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[Anonymous No.17480014]

>tfw you’ve spent too much time thinking and pondering morals that you unironically can’t tell right from wrong anymore
Does this ever happen to you

[Anonymous No.17480030]

just start from the basics.
breathing is right because it provides life. life is right, because it provides many exciting and enjoyable opportunities. once that's settled everything else becomes easier to judge.

[Anonymous No.17480040]

>>17480030
>believing life is better than death
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.17480052]

>>17480040
dude wtf

[Anonymous No.17480056]

>>17480030
This>>17480040
i actually have no moral ground to stand on anymore. Literally don’t know what is right and what is wrong at all. I don’t do illegal things because don’t want to go to jail, but have no clue if it is wrong to kill someone or not. I don’t understand right from wrong and can’t justify one reason to do anything.

[Anonymous No.17480058]

>>17480040
bad anon. you've been fooled by pessimists. never trust someone that suggests life is inherently bad when they themselves choose to live it.

[Anonymous No.17480073]

>>17480052
Normalfaggot response.
>>17480058
When we die we are finally freed from the endless prison that is life. Life may not be inherently bad, but it is also not inherently good.
>>17480056
You should delve into metaphysics, anon. All justifications of right and wrong, and the justification of that justification, stem from metaphysics. Until that is not settled, you will not have a firm moral system.

[Anonymous No.17480082]

>>17480058
Nobody has ever made a good argument for life being good or bad, we have no idea which it is.

[Anonymous No.17480088]

>>17480073
Where do I start with metaphysics? It sounds complicated and I’m a total brainlet.

[Anonymous No.17480099]

>>17480014
Yeah. Ultimately it seems like to have any moral system at all, you just have to come up with a starting point ex nihilo, which cannot itself be based upon or justified by anything else. Life, I guess, could be such a point.
I really want to be wrong though.

[Anonymous No.17480102]

>>17480088
Start with Plato, he is also relevant to your moral concerns. Start with his Five Dialogues (short and easy to read but also very engaging), then read a little about Aristotle and start with Modern philosophy (Descartes, Hume, Kant, etc.)

[Anonymous No.17480105]

>>17480073
life isn't an endless prison. until evidence proves otherwise, death is more of an endless prison since it traps you out of life, yet life is very easy to escape from into death.
>Life may not be inherently bad, but it is also not inherently good.
thankfully we have agency to allow us to create a good life for ourselves.

[Anonymous No.17480195]

>>17480105
>thankfully we have agency to allow us to create a good life for ourselves.
Not everyone. Only if you were lucky enough to be born capable of this. Some people are born with defects. Some die before they can do anything.

[Anonymous No.17480200]

>>17480099
This is why I’ve been trying to brainwash myself into Christianity. I’ve been on the verge of insanity because I can’t tell right from wrong anymore, it’s impossible without a starting point. Survival seems like it but if survival is right and extinction is wrong, shouldn’t all people who are “wrong”(or weak/inferior) end their lives? I don’t think I’m strong enough to do that, and I’m certainly not one of the superior ones either.

[Anonymous No.17480204]

nietzsche
read

[Anonymous No.17480206]

No because I'm not a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.17480240]

>>17480014
congratz man you are now "Beyond Good and Evil" XD

[Anonymous No.17480248]

>>17480240
I haven’t actually read nietzsche does he explain this in that book? Fuck I wish I could escape my lack of morals

[Anonymous No.17480269]

>>17480248
This is literally what his book explains; how this develops, both historically and personally, and also how one might overcome it. Even if you don't wind up subscribing to his ideas, lots of other people who have built off of,or referred to Nietzsche might have the answers you're looking for instead.

[Anonymous No.17480284]

>>17480269
Thanks anon I’ll try. Going through life with these raging questions is so tiring

[Anonymous No.17480289]

>>17480014
No because I have my core

[Anonymous No.17480292]

>>17480269
philosophy is for low test faggots just like anime. at least try to get laid for once.

[Anonymous No.17480297]

>>17480284
You either go through life with raging questions, or live an unexamined life determined for you by others.

[Anonymous No.17480314]

>>17480292
>t. npc

[Anonymous No.17480322]

>>17480030
How do you know that life is right

[Anonymous No.17480326]

>>17480284
it should be tiring, in my opinion
I would also suggest that you consider reading the Myth of Sissyphus by Albert Camus as a jumping off point for other solutions-- he's been highly examined as well, and he outlines few directions that you can take you life in if you start to feel completely listless
>>17480292
I'm so high test that I'm balding; also, you are literally LITERALLY on an anime discussion website

[Anonymous No.17480340]

>Boss caught me on /lit/ at work again. He has now upped to monitoring my screen the full 7 hours I am there. He requested virtual access to my machine. Now that he has it, every so often when I am in the middle of work-- or worse, when I have stood up to go to the bathroom or to stretch my legs, I come back to find a new /handsome men/ thread opened on my desktop for the entire office to see. He knows I cannot ‘x’ these out, not with my union status still pending thanks to the virus (if I so much as acknowledge/interact with NSFW content this can be used against me and I can be terminated). Sometimes he visits my workstation at the exact moment I return just to ask me why I’m sweating and if I need the fans on in winter or to comment on how I’m one ‘naturally sweaty dude’. He says a lot of coded language about ‘real red men’ and ‘sissy blue boys’; he claims Cherokee blood so it doesn’t raise any cocerns with our Human Resources colleagues. He only started claiming his ancestry after he found me browsing on the cameras that first day. He’s made it known, in not so many words, that he doesn’t like blue boards and blue boarders. Sometimes he hides behind the formica plant to watch my reaction. My only solace, my phone, still has to connect to the office network. I’m posting from it now. Last week he referred to me as 'a blue meanie' because he thought I was a /mu/ poster; the cameras arent high enough resolution for him to make out the board letters. But now that he knows it is /lit/, he has started to call me Beauregarde. He says he's going to think of something that sounds more 'pet' soon. All I know is that he has power over me.

[Anonymous No.17480359]

virgin thread detected

[Anonymous No.17480368]

>>17480359
>virgin thread detected

[Anonymous No.17480373]

>>17480195
even with defects there are things they can do to give themselves enjoyment.

[Anonymous No.17480384]

>>17480373
Not everyone. Some people are born without a chance of doing anything for themselves. Is a terminally ill baby capable of making his life better?

[Anonymous No.17480443]

>>17480384
i believe that your point is that people/living organisms can't always be successful especially when they have very little agency, which is fair, but whos the judge of what's a good life itself the organism itself?

[Anonymous No.17480456]

The fact that anti-natalists haven't killed themselves yet is proof of the faiblesse of their ideology.

[Anonymous No.17481040]

>>17480014
Nah

[Anonymous No.17481049]

>>17480030
These are the kinds of people I share a board with.