrases. But in reality, none of them are looking for a change.
Nothing excitable really happens. Of course, I can enjoy the smell of an ocean breeze or sunset on an autumn day or something but these in and of themselves aren’t exactly a reason to live. No vibe really changes things. It’s not like I’ve resolved to kill myself, at least, not yet. Still, I’m just so desperate to escape this limbo. This feeling like I am stuck between an ideal life worth living and an aimless, meaningless life and death is just awful. If I felt like the life that I think is worth living was actually achievable for me, I might feel differently but I don’t think it is so I don’t and I just want to step away.

[Anonymous No.17811504]

>>17811403
Just don't treat this forum as anything serious or meaningful. Use it to get cool book recs and collect charts, anyhting more is like trying to squeeze a rock.

[Anonymous No.17811524]

>>17811504
>Just don't treat this forum as anything serious or meaningful.
Thank you for your contribution. Why are you in this thread then? There's nothing serious or meaningful online anymore because people have made it so.

[Anonymous No.17811526]

>>17807646
it's a meta thread

[Anonymous No.17811608]

>>17811524
>Theres nothing serious or meaningful anymore
FTFY

[Anonymous No.17811638]

>>17811608
you just did it anon, you did the thing...

[Anonymous No.17811641]

>>17811608
>There never has been
ftfy

[Anonymous No.17811770]

How is it that every thread always gets turned into /pol/ sperging about jews. I can understand not liking them but can you retards seriously not think of anything else

[Anonymous No.17811771]

>>17811449
I know what you mean and to me it sounds like depression. I felt similarly, the world was bleak and uninteresting and plain and predictable and there was nothing I could do about it. But it went away. The two things that I think could change it somehow were my suicide attempt and lots of thinking in the hospital, or LSD use short time afterwards. Since then the world regained colour. I honestly don't know how it did, whether it was a change in mentality or a change in chemistry or maybe it just went away by itself, but it did regain colour.
Nothing exciting happens, because life is not a video game where you have pre-written quests and lots of stuff to do. You have to learn (or recall as I like to think) to be alone with yourself. But I'm sure you know that, but it's just impossible to execute or it just doesn't make a difference or whatever. I know that feel and I don't know what changes it, but I know that you can get out of it, because I did. Maybe this bleak anhedonia will return, but for now it's mostly absent and so I'm glad. If it returns I don't really have a solution against it, I just know that it potentially ends. And I think that you're in that state right now, haunted by depression. I don't know if it's curable, I think it's very individual.

[Anonymous No.17811778]

why do so many people on this board want to kill themselves? seems like every other day there's a thread like this

[Anonymous No.17811808]

>>17811403
>people on IRC are the same as Discord
You are on the wrong servers

[Anonymous No.17811828]

>>17811778
Reading books, especially analytic philosophy, lowers testosterone to critically low levels

[Anonymous No.17811852]

>>17811770
ironic that Jews manage to live rent free in /pol/'s mind

[Anonymous No.17811878]

>>17811778
because words have magical powers

dont say I didnt warn you!

[Anonymous No.17811879]

>>17810760
I'm afraid it doesn't because I don't believe it does

[Anonymous No.17812018]

>>17811778
very few internet timewasters end up on 4chan.. even fewer end up on one of the interest boards like /lit/ or /co/. of those, there are only a fraction that actually post at all.. and of those that post, fewer post regularly...

now imagine what kind of person all of these filters selected for

[Anonymous No.17812031]

>>17811778
life is hell

[Anonymous No.17812041]

>>17811778
reading tons of philosophy year in year out will do that to a mf

[Anonymous No.17812064]

>>17807910
no, it means literally nothing, the same as if it were a facebook post for likes or reddit post for karma. Here, the currency is just different: (you)s and self-satisfaction

[Anonymous No.17812123]

>>17807879
I like to stick to blue boards, with the only red board I’ve been on being /ic/. In my view, 4chan is just a another social media site, like Facebook or Twitter, just with anonymity and a less polite lingo.

[Anonymous No.17812261]

>>17811771
Well, I’m glad you’ve managed to find some relief. I think for each of us, it’s become a highly personal challenge. What works for someone to scratch the itch, may not necessarily work for someone else as much as we want that to be the case. Some people might never even feel the itch in the first place. For me, the most difficult part is this feeling of just wanting to step away, collect myself, figure things out, and not being able to do that and also struggling to reconcile where I’ve been with where I think I might want to go. I can’t help but feel like I’m stuck in some existential limbo, which if it were to continue indefinitely as I fear it might, that might be the worst possible outcome. It’s hard when you find your life and yourself to be unbearable and you don’t feel like you can fix it.

[Anonymous No.17812317]

>>17811808
>You are on the wrong servers
Ah yes there's also the onion servers full of freedom fighters aka pedos

[Anonymous No.17812354]

>>17810392

[Anonymous No.17812385]

>>17811778
Both 4channel and literature attract loners.

[Anonymous No.17812455]

>>17811852
hehe

[Anonymous No.17812479]

>>17811852
>rent free
well they are a landlord people

[Anonymous No.17812655]

>>17811213
> reads rebuttal that concludes holocaust didn't happen
>"so anyways, the holocaust happened and thats why..."
>t. retard

[Anonymous No.17813129]

>>17812064
>implying self satisfactions means something in an anonymous board

[Anonymous No.17813218]

>>17807523
We should certainly have compassion for anyone going through a traumatic time in their lives, who feels the only way out is to commit suicide. That being said, the responsibility ends with the person considering ending their own life. We can reach out and help, as I have seen many well-meaning anons do. But these people are going above and beyond the call of duty. It's also well understood that shitposting culture is very commonplace here, and someone in that delicate a frame of mind should consider posting their problems elsewhere, as people here are more likely to exacerbate existing distress than to help. Maybe /lit/ is the exception, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.17813343]

>>17813218
How do you feel about people who've been struggling for 15+ years with thoughts of suicide?
I think at some point it's just sadistic to insist that things will get better.

[Anonymous No.17813387]

>>17813343
>How do you feel about people who've been struggling for 15+ years with thoughts of suicide?
Amateurs

[Anonymous No.17813403]

>>17813218
It’s true. I’m one of the people who come here to talk about my suicidal ideation. I don’t know why I do it. Sometimes I just want to get it off my chest and hear myself think. Sometimes I actually expect someone to respond to me with something that will change my life. It never happens. Ultimately, I realize the decision rests with me and only me and that no one can offer me even clarity on my condition.

[Anonymous No.17813407]

>>17811852
>Jews
>free

[Anonymous No.17813436]

I hope that Anon is alive and safe.
This thread redeems /lit/, I'm proud of you anons.
4chan is abysmal for mental illnesses, but /lit/ and a few other boards are quite safe.

[Anonymous No.17813442]

>>17807523
Thinking about all the anons that have passed without me ever realizing always makes me really sad. Guess that's the downside of being anonymous.

[Anonymous No.17813461]

>>17813343
I'm definitely one of those people. I don't know how proportionate my own suffering is to that of people who attempt to end their own lives, but I've definitely gone for enough walks that I didn't intend to return from to say that I'm one of those people. I think it's a sad thing that someone carries around so much pain for so long, but whether or not things can get better depends on a very wide range of conditions. What does the person consider to be fulfilling in their own life? What is an issue that is keeping them in a state of emotional turmoil? Can that issue be fixed or accepted in some way?

What I would say is that saying that things will just get better is banal and often unhelpful. It's a nice talking point but unless there's substance behind it, it won't do the sufferer any good. I also think it's wrong to say that we're all doomed to suffer constant depression and low moods to the point where there's no option other than ending it all. That's just as banal as saying things will just improve by themselves.

[Anonymous No.17813466]

>>17807450
>To the suicidal Anon that posted yesterday, I hope you are feeling better
Nope, I went through with killing myself.

[Anonymous No.17813480]

>>17813461
The worst was re-reading old entries from my journal. I was facing the same issues and no matter how much I matured, thought about them and how many perspectives I tried I'm just stuck. They're unsolvable. All that keeps me going is a few responsibilities but that's it.

[Anonymous No.17813522]

>>17813480
Perhaps something to think about is how far you've come in spite of those feelings. You're still here. And if as you've said you've matured, you're doing better than a lot of people I know. If you're talking about writing success, most of us get rejection after rejection. I posted 35 stories and poems before a single one was accepted, and even then it was just lucky I appealed to the market of the publication. Sometimes the writing world is disappointingly superficial, but it is what it is.

Not to assume that that's certainly your issue, of course. It could be something entirely different, but writing rejections are definitely a sore point on this board, for completely understandable reasons.

[Anonymous No.17813562]

>>17808030
Dunno its crazy. What's also crazy is the people there who post walls of text. I think I've never posted anything on /gif/ except maybe 1 or 2 "sauce?" posts. I can't understand the mentality of someone who goes to a weird porn board to write essays about shit.

[Anonymous No.17813737]

>>17808353
>its cringe to show concern/compassion for a human being
Dude you've been on 4chan too long, its time to take a break and interact with normal people for a week or two. Go recalibrate.

[Anonymous No.17813746]

Dunno if it always gets better. Since getting a mental illness it's like the rules of life I grew up learning were scrapped, and everyone else kept playing by the old rules while I have to pretend I'm the same as them. It's like what Terry (the temple OS guy) said about his parrot, it has no clue what's happening around him and his whole life is confusion, but he keeps going because there's nothing else to do. You live your life analogously to a healthy man and hope you don't stand out. And you never try to explain it to people because they'll never understand.

That's why I can't condemn suicide. To Cicero, suicide is permissible when the part of man that allows him to live in accordance with nature is gone. And that's what I think mental illness is. There's nothing redeeming about schizophrenia - it just ruins your life, the same as cancer or another disease. If you try all the options and it's still not enough, no one could be blamed for committing suicide in this scenario. It's not really ending a life when their actual life ended years ago.

[Anonymous No.17814339]

To the people confused as to why the internet produces atomization: read McLuhan. The medium is the message.

[Anonymous No.17814372]

>>17808727
Fuck it, I’ll bite the /pol/ bait.
>Posen Speeches
The Posen Speeches were in 1943, and Himmler literally mentions “Die Ausrottung des jüdischen Volkes“(The extermination of the Jewish people) in the first speech. He also describes massacres of Jews by SS-men explicitly.
>Goebbel’s diaries
I haven’t read them, but wasn’t Goebbels more involved in leading propaganda than military or genocide efforts?
>Wannsee Conference
You can find translated copies of Wannsee documents online: http://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf.. If you have any evidence these are fictitious, you are welcome to share.
>Hitler speeches
He may not have mentioned the specific details of genocide policy, but he did describe Germany’s ideological goals of exterminating Jews.
>Ukraine genocides
Yes, Ukraine has had: 1. Soviet artificlal famines of 1930s, 2. German massacres of Jews and Soviets. The graves in the first and second categories are usually identified as distinct from each other and they’re in different places with different contexts.
>Fake gas chambers
I’m not completely sure what you mean, are you talking about the claimed Warsaw death camp, or the delousing vs. gas chamber debate?
>Zyklon B residue
If you’re referencing the Leuchter report, there were several enormous methodological and scientific errors in that report, chief among them that any possible cyanide residue would have been heavily diluted in a lab test due to the inconsistent depth of Leuchter’s samples.

[Anonymous No.17814387]

>>17808726
Yeah, I read it. It was extremely lucid.

[Anonymous No.17814443]

>>17808726
Can you post a link? Googling the name brings up other shit that I'm sure you're not referencing.

[Anonymous No.17814556]

>>17813129
It means as much as little red arrows do on leddit. They both serve as a substitute for satisfaction for an actual accomplishment. It’s not like karma or whatever actually does anything.

[Anonymous No.17814572]

>ctrl+F "years"
>people claiming they've been here for 12+ years
>/lit/ hasn't been around that long
>mfw

[Anonymous No.17814738]

>>17814443
Search how to live alone forever by anonymous

[Anonymous No.17814886]

The modern world is so rootless that frankly the reason why tons of people aren’t committing suicide is because they’ve been brainwashed into thinking that everything is fine. Here’s a big one - our ancestors had friends that they would know for most of their lives. Nowadays people constantly move to other cities, cutting ties with their friends without the slightest concern. When I moved to the US from the 3rd world I found it pretty shocking that there was such little value for friendship (for this reason and many others I moved back to my friendly shithole country)

[Anonymous No.17814910]

>>17814886
This is true and it’s been hard to swallow realizing this as an American.

[Anonymous No.17814924]

>>17814886
>I found it pretty shocking that there was such little value for friendship
human beings as a whole are worth very little, not rationally speaking since people will tell you that lives are important etc. but on a subconscious level they couldn't care less.

[Anonymous No.17815328]

>>17812385
Loners can be cool, try loser rather.

[Anonymous No.17815500]

>>17808035
I love you too, friend

[Anonymous No.17815537]

>>17814372
This is why I love /lit/. Unfounded rhetoric doesn't work here.