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Urban fantasy Edition
Previous Thread: >>17766947

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>> No.17785861

first for zyzz

>> No.17785869

>tfw no inhumanly beautiful sranc gf

>> No.17785897
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>No, it can't be, Bakker thought, his breath catching in his throat. He was in the field in front of his cuckshed, tending to his basedbean plants when the creature appeared, towering above him with an obscene smile on its lipless mouth.
>"Oh yes it can, Dunyain" the monstrosity said in a sibilant tone. The Aspect-Author audibly gasped. There seemed to be no escape from the Inchoroi and as more panicked thoughts raced through his mind, the creature's smile widened. Bakker dropped the hoe he had been using and ran towards his cuckshed but in the blink of an eye the abomination was there, blocking his path to salvation.
>It straightened in front of him, stretching to its full wingspan, its caricature of a human face luridly peeking through a maw lined with sharpened teeth.
>"Why do you fear me so, Dunyain? I come from a race of lovers, and all I wish is to spread love."
>Bakker let out a little cry as the Inchoroi grabbed him by the shoulders, lifting him bodily. The creature pulled him closer in a terrible embrace and he gagged with the smell of the mutilated pieces of human bodies adorning its flesh. The Aspect-Author felt something big, rising slowly and pushing against his legs, parting them. A moment ago, he was dangling off the ground in the monster's hold, but now he was straddling a solid object, as if suspended in the air. Bakker looked down, baffled, and almost fainted from terror. The Inchoroi's phallus, even as it was beginning to harden, was so thick and strong it managed to bear his weight.
>"N-no, you can't!" pleaded the Canadian, "it's biologically impossible! My insides will be crushed!"
>It laughed, a curious and surprisingly clear note coming from such a vile being.
>"Worry not Dunyain, for we are the masters of the flesh. These things are not impossible for us."
>Without warning, the creature lifted the Aspect-Author to allow his curved and monstrous phallus to raise vertically, briefly poking itself in the belly. It then impaled Bakker brutally, its massive erection tearing effortlessly through his favorite gardening shorts. What occurred inside him was hard to describe; all at once, his entire body was filled with warmth and a burning lust. His eyes crossed and rolled back in their sockets, his head bobbing like a broken puppet. His tongue dangled from his mouth and only incoherent moans of ecstasy came out of it. This made the Inchoroi utter its peculiar laugh again.
>"I accept your surrender, Dunyain."

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I'll edit his hair to make him look more like Bakker after I come back from work (was shitposting all night instead of sleeping lmao).

I still want to keep the Jaws reference so "You're gonna need a bigger hole" can be used with it.

>> No.17785955

>>17785949
Also, I got the idea of adding Bakker hair because of >>17785897 so thanks.

>> No.17785961

>>17785955
Serendipitous.

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THREAD TOPIC

What is a sci/fan novel you'd like to see adapted to a different medium?

>> No.17786061

>>17786054
Second Apocalypse meets Behind the Dune.

>> No.17786461
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>>17785961
I should be working right now lol.

>> No.17786498

>>17786054
BRUSHIE BRUSHIE

>> No.17786561

>>17785857
What can men do against such reckless avatarfaggotry?

>> No.17786713

Anyone else been keeping an eye out for Brian Staveley's sequel series to The Chronicle of the Unhewn Throne that is coming out in a few months.

>> No.17786801

>>17786713
>throne in the title
dropped

>> No.17786863

>>17786801
Don't know why he named the series that seeing the actual chair gets seen a handful of times most of it is about special forces bird soldiers fighting albino huns.

>> No.17787063

>>17786863
after game of thrones really took off in popularity everyone put throne in the name, literally.

Unhewn throne
throne of glass

the list goes on...

>> No.17787068

>>17787063
>throne of glass
That was in 2012. And that was an original fic on fictionpress.

>> No.17787090

>>17787068
game of thrones took off before 2012

>> No.17787113
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alright, present your allegations and accusations

>> No.17787175

>>17787113
space trilogy in golden age

>> No.17787406

>>>17784829
>have identified almost everything on that political compass that gets passed around
Can someone post the political compass based on Bakker novels?

>> No.17787511
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>>17787406

>> No.17787514

just finished stone by adam roberts and really enjoyed it. can anyone recommend another of his books? he has more than i expected. especially any that are set in the way far future

>> No.17787583
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Any good fantasy books about old-school wizards? I don't want Harry Potter tier wizards with tiny wands. I want ancient and old wizards with staffs, long beards, and an anti-social nature.

Lotr is pretty good as far as wizards go, but I would like the wizards to be darker.

Also, is there any good non-fiction literature on wizards?

>> No.17787651

>>17786054
Too Like the Lightning, theater or cinema

>> No.17787746

>you vill eat ze meat
>you vill live in ze new empire
>you vill give up your gnosis
>you vill own nothing
>and you vill be happy

to whoever posted this last thread, underrated.

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>>17785807
It's about these two guys trying to stop the end of the world.

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you don't have a superiority complex
it's an inferiority complex disguised a superiority
complex

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>>17787746
The acceptance of the New World Order is a common meme nowadays (on reddit especially).
It is all the more important to avoid this train of
thought as much as possible.
Take off your cuckmuzzle. Do not get the death
cure. Get out of the cities.

>> No.17788317

>>17787953
go back

>> No.17788422

Got a question fellas

Everything else remaining equal, meaning we got Jesus and his miracles, and Christianity being the largest religion in the world
If the old testament were to be published today for the first time ever and by some random would it be qualified as a fantasy work?

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>>17787063
>name only two thing
>list goes on, trust me dude lol

>> No.17788448

>>17788426
>posts a r*ddit image
>gets self-btfo

>> No.17788562

>swingtrade crypto and read SF all day
Anyone else embracing this lifestyle?

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Good morning, Bakkerfriends.

>> No.17788616

is the martian chronicles a good read? i don't really read much genre fiction but i found a copy of it on my shelf that i must've bought a long time ago, wondering if i should give it a go.

>> No.17788764

>>17788426
>newfag doesn't know the meme

also there ARE other examples

>> No.17788769

>>17788422
That or like historical fiction since it talks about historical groups a lot, what else would it be?

>> No.17788772

>>17788603
>Tell me, Scott... have you grasped the Absolute?

>> No.17788780

>>17787746
>you vill vorship ze golden man

>> No.17788781

>>17788772
please don't encourage suicide fren

>> No.17788801

>>17788781
>you vill znort ze elf ash cocaine

>> No.17788860
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>50% Ketyai
>47% Dûnyain
>2.5% Royal Kûniüric
>0.5% Nonman
LA LUZ EXTINGUIDO
EL PRÍNCIPE BASTARDO
EL HIJO DEL NUEVO EMPIRE
EL OGRO DE LOS TRES SEAS

>> No.17788868

>I feared what I might find......

>> No.17788957

Can't believe it's all shit. I just want a cool escapist fantasy.

>> No.17789012

>>17788957
Have you considered finding a flavor of shit you enjoy?

>> No.17789013

>>17788957
escapist fantasy tends to be shit for the reason that most losers who need to escape have shit taste, maybe try name of the wind its alright, comfy.

>> No.17789073

>>17787583
The Face in the Frost

>> No.17789102

>>17787583
If you are OK with alien wizards too read "The Flying Sorcerers" by David Gerrold and Larry Niven. One of the very few humorous and genuinely funny SF books.

>> No.17789347

Asked this in the last thread but no answers.

Are there any books where another Earth identical to ours is discovered in another part of the universe?

>> No.17789394

>>17789347
Second Foundation

>> No.17789427

>>17789394
>3rd book in the series
>not about the discovery of another Earth that is the same as ours
Thanks

>> No.17789443

>>17789427
>>17789347
>waaahhh wahhhh gibs me exactly what i demand even if it doesn’t exist
fuck off nigger

>> No.17789480

>>17789443
>ask if there are any books about Z
>get recommended book about Y
>say that is not what I asked for
>nooooooooooo you can't demand that I give you books specifically about what you asked for
Maximus autismus. Literally kys.

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Pardon me if it gets explained later and I'm totally off the mark, but:
Regarding Kelmomas, is his "other voice" supposed to be the real intellect of Samarmas, who was rendered an idiot when the two were split?

>> No.17789506

>>17787113
how is "The Investigation" a sci-fi?

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>want to buy Prince of Nothing
>can only find shit cover

What is the appeal of 'random face in a ring'?

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>>17788603
Afternoon.

>> No.17789666

>imagine coming to this general every day to post the same memes, the same authors, and the same books over and over again
Literally schizos

>> No.17789668

>>17786801
The throne of bones by brian mcnaughton is the greatest book of all time

>> No.17789692

>>17789617
The Kindle versions use the original covers at least

>> No.17789844

>>17788860
>shart in momemn

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17789856

A more basic bakka.

Do you think it would look better if I edited in the original beard onto bakker's face? Or would that just clutter it?

>> No.17789860

>>17789856
No edit needed, this is perfection

>> No.17789871

>>17789856
You should just kill yourself

>> No.17789976

>Cnaiür could see it in their faces: the look of beggars with gold sewn into their hems—or of drunkards with over-shy daughters
What look is this referring to? What emotion? Especially the second confounds me.

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Feminism, in my rape monster novels?
>“And you tell yourself,” Kellhus continued, “‘These tracks I will not follow!’ Perhaps you refuse certain perversities. Perhaps you refuse to kiss. You pretend to scruple, to discriminate, though the world has forced you onto trackless ground. The coins! The coins! Coins for everything, and everything for coins! For the landlord. For the apparati, when they come for their bribes. For the vendors who feed you. For the toughs with scabbed knuckles. And secretly, you ask yourself, ‘What could be unthinkable when I’m already damned? What act lies beyond me, when I have no dignity?’
Communism even?!

>> No.17790117

>>17790054
misogynistic bakker"fans" btfo'd

>> No.17790139

>>17790117
>Kellhus sells her feminism so he can strain her relationship with Akka and use her as his prized breeding sow for the next twenty years.

Really, a gigabrain moment.

Don’t think it’s as plain as you think.

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>That Fang Yuan, he is simply too cunning, way too vicious!
I unironically love Reverend Insanity so far.

>> No.17790162

>>17790139
Not everything I say can be a lie, Scylvendi. So why do you insist on thinking I deceive you in all things?

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>come back to /sffg/ after a few months
>nothing but Bakker autism
I'll see you guys again during the summer, hopefully you've picked a better author to meme about by then.

>> No.17790227

>>17790117
retarded hole

>> No.17790270

>>17789871
What is this about?

>> No.17790272

>>17790184
>Weeper! Faggot weeper!

>> No.17790328
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>>17790162
>the dunyain freak is doing it again
SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP

>> No.17790365

Why couldn’t Bak finish his PhD? Was he just too busy working on the books, or smoking weed, or what?
>tfw you realize his blog is one giant cope for not completing his philosophy doctorate

>> No.17790443

>>17790365
>when he could have been Prof. Dr. Richard S. Bakker, Ph.D

>> No.17790454

>>17790365
Exactly what it says you cancerous fuctard.

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Just finished God Emperor and I kinda wanna read Heretics, but I hear mixed things about it. Is it any good?

>> No.17790462

>>17788957
Go read fanfic.

>> No.17790468

>>17790365
I don't think he ever said, but he did everything but the dissertation, so I assume he just didn't have the time or money, or thought it wasn't worth it.
I'm not sure about the timeline, when did he meet and marry his wife? Maybe it was as simple as that. At some point a man has to leave academia and start a domestic life and earn money.

>> No.17790658

>>17790455
I liked it.
just start reading it, if you don't like it, stop. what's so hard about that?

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>>17789856

>> No.17790860

>>17790365
I can emphasize with him. I personally developed a hatred for organized academia, university most of all although elementary school has a special place of absolute loath and disgust in my soul.
I also finished 2 universities and "completed" neither, just to prove a fucking point.

Maybe, and chances are it's true, he also has somewhat of a dislike for academia and the bunch of ingrate hypocrites plaguing it's piss-stained corners.

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>>17790658
Yeah, but fucking tell me what to think about [thing] before I even interact with said [thing]. I literally have no self agency and must rely on the guidance of internet AIs and people's telling me what to do and what to enjoy next.

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>>17790860
>it's
should have stayed in school, big guy

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Seethe englado nerd

>> No.17790958

Anyone have the TUC meme with ameribear saying he eats the burger?

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>>17790958
here fren

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>>17790952
how the fuck does a man end up with a face like this

>>17790958
here, my friend

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17791068

I want to publish the entirety of my epic fantasy series. It was originally four novels and a bunch of short stories, but I kinda decided I'd just tie it all together as one big story and give it away for free. What would be the best platform for this?

>> No.17791140

>>17791068
post and excerpt here and i'll tell you

>> No.17791240

>>17791068
Host it on a shitty html website and post the link on reddit or something.

Your books are ass, so nobody will read them, plus html takes barely any traffic, so you can get by with free hosting options,

>> No.17791399

>>17787511
Akka deserved better than Esmenet

>> No.17791414

>>17791068
Royal Road.

>> No.17791687

>>17791004
>>17791035
ty

>> No.17791709
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I've been working my way through the Malloreon after finishing up Belgariad a week or two ago or whenever it was, and I can't believe it took til Sorceress of Darshiva, the second to last book, for Eddings to finally realize that after giving the main character Garion the ability to transform into a wolf through sorcery like 5 or 6 books ago, that it would be awfully cute and sentimental if he turned into a doggo in his family's presence for cute pets and scratches. I was thinking such a scenario from the minute it first happened in the Belgariad.

>> No.17791724

>tfw anons will never create funny memes and make endless spam posts about the fantasy series you’ve labored on for the last six years

>> No.17791785

>>17791724
Have you put it out there?

>> No.17791794

>>17791785
Only in /sffg/, where I was told it was awful.

>> No.17791805

>>17791794
Good, I hate you fags who post your self written garbage in here when there's a fucking writing thread right over there.

>> No.17791827

>>17791794
Don't tell me it was the dragon sex story.

>> No.17791892

>>17791399
Akka deserved better than just about everything he got

>> No.17791921

So let me get this straight... Kellhus thinks he’s a bad boy and walks into the Ark like “fuck y’all” and bitch slaps some alien mofuckers to get his dick twitchen....turns out that the consult is being run by some fugly ass Dunyain...turns out the no god needs some mother fucker to pilot it like some gundam wing shit....turns out Kellhus been taken over the devil this entire time son...turns out he’s already been hell and he’s got a decapitated black brother sitting on his hips shaking his fucking head at all this white people shit... turns out he starts going fucking crazy yo...turns out Kellhus is like FUCK YALL I ain’t being damned bruh my soul is safe yo fuck the rest of youse...turns out his son is ACTUALLY THE NO GOD WHAT THE FUCK BRUH?...turns out he ain’t safe after all (or maybe he is?) and gets turned into white people seasoning yo...then his cracker ass son is like I want my mommy but gets turned into a giant ass hell robot bruh.......

Turns out Kellhus ain’t in hell after all and his head is on a stick somewhere bruuuhh.....turns out my boy Malowebi is stuck on Kellhuss statue ass in the ark....turns out Cnaiur gets possessed by the devil because he’s mad as fuck that Kellhus dabbed on him....

What the fuck did I just read maaaaaan.

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What's the verdict?

>> No.17791989

>>17791921
better and more coherent than most TUC ending summaries desu

>> No.17791992

>>17791923
I haven’t read it but my verdict is it’s trash and I predict given the author and the absolute state of fear most writers live in of offending their audiences is that this book has “strong” female characters lots of diversity Marvel tier quips and a average story.

>> No.17792022

So I want to read a Malazan book, but I don't want to read the whole series, just one. I was just going to read the first book Gardens of the Moon but I've heard that Memories of Ice and Deadhouse Gates are two of the best in the series, so I'd like to read those; can I read them as standalone novels or do I need to read the novels leading up to them to understand them? Would I be better off just reading Gardens of the Moon if I want to just get a "feel" for the series?

>> No.17792032

>>17792022
Read book five midnight tides it can operate as a stand alone and introduces the bad lad Trull

>> No.17792091

>>17791068
ROFL I read that fille name as "bavarian tavern" at first glance and was about to complain that none of the taverns around here offered this much entertainment

>> No.17792101

>>17791923
>Orwellian society ruled by someone called "God"
>no free will
>"officers of God" are police who are above the law because they work for God
lmao

>> No.17792212

>>17792101
>Orwellian society
that's just England

>> No.17792219

Could a non grimdark setting that shares the absurdities of Warhammer 40k be popular?

>> No.17792236

>>17792219
Isn't non-grimdark Warhammer basically Warcraft

>> No.17792369

>>17792219
>could Star Wars be popular
hmm...

>> No.17792439

I just finished the thousandfold thought. Is the aspect emperor worth reading or should I leave the series where I left off?

>> No.17792461

>>17792236
Not really, and I said 40k not fantasy.
>>17792369
Star wars has very few segments as absurd as 40k. Hive cities house trilliobns of people and they are pretty common. Commorragh extends infinitely making hive cities look like grains of sand compared to a mountain. Craftworlds are continent sized and there are hundreds of them. A single space marine can run at 50 mph and take a shot from a canon. Each planet is pretty much it's own setting.

There is nothing else like this and even more there is nothing that isn't as hopeless and grimdark. The only thing that comes close is magic the gathering, but that universe isn't nearly as well explored.

>> No.17792513

>>17792439
> Is the aspect emperor worth reading
Did you enjoy the prince of nothing? Then yes. Did it filter you? Then no. Simple as.

>> No.17792526

>>17792513
I liked it. If its more of the same ill read it. I was just wondering if there was a dip in quality.

>> No.17792614

>>17792526
There is a bit of a dip in white luck warrior, but it picks back up after that.

>> No.17792646

>>17792526
>>17792614
There were parts that annoyed me the first time I was reading, because there was more interesting stuff going on and I want to get to that, but when re-reading I enjoyed those parts I formerly disliked.

>> No.17792655

>>17792646
Yeah that’s generally how I felt with white luck warrior too

>> No.17792657

>>17791240
thanks lol. I am aware it is pretty shitty, I just wanted to finish the thing. Idc if people read or not, I just wanna complete it.
>>17791140
A lot of it is generic weird fantasy, spanning millennia of a world and I've been writing shit in it for around 14 years now. It's mostly been shitting out absolute trash and then later when I get better ideas or have everything proofread I'll go back and edit or beef shit up.
>>17791414
Will check it out
>>17792091
build it and they will come anon

>> No.17792731

>>17792526
It gets better in my opinion.

Prince of Nothing is more focused on human politics and wars among Men. The Aspect-Emperor goes in a more high fantasy direction as Man wars against the Consult. Bakker definitely ramps up the insanity and tragedy in the last two books.

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>>17791923
He should read some Scott Horton.

>> No.17792809

>>17792762
>Osama picture on the background
Nope

>> No.17792922

>>17792657
>I just wanted to finish the thing. Idc if people read or not, I just wanna complete it.

based and true writer pilled

anon will actually succeed in finishing his series unlike the neverfinishturds /sffg/ worships

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Bros i'm never reading a YA novel ever again.
I'm so angry right now.

The mc had the perfect cute old fashioned and kind girl the author spent 4 books and he threw her away for some modern slut.
I'm so depressed right now.

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>>17792952

>> No.17793132

>>17789497
You're sort of there. Keep reading.

>> No.17793155

Halfway through warrior-prophet right now /bakkergen/. Holy shit, I am 100% on board with Cnaiur, everytime Kellhus does anything I can't help but think how he's duping everyone with every word/action/face/shart he makes.

How do we solve the dunyain question?

>> No.17793195

>>17790860
This is what coping brainlets tell themselves to stave off the night.

>> No.17793232

>>17793155
>How do we solve the dunyain question?
You don't, Anon... the Dunyain will solve the question of (You).

>> No.17793247

>>17793155
Nayu is odd. He does terrible things and is a really shitty person, but at the same time you can't help but like him, because he is so sensitive and intelligent and wrecked and traumatized by the hardness of the life he was forced to live.

At least the madness is finally lifting.

>> No.17793326

>>17793155
Kill them all let the Outside sort them out.

>> No.17793327

>>17790860
>I also finished 2 universities and "completed" neither
yikes

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>>17785857
>Urban fantasy
How do you define this? Is it just fireballs and shit in modern day? Why do I associate 'urban fantasty' with China Mieville? what's everyone reading? Are you all still posting about Bakker? no i haven't read the thread

>> No.17793342

>>17792614
I'm about halfway through White Luck Warrior.

I don't give a shit about Esmenet and her shitty kids, or young believer kings. I want all slog all the time.

>> No.17793386

>>17793334
>Urban fantasy is a genre of fiction,[1] a subgenre of fantasy in which the narrative uses supernatural elements in a 19th-century to 21st-century (or equivalent) urban society. It usually takes place in the present day (or the equivalent of the "present day")

>> No.17793396

>>17793386
fuck you

>> No.17793398

>>17793342
So much better on the second read when you know how all three plot lines tie together in the end.

>> No.17793428

>>17793398
You are mentally ill.

>> No.17793446

>>17793155
I’m from nansur and I say kill em all

>> No.17793513

>>17793446
>t. Ikurei Conphas
How's your grandma been lately?

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Despite being less than 0,001% of the population, the Dunyain are almost 50% of organization leader.

>> No.17793743

>>17791794
Whenever someone talks about something they written and then post it, it's either smut or fanfiction. I've never seen anyone post something serious.

>>17791805
You'd think /sffg/, where people read fantasy and science fiction, would be a better place to get feedback on fantasy and science fiction than a writing general where most people think that type of literature is stupid.

>> No.17793754

>>17793743
Everything in /wg/ is literally anime fancfictions

>> No.17793805

>>17793754
I always thought it was where people shared their pretentious short stories. I don't know if that or anime fanfiction is worse.

>> No.17793940

Is this where I post my Proyas/Xerius slashfic?

>> No.17794058

>>17785857
I'm writing a fantasy. Reply with shit you hate so I can avoid it.

>> No.17794062

>>17793545
>Despite being less than 0,001% of the population
Not if the population is 144,000

>> No.17794067

>>17794058
I hate reading

>> No.17794120

>>17794058
Tell us what the story is about and who the main characters are.

>> No.17794131

>>17794058
>I'm writing a fantasy. Reply with shit you hate so I can avoid it.
Low magic worlds that are just earth slightly rearranged.

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>>17794058
anime

>> No.17794147

>>17794058
>I'm writing a fantasy. Reply with shit you hate so I can avoid it.
Fuck off you insufferable faggot. nothing is bad except when it's done poorly.
>hurr durr I have vague idea about world building, I am a writer
No you're just a delusional child.

>> No.17794149

>>17794058
I hate my my neighbor using his leaf blower all the time

>> No.17794160

>>17794149
Rake your lawn gommie :DDD

>> No.17794193

>>17794147
Woah, this bitterbugger is projecting hard.

>> No.17794301

>>17794120
I'm just starting out. I'm gonna go a little different and make it a caveman fantasy. I'm thinking of putting a conan the barbarian type character in mesoamerica. I want people to cheer on a white guy raping and killing injuns. <- this but unironically
>>17794131
Done. Now witches are bitches with some world-ending shit (maybe???)
>>17794146
Waaayyy aheada you, buddy.
>>17794147
>nothing is bad except when it's done poorly
Like vampires immune to sunlight, le chosen teenagers saving the world, members of x race being basically clones, or just general pozzshit in media lately? Nunna that's bad to you?
>>17794147
World building is for gay autists. My fantasy world development is going to stop at "return to monke"
>>17794149
The MC shall become a carnivore. Eating meat exclusively enhances his body-modifying magic. It what gives him supermutant tier strength.

>> No.17794318

>>17791709
Belgariad is probably the worst of Eddings's series. If you enjoyed it, read his other books; they are much better.

>> No.17794322

>>17794301
>World building is for gay autists. My fantasy world development is going to stop at "return to monke"
Ah, the ultimate atheist romanticism.

>> No.17794551

/sffg/, I'm worried my sequel is going to be too depressing.

Not "sad" depressing, but "the mystery is gone, now i don't care" depressing

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>>17794551
Just do what every hack does any pile on more mysteries

>> No.17794563

>>17794551
Your life is depressing

>> No.17794575

>>17794551
Did your readers not tell you often enough that your mystery was shit or is this all still in your head because you haven't even written the first book yet?

>> No.17794611

>>17794559
i wish I could think of some.

>> No.17794695

Why are only women nominated for the Hugo and Nebula awards?

>> No.17794696

>>17789856

I haven't opened sffg in a month and come back and still it's bakker shilling. That's dedication. But seriously he's not very good and he's kind of a sad author to shill. If he were totally shitty or you had never even read him I would get it. F. Gardner is funny to shill because I have no idea if he is good or not. Bakker is okay. He doesn't suck. But he isn't great. That makes it kind of sad to shill him.

>> No.17794701

>>17794695
Because they're better writers and men can't write for shit anymore

>> No.17794714

>>17794701
Men just as a whole began to write worse? That's your unironical answer

>> No.17794721

>>17794695
I think only fags and women pay attention to awards.

>> No.17794722

>>17794714
I was just fucking with you, real talk he Jews and the Reptilians with financing from Soros took control of the awards and they're actively preventing men from winning it

>> No.17794732

>>17794721
>>17794722
It's good to know that after all this time you still can't get a simple answer here.

>> No.17794749

>>17794732
>ask tendentious question
>will not be satisfied until he receives the answer that fits his set of beliefs perfectly
Why don't you tell us then faggot

>> No.17794761

>>17794732
Okay, if you can't figure it out yourself:

Fantasy has become pozzed by women moving into it, like all hobbies and niches. Now all the nerd culture things cater to them and all the nerds are going full simp because they hope they can get brownie points with the nerd girls that play online D&D on youtube and twitch and shit. The wokeness has gotten so bad that D&D is trying to get rid of racism because people think orcs are too much like niggers, which is of course true, especially in porn.

And then of course there is just the huge market of fantasy written by women for women. It's really no wonder that noone cares about male fantasy writers anymore when most of them have been neutered.

>> No.17794765

>>17794749
What 'us'? I see only you and you've clearly didn't understand question and like to use word faggot very much. Something must be up.

>> No.17794770

I'm enjoying Book of the New Sun but boy is it fucking dense and confusing at times.

>> No.17794771

>>17794765
And "you've" clearly a mouth breathing ESL faggot, what is up now schizoid tard?

>> No.17794773

>>17794761
Damn, you people are spiteful here.

>> No.17794786

>>17794773
And you are proving my point at
>>17794721
>I think only fags and women pay attention to awards.
with your faggotry.

>> No.17794789

>>17794771
Oh, you got me. It doesn't change the fact that you like word faggot too much. Either your dad beats you and you react to it on the internet, or you like penises. Or both.

>> No.17794793

>>17794789
Okay faggot

>> No.17794893

When did /sffg/ become reddit? Haven't been here in a while, but holy shit this thread is reddit as fuck.

>> No.17794902

>>17794893
Your absence tipped the balance in favor of reddit.

>> No.17794986

>>17792809
rf

>> No.17795174

Fang Yuan vs Kellhus with all their powers and in-universe logic
Who wins? I feel like Kellhus is more intelligent but the magic in Reverend Insanity is cumulative bonkers.

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>>17795174
>Fang Yuan vs Kellhus with all their powers and in-universe logic
>Who wins? I feel like Kellhus is more intelligent but the magic in Reverend Insanity is cumulative bonkers.

>> No.17795297

>>17795174
Please, why would you ever power level wank xianxia characters against people from actual literature? Your average cultivator MC could eradicate all the gods and the no-good with one hand tied behind his back.

>> No.17795298

Why are you all such unlikable cunt faggots? Every general has their own idiots but I hate all of you unironically

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>>17795298
>Why are you all such unlikable cunt faggots? Every general has their own idiots but I hate all of you unironically

>> No.17795342

>>17795298
I come here mostly out of boredom. I always think I will find inspiration to read and all I see is cunts and sanderfags. At this point you just don't expect to find anything of value here and just read some books.

>> No.17795400

>>17790141
It's literally my favorite story. It's got flaws, but I think it's legitimately possible for it to be an all time classic if the author spent a decade or so polishing it. The raw material is top grade. It's absolutely INSANE that he wrote it 1000 words a day as a serial! I don't even understand how that's physically possible!

>> No.17795407

>>17794695
>Why are only women nominated for the Hugo and Nebula awards?
because mainstream sf and fantasy are just YA branches now and women tend to do better at that. easy prose, some idpol sprinkled in, muh diversity and there you have it. I don't think anyone reads the books actually, they just check out who's written them and throw them an award for being a black teen or something.

>> No.17795413

>>17791921
kek

>> No.17795418

>>17792022
read house of chains its the best standalone

>> No.17795423

>Cnaiür could see it in their faces: the look of beggars with gold sewn into their hems—or of drunkards with over-shy daughters

ok but what did he mean by this

>> No.17795433

>>17795423
he meant that you're an esl with 0 reading comprehension, jesus if you cunt can't comprehend that why do you even bother. i bet you can barely understand the rest of the book and yet you've convinced yourself that you do in true midwit fashion

>> No.17795457

>>17795174
There's no point in comparing powers(I'd rank the absolute top power level in Earwa to be around Rank 4, MAYBE 5)
If we're comparing mindset, like if you swapped the two of them and compared their progress, it becomes more interesting.
Kellhus is smarter, WAY smarter, but I'd say his ability to read people's faces is about on par with Fang Yuan's understanding of the human heart. They're both about equally good at manipulating people and making longterm plans.
They'd both probably be fucked in eachother's universes though. Fang Yuan relies on assloads of specialized knowledge and he NEEDS it to succeed. Kellhus, no matter how smart he is, won't get very far without a lot of extremely difficult to acquire information.
On the other hand, he'd probably be able to pull it off without enough luck and time.
Fang Yuan though, I don't know. He's totally fucking insane really, he may seem somewhat logical on the surface, but the motivations behind his actions are entirely inhuman. Even the Dunyain are more comprehensible and reasonable! Bu then again, Kellhus is totally nuts by the end too.

They're actually surprisingly similar characters, even though their backgrounds couldn't be more different.

>> No.17795477

>>17785897
This isn’t funny

>> No.17795636

I'm reading the gospel of john (David bentley hart) translation and Jesus reminds me of Kellhus so much

>> No.17795639

>>17795400
1000 a day is pretty standard for a good hack

>> No.17795655

>>17795636
Yeah, they were even both circumcised. The author of the bible was truly ahead of his time.

>> No.17795674

>>17794551
Your sadness is a sweet treat, Bakka. Sell it.

>> No.17795733

>>17795639
But writing a three million word story with complicated political plotlines, dozens of characters, no continuity errors, and foreshadowing years in advance, all without ever taking a break?
Even assuming he had it all planned out beforehand it's insane. The only thing that makes sense to me is doing it in phases, planning and writing each chunk all at once with multiple drafts, and then drip feeding 1000 words a day. If so, that's at least 2000 words a day average, maybe significant'y more, with maybe 10,000 a day actual speed with planning days and breaks. For like three straight years.

>> No.17795758

>>17785857
Nice pic.

>> No.17795759

>>17795733
>he thinks it's only one guy instead of a dozen slaves in the basement of an internet cafe somewhere in beijing
did you know that kim jong-il wrote 10000 books in one year? fucken crazy mate

>> No.17795777

>>17795759
In this case it's obviously one guy. He even consistently makes the same basic math errors. And I hear the price per word they get paid over there is miniscule.

>> No.17795961

>>17795298
To make sure people like you stay away. Once that is done, a nice general can be had.

>> No.17796392

>>17795400
>>17790141
>reverend insanity
It's about time it caught on here, right up there with warlock of the magus world.
it's a shame that the ccp canceled the author though. and everyone duplicating his work can't understand the stories themes.

Gu cultivation is wild.

>>17795777
>price per word
It is, but they get paid in tickets bought by readers.

>> No.17796456

Listening to JRPG music while reading fantasy novels is peak comfy

>> No.17796548

>>17794318
I highly doubt I'll enjoy Tamuli, Elenium, or anything else better than Belgariad

>> No.17796608

I should probably get gud at art and be a painter or illustrator instead of struggling to write, because I can only ever do one scene or "image" before I run out of steam and want to move onto something else. Anyone else know this feel?

>> No.17796629

>>17796608
yes, it means you haven't done enough prep work.
You have no theme or character in mind before you started writing.

Although getting good and being an art fag is fine too, i would be doing that instead if it weren't for nerve damage.

>> No.17796859

>>17793342
I'm in the same place, opposite position. I don't really care for Mimara too much, I'm much more interested in Kelmomas and Sorweel.

sorweel managing to get close to serwa with a fucking trinket in his sleeve without her noticing is nuts

>> No.17796874

>>17787113
never let me go is an awful book

>> No.17797083

>>17796548
Give Elenium a try.

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>This study is so deep, Father....

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>>17795298

>> No.17797237

I STAND
WHERE MY BROTHER STOOD

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Why did the Ordeal take the longest, most direct route (red) across the Istyuli instead of either progressing along the coasts to have guaranteed access to water from tributaries (blue) or even trying to cross the Leash (green)? At least that way they'd be able to forage effectively. For that matter why didn't they just secure sea passage via the coasts of Zeum, in whole or in part? Kellhus would absolutely be able to convince Zeum's leadership if he had time, and at minimum the strength of the Nansur fleets was well-established.

Not an "eagles into Mordor" question, I'm genuinely curious.

>> No.17797269

>To plunge into a furnace stoked by one of the Old Names...!

>> No.17797294

>>17797251
Because the last leg of the ordeal being fueled by the Meat was part of Kellhus' master plan. He calculated their supplies and forage would run out around Irsûlor which would give him about 2-3 weeks to reach Golgotterath with a Meat-charged host before it completely disintegrated. Careful, sustainable and effective foraging was never part of his plan. As far as Zeüm and a sea invasion, well, that would have been an entirely different story anon. At some point the drama of the plot has to trump logical cohesion.

>> No.17797295

>>17797251
apparently the sea was like super impassable and rough, ignoring that though one dragon or storm and the entire ordeal is fucked, also I don't think an army of 300k is easily marching through forest and the sranc would be way more of a problem there, mages flying above wouldn't be able to discern their targets

>> No.17797297

>>17797251
Well there was a wracu at sauglish, so it was probably for the best. Zeum was very much an unwilling ally, and kellhus didn’t want to invest the time pacifying them fully.

>> No.17797310

>>17797251
>kellhus puts the entire army on boats
>auranx/g drops a nuke on the fleet

BYE BYE

>> No.17797321

>>17797310
>>17797251
In one of the glossaries it mentions how the not-Sea Elves of Illiserû attempted a naval invasion of Golgotterath a long time ago and got utterly btfo'd.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspwxl6Cyzw

This is the only guy I've seen on YouTube that actually recognizes Bakker's true value.

Definitely worth checking out.

>> No.17797662

I wonder how much anger, hatred, bitterness and resentment Bakker feels towards us: the legion of autistic, sarcastic, retarded, shitposting losers that are his zealous fans.

>> No.17797680

>>17797662
>Dissolute Sons of an absent Father...

>> No.17797774

>>17797450
He looks like a huge faggot.

>> No.17797784

>>17797450
Very good video. But the guy can't pronounce any name correctly.

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So, anyone here read the Galaxy's Edge series?

>> No.17797804

Why can't you cancerous fucks make a Baker general and circle jerk each other there?

>> No.17797830

>>17797804
>nooo you can't just talk about your favorite series, wait i've got it, there's only one of you pretending to be multiple people!

so you finally gave that up huh?

>> No.17797843

>>17791923
Its literally Mistborn 2nd trilogy but now they are officers of god instead of private policemen. Also MC is a strong womyn.

Also this is some kind of atheistic projection of Daniel's own insecurities.

This is the book for the woke millenial who hates how his parents took him to the church

>> No.17797862

>>17797830
Are you retarded?

>> No.17797876

>>17797450
The Gnosis is so ridiculously cool

>> No.17797888

>>17797843
oh that reminds me if you are writing fantasy please avoid the "church man bad, church man... pedo!.. church man, catholic!"

>> No.17797930

>>17797251
The complete sea route is completely impractical, it would be insanely long, require an unfeasible number of ships, require the complete submission of Zeum, which would require a war that rivals the Ordeal itself, and even then storms will wreck at least part of the thing even under ideal circumstances, and might even destroy all.

The blue line is 50% longer than the red one and offers no benefit. Either case the sranc would deny all forage.

The green route would lead through dense forests teeming with millions of sranc, who would eat the Ordeal alive, and then they'd arrive at a sea they have no good way of crossing, they would have to split the ordeal while they camp and slowly ferry people across, assuming the weather plays nice. IRL the channel between the UK and France was considered extremely risky to pass for entire seasons before modern times due its stormy weather. That route is likely also not at all reconnoitered. In addition to that it wouldn't even be shorter or offer any other benefits.

A straight line was really the least bad option.

>if he had time
He didn't, the consult waxed stronger every day, while his hold on the Three Seas was tenuous.

>the strength of the Nansur fleets was well-established
The one that was annihilated during the Holy War?

>>17797310
Kellhus didn't know the Consult has a nuke.

>> No.17797963

Kellhus' darkness at work:

- takes Serwe and genuinely values her
- takes Esmi and genuinely values her
- picks up Esmi and brings the kid he knows is insane, just to appease her
- leaves Cnaiur alive after he teaches him war

I think it's reasonably well established that women are what his darkness is most influential with, but I also think that he did feel bad for Cnaiur and respected him more than other worldborn men. To the degree an emotional cripple like him could anyway.

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>>17797963
Kellhus a simp

>> No.17797992

>>17797983
Great art.

>> No.17798005

>>17797963
Did he actually value them? Or was he just possessive of what was his?

>> No.17798016

>>17797930
not a nuke as such but something similar or a staff of light, also they don't need it when they have nonmen sorcerors who can set all the ships on fire from above

>>17797963
not sure how much he cared about serwe desu

>> No.17798025

>>17798005
clearly cared about esmi imo, but ironically she thought he was just trying to manipulate her

>> No.17798026

>>17798005
>>17798016
He lost his mind over Serwe dying and for Esmi he did way more than he should have, endangering his bigger project for no logical reason.

There's also this line from the Warrior Prophet:
>Esmenet wobbled for a moment, threw out her arms. She caught herself, but not before Kellhus found himself puzzled by a sudden shortness of breath. The fall would have been fatal.

>> No.17798048

>>17798025
The thing with Kellhus is, that he can't not manipulate people. He sees through them, so everything he does is done with that knowledge. Everything is necessarily a manipulation if you know what outcome every action, every word, or every inaction will have.

Also he couldn't love her like Akka could, he was cold and reptilian in his affection for her. It was only significant for someone like Kellhus who is pathologically callous otherwise.

>> No.17798050

>>17798026
lol @ kellhus confusion at feeling basic emotions

>> No.17798069

>>17798016
>not a nuke as such but something similar or a staff of light, also they don't need it when they have nonmen sorcerors who can set all the ships on fire from above
That's true, but unlike the Nansur fleet, the Ordeal fleet would ship with a large contingent of their own gnostic mages. Is an enemy mage more dangerous to ships than to foot soldiers? I don't know. The Cishaurim absolutely obliterate regular soldiers, killing thousands in seconds.

>> No.17798081

>>17798048
Akka’s love of Esmi seemed extremely possessive imo. He saw her as a prize to wrest from other men. Kellhus may not have been able to “love” her, but he did go out of his way to protect her and try to make her happy (like saving Kelmomas). Ultimately his simping for her, and her womanish irrationality, leads to Resumption and the end of humanity.

I don’t really know what the takeaway is, but it’s much more nuanced and interesting than your average good vs. evil Tolkien knockoff high fantasy.

>> No.17798103

>>17798081
Akka’s love was human
Kellhus’s was vestigial

>> No.17798108

>>17798081
Akka saw Esmi as his lesser, which is why Kellhus teaching her how to read and saying that women are inherently intellectually equal to men and only inferior because of circumstance worked so well. If akka hadn't told Esmi that women are incapable of higher thought and taught her to read, Kellhus wouldn't have had that lever.

Still, I do think Akka did genuinely love Esmi. He was merely a man of his world, conditioned to think like this.

>He saw her as a prize to wrest from other men
I think he was just troubled when she slept with other men, which is completely normal and healthy. No sane person feels good about their partner being intimate with others. Of course it's more complicated, because he also didn't offer her an alternative.

>>17798103
Very well put.

>> No.17798116

>>17797963
>I think it's reasonably well established that women are what his darkness is most influential with
There's also the part during his conditioning as a child when the one thing that distracts him is a glacier reminding him of a woman's hip or something. That foreshadows this aspect of his personality and one of the reasons for his downfall.

>> No.17798120

>>17798108
Imagine being a short fat alcoholic washed-up sorcerer and thinking one of the most beautiful, high-value whores in Sumna ‘belongs’ to you. Dude cucked himself from the get.

>> No.17798125

>>17798120
He didn't think she belonged to him, he liked her and as a result was sickened by the thought of her being with other men. He didn't try to stop her or anything, because he rationally recognized that she was right to do it.

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>>17789617
Take the frenchpill.

>> No.17798149

>>17798139
>some kind of ent-dark elf creature
>not even trying to depict anything from the books
based frogs??

>> No.17798157

>>17798116
Which is interesting, because he should never have seen a woman's hip, I think.

I think this Darkness is possibly an echo of his Anasurimbor strain's Nonman rape heritage

>> No.17798169

>>17798157
>Which is interesting, because he should never have seen a woman's hip, I think.
He might have seen a whale mother before, but who knows what those look like. I wonder whether they are even attractive. What we find attractive is basically hard coded, so maybe it was an echo of that. I think it was just foreshadowing without too much thought about the mechanics of why he could think of that based on his lived experiences.

>> No.17798605

>>17797784
Bakka.

>> No.17798624

>>17798016
>not sure how much he cared about serwe desu
>"breathe girl"

>> No.17798637

>>17798005
Dunyain aren't supposed to feel possessive. It would imply having an emotional attachment.

>> No.17798641

Fuck!
E William Brown?

>> No.17798899

>>17798069
mages don't seem very good at shielding anything other than their immediate surroundings, those ships would go up like matchsticks

>> No.17798907

>>17798149
probably meant to be cnauir, or meketeritrig?

>> No.17799293
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So got this book off a rec on /tg/, was told didn't need to read the other book in the series.

Out of curiosity, is there more fleshed out in the other book for this one? I'm only a few chapters in but there seems to be a lot of world building and important characters that seem to be implied I should know who the fuck they are.

I can't tell if this is just because there's a theme around legends and fables, and these are supposed to be unknown famous figures of the past I shouldn't know about. Or if I should know about these events and its because I didn't read the other book that I didn't pick up on them.

>> No.17799305

>>17799293
Why didn't you start with the first one, assuming that isn't it?

>> No.17799328

>>17799305
2 parts.
1. Was generally looking for books with female protagonist. (Which is how I found it)
2. Would have read the first one for general world building but the store only had this one.
Could order it off Amazon if I wanted. But was told it wasn't really connected. And my backlog is big enough I don't want to pointlessly add unless I love the book.

>> No.17799342

>>17799293
Damn, the best quote they could fish for the cover was from Sykes? More like Yikes lol

>>17799328
Yikes lol

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>>17799328

>> No.17799375

>>17798149
Onkis, the head on a tree, is Kelhus in the Outside looking in.

>> No.17799469

Are there any books out there related to mecha or something similar that go really in depth with their mechanics and science?

Im writting something and i need some inspiration

>> No.17799489

>>17797450
Thats man, that was a nice watch. Looking forward to his new vids on Bakker.

>> No.17799494

>>17799469
I'm not mayorly experienced in that genre but Starships Troopers beginning has cool battlesuit action and describes them nicely.

>> No.17799578

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich
>nicknamed the blond beast

BAKKER?

>> No.17799589

>>17799293
The first book was shit. So I assume book 2 will also be shit.

>> No.17799628

>>17799469
>inspiration
More like complete plagiarism and lifting paragraphs whole. Read primary sources.

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>>17797888
>don't write the truth, my feefees can't handle it!

>> No.17799823

>>17797083
oh I'll try it to be sure, I just don't think I'll find it quite so moving as Belgariad and Malloreon were

>> No.17799832

>>17788616
of course, a Bradbury classic, just be aware of golden age era Sci-Fi tropes and writing

>> No.17799843

>>17799809
yes

>> No.17799862

>>17798899
Mages shield things by hammering enemy mages so they can't attack their targets anymore.

>> No.17799906

>>17797843
It's too on the nose to not be some kind of projection; I remember in one of his videos he said he's an Atheist and he actually made a video addressing the people who were calling him out for being this on-the-nose about his beliefs I think

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>>17799809
Juvenile observations of the church are equally tiresome

>> No.17801828

>>17785857
no

>> No.17801843

>>17801828
>not letting the thread die before bump limit is reached
It was deep into page 10.

>> No.17801853

>>17785897
God, I fucking hate the Bakker meme so fucking much.

>> No.17801863

>>17801853
I wonder when it will run out.

>> No.17801874

>>17801853
>>17801863
>t. Filtered squad

>> No.17801881

>>17801874
Not even Filtered. Just fucking hate the meme.

>> No.17802063

>>17801853
>>17801863
It's literally like 3 people in a discord making a coordinated effort to use this thread as a dumping ground
Not much you can do

>> No.17802137

guys
>>>/tv/148139069
>>>/tv/148140083

>> No.17802177

>>17787113
Saved. I recently got blindsight and childhood's end because some anon in another thread described the books as the most dreadful books he has ever read.

>> No.17802179

Opinions on the expanse series? I quite liked it, though I still have to read the last 3 books

>> No.17802193

>>17787113
Where's Lucian's A True Story?

>> No.17802198

>>17790365
Because it was a work on fundamental ontology inspired by Heidegger but then he pivoted to the Eliminative Materialism position halfway through voiding everything he had worked on up to that point.

>> No.17802220

Make the new thread FAGGTS

>> No.17802222

>>17802220
Why? We haven't even reached bumped limit.

>> No.17802225

>>17802137
What about it?

>> No.17802230

>>17802137
He's right you know. Cyberpunk is still stuck in the 80's

>> No.17802237

>>17802230
They need to do a hard restart for it to even come to the 21st century.

>> No.17802254

>>17802237
They just need to stop with the whole big corporation bullshit. And explore other means.

>> No.17802259

>>17802063
Don't they get fucking tired of it?

>> No.17802261

>>17799351
You know he’s telling the truth.

>> No.17802262

>>17802230
I had seen an anon here say that BR is not real cyberpunk the other day

>> No.17802271

>>17802262
Probably took his notes from William Gibson, Guy seems like a purist.

>> No.17802273

>>17802262
>I had seen an anon here say that BR is not real cyberpunk the other day
????

>> No.17802281

>>17802259
Are you really asking if autists get tired of being autistic?

>> No.17802284

>>17802273
Yes.

>> No.17802291

>>17802220
Here's your new thread

>>17802288

>> No.17802390

>>17802273
what

>> No.17803919

>>17791068
The guy who wrote metro 2033 wrote a book, and then published piece meal online after not getting a publisher. He used feedback to edit it as he went, and it became a hit.