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What are some other books that will help me come to terms with myself as a sinner?

>> No.17541553

Start with the Confessions of Augustine, move onto the Imitation of Christ. Careful though, the latter’s scrupulously-inducing.

>> No.17541563

>>17541553
Not OP, but I tried reading Confessions and couldn't stand his professing for the love of God in every. single. fucking. paragraph.
Too bad because the philosophy parts seemed like they have a lot to give to the reader. But holy shit the man was sperging out about God

>> No.17541568

>>17541563
It’s literally God he’s talking about.

>> No.17541860

>>17541563

God is good.

>> No.17541950

Respectable Sins by Jerry Bridges

>> No.17543154

unironically the Bible, figure you are already reading or have read it, but yeah never can read enough. Some of the epistles especially.

>> No.17543158

>>17541535
Beowulf.

>> No.17543164

>>17541563
>Not OP, but I tried reading Confessions and couldn't stand his professing for the love of God in every. single. fucking. paragraph.
Not sincere enough, too modern and faggoty in your hypocritical sarcasm and criticism.

This>>17541568 >>17541860

Do you expect to say "appreciate it God, you've helped me a lot!"?

>> No.17543607

>>17541563
Being Christian is like being in an abusive relationship so they have to keep reminding themselves as much as everyone else how much they love their abuser and how he's only angry and punishes you if you deserve it. He's the only chance you have to be happy and you wouldn't want to disappoint him by not loving him enough so they manically repeat every day that they love him. And then get upset at other religions for doing the exact same thing. All of this is so tiresome and pathetic

>> No.17543676
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>>17541535
"The Evil of Evils" by Jeremiah Burroughs.
"The Mischief of Sin" by Thomas Watson

>> No.17543684

>>17541535
12 rules for lifetime with slavs

>> No.17543743

>>17543607
why do people who don't read post here?

>> No.17545139

>>17541535
If you're of proto-indo European descent, then accept yourself as the beast and move on. Otherwise take advice from other people ITT.

>> No.17545152

>>17541535
The Epic of Gilgamesh

>> No.17545421

>>17541563
>holy sh*t
>f*cking
I tried reading your post and couldn't stand the disrespectful and vulgar language. What sort of term are we looking at? Holy, which is good, and sh*t which is bad. Why fuse the two together like that, is it to stamp your foot in spiteful protest against your God, who is all loving and infinitely good? It is no surprise someone who says things like this recoils when they come face to face with a man who professes love for God, instead of disrespect in every sentence.

>>17543607
>edgy simile that proves you do not understand what it is you're criticizing
t. every fedora tier atheist
That belongs on reddit I'm sure you'd get plenty of support from the rootless urban parasites who dwell there.

>> No.17545733

>>17545152
They don't have a concept of sin. For them to have a good live in afterlife is to serve the gods properly while you are living

>> No.17545851

>>17545421
Do not bother with your rebukes of these fools, they don't have the mental capacities to understand them anyhow.

>> No.17546662

>>17543743
Because I can
>>17545421
Prove me wrong then, prove God's existence

>> No.17547035
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>>17546662
>prove me wrong
You are wrong because the relationship is not one of abuse on the part of God. The abuse comes from us, because we are given the opportunity to do either good or evil, the former is choosing God and the latter choosing our own (fallen) will. It is quite clear that we have vicious desires and we truly ought to avoid them for reasons separate from revelation. (Proof: the Greeks.) If we do the will of God we end up in the best possible state and we fulfill the purpose of our creation. You do not like the will of God, same as all badly oriented beings. Bad hates good. A better simile would be that of a drug addict and a loving family that offers their hand in assistance. Christians are not upset at other religions generally, they just rightfully state that they are not the fullness of truth. So much for your extremely poorly constructed and sourced from ignorance simile.

>prove God's existence
Why would you ask me when you have access to people like 5000x smarter than me who make a case 5000x better than mine? That leads me to question your motives. Ultimately I believe it is an individual relationship you have to progress into in order to remove scrupulous doubt as opposed to a mathematical proof, but if you read the book in pic related it seems like more than enough proof to begin that journey. Inb4 "NO YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT HERE".

>> No.17547660

>>17546662
>/his/ tourist confesses to being a midwit
do you come here to larp or something? face the facts buddy, /lit/ is a higher IQ board and is more religious

>> No.17548401

>>17547035
>more schizobabble
Lol
>>17547660
I've been here long enough to know that that's only half true, definitely more religious but that inherently makes this board lower iq by default. Goodbye, I'm done with this thread now.

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>>17541535
I tend to think that it is more important to hear confessions from saints than to hear any number of imbeciles go on about the wrongness of such and such. The reason is that everyone makes being a Christian appear easy when they want you to be impressed with them, but if you try, you discover that it is hard. This mismatch is disappointing.

So please read the Desert Fathers; a book of self-admitted alcoholics and fornicators, and their personal struggle to be saints. These men don't pull any punches about themselves, so they are faithful guides and it is a pleasure to read their stories.

>> No.17548726

I tried reading The Confessions but I was grossed out and disappointed in how fucking horny Augustine was. I can’t relate to, and I won’t listen to some prostitute-fucking nigger so I dropped that book and never looked back.

>> No.17548741

This thread reads like some absurdist comedy performance.

>> No.17548746

>>17548554
>So please read the Desert Fathers; a book of self-admitted alcoholics and fornicators
Why the fucking nigger would I ever listen to these absolute degenerates about anything? I’m neither an alcoholic nor a fornicator. Saints my asshole.

>> No.17549157

>>17548401
concession accepted

>> No.17550094

>>17541535
Feel free to argue with me on this point, but I think the definition of sin is anything that separates a human being from God. It is my belief that there is nothing that could possibly seperate us from God. There is no difference between the created and the creator. The only thing that separates us from God is our belief in separation.

>> No.17550127

>>17550094
I would say the Cartesian idea of humanity being an imperfect substance with the infinite will to either pursue reason or fall into confusion and disarray, supports this idea. Although psychopaths kind of throw a wrench in that, as they are perfectly fine with rationalizing evil.

>> No.17551484

>>17541563
>But holy shit the man was sperging out about God
It's a confession, retard.
Read City of God if you don't like the confession part.

>> No.17552614

>>17548401
>Give me proof
>Proof Given
>"more schizobabble" proof disregarded

Feast your eyes everyone. This man is not honestly seeking truth, this is someone who has his mind made up and serves only himself.

>> No.17552635

>>17550094
And you got this idea from?

>>17550127
I don't think what you said, about will played out to its logical infinite conclusion, supports the idea that we do not separate ourselves from God. Hell is the infinite logical conclusion of sinful will, and God is not in hell, therefore we are separate. Psychopaths do not throw a wrench into this because they reason incorrectly. Any old reason won't do, it has to be the right reason.