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Are there any good books on British conservativism? I want to learn more about conservative though. I was recommended to read The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk but I’m concerned that it might have an American bias and therefore I wouldn’t be able to relate to it.

>> No.17744548

>>17744542
Kirk is fine. Other than that look into what Roger Scruton had to say or read Burke.

>> No.17744551

read the diaries of Alan Clark

>> No.17744554
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17744554

>British conservativism
Debunked

>> No.17744562

>>17744542
Anything by Roger Scruton (How to be conservative), anything by Peter Hitchens (The Abolition of Britain).

>> No.17744581

Based AND/OR Redpilled

>> No.17744587

>>17744542
>conservative
>thought
Conservatism is the most braindead political ideology because they dont believe in anything at all. Not saying its bad to be conservative, just very uninspiring, especially modern conservatism

>> No.17744604

>>17744587
thank you for your input, amerifaggot

>> No.17745443

>>17744542
Roger Scruton. or Jonathan Bowden if you want some 'Radical Conservatism'

>> No.17745478
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17745478

Read the Distributists.

>> No.17745499

>>17745478
distributism is just agrarian socialism, may as well just read das kapital

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>>17744551
>tfw you marry a 16 year old girl at age 30

>> No.17745528

>>17745499
Socialism is the state ownership of property or means of production, or you could say the centralized distribution of resources. Distributism is the people owning the means of production with a minimal exchange of resources (depending on who you ask). It's an extremely decentralized ideal so you're just confusing terms. They can look similar at first glance if you don't actually know what these things are.

>> No.17745633

>>/biz/

>> No.17745653

>Hobbes
>Burke
>Carlyle
>Oakeshott
>Scruton

>> No.17745658

>>17744587
The real genius behind conservatives is that they never actually manage to conserve anything. It's 4D chess and basically a statement on the absurdity of life.

>> No.17745686

>>17745658
This is basic bitch rhetoric and it's dumb as fuck. Even if we ignore that you're equivocating conservatives with the liberals who call themselves conservatives, what you say still doesn't make any sense because everything that exists ipso facto has been conserved. Otherwise it wouldn't exist.

>> No.17745707

>>17744542
read some enoch powell

>> No.17745738

>>17745508
dude.

>> No.17745773

>>17745707
It be better to just stay with establishment figures than fringe figures to understand things... I mean maybe Thatcher wanted to ship all the darkies home but it never happened e.g. there's a lot of radical libertarians in America but any influence on things is limited.

>> No.17745842

>>17745707
Bruh he was a conservative with only institutions and immigration, otherwise he was a classical liberal.

>> No.17745888

>>17745842
A conservative is a liberal, more precisely the right within the liberal order.

>> No.17745895

>>17744542
The Talmud

>> No.17745912

>>17745888
conservatism exists outside of the liberal establishment and can exist in any non-revolutionary nation-state under any form of government, retard

>> No.17745993

>>17745508
John Pilger: I read that you were a vegetarian and you are seriously concerned about the way animals are killed.
Alan Clark: Yeah.
John Pilger: Doesn’t that concern extend to the way humans, albeit foreigners, are killed?
Alan Clark: Curiously not

>> No.17746020

>>17745912
The conservative disposition exists of course everywhere but in the liberal systems where they manifest into parties there's a specific role a political conservative plays in the evolution of the social order. In rough technical terms he guards the efficiency of the whole from the excesses of liberals who at least historically seek ways to broaden cooperation. Meaning a political conservative doesn't have to have a conservative disposition, he can just think an innovation doesn't work. I'm an example of that. This is bwhy it is silly to say 'conservatives don't conserve anything', if you think stasis is the conservative role they are always 'on the wrong side of history' whereas in reality evolution here is a cooperative enterprise. You would actually rather quickly return to monkey if you would just let liberals do their thing undisturbed, it's just not the conservative agenda.