/wg/-Writing General

[Anonymous No.17648384]

Any progress on your novels?

previous thread:>>17628804

For Prose:
>The Art of Fiction
>Story Genius: How to Use Brain Science to Go Beyond Outlining and Write a Riveting Novel (Before You Waste Three Years Writing 327 Pages That Go Nowhere)
>On Becoming A Novelist
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft
>How Fiction Works
>The Rhetoric of Fiction
>Steering the Craft

For Poetry:
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual
>Western Wind: An Introduction to Poetry

Related Material:
>What Editors Do
>A Student's Introduction to English Grammar
>Garner's Modern English Usage

Suggested books on storytelling:
>The Weekend Novelist
>Aristotle's Poetics
>Hero With a Thousand Faces
>Romance the Beat

Suggested books on getting your fucking work done you lazy piece of shit:
>Deep Work
>Atomic Habits

Traditional publishing
> Formatting manuscript
https://blog.reedsy.com/manuscript-format/
> Write a query
https://www.janefriedman.com/query-letters/
> Track your query
https://querytracker.net/

Other Resources
>General grammar/syntax/editing help
https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/purdue_owl.html
> When/where/how should I write?
https://jamesclear.com/daily-routines-writers
> What software should I write with?
https://self-publishingschool.com/book-writing-software-best/
> Amazon Publishing to make that KDP monie
https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200635650
> Be like Charles Dickens and write serially
https://www.royalroad.com/
> Basic overview of the Screenplay format
https://screenwriting.info/

[Anonymous No.17648466]

The books in the generals specifically for prose how much help will they be. I'm willing to do the work

[Anonymous No.17648500]

How do I become a better writer? I like fantasy.

[Anonymous No.17648562]

>>17648384
MY MADE UP ANARCHO-PRIMITIVE SOCIETY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IT WOULDN'T WORK, BUT I DON'T CARE! I LIKE IT AND THAT'S OKAY!

[Anonymous No.17648585]

>>17648500
I think you're trying too hard to emulate the mainstream idea of fantasy, with the stiff victorian-esque style.

I'd suggest just trying to find your own writing voice. There's some promise there. I did perk up at the idea of a "chime staff"

[Anonymous No.17648610]

45k words into my first draft with a pace of 5k words a week. It's really shitty (not surprised bc 1st time writing this long) but I'm satisfied with just finishing a book and telling a story. It's about time travel, btw.

[Anonymous No.17648850]

>just write
Thanks, guys. I'm starting to see my writing really improve.

[Anonymous No.17648857]

i want to send my work off to publishers soon, do i just spam their inboxes with unsolicited messages?

[Anonymous No.17648867]

>>17648500
this is pretty good, definitely has potential

[Anonymous No.17648876]

>>17648857
agent get one
social media, get some, ideally.
get published in some magazines, blog, etc, ideally

[Anonymous No.17648879]

>>17648850
Linkara, is that you?

[Anonymous No.17648899]

>>17648857
most dont accept unsolicited messages, you need an agent.

[Anonymous No.17648979]

>>17648899
Or network and have connections. At least you can just pay up front to have an agent. Network and connections are partly an issue of classism and social positioning. Not everyone has the chance to network equally well. It's a lot easier to get published if you went to Harvard.

[Anonymous No.17648982]

>>17648500
Pretty nice, I agree with the guy who said to try and find your voice.

[Anonymous No.17649011]

>>17648857
>do i just spam their inboxes with unsolicited messages?
Hell no. Read their submission guidelines first or it'll just end up being deleted. Also find which publishers deal with the genre of your work before you send.

[Anonymous No.17649274]

>>17648850
>The cutest cat-girl in the world! I thought giddily.
If this shit doesn't have dragon porn I'm not reading it.

[Anonymous No.17649886]

I'm thinking of playing feedback matchmaker for the thread. Since nobody wants to post their shit in here, and the discords are all terrible, I'm thinking we just do something like this.

>i post an email here
>you email me a(n anonymized) pdf and tell me its wordcount
>i pick someone else whose submission is about the same length and (based on the first few lines and a quick scan) seems close to your own ability
>i send your submission files to one another
>you reply with feedback
>i send your feedback once i've received both of them

Would you use this y/n? If you wanted to carry on a conversation about the feedback after you get it, I'm sure you two could meet back up in the thread.

[Anonymous No.17649894]

>>17649886
Try royal road for feedback trades. I did and it worked out well.

[Anonymous No.17649908]

>>17649894
If you intend to traditionally publish your work, posting it on RR first will likely make you unable to do so.

[Anonymous No.17649917]

>>17649908
True. But at the end of the day traditional publishing is a waste of time IMO.

[Anonymous No.17649922]

>>17648500
>"Chance is best left to those who dare to dance with the wind."
lmao

[Anonymous No.17649929]

>>17648384
https://pastebin.com/NW21QGAw

I continued the story a little bit, feedback appreciated.
In the last thread i was told my sentences are too long so i'm trying to make them shorter.

[Anonymous No.17649936]

>>17649917
Sure thing, RR user.

[Anonymous No.17649939]

>>17648384
Fucking hell I just want to finish... Spent years on the damn book, love every page, but can't write with a schedule, can't write regularly, can't write a full chapter without correcting every other sentence like an autist.
I JUST WANT TO FINISH THE FUCKING THING

[Anonymous No.17649975]

>>17649886
I don't write in English so no.

[Anonymous No.17650020]

>>17649936
You're not wrong. Most if not all I have read on RR is very amateur fiction. But having said that I haven't purchased a book traditionally for a long time now. Publishers are gate keepers and it isn't about how good your book is, but the agendas and nepotism. I'm not salty about it (much I guess), I'm just going to put my fiction online to build a readerbase, and then from that ideally sell through self-publishing.

[Anonymous No.17650045]

I keep seeing people saying they want to write, but they have no ideas. I don't understand this logic. The only reason I got into writing is because I had stories I wanted to tell. Why would anyone want to write if they don't have something they want to write? What is the appeal of writing if you don't have ideas beforehand?

[Anonymous No.17650054]

>>17650045
Aesthetics. The idea of being good at something is enticing. Like 'man I want to get fit like Rocky during a training montage' good in theory, but the reality of training and fighting is too much for most people.

[Anonymous No.17650090]

>>17649929
doesn't grip me.. just ... boring.

[Anonymous No.17650106]

>>17650090
There's hardly 4 pages to it and you're already asking for major plot points? And i thought i was moving the plot along too fast.

[Anonymous No.17650116]

>>17650054
The problem is, if you don't have a clear goal, then you can't really judge how well you did at getting there. If the goal is just to "write something good", well, there are as many impressions of what's "good" as there are readers and not one objective truth.

[Anonymous No.17650141]

>>17650106
the start of a story is supposed to be interesting, you should start a book as close to the ending as possible.

You realise your character "clicks his heels" about 10 times in 4 pages?

[Anonymous No.17650154]

>it's a royal road story starts with a boring prologue episode

[Anonymous No.17650176]

>>17650141
>character "clicks his heels" about 10 times in 4 pages?

Dance off bro

[Anonymous No.17650636]

I'm going to try mixing tenses in my novel. Not in a grammatically incorrect way, but as a way to differentiate the different parts that make up my novel.
I'm currently 25k words in and have known for a while that there are going to be two concurrent plots. One set in the past, and one set in the 'present'. I'm about to reach the point where I introduce the 'present' plotline (though I will be switching back and forth between them until things join together and the story finishes), and had an idea today that the chapters that are set in the 'present' could be differentiated by having them set in first-person, whereas the 'past' is in third.
What do you guys think? Would this be too jarring for readers? I really like the idea, but if people absolutely hate it I probably won't go through with it.

[Anonymous No.17650657]

>>17648500
You're at that stage where the only way to become a better writer is to keep reading and to keep writing, and collect more ideas, and refine the style of writing you personally want to create.
Because there's nothing wrong with your writing itself. It's interesting, flows well, and is grammatically correct. I don't think there's anyone at this stage who can tell you how to become a better writer, you just have to keep exploring the art.

[Anonymous No.17650740]

>>17650636
wouldn't be jarrnig but present tense is kind of shit

[Anonymous No.17650769]

>>17650636
I personally hate that shit in novels. It adds absolutely nothing. Just pointless "look how witty I am"-fuckery that usually only ends up making a clown of the author, when he gets his tenses mixed up in wrong places. Pick one and stick to it.

[Anonymous No.17650792]

>>17648979
>you can just pay up front to have an agent
You shouldn't pay for an agent, anon. They earn commission based on your sales. Anything else is either a freelance editor or a scam.

[Anonymous No.17650821]

>>17650769
Either you didn't read, or understand, my post. They will be separated by chapters, I'm not going to change tense mid paragraph.

[Anonymous No.17650829]

>>17650792
this

[Anonymous No.17650841]

>>17650045
I see a lot of the opposite. Loads of people with big ideas that don't really want to write and so they procrastinate and call it writer's block or "lacking inspiration". Maybe they just want to daydream rather than write.

[Anonymous No.17650851]

>>17648384
https://pastebin.com/nRxUX8Pg
here's the introduction to something i've been working on. right now, i'm worried if it isn't as gripping as it should be. i'd love to heard thoughts on it.

[Anonymous No.17650991]

>>17650821
>Either you didn't read, or understand, my post.
Right back at ya

[Anonymous No.17651083]

>>17650841
this

[Anonymous No.17651113]

>>17650851
it was my first time on a train.

>lackadaisical

never use this word.

either stick with my father or father.

pretty interesting, reminds me of ayn rand. I think POV uses somewhat too many big words, like maybe he would think train over locomotive?

[Anonymous No.17651133]

>>17650841
Well I see a lot of that too, and I fall victim to that problem as well. It's easy to daydream and come up with stories; finding a way to express them in words is the hard part.

It was mainly the inverse situation that I couldn't relate to.

[Anonymous No.17651210]

Can I get some fast and loose criticism on this? I feel it's too boring

[Anonymous No.17651213]

>>17651113
>reminds me of ayn rand
What a way to tell someone his writing is shit.

[Anonymous No.17651227]

>>17651213
I like ayn rand and it really is similar.

[Anonymous No.17651340]

Can't tell if what I'm writing is genius or manic rambling. Certainly when you are a frenzied state everything you write sounds like the Word of God but to someone else it might read like incoherent schizophasic word salad. I know I'm not writing unintelligibly, only that the thread of what I'm saying seems to weave in and out and towards and away from me without ever coming to a point.

This is why you get someone to read your stuff but I am not writing a story that is human and a approachable but an arcane treatise. This creates a double ambiguity---the person reading it might just not understand what I'm saying because they don't know the subject or my argument resembles the workings of a schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.17651360]

>>17651227
>I like ayn rand
Damn, and here i was thinking this board was literary. How does one even approach libertarian garbage like that?

[Anonymous No.17651374]

Is it okay to include two kind of slice of life episodes at the start of a novel whose ambition is to record about 80 years of history about running away from war, using corruption to survive instability and totalitarianism
I feel they are important to establishing the main character and his origin but the jump from harassing bankers of a different ethnicity (not Jews surprisingly) and looking for a gender bender potion that doesn't exist in ancient manuscripts because the bully tomboy daughter of the coffee shop owner will beat the everliving shit out of you to debating whether participating in a massacre or trying to run across the length of the Balkans from Vojvodina to the Aegean to escape feels like a massive jump in tone

[Anonymous No.17651413]

>>17651360
I don't understand the point of this post, how would one even begin to respond to it.

[Anonymous No.17651459]

>>17651413
>how would one even begin to respond to it
Observe
>>17651360
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.17651473]

>>17651374
Start with the action. Include world building and backstory in dialogue, memory, or flash back. The start of a book has to maintain the tone of the majority of the book otherwise it becomes a shock when it's a completely different book between the first 2 pages and the other 398.

[Anonymous No.17651527]

>>17651459
>ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.17651602]

I'm writing a short story where a man explores the archive of a tyrant who has just fallen and at the end, finds a bureaucrat biding his time until he is needed again while enjoying himself with his harem of secretaries
I'm not sure whether I should make him more willing to explain the functions of the archive and of the tyrant or whether I should make him more cryptic

[Anonymous No.17651631]

>>17651602
Well it depends on the extent of the archive's purpose. Does it have a big twist at the end? Make it cryptic. Does it have a bunch of procedural layers that obfuscate it's simple purpose with layers of bureaucracy? Then have him endlessly explain the needless bullshit.

[Anonymous No.17651675]

>>17651602
is the berucrat an evil servant of the tyrant?

why don't the harem just bail now the tyrant is gone?

[Anonymous No.17651681]

>>17651631
The archive's purpose is more or less to be a soup of pointless information that can at any given point but gathered up to support any proposition or its opposite by the mandarins that lick the ears of the tyrant, whoever he might be
All I'm certain of what he'll say is that he's served a lot of people who tried to rule and that he's confident the new government will need him and his services
I am also tempted to include him laughing at how one of his secretaries died during a kungfu abortion but I feel that'd be very edgy for a story that's otherwise about making conjectures as to what endless books made up of charts, statistics and interpretations thereof might mean and whether they have a specific arrangement that can be charted
The whole thing is supposed to be part of a program of the new government to understand the methods of tyranny and how to avoid them in the future

[Anonymous No.17651708]

>>17651681
>The archive's purpose is more or less to be a soup of pointless information that can at any given point but gathered up to support any proposition or its opposite
That's basically the entire library of case law. Obfuscate the fuck out of it. Look into satirizing textualism and legal positivism. That's pretty funny shit. Don't make it a mystery. One of the funniest things I've ever experienced is lawyers trying to justify stupid positions on cases that are obviously going to go the other way, or justifying a ruling in hindsight with 'legal analysis'. I like it, anon. I'm a lawyer, so if you have any questions I'll try to help.

[Anonymous No.17651717]

Guys please respond to my post. It's only 800 words

[Anonymous No.17651728]

I've gotten bored of my story but I'm too committed to give up. Why must the human brain be so uncontrollable?

[Anonymous No.17651732]

>>17651210
these dialogue tags and forcing a description after every line of dialogue are way too much

>responded amiably

generally the dialogue itself should give us a strong idea of how they are saying it.

also I would use italics for thoughts and quoutation marks for speech

[Anonymous No.17651738]

>>17651728
end it at a decent point and move on, you can always go back to it.

[Anonymous No.17651785]

>>17651738
I'm getting close. if only I had other ideas I was more excited about

[Anonymous No.17651803]

>>17651732
Thanks, that's really comprehensive advice. I made those amendments immediately

[Anonymous No.17651820]

>>17651708
I'm a law student :| on continental though, not common and we're still at a very basic level
Thank you though, I'll try it out!

[Anonymous No.17651905]

>>17651717
Which one is it?

[Anonymous No.17651935]

>>17651905
The bus stop one.>>17651210

[Anonymous No.17651985]

>>17651210
Well, yeah, it's kinda boring. Stuff just happens. You describe all these little details without giving any reasons why they are worthy of attention. They're just not interesting on their own. It's a slice of life, something anyone can see if they step outside and forgets a heartbeat later. Nothing much to say about it. It might have meaning if we knew the rest of the story and had some context, but the excerpt just feels random and pointless, as is.

[Anonymous No.17652255]

I'm having a lot of trouble getting the themes to the story. Sadly I came up with the premise and the story structure before coming up with a reason for it beyond just "it happened."

I'm also not very happy with this bit I wrote to begin a prologue. I'm gonna have to change everything, maybe even protagonist.

[Anonymous No.17652312]

>>17652255
Maybe it's just because I don't read too much fantasy on my own but I always feel like a lot of these pieces like this one over do it with the alien jargon. It feels bloated like you're trying to build an entire world in a single paragraph. You have a whole story to slowly ease in these details and terms, throwing them all at once is such quick succession is overwhelming

[Anonymous No.17652321]

>>17652312
You know that is probably it.

[Anonymous No.17653003]

can i plz start writing? im tired of waiting for /wg/ for permission

[Anonymous No.17653009]

>>17653003
you can get started tomorrow :)

[Anonymous No.17653282]

>>17650141
>you should start a book as close to the ending as possible.
Wait... I am?

[Anonymous No.17653317]

>>17651340
Post it so we can tell you

[Anonymous No.17653411]

>>17651820
>"Ah yes, well, for example, in the case of a Shepard's sheep getting stolen, first we would look in the Lesser Ram Keys, unless, of course, it is female, at which point you would need to cross examine it with Ralph's compendium of husbandry, to see if the animals gender would change any of the bylaws set out in the Keys, as such, we then must denote what kind of theft it was, with the posibility it wasn't even a theft, at which point we would diverge between 101 Ways to Steal Domesticated Animals or possibly Farmer George's Long List of Animal Disappearances Volume IV, Second Edition. Once determined it would be a simple matter of cross referencing the found materials with any variation of ruling subsequently ruled on by a previous leader of the kingdom, depending, of course, on that leaders specific ideological preferences, which can be found in the Annals of Kingly Persuasion circa 245-1398b. Once found, one then can check whether that particular decision and ideological predisposition aligns within the scope of the current religious order's modernized Code of Reformative Ethics, including, but not limited to the order's exceptions from the papacy. Thrice syndicated forms of the correct type, found in Forms and Regulations of Oxen and Various Animal Musings, and altered to suit the current writ, shall be documented and filed with the head transportation office, run by myself obviously, and sent off on the third fortnight."

[Anonymous No.17653424]

>>17651340
>it might read like incoherent schizophasic word salad
>an arcane treatise
yeah
you're writing incoherent pointless shit because that's how your ill mind works

[Anonymous No.17653429]

>Writing porn
>Wrote the sex scenes first
>Have no motivation to write the actual story bits

[Anonymous No.17653446]

>>17653429
So just post the sex bit and call it a day. That's the part people care about anyways.

[Anonymous No.17653455]

>>17653429
you got to take me out to dinner before putting it in my butt so get back to work or i aint reading it

[Anonymous No.17653479]

>>17648500
that last paragraph confused me in that the narrator seemed to shift from edmond to a third party observer

[Anonymous No.17653499]

>>17653282
not the ending but the most interesting part of your story. Alot of armature fiction takes a while to get to the meat of the story because people get obsessed with backstory instead of weaving it into the story as it goes on.

[Anonymous No.17653505]

>he thinks getting published will make up for all his shortcomings in life

haha

imagine thinking that

haha...

[Anonymous No.17653579]

>wake up from a nap
>all the loose thematic ends suddenly tie together
Feels good brehs. I haven't felt this mentally sharp in years
I'm afraid of the fog coming back but I'm gonna make the most of this clarity while I can

[Anonymous No.17653595]

>>17653579
soldier on, fren

before the doubt starts creeping back in

[Anonymous No.17653738]

>>17653505
STOP IT
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.17653768]

>>17653505
>>17653738
This is true though, at least for me. And I'll explain why if you ask

[Anonymous No.17653788]

>>17653768
Why

[Anonymous No.17653806]

>>17653788
He's not gonna answer

[Anonymous No.17653866]

>>17653788
The central genesis of my complaints, at least beyond their psychiatry, is lacking something to sustain pride. All my guilt, shame, sadness stems from this. Being published would be a great source of sustaining an objective pride which would be hard to smother with self doubt or degeneration. I could cope with being alone forever, stuck in poverty or infirmary as long as I could gather a sense of pride from elsewhere. My parents will no longer pity me, I would have surpassed the wishes of my grandparents, and would no longer be considered the inferior sibling by my peers. It's like winning an Olympic medal, or getting a Victoria cross, or going to a top 3 University, or being in an impressive profession or making a copious amount of money, even something like having a house and a family. Something to be proud of that other people or yourself cannot refute as being worthy of pride and admiration. I would be allowed to stop acting timid because now I have a right to confidence (before, after losing many of my future prospects, I thought my confident personality was gaudy and crass because I nothing to be confident about. Everyone is searching for something to sustain their pride, feed an ego: often through altering their character, material gain, or note worthy feats. Unfortunately I have been left with absolutely no place to feed an ego so by gaining something that allows an ego, a sense of pride, to be wholly sustained, I would be able to content myself.

[Anonymous No.17653891]

I saw a thread i liked on /mu/ and i thought it would be a great experiment for /wg/. go on this website and make a little song of what you feel your story sounds like (or the mood).
https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/
Here's my song to my story >>17649929
https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/4818702407565312

[Anonymous No.17653903]

>>17653866
All of your problems could be solved by just not caring bro. And the great thing is about not caring, is that it redirects your focus and thoughts onto actual productive pursuits which YOU want to do, which inevitably results in producing things of value.

Stop focusing on what others want and view as "cool", "good", "successful." All of this is fundamentally adolescent and immature in nature. Cut down these barriers and surge past, the only thing you have to fear at that point is a nihilism, which is still far superior to being trapped within the deficient minds of others.

[Anonymous No.17653905]

>>17653866
okay u sus 4 sure

[Anonymous No.17653915]

>>17653411
Did anyone actually think this was funny besides me? Like, was it too lawyerly a joke? Was it beating a dead horse by the end? Was the timing of it actually uncomfortably correct?

[Anonymous No.17653923]

So what're ya'll writing tonight?

[Anonymous No.17653943]

>>17653923
a story about a man with a huge pee pee in a world where small pee pee is the norm In truth its just Rod Serling naked and high on PCP again on the set of 'The Twilight Zone' and the studio guards have to drag him off

[Anonymous No.17653954]

>>17653903
Of course, all stress is a symptom of ambition. I WANT to make MYSELF proud and I want to be proud of myself. Besides, not caring is always easier said than done. Maybe we should just get lobotomies to remove all desire. I want to be able to lie in bed with a smug satisfied look and know I've done enough to deserve this much. You may lower the bar for your internal self but that is no satisfaction

[Anonymous No.17653970]

>>17653923
Same thing as every night anon
Same thing as every night

[Anonymous No.17653974]

>>17653866
I can see why you would hold up being published as a self-affirming goal, but you will never be a true writer if what you seek is extrinsic rewards for it. It's not about that. There is virtually no fanfare, no attention, no groupies or cash piles or shiny trophies for the vast majority of writing, good and bad.

It all has to come from within. If there is one thing I do not doubt about my identity it is that I am a true writer. No matter the circumstance, through long winters of depression and personal turmoil, without any acknowledgement or appreciation, I have always done it, almost every day of my life since I was 16 years old. I have endured poverty, calumny, rejection, abuse, mental illness, cruelty, endless nights alone in horror and desperation, but I have never stopped writing, my faith has never wavered. And I will keep doing it until I die because I am a writer. I did not choose this fate, it chose me.
You gotta think that if you really care about it. I've never given a shit about getting published. Now that I've fully honed my craft I am taking it seriously but that's only because I needed to train before I felt that I was ready. It's pointless to try to get published before you have gained a level of self-mastery. That's when doubt seeps in.

[Anonymous No.17653979]

>>17653923
I'm editing. I hope everyone in here edits, even if they'll never show it to anyone.

[Anonymous No.17654005]

>>17653974
>It all has to come from within. If there is one thing I do not doubt about my identity it is that I am a true writer. No matter the circumstance, through long winters of depression and personal turmoil, without any acknowledgement or appreciation, I have always done it, almost every day of my life since I was 16 years old. I have endured poverty, calumny, rejection, abuse, mental illness, cruelty, endless nights alone in horror and desperation, but I have never stopped writing, my faith has never wavered. And I will keep doing it until I die because I am a writer. I did not choose this fate, it chose me.
>You gotta think that if you really care about it. I've never given a shit about getting published. Now that I've fully honed my craft I am taking it seriously but that's only because I needed to train before I felt that I was ready. It's pointless to try to get published before you have gained a level of self-mastery. That's when doubt seeps in.

based as all fuck, I hope you go far

[Anonymous No.17654024]

>>17653923
I wrote 1000 words today. The main character found one of the guys he was looking for. He got stabbed and his attacker (the other guy the protagonist was looking for) ran off towards the same area where the group is going. The bitch who thinks she should be leading the group pulled a gun on him when he suggested they take the night to care for the stab victim instead of moving on, but she got talked down.

[Anonymous No.17654030]

>>17653923
I've got 3 different short stories I need to finish. 2 of them are really close, I still need to figure out all the details for ending the 3rd one.

I should really get back on them, but they're all fetish coomer stories and I'm not particularly horny right now. It's hard to write porn when I'm not in the mood.

...I know, I need to stop making excuses.

[Anonymous No.17654049]

What does it mean when people describe your writing as “honest” and “raw”?

[Anonymous No.17654056]

>>17654049
It means they want to have sex with you

[Anonymous No.17654088]

>>17653974
I'm sorry, did I say I was trying out for the Olympics or trying to build the world's biggest jenga structure? I chose writing as my source of pride because I enjoy it. I never said I wanted to become a writer because I wanted a source of pride or for fame or allure, no, I said it would solve my problems but solving my problems has never been my main goal. My main goal has been to do what want and be righteously justified in doing it. And I can righteously justify anything with enough time. Maybe you replied to the wrong person or you didn't read my post because I mentioned I would be content in poverty and isolation with pride along to sustain me. But what is being sustained? Not living, action. The fruits of life become sweeter when the man who enjoys them is surer of their flavor. I take pride in my work, I take pride in many things, but those sources are not without doubt. You can doubt your intelligence, you can doubt your looks, you can doubt your friendships and your talents. Objective sources of pride is what I'm talking about: You can't get unpublished, you can unwin a race, you can't uninvent something, you can't get uneducated. No moments of weakness can reason these things from your grasp (as long as they were securely gained). You're fellating yourself in my face for no reason. You clearly are a prideful person who takes no consideration the righteousness of that pride. But I did think you tale was motivating. I don't plan to make authorship my only method of achieving some sense of pride. I could join the army for example and kill a bunch of evil doers (evil only to me) and earn some medals or rank, or I could plant bombs in airports encapsulate evil, or I could try to become a monk and take pride in that. I can't unmonk myself with self doubt, I can't unkill people by insecurity, if I wish I can take pride in these specific acts. Or I could walk into the woods, cover myself in gasoline, and light myself on fire, and while only for a moment, I could take pride in the resolve that would require and the anguish I was being put through. Although my ego would surely perish were I to fail at a task that much in my control. But self immolation is a means to endowing oneself in the pride of suffering.

[Anonymous No.17654163]

>>17654056
... but what if i'm asexual?

[Anonymous No.17654219]

>>17654056
Does it actually?

[Anonymous No.17654330]

Is there a single good story on RR?
>inb4 anons shill their own submission

[Anonymous No.17654365]

>>17654219
It's impossible to say for sure, but my armchair psychoanalytical skills tell me that there are hidden sexual intentions behind that choice of words.

[Anonymous No.17654405]

>>17654049
It means they don't agree with you but they think you're too much of a nutcase to criticize honestly

[Anonymous No.17654410]

>>17654088
ummmm... based?

[Anonymous No.17654414]

>>17654405
They wouldn't call him honest if they didn't agree with him. I still think my sexual reductionist approach is correct.

[Anonymous No.17654434]

>>17654414
Honest about his feelings.
>ARG I HATE NIGGERS I REALLY REALLY HATE NIGGERS
It's honest and raw

[Anonymous No.17654453]

>>17653915
I liked it, but wasn't sure how to articulate that appreciation. Now that I think about it, I've come across a few stories as recently as this week about a bureaucracy getting in the way of a disproportionately major action. There was one, like that post, that was comedic in scope. But there was another that was much more subdued and anxious, like, "Give me the clearance to shoot these terrorists or all the hostages will die!" It's an interesting literary device.

[Anonymous No.17654480]

>>17654365
>sometimes a penis is just a giga-penis

[Anonymous No.17654494]

>>17654330
My Burgerpunk desu

[Anonymous No.17654540]

I'll start writing my "real" story one day, I swear!

>>17653479
I was trying to cleverly tell /wg/ to "just write"

[Anonymous No.17654553]

>>17653891
https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/6007025033543680 (79 temp is also max comfy)
https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/5796966454263808
https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/6277667968516096

>>17653923
I was going to do a few writing sprints today after work on my wip chapter, but I ended up so wiped I ended up being lazy and reclining slowly today.

[Anonymous No.17654556]

>>17654540
> I was trying to cleverly tell /wg/ to "just write"
Kek, I really needed that.

[Anonymous No.17654601]

>>17654553
>>17654553
>https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/6007025033543680 (79 temp is also max comfy)
>https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/5796966454263808
>https://musiclab.chromeexperiments.com/Song-Maker/song/6277667968516096
what the literal fuck is this, is it supposed to sound autistic?

[Anonymous No.17654628]

>>17654601
mayhaps....

[Anonymous No.17654632]

/wg/, if I can't figure out how to make myself hypomanic I am going to kill myself

[Anonymous No.17654641]

>>17654628
>heh, i was just pretending to be stupid

[Anonymous No.17654672]

The murmuring ceased as the robed figure at the head of the table rose from his seat. “Let this meeting of the order of grand architects commence”, he declared raising a fist adorned with an exquisite golden ring. On it was an engraving of a pig.

The others did likewise, each raising a closed fist adorned with an identical ring.

[Anonymous No.17654749]

I'm trying to decide if I want to resolve a scene with a deus ex machina or not. It had always been my plan to, since they need to see the character who would appear immediately afterwards, anyways. But now that I actually have to write it, I'm not so sure if it's a good idea. Is it ever acceptable?

[Anonymous No.17654812]

I have never written an entirely straight female.

[Anonymous No.17654817]

>>17654812
Same. I'm straight and even I find het romance to be mind-numbingly fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.17654871]

I keep hearing it

>just write
>JuSt WrItE
>jSuT wRiGhTe
>jUtS rItE

FUCKING WHY? WHY CAN'T I DO THIS? WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? I DIDN'T USED TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM!

[Anonymous No.17654887]

>>17654871
“I CAN’T WRITE!, he screamed at the messages appearing one after another on his monitor, pounding his fists on the filth encrusted keyboard and accidentally knocking over his enormous cup of soda in the process.

[Anonymous No.17654894]

>>17654871
You are too self conscious. At some level, big ideas, or as small as the next word, you are imparting your own judgement on the words you produce. Just like this post right now is the flow state of my mind processing words to the page instead of a critical thought applied to a blank sheet, I’d save the actual critical analysis should be left to revision. To write long paragraphs about weird characters or something not on point or out of order should be left to revision. Right now the idea of “just write” is the same as knowing a destination and just walking, you don’t analyze whether there’s a rock or a path when you walk, you just walk, your skills up to this point will steer course from there.

[Anonymous No.17655017]

>>17653411
The show yes minister uses this method a lot
Their way of making the joke much more accessible since most people just hear nonsense is to then bound it all up in a more clear punchline
>Prime Minister, I must protest in the strongest possible terms my profound opposition to a newly instituted practice which imposes severe and intolerable restrictions upon the ingress and egress of senior members of the hierarchy and which will, in all probability, should the current deplorable innovation be perpetuated, precipitate a constriction of the channels of communication, and culminate in a condition of organisational atrophy and administrative paralysis which will render effectively impossible the coherent and co-ordinated discharge of the function of government within Her Majesty's United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
>You mean you've lost your key

[Anonymous No.17655087]

>>17655017
Oh that’s funny. Is it all kinda sketch comedy? I’ve never really been able to write punchlines. I have a sort of meandering humor. My friend from law school who used to do stand up loved it because everyone would be enamored by my voice and my mildly amusing talk, only for him to steal the show with the perfectly timed punch line. Not really sure how to work on the quick wit, my wit seems to be more like the simmer of browning onions. (Sad and slow? (Ba dum tiss? (is that how rim shots are even spelled?)))

[Anonymous No.17655091]

I'm not cut out to be a real writer.

[Anonymous No.17655093]

>>17655091
You just did it though. Like right now. Just now.

[Anonymous No.17655100]

>>17655091
That's probably what John Williams thought too

[Anonymous No.17655109]

>>17654894
>you don’t analyze whether there’s a rock or a path when you walk.
Not him but sometimes I do. You know the whole not stepping on shadows or stepping only on same color tiles?

[Anonymous No.17655174]

>>17655109
Oh sure. I’ve done that. And sometimes when writing you need to stop and think about what you’re writing. But if someone is falling for the ‘I can’t write’ bullshit, they’re standing at the door of their hobbit hole, pulling their collar sweating wondering how to walk as if it’s a game of QWOP.

[Anonymous No.17655199]

How exactly would you describe this kind of hairstyle?

[Anonymous No.17655204]

>>17655199
Anime hair.
As in, “yo that boi has anime hair, wtf he two dimensional and shit”

[Anonymous No.17655207]

>>17655199
>asking how to describe something
Dude you have more serious problems

[Anonymous No.17655209]

>>17655199
unkempt curls maybe

[Anonymous No.17655251]

>>17655199
come on anon this one is so obvious look ill give you a hint. rhymes with shmort and shmessy.

[Anonymous No.17655260]

>>17655209
Thanks.

>>17655207
>>17655251
That was my first thought, but compared to myriads of ways to describe other lavish styles I wasn't sure if that would be enough for people to get a clear picture from the get-go.

[Anonymous No.17655332]

>>17655199
gay as fuck lmao.

[Anonymous No.17655349]

Left my short story to simmer for a few days and will most likely complete it tonight. Feels good /wg/. I don't know if I want to share it though.

[Anonymous No.17655375]

>You could have any man on at the tip of your finger, yet you choose this lowly peasant?
>The first time I saw him, he was a feeble coward who could do nothing but to hide in the midst of a war. However when the trial came to him, he answered it. He gladly gave up his humanity for me. Untrained in combat and never scarred by battles, yet he still dared to brave the danger for the sake of others, even if it was a futile one. At the end of the war, when you had grasped the victory in your hands, he was the one who granted me a miracle... at the cost of his future. What I sees before me is no longer a mere brat, but a real man who has risen above mediocrity. For that, he has my respect and loyalty. Know that your insult toward him is an insolence that shall not be tolerated.

[Anonymous No.17655380]

>>17655349
Do it. If it's good we'll like it, if it's shit it'll give people more confidence in their own ability.

[Anonymous No.17655417]

>>17655380
I guess, I'm considering paying for a copyright. I mean I don't expect it to be world changing but if it's shit, I want it to be my shit.

[Anonymous No.17655423]

Should I keep writing?

[Anonymous No.17655434]

>>17655423
Sounds like a school theater play. With the first paragraph as one actor and the rest as another.

[Anonymous No.17655436]

>>17655423
>It was a fine day for wood chopping.
>I wanted his axe, the big and mighty one.
>Not the thick logs that made his biceps stretch and ripple.
>"Hold it tight, Edward".
>Father wrapped my fingers on the ax handle.
>"Now hit it hard."
>How father split his logs.

Lol no.

[Anonymous No.17655548]

RESPON TO MY EMAIL! I DONT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO

[Anonymous No.17655567]

>>17655417
What do you mean pay for a copyright?

[Anonymous No.17655658]

>>17655417
Autistic. So long as you don't translate to chinese no ones gonna steal it

[Anonymous No.17655708]

Is he right?

[Anonymous No.17655808]

>>17655567
Legally make the story mine by registering it I guess is the best way I can explain it.

>>17655658
Can't be to sure these days, especially with all these people taking things from the internet and making money off it. Tons of examples out there.

[Anonymous No.17655816]

>>17648384
i've been paralysed by self doubt and laziness for a long time but i'm finally making real progress with my book

[Anonymous No.17655876]

>>17655436
I wanted it to be childish, but maybe it's too much of a turn-off.

I'll keep on experimenting and writing.

[Anonymous No.17655972]

>>17654817
>you has benis
>you has begina
L E T
U S
M E R G E

[Anonymous No.17655976]

>>17655972
Keep writing anon, I'm getting turned on

[Anonymous No.17655988]

>>17655808
Do you really think you could take some chink to court for "plagiarism" lol

[Anonymous No.17655999]

>>17655976
>We are one
>We have completed the human life cycle
>Our fusion has the potential to unleash smaller, dumber versions of ourselves
>Into a world of disappointment with only the promise of more suffering tomorrow
N O W
G Y R A T E
T H E
H I P S

[Anonymous No.17656027]

>>17655808
Copyrights are automatic. It exists the moment you create your original work. You're probably thinking of trademarks or patents. Trademarks are used for business branding and you can't patent words.

[Anonymous No.17656051]

>>17656027
I read a bit more, I meant registered copyright, not copyright. I wonder though, let's say some guy writes something about an astronaut going to the moon. Then another person writes the same story except changes the details. So the names are different, the setting, and whatever else. The story remains the same though, the astronaut goes up, find aliens and comes back and the end. Is that still copyright infringement? No right? For it to be intellectual theft, it would have to be exactly the same, word for word right?

[Anonymous No.17656098]

>>17656051
You're describing a technique known as paraphrasing. It's not copyright infringement or plagiarism. You could argue, in court, that the offender's work resembles yours too much and seek compensation. You can probably find a bunch of case laws for this exact issue and see what precedence has been set.

[Anonymous No.17656109]

>>17656051
>it would have to be exactly the same, word for word right?
No, there could be some unique concept, or a specific sequence of events that hasn't been done before, which could prove the plagiarism.

But
1. the chances of anyone caring about your story to the point of copying it is less than one in a trillion.
2. the thief should actually make noteworthy profit off the idea, and you'd have to somehow prove that it was thanks to your idea that the work became profitable, before there's any meaning in seeking compensation in court.

[Anonymous No.17656139]

>>17648500
>said
>said
>saidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaidsaid
Nothing wrong with using said, but ONLY using said stands out like a sore thumb.

[Anonymous No.17656162]

"WooHOOOO DAWGY!", he screamed as he began to thrust in the woodcutter's willing ass. "HERE'S ANOTHA' AXE FOR YA BOY!"

[Anonymous No.17656170]

>>17656139
I love said. It's so easy to use. I try to switch it up once in a while like here >>17654540

[Anonymous No.17656187]

Odds, I try to improve general writing first.
Evens, I try to improve academic writing first.

[Anonymous No.17656191]

>>17656187
General writing it is.

[Anonymous No.17656223]

>>17656139
>the poster said

[Anonymous No.17656264]

Why did that guy in Valkyria Chronicles get his own private tank?

[Anonymous No.17656298]

>>17654049
it means they think its too in your face and kind of embarresing.

[Anonymous No.17656310]

Currently writing a short story about a really delusional and bitter based boy a bit like notes from underground. I'm trying to show how pathetic and weird they are while also trying to see if I can end up being accepted by said based boys because they'll miss the point.

[Anonymous No.17656358]

>>17656170
It's not a big deal but it does stand out a bit, won't ruin anyone's enjoyment though. Also, if you want to use said, you could switch it around and add something after:
>"bla" said Crowley curtly
>"hmm" Edmond said, pensively
That kind of stuff.

[Anonymous No.17656383]

Finished my short story. Will share it here tonight after I post it on Royal Road. I need a pen name though.

[Anonymous No.17656404]

>>17656383
Arthur Sinclair

[Anonymous No.17656431]

>>17656383
Artyom LeFuck

[Anonymous No.17656445]

>>17656264
It was literally his own tank. His dad and his dad's gay friend built it.

[Anonymous No.17656450]

>>17650045
I have nebulous ideas, more of a feeling, rather, that I want to put into paper so that when I read it I will feel that feeling again, kind of like trying to describe a dream. But for some reason I cannot accurately summarize what I want to write. Then I give up because it is hard. Sometimes I do manage to do it but it's only because I have enough source material to act as a framework for me to tie my ideas around. Even then it's not very long and to be frank, it's not very good other.

>>17650116
For some reason what you said really resonates with me.

[Anonymous No.17656455]

>>17656383
Ham Ernestway

[Anonymous No.17656492]

>>17655375
I kind of like it.

[Anonymous No.17656501]

what do you do to write every day when you're not working on a project?

[Anonymous No.17656527]

>>17656501
start a new project

[Anonymous No.17656701]

>need to write a scene where PMS hits my main character at the worst possible time
>I have no frame of reference and it will seem like its another 'Man writing about womanly shit he doesn't know about' text
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.17656741]

>>17656701
>pms is a plot point
>I have no frame of reference and it will seem like its another 'Man writing about womanly shit he doesn't know about' text
I hope you're not surprised by this revelation

[Anonymous No.17656762]

>>17656701
i want you to google pms anon
read you silly little boy
i would tell you to ask a woman about it too but ive got a feeling you don't know any

[Anonymous No.17656774]

>>17656701
>PMS hits my main character at the worst possible time
Not really how PMS works, anon. Wouldn't recommend this as a scene.

[Anonymous No.17656781]

>>17656762
>i would tell you to ask a woman about it too but ive got a feeling you don't know any
checkmate
also asking about how someone ejects their uterine lining seems a tad personal

[Anonymous No.17656801]

>>17656781
That's not what you'd be asking. The 'how' is always the same. It's the effects of menstruation that you're looking for, not the cause.

[Anonymous No.17656856]

>>17656701
you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.17656868]

Beginning fiction writer here. How is it that writers are supposed to find their style and their themes? When I read great authors it’s clear that they like to touch on specific themes in their books but I read such a wide array of books that touch such a wide array of themes, it feels difficult to distill it down to just a few things that feel really worth clothing in fiction. The types of books I want to write are just too varied and unrelated I think.

[Anonymous No.17656884]

>>17656868
No one can tell you this, you need to examine what jumps out to you when you read something.

[Anonymous No.17656945]

>>17656868
If you don't have anything that's important, in your own opinion, to say, you have no business writing a book. What a lot of people have is a collection of cool ideas, and they come up with an airy theme they don't care about to pad the wordcount enough that they can sell their ideas as a novel. These books are dogshit. You are not going to make it if you want to write a "type of" book. If you have something you want to write about, that's your theme, and you can think about it and figure out what genre will allow you to say that. You figure out your theme, then you figure out a protagonist that needs to experience that theme, and only then do you start trying to figure out a plot that will get them to do that. That's how you get started, at least.

[Anonymous No.17657018]

As she approached the women's bathroom an employee sprinted over and blocked her from entering. He began tapping the “Men’s” sign.

“But I’m a woman”, she protested.

His only response was a silent shaking of his head.

[Anonymous No.17657055]

>>17657018
Then the man was cancelled. It was worth it to protect the honour of women everywhere.

Meanwhile in the EU where unisex toilets are far more common, there is no issue as they aren't ameridumb.

[Anonymous No.17657088]

>>17657055
> EU where unisex toilets are far more common
I've spent 99.7% of my life in the EU, never seen one

[Anonymous No.17657206]

>>17657088
They're called phonebooths IIRC

[Anonymous No.17657207]

>>17657088
Britbong here.
I've been seeing a bunch of Unisex toilets and 'Parent and Child' toilets recently, which is a much better option.

[Anonymous No.17657225]

>>17656884
I can identify things that jump out to me. Let’s say for convenience sake, 2 or 3 broad genres and themes. The thing is even those seem too mutually exclusive, not easy to be interrelated. I struggle to reign it all in.

[Anonymous No.17657226]

>>17657088
Step outside your house first.

[Anonymous No.17657235]

>>17657207
Britbong here, can confirm. I just thought it was normal everywhere. No wonder we left the EU, we're too good for any club.

[Anonymous No.17657243]

>>17656945
That’s not really what I’m asking. I’m asking how to focus in one let’s say 1 or 2 ideas when you can identify let’s say 3 or 4 that are valuable but can’t all be touched. I just feel like there’s a focus in the mindset of authors of history that I don’t see in myself and frankly, in other contemporary authors either. I feel that we are all over the place even if we do have 2 or 3 things worth saying whereas they are clear, focused on 1 big idea or multiple inter-related ideas for their whole career. How to develop that focus on that 1 thing out of your 3 or 4 that’s really worth writing abou?

[Anonymous No.17657256]

>>17657225
Pick the one you like most first then, for example mine is about finding one's meaning in life and the sub plots are about either finding it or losing sight of that goal and so on.

[Anonymous No.17657264]

>>17656501
Nothing. If I'm not writing my project, then I'm doing other hobbies to cool off. I might do short 15min word sprints to satisfy my daily on my project if I'm not too beat after work

[Anonymous No.17657310]

>>17656383
Writers with pennames are one step above trannies on the ranking of "faggots playing make-believe"
>hmm... no one ever takes me seriously IRL, maybe it's because I have a normal name instead of two initials and a synonym for trees or mountains? Goodbye Duncan Snotters, hello B.M. Pinemount!
I guarantee you if John Steinbeck or Anthony Burgess were alive today they'd both sign their real names to their 4chan posts and probably crosspost them to facebook just for the sake of transparency

[Anonymous No.17657318]

>>17657264
based

[Anonymous No.17657325]

>>17657243
Maybe it's better if you give an example of what you have currently.

[Anonymous No.17657500]

>>17656945
For me I have several overriding themes for my science-fiction series. One is people’s existential fear of death and the cultural, social, geopolitical and religious ways they try to cope with that fear. I also deal with “divine origins,” whether or not we really are “made in the image of God” or if we are just “happy accidents” of evolution. And finally the question of “free will under God,” whether you can truly have choice under the influence of omniscience that can see the future.
How’s that?

[Anonymous No.17657670]

>>17651210
I like it dude. Keep writing, you should nurture your talent.

[Anonymous No.17657679]

How likely is for a European to publish his first book at the US? I don't mean to publish it at europe and then at US, but directly in america.
Supposing my book is good enough to be published and I have no previous published books.

[Anonymous No.17657821]

>>17657310

>Mark Twain, George Orwell, Emily Bronte, Lewis Carrol, Michael Crichton, Stan Lee, etc were "one step above trannies on the ranking of faggots playing make-believe"
>-Anonymous, the great intellectual

[Anonymous No.17657834]

>>17657821
>George Orwell
>real name
A-Anon

[Anonymous No.17657889]

>>17657821
Four of those developed pen names in order to distinguish their lesser work as authors from their real work as inventors, mathematicians, and soldiers. One of those was an actual woman, which is probably the gayest thing a person can be. Stan Lee was personally responsible for the lowest drop in the intellectual level of storytelling in modern memory. My point stands. Refrain from any further commenting.

[Anonymous No.17657912]

It's amazing how much more quickly the words come out when two characters are in a room together. One dude wandering around alone is the slowest shit ever to write. Glad I'm done with that scene.

[Anonymous No.17657989]

>>17657834
I don't know what to make of this post.

>>17657889
You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.17657992]

my pen name is my normal name but i added an extra R for good luck

[Anonymous No.17658025]

Writing a mystery told from multiple POVs. Problem is... one's a rape. How do I write the victim?

[Anonymous No.17658067]

>>17658025
portray it as absolutely horrifying and nightmarish in the moment, but make sure the subtext implies that she enjoyed it

[Anonymous No.17658124]

>>17658025
also make sure everyone gets raped

[Anonymous No.17658171]

>>17658067
Very funny. I've done that before, not doing it again (this time). It wasn't even subtle then.

No, seriously. How do I portray the physical emotion after being violated? What should a strong young girl feel? I want a balance between shattered and vengeful. How do I do that?

[Anonymous No.17658185]

>>17658171
Just don’t. Rape is always cringey

[Anonymous No.17658212]

>>17658185
Don't think I haven't considered chickening out. But yknow. I've thought about it, and it's part of the mystery. Downgrading it to "just" abuse isn't going to work as much. In fact it would look like a blatant avoidance, IMHO.

[Anonymous No.17658275]

>>17658171
Stop thinking about what a girl would think and start thinking about what your character would think. Your character needs to have a reaction, that's the important thing. Don't worry about whether or not that reaction is realistic, worry about whether it's consistent with the way she's behaved so far.
You want her to be vengeful? Why not have her fighting back the whole way through. But you also want her to be shattered. Why not have her go completely numb for a time after the incident before something happens that kickstarts her desire for revenge? I can give you ideas all day but only you will know how to handle your character.
Also rape is cringe and an easy way to get sympathy. It's not something you can chicken out from because it's the most common adversity for female characters to experience. If I had a dollar for every story I've read where a woman gets raped I would have so many dollars i dunno i can't count lmfao what even are numbers.
Try to find a way to get the same character development without rape. and then do the rape anyways lol.

[Anonymous No.17658428]

>>17657207
Unisex bathrooms aren't a better option. Tranny tier opinion.

[Anonymous No.17658440]

>>17658428
Unisex bathrooms are fine.
Just get rid of the outdated cubicles, and have the walls reach the ceiling and the floor to prevent peeking.

Having a 'Parent and Child' bathroom is a great option, because I always hated going into the girls bathroom with my mom as a child.

[Anonymous No.17658478]

>>17658275
Hmmm. That's quite helpful, thanks.

Well it is a side character to be honest. The main characters are the police solving the crimes.

>have her go completely numb for a time after the incident before something happens that kickstarts her desire for revenge?
Such as?

>find a way to get the same character development without rape. and then do the rape anyways
Lol

Like I said, I can downgrade it to abuse. But it's a situation where "oh you can't tell me he DIDN'T rape her" so it's only logical.

[Anonymous No.17658481]

Tired of uncoordinated feedback from anons you may never communicate with again? Come on down for a visit with The Unreal Bro's. We've got a lot of people with works in progress and a handful who have finished projects that are now in revision. Come for the creative conversations, stay for the schizoposting. Certified tranny free since 2020.

featuring F. Gardner from the Call Of series!

discord gg / rSXFqgGx

[Anonymous No.17658527]

>>17658171
Honestly dude, sexual selection is really the only advantage women have over men and they hate having it taken away from them. Hence why they always describe it as feeling "powerless". I'm not trying to cheapen it, but I can guarantee you've already understood what it feels like to be raped. For men, being raped is a part of daily existence. Women, as a whole, are the most enthusiastic and subtle rapists on the face of the planet. When you got your Selective Service notification on your 18th birthday, congratulations, you just got raped. Whenever there's manual labor to be done and everyone looks at you, that's rape. When women are promoted into positions they don't deserve and the media sneers and tells you to like it, that's rape. That's why women love universal healthcare so much, because it will allow them to finally violate the last pretense of male dignity left: the illusion of control over our own bodies.

So just pretend like your female character has just spent an entire day toiling in a factory and has just come to find her wife in bed with a negro, but he has to swallow his pride or else some Affirmative Action tranny judge will steal half of her income and take away her children for "failure to sexually satisfy" or some other trumped up charge.

[Anonymous No.17658557]

i posted in one of the previous wg threads about this but I finished the story about the boxer and the psychoanalyst. I've got an idea in the works about a tale about a cocaine death racer in miam in the 1980s, who gets beaten by college kids who charm his wife away from him, resolves to import higher quality cocaine to the US in order to beat said kids and get back his wife, while all at the same time being the objectively morally good character of the story.
besides that im still working on my novella trilogy.

[Anonymous No.17658559]

>>17658440
>Unisex bathrooms are fine.
For you and trannies. But nobody's going to change their minds.

[Anonymous No.17658570]

>>17658527
Cringe and edge. Get a grip.

[Anonymous No.17658606]

>>17658527
Based and reasonable. Keep posting.

[Anonymous No.17658681]

>>17658481
Is this the discord version of the Goodreads group that I never joined?

[Anonymous No.17658698]

>>17654540
>I was trying to cleverly tell /wg/ to "just write"
It WAS clever, and I thought that's what you were going for. Could have been a bit more clear, but then, maybe that would have compromised the message.

[Anonymous No.17658727]

>>17658681
Nah, that's a different discord that F Gardner is also in. This one is more of a writing group whereas that one is a book club.

[Anonymous No.17659607]

>>17656701
Woman here if you are still here to answer your questions. What do you mean by "PMS" hitting? How do you want her to be impacted?

[Anonymous No.17659661]

>>17659607
Tranny. Just let him abandon the scene or fail. There's nothing you can possibly do to teach him, even if you are a woman.

[Anonymous No.17659731]

Chapter 7 is now complete. My book is now 28,000 words long, and is very likely going to be 10x that length by the time I'm finished.

[Anonymous No.17659754]

Do you see this picture? The sense of scale, verticality, the wholeness of it? Do you see how it puts a person in perspsective of the environment around them? This vastness is what I'm trying to emulate the most in my writing, I want the scale of the world to be understood by the reader. If the characters are in a spaceship then I want the readers to remember that they're in a small moving room amidst a titanic void. If the characters are moving through a forest I want to impart how far above the canopy is and how it filters light through it, how it creates an entire world within itself.

[Anonymous No.17659791]

How do girls feel like when they have big titties? I need to know for writing purposes

[Anonymous No.17659830]

>>17659791
I imagine similar to you having a big belly but without the negative social context.
It's a part of you thats kinda goofy and inconvenient but you're used to it and dont notice it really. That is until it becomes relevant or funny to point out as a joke (by yourself or others) or when you use it to mog someone (bellybounce bodycheck).

[Anonymous No.17659836]

>>17659830
>bellybounce bodycheck
idk that sounds kinda gay

[Anonymous No.17659871]

what's your novel about /wg/?

[Anonymous No.17659876]

>>17659871
Cute girl lesbians suffering

[Anonymous No.17659878]

>>17659871
A man on a journey to uncover the secrets behind the reasons why he stinks so bad. Currently at 340k words.

[Anonymous No.17659885]

>>17659871
cute lesbian girls doing cute lesbian things and suffering ptsd along the way with some sprinkles of space naval battles where hundreds of thousands die meaningless deaths for no gain whatsoever

[Anonymous No.17659900]

>>17659878
Is that your diary desu?

[Anonymous No.17659902]

>>17659871
A kid getting raped by a boar.
>>17659876
>>17659885
As opposed to male lesbians?

[Anonymous No.17659907]

>>17659902
>male lesbians
Also known as trannies

[Anonymous No.17659909]

>>17657500
Yeah, that's pretty nice. All of your themes feed each other and none should detract too much from the main one.

[Anonymous No.17659944]

>>17659871
A man and his trap descending into hell together for the purpose of exploration.

[Anonymous No.17659951]

>>17659871

portal fantasy/iskai with a twist. you know the stories where some kid catches a shooting star, goes on a journey to wonderland , finds out he's the chosen one, discovers his magic powers and returns home a better person?

first off, the shooting star thing? he caught it alright, but it didn't give him magic powers, it just blew his arm off and filled his body with shrapnel. Leaving him a broken and bitter person before the age of 13

The wonderland? Yeah, about that. Turns out that a place where the rivers run black with ink and trees grow lightbulbs instead of fruit is kind of inhospitable particularly when wonderland is so heavily urbanized you need to find a park just to forage. and those are just the days when the wind doesn't shift and fill the air with chlorine gas. yeesh

Chosen one? Not really. Plenty of other kids have wound up here before him, and most of them weren't severely physically handicapped. The only humans in a hostile world, they've banded together for survival against the the strange beasts that rule the city, but the courts of are on the brink of war and these kids are caught in the crossfire

It's a good thing they have magic powers then right? And nobody has a stupid ability like "making things taste slightly different", right? Haha, that would be crazy. Oh please god don't tell me you're serious. He'll be dead in a week

[Anonymous No.17659960]

>>17659951
>you know the stories where some kid catches a shooting star
Not really no

[Anonymous No.17659962]

>>17659960
fuck you. I liked it.

[Anonymous No.17659976]

why should I bother to do anything if everyone shits on every fucking idea and opinion I express

[Anonymous No.17659978]

>>17659951
I won't lie, that sounds subversive for the sake of being subversive. Let me guess, the main character is a jaded asshole but is somehow also a massive moralfag/forced to be a moralfag by a romantic interest?

[Anonymous No.17659980]

>>17659976
Not everyone does, 4chan isn't the real world.

[Anonymous No.17659985]

>>17659978
gee, thanks. I'm glad I'm so glad I said anything. Why don't I just fucking kill myself?

[Anonymous No.17659993]

>>17659985
bro? its shit, don't get so defensive
>inb4 my ideas are LITERALLY all I have
then you should put a little more effort into developing them

[Anonymous No.17659996]

>>17659980
everyone does it. Constantly. It's that from all angles. Jesus fuck no wonder I'm constantly fucking depressed all the time. Either I'm surrounded by assholes from every side, or I really am as fucking worthless as everyone tells me?

why the fuck am I getting vaccinated tonight? Things would be fucking better if I just got the virus and died somewhere

[Anonymous No.17659999]

>>17659985
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I am allowed to criticize your idea. If you can't handle that then don't share it on a thread dedicated to discussing writing.

[Anonymous No.17660013]

>>17659996
>self absorbed defeatist
>makes perceived personal problems the fault of others
you sound insufferable

[Anonymous No.17660018]

>>17659996
Negativity invites negativity

[Anonymous No.17660024]

>>17660013
kill yourself. or better yet, let me kill you

[Anonymous No.17660046]

>>17659871
It's science fantasy epic split into two different storylines, one set in the past, and one the future, both revolving around a large city-state that is ruled by a philosopher-king. This city-state, which is filled with guilds sanctioned by the king to maintain his power, is not fighting a war that has been going on for a thousand years, but is also filled with conspiring noble clans who constantly move to outmanoeuvre one another in the 'senate'.

The 'past' storyline revolves around an assassin who fails a contract to kill the head of a treasonous clan, and as a result sustains an injury that will slowly kill him. He is released from his organization because of this injury, but fears dying as a failure, and so he illegally leaves his city to pursue the target he failed to get. What follows is his personal odyssey through the strange and unknown world beyond the walls of his home, as he both tries to navigate a war that no-one understand, and survive the assassins that have been sent to kill him.

The future storyline follows an ancient king brought out of stasis to find the world is now in the equivalent of a dark age, filled with superstition and rival nations fighting over the rotten remains of a city that is filled with artefacts and weapons they no longer understand. He tries to make sense of the new world, all the while coming to terms with the idea that he was not revived to re-conquer his kingdom and restore civilization, but because ancient threats are re-emerging at the edges of the world, and he is expected to sacrifice himself to stop them, and save a decrepit future he despises.

[Anonymous No.17660054]

>>17660046
not only fighting*

[Anonymous No.17660062]

>>17660046
I really like the past storyline, but I must say, the future one doesn't seem very appealing to me. But it does sound like it has a lot of potential aswell.

[Anonymous No.17660083]

>>17659996
Hey man, it's okay. Not all of one's ideas appeal to everyone, and if they did, you'd sacrifice more making them popular for the sake of it.
Maybe some people do intend to hurt you when they criticize you, but that's not always the case, nor should you feel the need to defend yourself as a person when it happens. If you are going to ask for opinions, expect some criticism, and not always the nice kind.

I also don't like your idea, but I'm clearly not the target audience. Just write it and figure out if you enjoy it first.
Some criticism would be similar to >>17659978, maybe too much of it is going against the roots of the genre itself (for example, useless magic powers for the sake of being useless). But if the drama was centered within the social group and the micropolitics within it, like those oldschool battle royale mangas, I could clearly see the appeal.
Or if the magic powers weren't actually without merit, and they found niche yet interesting ways of applying them (idk some old beast really likes the taste of honey and steals the kid's food, and they think of a way to take advantage of that).
Instead of it just being opposite day, the isekai story, it was more of a group of normal people trying to survive in a harsh fantasy world without being very fantastic themselves. That'd be kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.17660095]

>>17660083
>>17660083
I second making creative uses out of useless powers as something that sounds potentially cool, it was what initially came to mind when I read that part.

[Anonymous No.17660103]

>>17659871
A paladin adopts a demon girl and decides to protect her. He must face his own inner demons whilst protecting her from various cults and his own order.

[Anonymous No.17660105]

>>17660062
I did a shit job of explaining it really. It's 2am and I'm exhausted. There are so many other details and themes in both plots that I just didn't bother to mention, too, but they're pretty heavily connected beyond just sharing a setting. You could say they both influence each other, though I'm not going to spoil exactly what that means

[Anonymous No.17660108]

>>17660105
Royalroad?

[Anonymous No.17660114]

>>17660046
The first storyline sounds cool as fuck. I love how it encourages natural worldbuilding with the whole "leaving the only place you really understand", and character development that might come with it.
Second one I don't really understand, is it the king's destiny to die or was it due to his own actions?

[Anonymous No.17660125]

Nooooo I don't want to take the vaccine and go back to being a wagie

It was so comfy being a neet and writing all day

[Anonymous No.17660131]

>>17659871
A virtual reality where the minds of dead children are uploaded so they can continue living out the lives that were robbed from them in peace. On the surface meant as a consolation to devastated parents who can afford it, actually exists for more nefarious purposes.

[Anonymous No.17660143]

>>17660131
Which? Social experiments?

[Anonymous No.17660142]

>>17660046
I'm gonna go against the other two anons and say the future story sounds cooler than the past one. The description of the past sounds interesting but it's vague on what it'll really be about or what kind of world or themes it'll be exploring, but the king's struggle in the future one has some interesting potential to me.

[Anonymous No.17660168]

>>17660108
It's not on RR. It's not anywhere yet. DESU, when I'm done, I'll probably try to get it published. If I can't get it published anywhere then I'll probably just self-publish it.

[Anonymous No.17660199]

>>17659871
In the first half, a celtic princess and her brother are reunited with their estranged mother when the viking invasions force them to flee their homeland. But something's off about the whole situation. The vikings came from nowhere, mom seems a bit too young to have two teenage children, and her brother is having fits of amnesia.
In the second half, the celtic lass discovers that mom's been drugging and brainwashing her the whole time. She escapes and retraces her steps through the first half to find out what really went down while she was getting mk ultra'd.
I like to think of it as a science fiction story set in a fantasy world.

[Anonymous No.17660247]

>>17659871
A story where heroes defeated an evil king and saved the world...and years later his son shows up to question the truth of what happened and tracks these heroes down.

[Anonymous No.17660319]

>>17659871
an alternate history/fantasy story exploring issues of faith in a world where magic exists as supposedly tangible evidence in support of religion. Setting is located around the mouth of the ganges in a time line where a prophet emerged with tangible powers which subverted christianity and effectively moved the seat of power of the church from Rome to 1200CEish bangladesh leading to an asian setting with repurposed catholic traditions. priests have mystic powers with limited use but enough to convince people that religion is real, 'heretic' wild magic practitioners twist that narrative and are hunted by the church, protagonist is a female novice exploring her powers and dealing with a crisis of faith as she realises that her religion doesn't have all the answers

[Anonymous No.17660338]

>all this scifi fantasy drivel
This is why literature is dying

[Anonymous No.17660362]

>>17660338
Your pseudo intellectual modernist writing is most likely worse than all of the ideas itt. Especially since you, unlike the others, don't even have the guts and spirit to post your idea. Unlike you they write and contribute.

[Anonymous No.17660372]

>>17660362
Feels like he's too smart for the drivel, but too stupid to actually do anything.

[Anonymous No.17660390]

>>17660362
Daily reminder that animefags are the only people doing any sort of writing and publishing in these threads.

[Anonymous No.17660422]

>>17660338
post your story then

[Anonymous No.17660434]

>>17660390
I’ve written 160+ pages in the past year and I fucking hate trannime but whatever you say bro

[Anonymous No.17660439]

>>17659871
Two people, broken and hanging to whatever coping mechanism they have left, finally parted ways. They had both joined a religious group, just obtained land in the small society this "cult" had created, and had lost everything valuable they owned to pay for it.

The story starts with one MC finally accepting they couldn't do it, and that they were desperate enough to follow anybody who appeared trustful and kind enough. He tells this other girl, the one he roped into all of this, that he's out and will escape with nothing to his name.
The girl had already accepted her new way life, and worked her ass off to obtain it. Having longed for a sense of security and belonging for her whole life, she's not giving it away to end up in an even worse position.
The talk ensues, and it is not pretty. After the fact he runs away as quickly as possible, thinking she might rat him out to the group, fearing the violent punishment he has already witnessed.

In an early industrial revolution era, both of them will find themselves percipient to eldritch beings, whose power is unlike anything but the idols the world worships as gods. Yet, even when the nature of reality itself is put into question, their objective in life, if vague, is unchanging.

(As you can tell I've only written the first few pages. Sorry if it sounds like a sales pitch, I just didn't know how else to explain it)

[Anonymous No.17660448]

>>17660434
Keep telling yourself that anon. I believe in you. I’m sure you’ll get published traditionally and your work will be of the classics.

[Anonymous No.17660466]

>>17660448
>I’m sure you’ll get published traditionally and your work will be of the classics.
I never said either of those things. I was protesting your
>Daily reminder that animefags are the only people doing any sort of writing
statement, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.17660485]

>>17660338
I don't know what to tell you brother, I prefer reading literary fiction too, but the only things I personally like to write are genre schlock. I write fantasy and I write military/action thrillers. That's all there is to it. I would love to one day write something half as great as Umberto Eco, that manages to be genre-ish but distinctly literary, but I don't have ideas for such a thing, and I get ideas by writing, so I'm going to keep writing schlock.

[Anonymous No.17660553]

>>17660466
It’s okay, anon. Denial is a hell of a drug, but soon even you will finally admit to it.

[Anonymous No.17660558]

>>17660553
Whatever you say schizo

[Anonymous No.17660581]

>>17660434
This is flawed because their are comparatively very few tranny anime nerds in japan, where all of this shit comes from. It's an interaction of anime's uninhibited fetishism interacting with western leftist gender dogma. Anime doesn't make you a tranny, drinking the tranny koolaid makes you a tranny

[Anonymous No.17660608]

>>17660581
Ignore him, anon, he’s just coping at this point.

[Anonymous No.17660612]

>>17660434
160 pages is what, 48,000 words in a year? Congratulations, but know that there are anime nerds that write 10x as much in the same amount of time. The quality is probably quite similar too.

[Anonymous No.17660634]

>>17659607
If you're still around, anon, could you help me with this? >>17658025

[Anonymous No.17660642]

>>17660634
Yeah, don’t bother, rape is a touchy subject and no one gets it right

[Anonymous No.17660662]

>>17660634
Unfortunately I haven't been raped so not really, sorry anon

[Anonymous No.17660693]

>>17660634
Look bud, vanilla rape is basically just sex except the man slaps the woman around a little bit first. Sometimes he doesn't even hit her, it's just the >implication of his willingness to use violence and her inability to stop him that makes it a rape. That's why many traditional societies will hold a woman who isn't killed or seriously hurt during a rape responsible and dishonored. Ever gotten your ass kicked? If not that's a bigger problem than you not being a woman. The feeling of utter powerlessness that it leaves you with, the sense of being less than you were, the vulnerability. If you have been on the losing end of a real fight, just imagine that feeling multiplied by the uncleanliness of forced sex and you've got a start.

[Anonymous No.17660710]

>>17660693
That’s how we mated before human became civilized.

[Anonymous No.17660722]

>>17660693
I can't tell if you think rape is bad or not

[Anonymous No.17660732]

>>17660722
It’s just another form of human sex, I just don’t understand the stigma behind it.

[Anonymous No.17660742]

>>17660732
The stigma behind raping or the stigma behind being raped, or both?

[Anonymous No.17660752]

>>17660742
Both.

[Anonymous No.17660775]

>>17660752
Seems like you explained both of those pretty well with your own post though. If you get raped, it means you failed to control the mate selection process, and in both antiquated and modern contexts you're damaged goods. If you rape someone it's generally considered bad because of the mentioned physical and psychological consequences, and also

[Anonymous No.17660779]

>>17660662
Do rape-plays count or is it not authentic enough.

[Anonymous No.17660780]

>>17660775
and also that you are damaging someone else's property (wife/gf/daughter)

[Anonymous No.17660782]

>>17660722
Do I think rape is bad? I guess so. Getting raped is bad. But getting your ass kicked is bad too, and I just recommended that that guy try getting his ass kicked if he never has before. If you think violence is bad, do you think the world is bad? Do you think reproduction by non-human mammals is bad? Because almost all of them doing through forcible penetration.

[Anonymous No.17660802]

>>17659661
>author asks a question about biology he doesn't understands and gets that asking on an anonymous image board is better then publishing with a completely warped perspective
>he must be a tranny
>also everyone who replies must is a tranny
the absolute state of /wg/

[Anonymous No.17660820]

>>17660782
Do animals care about getting raped though? Most mammals go into heat in specific periods and are otherwise uninterested in sex. I'd imagine during those periods the sex is welcome on some level, though I obviously don't know what animals think. I'm not an expert on all the different mating processes of animals that need penetration to mate, but I think some of them are significantly more "rape-like" than others, and the less human-like they are the more alien their experience of consciousness is from ours.

[Anonymous No.17660837]

>>17660779
I haven't done that either, but probably not. In rape-play the girl has full control over who she fucks and when she's fucking them, which is pretty much the exact opposite of rape. It's just play-pretend danger.

[Anonymous No.17660905]

>>17660612
It’s actually 100,985 words and I took June and July off. Also didn’t start writing until late April last year.

[Anonymous No.17660906]

Any tips on ways to make good narrative use of speculative special powers that goes a little beyond "because its cool"?

[Anonymous No.17660934]

>>17660905
What size font are you using where it's around 600 words a page? Usually it's 200-300.

[Anonymous No.17660937]

>>17660934
12 Times New Roman

[Anonymous No.17660946]

>>17660937
Is it single spaced?

[Anonymous No.17660951]

>>17660946
Yes

[Anonymous No.17660953]

>>17660906
What do you want to write a book about?

[Anonymous No.17660965]

>>17660951
Usually it's double spaced. What are you writing about?

[Anonymous No.17661003]

>>17660953
it's a space fantasy/soft scifi planetary romance about the conflict between different alien species. I want each species to have a signature special ability but I wanted to ensure there's some meaning and narrative purpose behind the powers I end up settling on.

[Anonymous No.17661004]

>>17660965

[Anonymous No.17661010]

>>17660662
Okay, but I can get a lady's thoughts on 1) the subject and 2) how to handle it in fiction? If you're not comfortable answering, that's understandable, just say no, thanks.

>>17660693
That's a good one. Yes I did get my ass kicked. But that was when I was a really tiny kid and I can't imagine it comes anywhere near rape.

>>17660779
"Rape-play" is a joke. It's an illusion of rape when the power is totally on the other side.

[Anonymous No.17661012]

>>17660965
It’s a collection of science-fiction short stories in a shared universe. It was my proof of concept before I started writing a novel.
First one was pretty simple, it was just about an alien race having a violent encounter with another race in a botched first contact scenario.
Second one was about a human expedition vessel landing on a frozen world and accidentally release an alien bioweapon (pretty cliche admittedly).
Third one was a Past/Present double story about the beginning of a total war between two alien races, and the end of the war where the protagonist struggles with his race carrying out a genocide.
Fourth one was about a Human ambassador on a border world with a belligerent, ancient alien empire as he deals with a conspiracy bent on triggering a war between the two.
The one I’m currently working on (50 pages in) is about an alien slave ship crashing on an enigmatic world that causes terrifying hallucinations in the survivors, as they try to escape the planet and pursue their own secret goals.

[Anonymous No.17661015]

>>17661004
>is the schoolmaster a modern erection
Not bad but needs an editing pass

[Anonymous No.17661017]

>>17661004

[Anonymous No.17661020]

>>17661010
I'm just trying to say being a woman doesn't give anyone a more knowledgeable perspective on rape in and of itself. You could ask more specific questions, I'm just not sure what you're asking for at all or what I could tell you that the average person couldn't.

[Anonymous No.17661049]

>>17661020
>being a woman doesn't give anyone a more knowledgeable perspective on rape in and of itself

True, but it comes closest I guess. I've also been doing research reading victim accounts.

I guess my question would be more from a /lit angle then. How do you want to see rape portrayed in a detective drama, if at all? What do you think you would feel if you were raped as a teenage girl? What would you feel, and how would you react if your friend tells you she was raped?

>that would be helpful too as I'm trying to write a multiple POV story, the reaction of the friends is also important

[Anonymous No.17661084]

>>17661012
I am about to start something very similar, though in fantasy. I'm surprised at how similar we are approaching the medium. Best of luck to you.

[Anonymous No.17661093]

Tips on writing an episodic story? I'm having trouble reconciling the single long form narrative structure with the self contained episodes that need to be somewhat self contained despite still building and following up on each other with a common through line?

[Anonymous No.17661094]

>>17661084
Thanks bro, you too

[Anonymous No.17661148]

>>17661093
Best tip I ever got: ALL stories are episodic.

How long/short are your "episodes" that you're having issues?

[Anonymous No.17661236]

>>17659871
An isekai where protag has knowledge of the setting/history and passion for it, while antagonist doesn't care about either, but has limited knowledge of how events are supposed to go to reach canon end and tries to enforce them.

[Anonymous No.17661537]

>>17659871
cute girls fighting each other

[Anonymous No.17661553]

>>17661537
With their dicks?

[Anonymous No.17661564]

>>17661553
no but i have a couple of tomboys

[Anonymous No.17661573]

>>17659871
Being removed from my ordinary life, meeting new people who are completely different from my previous social circle and learning to let go of my oneitis.

[Anonymous No.17661597]

>>17661049
I'm not against rape being portrayed in a detective drama, or anything really. Depending on the plot I think it's okay not to delve too deeply into the topic if it's not central to the story and major characters, though this depends a lot on your story. It's hard to imagine how one would respond to something traumatic, as imagination is likely to be different than reality. I'm sure I would have been upset and traumatized, feel filthy powerless etc, and it probably would have had long term consequences on my feelings about sex one way or another. A lot of how your character would react would depend on the girl herself. Some might be a complete mess, some might be numb or put on a brave face.

As for if it happened to a friend when I was a teenager, I'd feel horrified and sad for her and want to be supportive, but it would probably also make me unsure of how to relate or interact with her and might lead to distance. Sorry if these answers are too general or vague to be helpful.

[Anonymous No.17661644]

>>17661597
>it's okay not to delve too deeply into the topic if it's not central to the story and major characters, though this depends a lot on your story
It is just one of the crimes in a standard length novel so I expect not to have to go too deeply into it

>A lot of how your character would react would depend on the girl herself. Some might be a complete mess, some might be numb or put on a brave face
I'm going for numb, then brave, angry and vengeful, and finally cathartic. A big part of the arc is the transition between these phases. I suspect that's where the main trouble for me will be.

>unsure of how to relate or interact with her and might lead to distance
That's helpful, thanks. Though her friend is going to be the link between the victim and detective, so there will have to be help given.

>Sorry if these answers are too general or vague to be helpful
Not at all. You've been very helpful thanks.

And the other anons as well.

[Anonymous No.17661973]

What are some equally engaging and high stakes whodunnit? scenarios that are NOT a murder mystery?

[Anonymous No.17662001]

>>17661973
Gentlemen thieves informing people in advance they intend to steal something incredibly valuable, then pull it off despite people knowing it was coming.
Read Leblanc's Arsene Lupin stories.

[Anonymous No.17662007]

>>17662001
how is that an whodunnit if you already know who does it?

[Anonymous No.17662031]

>>17662007
>refuses to read Arsene Lupin and discover the books are written from the viewpoints of other people and figuring out which of the characters in the story is Lupin in disguise and how he's going to steal from them is the whole point
NGMI

[Anonymous No.17662076]

>>17659871
I'll let you know when I figure it out myself. Based on preliminary feedback, it's just an expression of my mental illness. In my head I have loftier ambition but channeling some raw, unmitigated madness is definitely a component of it. The events of my novel so far:
>protagonist wakes up, smokes a cigar
>performs cunnilingus on his wife
>fucks one of his daughters (implied)
>goes to work, performs a ritualistic summoning of some kind using his co-worker's iPhone 5
>the summoned bursts out of the coworker's stomach
>protagonist takes the baby home, leaves it with his wife (planning on just completely relegating the demon/baby to background noise)
>begins descending a passageway beneath his home (oedipal allegories abound)
I don't give a shit about plot or story or characters or meaning or jannies or niggers or much of anything really. The words all lining up nicely is priority #1. What I'm writing is 100% unpublishable but I don't give a shit. At the end of the day I just want something I can feel authentically represents what I value in literature.

[Anonymous No.17662181]

>>17660802
>author is bent on writing about biology he can't relate to or understand instead of leaving it to the other 50% of the population because ??????
Really gets you thinking

[Anonymous No.17662224]

>>17662181
>You aren't allowed to write anything you don't experience
How is your diary coming along anon?

[Anonymous No.17662432]

>>17662224
Nice strawman, tranny. I'm just saying it's very stupid to write about something half the world knows better than you. It's like me writing about the work of a mathematician for a science journal despite failing math in high school. Very, very stupid.

[Anonymous No.17662438]

>>17662432
I don't think anon was going to write a scientific dissertation on PMS anon. It's just physical symptoms, it's like saying you can't write a character with cancer if you've never had cancer.

[Anonymous No.17662460]

>>17662438
You're putting words in my mouth yet again and missing the point. And it would indeed be very stupid to make cancer a plot point in your story without any real life references and knowing how it affects the mentality and behavior of a person, beyond the Wikipedia listing of symptoms

[Anonymous No.17662565]

>all this because some anon can't stop chomping tranny bait

[Anonymous No.17662571]

>>17662460
If you've ever felt pain, nausea, or negative emotions you already know what PMS feels like.

[Anonymous No.17662749]

>>17662571
There are issues like cramps and heavy flow that no man or tranny is likely to know about firsthand