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>be your own God bro
>noooooo you cannot rape the womerino!!!!!!!
Why is LaVeyan "satanism" so ridicule?

>> No.17729020

>>17728995
If you rape the woman, she’s going to rape you.
You raised by barn owls?

>> No.17729022

>>17728995
I cringed physically while reading this

>> No.17729041

>>17729022
Good christian

>> No.17729046

>>17728995
that feels like written by a teenager

>> No.17729055

>>17729041
>implying I'm an cuckbrahamist
that pic is just cringe

>> No.17729060

>>17728995
Because their entire existence centers around antagonizing a specific religious group. They get off on being the bad guys but still desire to be socially accepted in their own peer groups.

>> No.17729068

>>17729041
Stop copying me

>> No.17729110

>>17729068
i'm trans btw idk if that matters

>> No.17729137

>>17729110
Of course I matter

>> No.17729142

>>17729137
I reject Max Stirner and all his teachings

>> No.17729164

>>17729137
Haiii auntie how've you been?!?! <3333

>> No.17729179

>>17729142
>>17729137
>>17729110
>>17729068
>>17729041
The namefagging and schizoid meltdowns need to stop. I've panned idly across this ''bored'' long enough and engage you in extensive, pleasant conversation... but this... this is too far. I'll be holding an intervention later under the guise of Coffee and Carlyle. Please, stop by, we all love and care for you.

>> No.17729183

>butterfly becoming schizophrenic
Beautiful

>> No.17729214

>>17728995
satanism is actually just a further development of protestant humanism, it basically only affirms what protestants already believed about morality and its only real difference is a small matter of theology (worship of god vs satan and attribution of morals thereof)

>> No.17729225

>>17729142
UMMM BROS IS BUTTERFLY BASED NOW?

>> No.17729243

>>17728995
As if the only possible moral codes were Christian self humiliation or immoralism.
This actually seems like a decent moral code, much better than any religious one I 've come across.

>> No.17729282

>>17729243
You must be really fucking stupid or underage to be impressed by that

>> No.17729313

>>17728995
it's literally a meme my nigger, who cares

>> No.17729340

>>17729282
I wouldn't call it impressive, just based on common sense. It avoids the excesses of Christian self denial without sliding into nihilism.

>> No.17729407

>>17729243
but why do you need a moral code if your goal is to become a God. Literally, imagine God almighty being imposed moralist bourgeois normie shit like respecting women and childerinos. Nietzsche got it right, but LaVey is just liberal Christianity with extra edginess. Even the Abrahamic God is more "satanist" than those fedora freaks considering that he sent bears to the kids that were making fun of prophet Elijah.

>> No.17729924

>>17728995
LaVeyan Satanism was based off the writings of "inheritors"/"successors" to Stirner and Nietzsche like Ragnar Redbeard and Ayn Rand, rather than the source.

It may be to its credit mostly life-affirming and elitist, but nevertheless as you can see still "spooked".

>> No.17729932

>>17728995
>that pic
Reddit moment.

>> No.17729933

>>17729214
>satanism is actually just a further development of protestant humanism
>it basically only affirms what protestants already believed about morality
Could you perhaps elaborate upon this theory?
I don't want to hear references to Weber.

>> No.17729946

>>17728995
It's literally r*ddit humanist atheism with but edgy aesthetics for people resentful of their christian parents.

>> No.17729972
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>>17729407
>LaVey is just liberal Christianity with extra edginess
LaVey was actually Jewish
>Even the Abrahamic God is more "satanist"
Even the Talmud manages to be more Satanic

>> No.17730136

The O9A is the closest the actual Satanism

>> No.17730196
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17730196

>When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do stop, destroy them.
>Destroy them

>> No.17730210

>>17728995
Le retardation ultra cringe maximus!
Wtf is this shit?? Someone should remind this Satan cock suckers that
>Do not copycat religious tenets and pretend to be yours, fucking heretics

>> No.17730621

I never heard about these rules and i do them (except the magic thing)
This isn't being a satanist, i being a well behaved person lmao

>> No.17730738

>if a guest annoys you, treat them cruely
What is wrong with this faggot?

>do not kill non-human animals
Literal reddit tier "religion"

>> No.17730909

>>17729068
Stop using my old trip.

>>17729183
Clearly anonymous

>> No.17730924

>>17728995
This is the most petit bourgeois shit I have ever seen, fuck these privileged assholes.

>> No.17730966

>>17730924
Hello Mr. agent. How’s the coffee today?

>> No.17730979

>>17729243
>This actually seems like a decent moral code
it's completely retarded and self-contradictory, grow up.

>> No.17731016

>>17730924
Communists are degenerates

>> No.17731031

>>17730924
>don't rape le women
>but u can kill le people
>unless le people is le young child
>or le cute animals
This is beyond fucking retarded. I sincerely hope this shit was made by a 14 year old 9gagger and not some sincere autist.

>> No.17731049

>>17731016
I would rather be a degenerate than a bootlicker.

>> No.17731087

>>17731049
Communists are bootlickers though. They've established dictatorships that oppress workers. Communists use pity as a cloak to conceal their mischievous contentions, and anyone with a sharp, analytical mind can cut through their pious lies and sermons of brotherhood. You're a degenerate of all sorts.

>> No.17731094

>>17729407
>God almighty being imposed moralist bourgeois normie shit like respecting women and childerinos.
You still haven't showed what's wrong with any of Lavey's rules. Why is it a bad thing to not make unwanted advances to women and not harm children? These are good rules for life, and in fact his whole list is much better than Christian Ethics, that preaches self denial and excessive humility.

>> No.17731103

>>17728995
this is actually cringe

>> No.17731107

>>17730979
Where are the contradictions? All of these rules are sound moral advice.

>> No.17731108

>>17731094
>Why is it a bad thing to not make unwanted advances to women and not harm children?
Because I don't have respect human life? Maybe I want to harm women and children.

>> No.17731121

>>17731108
I didn't ask about your psychological constitution, I asked what's wrong with the Ethics proposed here. You being a psychopath is not a a criticism of his system.

>> No.17731154

>>17731087
>bla bla bla
Why do all right wingers write their pseudo intellectualism in this wanna-be psychoanalyst style?

>> No.17731169

>>17731154
I'm just so happy that if there is uprising in your country you will just be mass murdered.
>>17731121
There's no such thing as "right" or "wrong" - there's a ontological assumptions you invent because you care too much moral questions. You take yourself too seriously.

>> No.17731181

>>17731121
That they're incoherent with the rest of the system? You cannot expect to be a "worshipper of yourself" and still fall to the most moralistic reddit bullshit.

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>>17731049

>> No.17731191

>>17731094
They're all bog standard bourgeois white fence moral standards, except they have "epic human life isn't sacred, unless it's a child or u wanna rape a woman hehe".
It reads like an edgy 15 year old posted this on "emo+punk army" Facebook group, hoping to get attention.

>> No.17731212

>>17731191
>"bourgeoisie"
Why are you using terms like this when you're clearly a degenerate college student who's too full of himself. Stop talking this, you're not a revolutionary or a social critic. You're a degenerate who spends too much on twitter.

>> No.17731223

>>17728995
He just made up his own autistic-esque rules about what compromises satanism. Real satanists are like sarkic cults from the SCP universe, will to power and all the horrendous abuse/disfiguration that comes with it. If I had to guess he is just trying to create a big brain refutation of the more nutty evangelists from the 80s, but in doing so misses their entire point. The most grim realization to come to about all this is that their poorly communicated fears about the direction of US culture turned out to not be entirely unfounded. I am sure one could find a metaphor for an inverse tower of babel in all this but wallowing in that bleakness hardly makes the reality of it any better.

>> No.17731232

>>17731169
Please tell me you're American, so I can laugh at your 3rd world shit hole of a country. And no, my country is top 10 in most charts measuring by welfare, because we have had a strong socialist presence politically and with low corruption. Good luck licking the billionaires boots though, but drop the pseudo retarded writing style, it doesn't hide that you're talking out of your ass.

>> No.17731240

>>17731169
>here's no such thing as "right" or "wrong" - there's a ontological assumptions you invent because you care too much moral questions. You take yourself too seriously.
Not even in a relative sense? If you reject moral talk completely you are deprived of being able to discuss social and human interaction in an intelligible way.

>> No.17731249

>>17731107
>do not let anyone stand in your way but [slave morality]
See? Complete protestant gibberish.

>> No.17731253

>>17731212
I don't even have a Twitter, Mr psychoanalyst. Interesting to see you think you can armchair analyze me over the internet, you must either be very good or just a Pseudo intellectual mongoloid.

>> No.17731275

>>17731232
>and with low corruption
i don't think you actually understand how politics work. politics are in its very essence "corrupt".

>> No.17731286

>>17731181
That's because you conceive of morality as "external compulsion", a coercion of the will, as is the case with sociopaths, social outcasts etc. For most people it is not going against themselves to treat other humans in a dignified way.

>> No.17731287

>>17731232
The entire world is capitalist, and never will be socialist, and those "social policies' are subsidized by American military expenditures. There will never be a socialist revolution in that shit hole country of yours because you will rightfully be mass murdered. Socialism is swindling, communism is confiscation. Its popular with those who have nothing and deserve nothing.

>> No.17731303

>>17731240
You can talk all you want, but that doesn't stop the reality morality meaningless. A piece of paper won't stop a bullet. No one has to care what you believe is "moral" or "just" - man is the measure of all things, and do as he pleases as long as has the power to do so. Morality is a form of domination that imposed, and it be overthrown through sheer will. So, yes, if you wish, murder children and murder women. You do not have to value their lives.

>> No.17731309

>>17731253
You will never be a woman.

>> No.17731312

>>17731191
None of these points constitutes serious critique. You are the one who sounds like an edgy 15 year old with the excessive use of buzzwords, not Lavey. You haven't made any substantial criticism of him. Why is it a bad prescription to not make unwanted advances to women?

>> No.17731315

>>17731031
Typical christian outlook
Kill and rape whatever you want (if you’re white male and christian) confess your sins and you go to heaven. Your victims too, but only if they accept christ

>> No.17731340

>>17731249
Why is it slave morality? What's slavish about LaVey's rules? You aren't making any points, these are witty one-liners without any content.

>> No.17731367

>>17730909
Take your medication

>> No.17731378
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>>17730738
Because why the hell did you invite them if you didn't know what sorta "guest" they'd be? He should (((destroy))) you for being a janny

At least half the people here aren't dumbasses and realize this is just Protestantism with extra steps

>> No.17731388

>>17728995
It sounds like he made rules based on Kant's categorical impetrative. VERY edgy, satanic, rebellious thing to do.

>> No.17731438

>>17731286
>That's because you conceive of morality as "external compulsion", a coercion of the will, as is the case with sociopaths, social outcasts etc. For most people it is not going against themselves to treat other humans in a dignified way.
Are you seriously implying that those rules aren't an external compulsion?

>> No.17731453

>>17731303
And you call Lavey petty bourgeoisie? Your criticism of Lavey is that he doesn't appeal to the psychopathic point of view, but that wasn't his intention in the first place. His rules are proposed as a guide to the the normal functioning adult. He shows a middle way between ascetic self denial and complete narcissism that can help someone to flourish by avoiding potentially harmful extremes. Not exactly an original idea, but better than other things offered in the "marketplace of ideas". What does the "murder children and murder women" offers to everyone outside the psychopath or the weak nerd with delusions of grandeur? As far as I can see it's all talk, mere posturing with no value in the actual world.

>> No.17731455

>>17731367
no one should ever take medication.

>> No.17731561

>>17731312
If you have a moral code that says "don't rape", but not "don't kill" you're a fucking faggot. Do you honestly think rape is as bad as murder you fucking imbecile? Majority of women worldwide are raped by their arranged marriage husbands at the age of 12 - 14 and it's seen as an unpleasant thing women have to suffer, but nowhere is fucking murder legal except in some Somali land wastelands. You're defending this role playing shit like its written seriously, well go use your powerful Satanist magic to get my fist out of your tight ass bitch boy.

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>>17731453
>What does the "murder children and murder women" offers to everyone outside the psychopath or the weak nerd with delusions of grandeur?
Not him but the animalist part is quintaesential bourgueois. As usual (it happens all the time) the secular cretin thinks that freedom is the highest value attainable and that there's no God but himself, but at the same time he chains himself to the most irrational dogmas like the worst of zealots. What happens after the death of God is not absolute freedom, but the sacralization of everything else.

>> No.17731569

>>17731340
>Why is it slave morality? What's slavish about LaVey's rules?
The milquetoast conformity and faux-rebellious nature of his "rules" are the very definition of slave morality. "Do not let anyone obstruct your path, yet do not burden anyone in any shape or form." Pathetic moralism to the highest degree.

>> No.17731587

>>17731438
Compulsion implies that one's will is suppressed. You are buying into the Hobbesian anthropology according to which all men are selfish, and so all "morals" that are not crude narcissism must be imposed from the outside. But that's a caricature of human psychology. There are "altruistic" as well as "egoistic" motives, and they often conflict, fight with one another etc. The purpose of an Ethics should be to contribute to human flourishing, not saddle everyone with precepts of humility and and asceticism. The only reason this point has to be made is that for the most part the dominant type of ethics was of the Christian moralistic type, and not a more balanced approach that is closer to what Lavey proposes.

>> No.17731591

>>17729068
Good christian

>> No.17731606

>>17731568
This guy gets it

>> No.17731615

>>17729068
>namefag bitching that someone stole its name
can't make this shit up
that explains why this post >>17729020 wasn't hidden though

>> No.17731618

>>17731587
>The only reason this point has to be made is that for the most part the dominant type of ethics was of the Christian moralistic type, and not a more balanced approach that is closer to what Lavey proposes.
Lavey IS a moralist, you fucking imbecile.

>> No.17731629

>>17731561
There can be situations where killing is a proper and even admirable course of action, like in the case of self defense. What is proposed here is not the lunatic's killing for killing's sake.

>> No.17731641

>>17731587
Stop sucking Lavey's dick, the OP is retarded as all fuck.
>destroy them
A literal child wrote this, what some guy teases you about your fedora at Walmart so you pull out your handgun and blast him at aisle 6? You fucking mongoloid, stop pretending this retarded take on average suburban morals is well thought out.

>> No.17731676

>>17731629
And let me guess, you're the judge of who it's okay to kill?
Its always the same with you psychopaths, it's okay as long as you're the one doing the murder.

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>>17731641
Tbf this existence would be ten times more bearable if that happened

But Lavey would say something like
>well y'see WHAT I MEANT WAS
Because he was a cuck and wouldn't just say murder and rape is good

For a carnie he sure clinged to the western world and it's normalcy

>> No.17731709

>>17731568
What is there proposed that is an "irrational dogma" compared to some of the worst of Christian absurdities, like the command to love your enemy, to turn the other cheek, or to view the wellbeing in this world as secondary to what happens to the soul in the afterlife? If anything, we find here some sound advice, of much higher value than say, the teachings of Jesus or Paul. In fact your hatred of freedom, the belief that the high of moral goodness consists in self subjugation, the lowering of one's head, is a salient example of the servile spirit characterising the Christian approach to these topics.

>> No.17731735

>>17731569
>"Do not let anyone obstruct your path, yet do not burden anyone in any shape or form." Pathetic moralism to the highest degree.
Why is this "moralistic" advice? Society would be in a better place if rules close to these where given more prominence than Christian ethics, or your proposed narcissist alternative

>> No.17731739

>>17731701
I agree. Either you fucking go full out and say "Fuck women, fuck children and fuck men, I don't give a fuck about any of you", or you admit to your milquetoast conformity. This OP is like giving a fiery paint job to your family's 6 seat car.

>> No.17731774

>>17731618
Having a moral system is not the same thing as "moralism" in the sense relevant here ie asceticism and self humiliation incongruent with a good life

>> No.17731793

>>17731641
You do actually sound like a child, constant emotional outburst and no actual points being made. Sad!

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>>17728995
>implying Satanism is synonymous with braindead barbarism
You and all the other hipster Christians itt need to get your brains checked, none of your accusations make any fucking sense. Just because I praise the one who stood against God more than God doesn't mean I'm a fucking retard who thinks going around raping and killing everyone in my path is tactically smart or even desirable. I'd have to be a schizophrenic loser to feel that way.

>> No.17731833

>>17731676
There are cases where killing is obviously justified (eg. self defence), even most of the Christian moral thinkers would agree on that point because it's so obvious. My bet is you are being full of shit for the sake of contranianism and you are not a pure pacisist.

>> No.17731846

Lavey's outstanding problem is his use of satan and gothic overstatement for glorified secular randianism. It's cringe edge.

>> No.17731857

>>17731811
>going around raping and killing everyone in my path is tactically smart or even desirable.
Yes, you ought to, because that's real antagonism to God's commandments. What happens is that you would choose to die before being coherent.

>> No.17731879

>>17731857
Why should I "ought to"? Because of your dialectical bullshit that makes you think so? It's not about contrarian antagonism to God, but about being free and about realizing the nonsensical and nihilistic vision for humanity that is God.

>> No.17731891

>>17728995
Satan is a cool badass with a nice leather jacket and a wicked attitude toward authority.
He doesn't rape, he can barely get a break from young sluts throwing themselves at his genitals.

>> No.17731955

>>17731879
>It's not about contrarian antagonism to God, but about being free and about realizing the nonsensical and nihilistic vision for humanity that is God.
Then why calling yourself "a satanist" and not a militant atheist like anybody else? Is it edginess? Is it a desire for attention?

>> No.17731981

>>17729041
So is life of a namefag

>> No.17731994

>>17731955
Because Satan was a hero, a light-bringer for humanity. Because he resembles exactly what I just said.

>> No.17732006

>>17729068
Just be glad you have a butterbro now.

>> No.17732013

>>17731232
Sounds like you're a great destination for some refugees.

>> No.17732044

>>17731994
He also freed you from having to respect the childerino or absent from raping your grandma, but ok, I see you're like those guys who wear Che Guevara t-shirts made by exploited kids in Bangladesh.

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>>17731994
>DeStRoY ThEm
How fucking retarded do you have to be to move towards laveyan Satanism in your search for the truths of the universe as if existing within the paradigm set by that which your position is supposedly antithetical to will offer some drastic moral or logical deviation. Satanism affirms Christianity inasmuch as black pride affirms white pride

>> No.17732115

>>17732044
>He also freed you from having to respect the childerino or absent from raping your grandma
Because of your dialectical bullshit, right? Somehow, you think praising the lover of freedom means simultaneously wanting heinous acts to go unpunished in the world. But if we are all free, then those of us strong enough are also free to punish those who threaten our world.

>> No.17732120

>>17731833
If your morals are that you can personally deem fit who should die and who shouldn't, you're a fucking lunatic. This isn't about "muh self defense", you don't have to fucking murder a guy in self defense 90% of the time. Who do you think you are, fucking Judge Dredd annihilating some guy who walked into you at the train station? Motherfuckers if rape is "oh no le so baaad muh women's and animal rights :(((", but "Hehe he le evil murder is okay because I am justified to be executioner when I want to" then youre a fucking role playing doofus. Consider that across the globe murder is fucking frowned upon by everyone, but rape is practically culturally justified by arranged marriages and misogyny. This retarded OP pic is literally the product of retarded Hollywood movies featuring a billion murders and serial Killings, but OH NO THIS MOVIE HAS A RAPE SCENE AND MY GOD IT IS SO OBSCENE AND WILL MELT YOUR CHILDREN'S EYEBALLS. Its peak fucking conformity to somehow think killing someone is less bad than some fucking rape, you asinine, mentally stunted mongoloid. You're glorifying violence because you're just as indoctrinated into some bog standard moral positions like the author of OP pic, but oh no some woman gets unwanted sexual approach and you go "OH THE HUMANITY, WE HAVE FALLEN!"
Of course I am against rape, but your arguments are so mindnumbingly retarded that I wonder how you don't forget to breathe when you sleep.

>> No.17732135

>>17732109
Satanism isn't about truth, it's about freedom.

>> No.17732188

>>17732013
We will never let you amerimutts in when your society collapses in 50 years.

>> No.17732376

>Satanism is all about freedom
>but only in so far as you don't step over other's boundaries or limit their freedom
Can someone explain to me how this is not just reskinned liberalism?

>> No.17732544

>>17728995
>née Levi, Chicago mafia family like Lanskey
>lazy Kabbala/Ayn Rand/Redbeard LARP for hedonistic goth Boomers

>>17729214
More susceptible, not its progenitors

>>17731223
Can’t have a pagan’s paganism or Promethean antinomialism rooted in non-Kabbalistic tradition rearing its ugly anti-status quoist head in the context of the 70s that could substantively oppose or reverse the hippy dippy nonsense

>>17731453
>’satanism’: antinomialism is baked in the cake
Yet there he is wringing hands over “Thou shalt not kill” — is he a pacifist?

>>17732376
It is

>> No.17733684

>>17732120
>If your morals are that you can personally deem fit who should die and who shouldn't, you're a fucking lunatic. This isn't about "muh self defense", you don't have to fucking murder a guy in self defense 90% of the time. Who do you think you are, fucking Judge Dredd annihilating some guy who walked into you at the train station?
Someone bumping into you in the train is obviously not a case that calls for "self defence", so your analogy here is completely ridiculous. But there are clear cases were killing can be justified, like an armed burglar breaking into your home putting your family in danger. The rest of your post is repeating the same strawman ad nauseum.
>Of course I am against rape
Lmao, didn't we establish that respecting women is moralist bourgeois normie shit, what happened the edgelord larp you were engaged in earlier.

>> No.17733719

The most satanic thing you could do would be worshipping the hindu gods.

>> No.17734063

>>17733719
Unironically this. No restrictions other than karmic debt.

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>> No.17735120

>>17733684
>killing is of course not allowed, unless I approve of it and can justify it
>NOT RESPECTING WOMEN? HOW DARE YOU SIRE!

Meanwhile in India:
>yeah Rape is bad, unless my son is getting older and hasn't found a wife, then I will arrange a marriage for him with a 16 year old
>What! Murder! How dare you, nonviolence is the utmost importance!

Your justification of killing people in self defence is purely an American fantasy, fostered by your gun fetish and Hollywood movies glorifying violence.

And the above chart is fucking conformity to a T, because it's just fucking normal Joe values, but given an edgy twist through "heh, murder is okay, kid".
Why are you sucking Lavey's dick so hard though? What is your fascination with this shit? Valuing freedom, unless it hurts others? You're a fucking neoliberal you dumb cunt, why not just accept it?
Also the line
>destroy them
Is so fucking asinine and it literally some pseudo stand your ground scenario where a fedora wielding idiot sees a woman get yelled at by her boyfriend, so he blasts ham with 6 bullets, only to land in jail with a murder charge. Good fucking job, ass face.

>> No.17735152

Isn't it dying out to actually edgy groups?

>> No.17735349

>Keep to your own business, caring for others without their consent is bad.
>Do not ask for help or bother other people with your existence.
>"Don't be a dick", but oddly specific.
>If someone is a dick, act like an oversensitive landmine because reasons.
>Wait for a green flag before getting an erection, also don't rape.
>Do not take LITERALLY ANYTHING unless its a metaphorical or literal knife in the ribs and they scream for you to do so
>Admit you sucked demon cock
>Dont be an annoying martyr or in the very least be a quieter one.
>Dont beat the shit out of children
>"Dont be a dick (to animals)"
>Dont interact with society. If someone looks at you wrong, add another assault charge to your record.
I could dissect it but its neither worth doing for its merits, nor infuriating enough to care. What candyass wrote this shit?

>> No.17735391

>>17729068
Stop copying me

>> No.17735445

>>17734529
>Might makes Right is a Luciferian ideology
>Lucifer gets BTFO by God
>Doesn't accept he was wrong
Truly the most chucked religion.

>> No.17735589

>>17729068
Dilate

>> No.17736165

>>17731378
I actualy was talking about levey, to treat a guest bad is among the most dishonorable things you can do

>> No.17736475

>>17728995
no 10 shows how superficial it all is, it's a clearly arbitrary distinction that everyone must see, if a philosophy doesn't care about consistency it's all appearance