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best books about the history of science?

>> No.17460869

>>17460844
Hiding under microscopes
Feel my muscles hug my bones
This body won't hold my soul
Nobody will touch my soul
Whenever I feel alone
I let my skin touch your clothes
Far away you feel so close
Holding onto letting go
Hiding under microscopes
Feel my muscles hug my bones
This body won't hold my soul
Nobody will touch my soul
Whenever I feel alone
I let my skin touch your clothes
Far away you feel so close
Holding onto letting go

>> No.17460876

>>17460844
Science is the eradication of history

>> No.17460882

>>17460869
>>17460876
its serious

>> No.17460883

The story of science (newton at the center)

>> No.17460887

big science: science and you

>> No.17460922

>>17460883
>>17460887
DOESNT EXIST

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>>17460922

>> No.17461251

bump

>> No.17461545
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>> No.17461555

>>17460844
revolt against the modern world

>> No.17461570

>>17460844
Short istory of nearly evryting mon

>> No.17461586

>>17460844
The Bible

>> No.17461590

>>17460844
Fuck science.

>> No.17461605

Why does /lit/ hate science so much?

>> No.17461608

>>17461605
What is the goal of modern science?

>> No.17461615

>>17461605
They hate reddit's worship of "science" and have developed a pavlovian response to the word.
Also all the fiction and philosophy we read

>> No.17461625

>>17461605
because the STEM subjects are the hardest and people that are bad them at them cope instead of just facing the reality

>> No.17461654

>>17461625
Sounds like a cope, kek

>> No.17461717

>>17461608
To better our understanding of the world, ourselves and our ability to manage and manipulate our environment.

>> No.17461739

>>17461717
so do scientist realize that everything they do makes the masses dumber and that no one is any closer to real knowledge aka metaphysics?

>> No.17461768

>>17461739
>so do scientist realize that everything they do makes the masses dumber
Sounds like a you-problem

>> No.17461774
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17461774

>>17460876
>SCIENCE BAAAAD
>2000 YEAR OLD JEWISH FAIRY TALES GOOOOD

>> No.17461781

i'd expect neo-luddites to meet in the woods or something yet they congregate on the internet using computers, it's bizarre

>> No.17461796

>>17461739
>so do scientist realize that everything they do makes the masses dumber
How?
Also, science, by definition isn't concerned with metaphysics or anything philosophical. Just the raw material world.

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17461804

>>17460844
This is a history of a type of science

>> No.17461814

>>17460844
Not about science in general but i liked:
Infinitesimal: How a Dangerous Mathematical Theory Shaped the Modern World

>> No.17461838

>>17461796
>How?
recent technology has shortened attention spans and encourage people to "look up information instead of learn it.

>> No.17461848

>>17461838
>"look up information instead of learn it."
whats the difference if you are not gonna use it in a job tho?

>> No.17461854

>>17461804
i suppose quackery is a science of sorts

>> No.17461858

>>17461838
It’s also radically raised lifespans and quality of life. You soft internet tard wouldnt last a second on a farm without fancy science to help you. You couldnt even grow a tomato without pesticides and fertilizers

>> No.17461861

>>17461848
outside of being wrought with ambiguity of if random searches of google or Wikipedia give you accurate information or not, it's the difference of having a sharp mind vs a mush mind.

>> No.17461866

>>17461854
> quackery
What about composting, crop rotation and diversity, and natural pest control without artificial additives constitutes quakery? We, as a society, need to adopt most of what organic agricultural science has to offer if we want to still have topsoil in 2060

>> No.17461867

>>17461858
>You soft internet tard wouldnt last a second on a farm without fancy science to help you
I think you gave him reason tho, thanks to science he is a soft internet tard.

>> No.17461881

>>17461858
>It’s also radically raised lifespans and quality of life.
everyone is more miserable now than they were 50 years ago. Many surveys and stats prove this. Rise in suicide, drug-addiction and prescription pills demonstrates this. Quality of life has been going down while science has been going up.

This sort of statement "quality" of life is outside the scope of STEMfaggots to truly answer. They need a philosophy chad to deduce what a quality life actually is.

>> No.17461896

>>17461867
>>17461881
whatever man just fucking chill and garden and read about chemistry, it’s fun

>> No.17461913

>>17461881
This post is sopping with insecurity.

>> No.17461917

>>17461913
I wouldn't disagree, although it doesn't make it any less true.

>> No.17461919

>>17461896
Thanks but I prefer physics.

>> No.17461951

>>17461881
>Rise in suicide, drug-addiction and prescription pills demonstrates this.
"Rise" itself as a metric is fairly meaningless considering the fact that the world population has more than doubled since your arbitrary time of 50 years ago. Yeah, no shit the numbers of suicides are going up. Deduce some common sense, philosophy chad.

>> No.17461957

>>17461951
it's going up by percentage.

>> No.17461988

>>17461957
That's not what that poster originally said, and just "by percentage" is meaningless too. Percentage of what? Where? Take a statistics class.

>> No.17462601

>>17461605
Science worship is cringe and bluepilled, I'm a STEMlord and even I can't stand muh scientist rule by experts
2020 was the political weaponization of "science" by the security state against the layman in a way never dreamed of by certain 20th century nation states

>> No.17462633

>>17461838

> Recent technology has shortened attention spans and encourage people to "look up information instead of learn it

It's a massive improvement from what television did.

>> No.17462691

>>17461774
this but unironically

>> No.17462719

Become scholastic-pilled
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~aversa/scholastic/
http://morec.com/natural.htm

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Best books on sterilizing myself so I can change the weather and save the planet? I believe the science. God doesn't real.

>> No.17462990

>>17461774
Centralized, monopolized,

>> No.17463141

I like mathematics, especially statistics

>> No.17463157

>>17461717
So how come it failed at all of those?

>> No.17463161

>>17461605
because most of /lit/ is actually rather stupid

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>>17460844
The Beginning of Western Science by David Lindberg is pretty good, as.is Peter Galison's Einstein's Clocks, Poincaré's Maps. Against Method by Feyeband is pretty much a case study of how Galileo's experiment wasn't really all that scientific in nature since he really didn't follow the scientific method meanwhile the Church had wrong beliefs about the orbit of the planets and the like, but were more scientific but still relevant. Same with Quantum Philosophy by Omnès.


>>17462719
That's not bad either

>> No.17463324

>>17461951
>>17461957
>>17461988
Are there some good books on this topic? Because when it comes down to statistics, there should be a definite answer on what the statistics actually indicate. If those can be trusted or whether overall quality of life can even be measured by statistics remains to be seen, but it would be good to have something to reference

>> No.17463334

>>17461605
mostly used to promote shitty ideologues or corporations.

>> No.17463617

>>17461605
It’s a response to the way science is unquestioningly believed even to the point of political weaponisation. I’ve not seen a single COVID case in my life despite living in the UK, the “hardest hit country in Europe”, and not following the lockdown rules from day one. What I have seen are businesses collapsing and everyone walking around with nappies on their faces like a massive unidentifiable slave-mob. The only known COVID case in my family is a family friend, 90 years old. The hospital told us he died of “heart problems” but wrote COVID on his death certificate anyway, because apparently the “heart problems were brought on by COVID.” It is theoretically possible that this whole thing is a massive hoax and I would be none the wiser. But oh because science says so I must believe it, else I’m a science denier! The “experts” said at the start we’d have two weeks lockdown to “flatten the curve” but they keep changing it. It seems like science isn’t this incontrovertible, steady, immovable thing of truth, but rather a tool for political justification.

>> No.17464025

>>17461774
go back to /qa/, midwit.

>> No.17464032

>>17461951
>yeah all these people brought into this world are overwhelmingly unhappy, I'm sure you can narrow this down to just too many people!!!!
sorry but I don't follow your logic.

>> No.17465000

>>17463175
thanks

>> No.17465171

>>17460844
Those by
Bachelard
Koyré
Canguilhem
Foucault
Kuhn
Feyerabend

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>>17460844
Here's an unironic answer OP.

>> No.17465243

>>17461605
Because men drunk with intuition and religion lack the courage to be humbled by nature.

>> No.17466197

>>17461774
that retarded binarism

>> No.17466250

>>17465243
science's whole schtick is the rape and destruction of nature for human pleasure.

>> No.17466269

>>17466250
>implying science isn't a natural process
>implying rape and desctruction aren't literally what nature runs on

>> No.17466299

>>17461605
Because science is ruining the world. Especially of you take the average scientist's shoddy appeal that everything new is from science, taking credit away from infrastructural and administrative advances that have little to do with scientific methods.
>heightened energy consumption
>Peak oil, climate change
>Nuclear weapons
>Mass pollution
>Plastics
>Nonstick chemicals amassing in human blood
>Obesity epidemic from industrialized food
>Increase in carcinogens
>Release of smartphones and tech that are lowering IQ
>Epidemic of worsening eyesight from screens
>Global demographic crises from mass agriculture techniques, etc. and ensuing population explosion
For every problem he solves, a scientist creates two new ones. If this abstracted body of people deserve credit for every innovation under the sun because they carry the effete but prestigious title of scientist, then they deserve the blame.

>> No.17466436

>>17460844
is there anything gayer than science?

>> No.17466847

>>17461605
Because pop science is a faux intellectual trap that gets people to say the most retarded takes. muh "we all just atoms everything is pointless" people

And because actual science is really hard and it makes them realize "oh, I can't just make up any worldview and have it be equally valid as any other"

>> No.17466858

>>17461608
To make vaccines

>> No.17466873

>>17466436
OP

>> No.17468002

>>17460844
A book on insects

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>>17460844

>> No.17468711

>>17466299
Are those to blame on science or to blame on capitalism?

>> No.17468742

>>17461555
Based

>> No.17468896

>>17468711
science. Funny how they want the praise from making widgets which supposedly improve human life yet want to shift the blame of the downsides of their craft to capitalisms. A Bunch of egotistical people eggheads smelling their own farts about how smart they are.

>> No.17469125

>>17460844
Genuinely one of the worst threads I ever had the displeasure of reading. I can't believe how many got brainwashed by the /pol/ psyop. The worst part is I can't even tell if all of you are falseflagging to discredit /pol/ or if they've actually just achieved literal brain damage by this point.

>> No.17469317

Bernard Jaffe's Crucibles

>> No.17469323

>>17468896
i hope you're being ironic

>> No.17469330

>>17468711
This one knows too much

>> No.17469919

>>17461858
But if he was born and raised on a farm he would be fine

>> No.17469971

>>17468329
going to start reading it today. thanks

>> No.17470157

>>17461605
I don't hate the scientific method at all, nor do I hate it being used to understand the physical universe. what I do hate is taking science, a pure means, and saying that it is a moral end unto itself. this leads to several corollaries, and I hate all of them too. first I hate the idea that letting science run our lives will make our lives better; this is not true. second I hate the idea that since science (a pure means, with no moral stature), is "good", then the things resulting from science are also "good". this is nonsense; the work of evil retards will be evil and retarded, no matter how much science was used to do that work. third, I hate the condition that modern science has fallen into, specifically the crisis of replicability and publish-or-perish mindset. this occurred when science devolved from small communities of researchers seeking objective truths, into industrialized, entrepreneurial, techno-science. Democracy and Education is the worst book of all time, and John Dewey is a big fat faggot for writing it

>> No.17470259

>>17463617
Back to >>>/pol/ you go retard