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Is it possible to impress an arthoe by being a connoisseur of heroic literature? What is your favorite pieces of heroic literature?

>> No.17578874

Arthoes don’t like literature they like Harry Potter, the perks of being a wallflower and rupi kaur

>> No.17578923

>>17578874
Even arthoes studying literature have no clue about the stuff we talk about here. I started using Tinder again a week or so ago and although arthoes like writers none of them even knew Borges or Joyce, which are like -- I said I liked those because they're the most well known. I have no clue what they actually read, it has to be some kind of racist, transgressive, diverse stuff or Holocaust poetry / literature, that's always one there too -- at least here in Europe.

>> No.17578988

>>17578866
If you're ugly, no.
If you're good-looking, yes.

>> No.17578996

>>17578988
/thread

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>>17578866
there are literally no art hoes where I'm from
how the fuck do I get arthoe gf bros

>> No.17579019

>>17579006
Go to university

>> No.17579042

>>17579019
I am in university and I'm about to graduate this shit lockdown year without an arthoe gf

>> No.17579076

>>17578923
>like writers none of them even knew Borges or Joyce
You must have come out as incredibly pretentious or just as a name-dropping boy. I had a discussion about Rilke with a girl on Tinder.
>>17578866
Just pretend you have read the decadents and tell them they are the “French Oscar Wilde”.

>> No.17579078

>>17579042
Your best bet now is reading bell hooks at a hipster coffeehouse and hoping you're attractive enough that one likes you.

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17579084

>he "likes" arthoes
Get a life, arthoes are just ugly women who went to college.

>> No.17579094

>>17578923
>>17578874
This. If you actually try to talk to them about literature they will probably get intimidated and then go on Twitter and rant about the dude she met who tried to explain books to her.

>> No.17579179

>>17578923
>they actually read, it has to be some kind of racist, transgressive, diverse stuff or Holocaust poetry / literature, that's always one there too
what

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>>17579094
I’m pretty midwit tier when it comes to being literate but conversations with arthoes have made me feel like a total bigbrain.
>tfw have a female friend who studies literature at the most prestigious university in the country
>once tried to talk to her about someone as entry level as CAMUS of all people
>she started going “uuhhhh ummm YEAH I love him but I haven’t read him in years so...”
>she tries to switch the conversation back to Steinbeck (who we studied together in high school)

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>>17578866
Seek help or ngmi
https://youtu.be/cXGjN4XOehE
https://youtu.be/6yHae6zA4ZM
https://youtu.be/lyjJ99ipXqw

>> No.17579219

Art hoes are easily impressed by lefty theory
t.lost my virginity to an art hoe in freshman year thanks to debord

>> No.17579228

>>17579202
>nofaper
do I lose my literacy when I stop cooming?

>> No.17579259

>>17578866
The obsession with “art hoes” is a way of sublimating pederasty. The girl in OP’s pic admittedly has good tits but generally these girls look like 14 year old boys.

>> No.17579263

>>17579006
Tell us where you’re from. There must be at least a few...

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>>17579259
what?? they're full grown women? because they're not obese? fucking americans man...

>> No.17579301

>>17579280
They’re fully grown chronologically but they look like young boys a lot of the time and have the mind and maturity of adolescents as well.

>> No.17579309

>>17579301
that's just (goodlooking) women bro

>> No.17579328

>>17579179
You've clearly never been to university or are over 30.

>> No.17579332

>>17579309
“Good looking women are women without femininity”. I guess in a way it’s good that you work out your deviancies in this way so you don’t fall into the worse degeneracy of pederastic homosexuality.

>> No.17579342

>>17578866
Get a gf who likes you. And turn her into a good reader when I met my gf she used to read fantasy and Harry Potter type books. Now she reads dostoyevsky and Roberto Bolano. It takes work though, to redpill in doses.

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>>17578866
Alas!

>> No.17579357

>>17579342
>take away women’s agency and make them read midwit slapdash drivel, mold them into a weak version of your deranged self
There’s the mind of the Dostoyevsky reader for you.

>> No.17579365

>>17579332
what do you think normie girls are doing when they shave every inch of hair off their body, wear little meme clothing, and act ditzy? If anything arthoes are less prone to affecting youth

>> No.17579372

>>17579259
Well, I can't fuck cute 14-year-old boys so what the fuck do you want from me?

>> No.17579383

>>17579357
I didn't say I think dostoyevsky is the ultimatum. But it's better to read dostoyevsky than Harrypotter at 24. We have good discussions about dostoyevsky anon, I'm fine with it.

>> No.17579408

>>17579365
They’re acting like little girls, not little boys. And affecting youth, to the extent that it exists in the arthoe, is at most a secondary quality to what we’re talking about here. The main factor is biology. You like girls that look like little boys. And your only choices are not a girl who acts ditzy to seem young or a girl that looks like a young boy. That’s just a dichotomy cooked up in the fevered mind of a pederast.

>> No.17579425

>>17579372
Nothing I just want it to be acknowledged.

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>>17578866
I see a lot of dudes adopt the male aesthetic equivalent of art hoes, that seems to be the only thing that works on them.
Used to be if you were hot and rich, all manner of chicks jumped on your dick. Advertising has made ones personal aesthetic (clothing and media choice) so synonymous with personality that certain girls wont hop on your dick unless you've got some online pictures at galleries and festivals, and show up to your date wearing rolled up jeans with no socks.
So, be hot and rich, and cynically dress like them.

>> No.17579456

>>17579408
How do they look like boys, I genuinely don't get what you're talking about.

>> No.17579497

>>17578866
The art hoes you're thinking of literally do not give a shit. Half of them date normie bro types, and finance guys (while claiming to hate them) and the other half date alt-chads who skate or listen to like punk music and hip hop. They date people who are well socialized and who they don't feel embarrassed about to show off to people. Taste has absolutely nothing to do with it.

There are other types of "art-hoes" but they mostly just dress and act either hyper normie or hyper autistic and even then only maybe like half of them would give a shit about your artistic sensibilities and that's only because it's something to talk about.

Literally the only girls you can actually "impress" with that stuff are full on boring normie netflix addicted types who are wholly unfamiliar with those interests but like the idea of your projected image as "cultured" or academic. And of course that's still and entirely superficial trait that means nothing in the long run.

Women are a meme. It's honestly not even worth bothering with them.

>> No.17579507

>>17579357
based post

>> No.17579544

>>17579507
That’s true, I’m also the one in the thread accusing guys of pederasty. I’m unimpeachably based.

>> No.17579550

>>17579544
true but also we both clicked because of the image...

>> No.17579554

>>17579544
You're probably projecting if you start flipping out about guys being attracted to females being a secret sign of pederasty

>> No.17579589

>>17579554
Ah, yes. The accusation of “projection”, the last refuge of the fleeing deviant. I am an anatomist in the classic sense. I’m merely here to document all of society’s ills. If you whither under my penetrating gaze, so be it.

>> No.17579610

>>17579497
This is true for the majority, there are some women that do genuinely enjoy it, I matched with one on hinge who spoke on Eurpides' Trojan Trilogy, but she wasn't that physically attractive and was kind of arrogant. In fact, I think she might be the perfect match for some people in this thread ! birds of a feather and all that.

>> No.17579611

>>17578866
whores want orbiters. jsut be yourself and a whore will select you so that you can entertain for free, then become a janitor since you do like to do it for free

>> No.17579624

>>17579589
It's projection because only someone with secret...tendencies would start thinking about little boys when looking at a sexualized adult female. You brought them up out of nowhere in a situation that has nothing to do with them, ie. you projected.

>> No.17579650

>>17579202
time for your meds

>> No.17579681

>>17579624
By that definition any postulation is a projection. Like most perverts you have a very weak mind.

>> No.17579709

>>17579188
>>tfw have a female friend who studies literature at the most prestigious university in the country
If the university was actually prestigious they wouldn't let women in desu.

>> No.17579711

>>17579681
>any postulation is projection
No the postulation has to be related to the subject. What relation is there between these women and little boys in your mind?

>> No.17579766

>>17579448
>Advertising has made ones personal aesthetic (clothing and media choice) synonymous with personality
>be hot and rich, and cynically dress like them
It's rather beautiful. The market targets every demographic with its own ready-made attitudes and tastes. People readily absorb these suggestions because, while they are certainly shallow and ephemeral, they at least provide some continuity to an otherwise disjointed and meaningless personality.
The desires that art hoes attempt to satisfy by decorating themselves with cheap aesthetics are so deep that no amount of decoration or make-believe will ever fulfill them, much in the same way that OP's desires will never be satisfied by the pursuit of cheap vibey sex. The hollow grasp for products to make themselves complete, but they are always in need of more. Wanting is never enough. They must be wanted. By emulating the products which bring them comfort, they themselves turn into a product, and thus OP's consumption of them is just as cheap as their consumption of aesthetics, because the art hoe herself is an aesthetic, that is, a product, a nonperson.

>> No.17579808

>>17579006
Live in a liberal city with a uni

>> No.17579830

>>17579766
>>17579497
Women become products through their consumption. Most of them, like most products, are not worth consuming

>> No.17579867

>>17579263
Belgium, I study in Leuven (biggest student city and biggest uni of the country)
at least I can't find any

>> No.17579880

>>17579867
Go to Brussels.

>> No.17579892

>>17579880
but that's a shithole

>> No.17579899

>>17579867
Lol the deficit of art hoes in your country is probably a good thing. Maybe your country isn't completely demoralized and media-pilled

>> No.17579914

>>17579867
That’s surprising to me. I’ve never been to Europe but I’ve seen art hoes all over North America, South America and Asia.

>> No.17579924

>>17579899
the americanization is unfortunately unstoppable at this point

>> No.17579930

>>17579084
Is every humanities woman an art ho or is every art ho a humanities woman? I could never draw the distinction.

>> No.17579941

>>17579930
I'm in humanities. Unfortunately they're all basic lefties without an original thought in their brains
depressing. At least an arthoe is pretending not to be retarded.

>> No.17579946

>>17579941
I see, so it's an aesthetic then.

>> No.17579952

>>17579946
I think most of them are in humanities though. Probably anthropology.
Otherwise literature studies or languages or some shit

>> No.17579965

>>17578923
Cringe. Women like all authors, but I find they like some more than others across the board. These include
>Dickinson
>Wilde
>Mary Shelley
>Shakespeare (specifically Macbeth)
>George Eliot
>Fitzgerald
>David Foster Wallace (though I've not yet met one whose read infinite Jest)

The list could go on. You just have to be well read enough to talk to women about any book they author they're able to discuss. Then, when you DO start talking, don't come across as some elitist price, or if you do, make a joke out of it. Show you're self aware in your pretentiousness. I've dated tons of readers. It's not that hard.

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>>17579952
>Probably anthropology.
Always easy entry level baby shit where the most you have to do is listen to your professor's propaganda and pretend you're expressing original insights.
>Yes I have a Master's in Philosophy's... of International Relations

>> No.17579993

>>17579983
anthropology is a joke now. Unfortunate cause the discipline itself is actually fairly interesting.

>> No.17580060

Art hoes are not impressed by anything stable. They are impressed by the image of impressiveness, which they procedurally assimilate from other shallow people (especially women) and project onto men. They don't have deep enough knowledge of anything to actually judge whether a man is impressive. In fact, the more knowledge they gain of a thing, the more they will be disgusted by their peers and equals in that thing (for not being better than them at it), and the more cynical and vicious they will come about seeking the "top" men in the thing - in a way that is completely blind to the spiritual content of the thing itself, so they're much more likely to go for the "most famous" or "most powerful" guy than the most dedicated or passionate.

Art hoes are not women you should be trying to fuck unless you can fuck a dozen of them easily while never caring about the shit they pretend to care about. They are not FOR men like you, they are not real women, they are not catches or prizes. They are disposable pocket pussies for college chads of various types: rich guys who exude upper class poise and fuck thots as a matter of course, guys they meet at parties who seem edgy and extraordinary (in a way that any non-thot would immediately know is shallow and superficial), like the guy who cocaine babbles about Zizek and Marxism but actually doesn't know anything about either. There is a whole college ecosystem of rich and rich-adjacent people who exist to dress nicely, go to parties, and pretend to like Zizek, and a certain subset of this ecosystem has disappointing sex with art hoes every month and discards them the same way that you occasionally get fast food and shit it out the next day.

However enviable that lifestyle may be (it isn't), you should definitely not fuck one of these women, and you should DEFINITELY not pine after one. They are giving their battered pussies away for free to these Zizek homos. They are surrounded by rich airhead guys who have learned how to broadcast "I am wealthy" with their attire and body language since attending their $20,000 a year elementary school. You really want to try to impress them by being the stable boy who wins the princess' heart? Why? What's your reward? You gonna smooch them on the pussy hole they gave away for free to ten guys with trust funds and 110 IQs? You gonna watch them put on their fake eyelashes and thigh highs in the morning, the same ones they wore on that weekend when they fucked 4 different guys over tinder and laughed about it with their legally retarded girlfriends? That's going to be your gf? Loose asshole thot with twitter account? Whose tinder profile says "hegel. debord. anthro girl." when she's never read Hegel or Debord and she has been saying she "might go for a PhD in anthropology" for the entire 2 years since she graduated her BA, and she has never even looked into how to apply to a PhD program and applications season for this year is already closing too? They're all the same. Avoid.

>> No.17580067

>>17579993
Women are ruining sociology and geography too. They've ruined every major really. Imagine how good university could be if it were gender segregated. Not meming, please actually imagine it.

>> No.17580077

>>17580067
I unironically agree

>> No.17580093

>>17579766
Sure thing bud but a lot of them also have normal personalities and shit, and just dabble in art hoe attitudes and clothing. I'm trying to explain how to land some pussy not make a debordian social criticism. Sex is right up there with car choice in how much advertising affects peoples approach

>> No.17580117

>>17580093
>a lot of them also have normal personalities and shit
By normal personality, for a woman, do you mean that they're on SSRIs and have no ambition, no career prospects, no hobbies, and think they're going to be 21 years old and intrinsically valuable forever, despite visibly aging? Then I agree, a lot of art hoes have "personalities."

To keep up the car analogy, dating a girl like this is like buying a 5 year old used car for full sticker price. Not only are you getting ripped off, it's going to die soon and possibly take you with it.

>> No.17580155

>>17579983
Off topic question, but is that your gf? She's almost the exact doppelganger of my fiancée; even her rose ring is on the same side. The only difference is the mouth.

>> No.17580169

>>17580155
>Off topic question, but is that your gf?
If my gf looked like that I wouldn't post her here.

>> No.17580195

>>17578988
>If you're ugly, no.
>If you're good-looking, yes
*If they think

>> No.17580210

>>17580169
I got that pic off an escort ad site

>> No.17580306

>>17579328
women hate transgression: it is a moral no no - only the approved wokism for them

>> No.17580336

>>17580060
Get laid incel

>> No.17580358

>>17580117
You probably get this a lot, but your idea of women is not grounded in reality. Theres plenty of down to earth regular chicks with none of the issues you outlined.
Some dudes are like bitch seeking missiles, I have no idea why but every chick they date is BPD. You may be one of those dudes, or you spend too much time on the internet, or you live in some sort of fucked up micro culture. No clue really, but you're way off.
Granted this is one anecdote vs another, but my anecdote directly contradicts yours so we are back to zero.

>> No.17580365

>>17580117
Also while I'd never pay sticker price for a five year old used car, plenty of five year old used cars can last for another decade- especially cars built in the 2010s.

>> No.17580401

>>17580365
I guess the question is whether you want to pay full sticker for a car that can "last" another ten years. The point is that art hoes are volatile, fast-degrading goods, already in the bargain bin, and yet they charge luxury good prices. They are a bad trade. You should only take them if you can get them for free, like the many men who use and discard them do.

>> No.17580411

>>17580401
Right but what I'm saying is the art hoe aesthetic is already used extensively by chicks of genuine quality.
You may have been right in like 2008 when the hipster thing still had a fresh and edgy posture, but at this point you can get the art hoe look entirely from clothes purchased at target. It's a normie look.

>> No.17580421

>>17580411
I agree, the behavior I described has become "normal." That's the real tragedy.

>> No.17580433

>>17580421
Dont be obtuse.

>> No.17580460

>>17579930
The latter, however many poor anons such as this one>>17579941 have universities where barely an individual isn't a literal far-left npc.

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>>17578866
This is a man right? How will women ever be able to compete with man on being a woman ? Man are better at being a woman than actual woman.
What a world. WOMEN ON SUICIDE WATCH.
How are they reacting to their replacement ?

>> No.17580501

>>17579188
pointing at a particular authour and saying "why haven't you read him xd" is pretty midwit because you have some assumption that big brains read everything rather than read a handful of the right things, closely

>> No.17580508

>>17580060
>Art hoes are not women you should be trying to fuck unless you can fuck a dozen of them easily while never caring about the shit they pretend to care about. They are not FOR men like you, they are not real women, they are not catches or prizes. They are disposable pocket pussies for college chads of various types: rich guys who exude upper class poise and fuck thots as a matter of course, guys they meet at parties who seem edgy and extraordinary (in a way that any non-thot would immediately know is shallow and superficial), like the guy who cocaine babbles about Zizek and Marxism but actually doesn't know anything about either. There is a whole college ecosystem of rich and rich-adjacent people who exist to dress nicely, go to parties, and pretend to like Zizek, and a certain subset of this ecosystem has disappointing sex with art hoes every month and discards them the same way that you occasionally get fast food and shit it out the next day.

Everything here OP, you should be focused on excelling in your field and becoming distinguished. A lot of these art hoes are concubines not wife material. Good for sex and a break but not to be focussed on. If you can get them in high quantities go for it, lift, keep reading, etc, and if you're at university your iq is likely higher than 105 or usually average 110 its not hard for you to achieve.

>> No.17580515

I tried talking to a lefty girl about Zizek and Baudrillard and she wasn't into it.

>> No.17580534

>>17580358
I'm the first poster you responded to, not the used-car guy. My idea about women being products was specifically about art hoes. I have a gf who isn't retarded

>> No.17580535

>>17580475
why do you faggots want every woman to be secretly a man so badly. that's shoeonhead, she's a woman.

>> No.17580540

>>17580060
I'm a Zizek guy, and it hasn't worked for me lol

>> No.17580557

>>17580475
That's pretty anti femoid, so it's based, but it's also pro tans, so it's cringe. But it's still anti femoid, so it's based. But...

>> No.17580582

>>17580534
ah cool.
OK well you see that I have a clarification that the art ho look is so normie as to be adopted by genuinely normal chicks.
There's a /lit/ archetype of art hoes as social scene climbers who pursue guys at the top of various cosmopolitan intellectual hierarchies.
Never seen this. Maybe they're more prevalent in giant tentpole cities like NYC or London.

>> No.17580589

>>17580557
This is the roastie-tranny paradox: roasties hate trannies, and trannies hate roasties, but neither one is more palatable as a result. But it's only a pseudo-paradox. The solution is to expand your hatred until you have enough hate for both of them equally.

Remember, some infinities are bigger than others. If you have infinite hatred, you have enough hate for infinite hatred of more than one thing, even if those things also hate eachother.

>>17580582
Tourist.

>> No.17580731

>>17580589
>roasties hate trannies, and trannies hate roasties
Well yes. All trannies are incels.

>> No.17580735

>>17580535
>>17580557
I belive its a win win situation: embois will compete with women and end up making women more womanly and the faggot genes will not reproduce.
So we all win.

>> No.17580808

>>17578866
High competency in a chosen field is a very general sign for sociosexual interest. /lit/ background just allows you to interrogate a /lit/hoe more efficiency (really ought to be able to ‘cold read’ regardless)

>>17580060
This

>> No.17580849

>>17580589
bruh, I've been here forever.

>> No.17581474

>>17580060
muy basado señor anón

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>>17578866
Enjoy yourself when young but don't get an STD or one of these psychos pregnant (if not only because they will probably euthenise the child in the womb as an unwitting blood libation to Molech).
Indeed, 'Art hoes' are by their nature transgressive. This is simultaneously why they are 'not like other girls' whilst also being exactly like all the other girls.
For long term happiness and breeding you should want to go for 'tradcon' girls.

>> No.17581953

>>17579219
kek
debord would have hated it and you can make Obama jealous

>> No.17581963

>>17581618
I agree, me being a posser artfag in my teens I desired and dated artwhores most of my life. Last one was when I was 26, lasted a year, after that stopped dating them and went for regular girls just with the only requirement that they had a real job and a degree in whatever except from the liberal arts faculty, regular job because leeches are always super entitled and will try to tie you down and have no personality of their own, and the degree just for the sake of them being educated and on the same socioeconomical class reality as mine (middle).

>> No.17581989

>>17579301
the synthesis of both sexe is the true patrician choice, the love of big tits and wide hips come from a purely uneducated fear of the lack of ressources, you are like a farmer choosing the biggest cow because you think it will make the best milk while what matters is how you can lick the cow's cunt while thinking about death

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>>17581963
Class wise it can be easier to select downwards as women are hypergamous and therefore disloyal if they have too many means.

>> No.17582137

>>17579357
While you are true about the lit part you're wrong about the taking away of agency part. Women don't have agency

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>>17579078
>reading bell hooks
I don't need a arthoe gf that much.

>> No.17582678

>>17580060
I burned every book written by a female author that I own. Your post; the flame's exegesis.

>> No.17582688

>>17578866
The Bible and a STEM textbook.

>> No.17582699

You people baffle me, why would you go out of your way to do something as stupid and idiotic like impressing a dumb broad?

>> No.17582710

>>17578866
It's critical to not try and impress the art ho. Trying will ruin the attempt.

>> No.17582713

>>17579188
I had a brief conversation about Shakespeare with an old classmate at a 5th anniversary and she pissed me the fuck off. I'm still seething because she dismissed him and accused his works of being rip-offs and derivative in nature, and I attempt to have this discussion again in 3 years.

>> No.17582770

>>17579456
He's a shit posting retard

>> No.17582831

Art hoes are the Prostitute type described by Weininger, they are the antithesis to anything that is motherly in a female. They are an antilife force and they want to be destroyed and erased through their promiscuous sexuality. You should be aware of that if you decide to fuck one, or God forbid fall in love with one. They are the hetaera type, they are good at judging what a man finds interesting and they apply the necessary mask. They're basically cosplaying as the thing they sense in your desires. Also consider the fact that you would see a guy with the same level of /lit/art interests as a shallow pseud, but it takes very little for men too see women as rather interesting /deep since they're instinctively aware that women are not capable of any greatness, so any sign of intellectuality is automatically rated higher due to the fact that she has a hole between her legs. Women with intellectual interests, and I mean real interests, are rare, usually masculine, and there is something wrong with their sexuality.

>> No.17582847

>>17578866

What is wrong with that person's nose?

>> No.17582865

>>17582831
prostitution is peak eroticism, read Bataille

>> No.17582882
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>>17579448
this. guys with haircuts like pic related get all the art hoe poontang.

>> No.17582894

>>17582847
>focusing on her nose
>not her legs
DUDE

>> No.17582899

>>17580060
are women capable of recognizing virtue? it seems that the more freedom women have recieved the less proximally aligned to virtuous behaviour they become... Which begs the question of what happens to our age if virtuous behaviour goes unrewarded

>> No.17582907

>>17578866
Just read any type of book and lift weights. That’s literally it

>> No.17582915

>>17582865
Of course it is, no one denies that. But recognizing that it is a degenerate and opposed and avoiding is the hard thing. Well, if you can get pussy that is, if you can't its pretty easy.

>> No.17582923

>>17582894

The point stands.
That person of indeterminable biologival gender's nose doesn't seem to reflect light the way skin does.

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>>17579076
>I had a discussion about Rilke with a girl on Tinder.

>> No.17582950

>>17582923
>That person of indeterminable biologival gender's nose doesn't seem to reflect light the way skin does.
Is there a dick in your mouth, why type like a faggot?

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>>17578923
>. I have no clue what they actually read
shit like pic related

>> No.17582981

>>17582915
degenerate, opposed to life*
I'm retarded

>> No.17582990

why are they called arthoes? I know many female artists who don't appeal to this aesthetic

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>>17582990
>Female artists

>> No.17583037

>>17579076
basque pseud core

>> No.17583790

>>17582008
Depends on their personality, a social climber will use you as a stepping stone and cast you aside as soon as someone a penny richer than you shows her some attention.