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>good men killing bad men isn't immoral because souls are eternal
How can pacifists ever cope

>> No.17434551

>>17434517
FUUUCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!

>> No.17434559

>>17434517
By pointing out that it was Gandhi who freed India not some poo warlord.

>> No.17434573

>>17434559
>muh materialist dialectic interfering with the divine, again
Sven... get the shit cauldrons.

>> No.17434575

well. pack it up, folks. we just solved ethics.

>> No.17434594

>>17434517
>good men
are there good men in hindi myths? everyone just seem like an asshole and its all about raising your ass kissing power levels. pray hard enough and you will get invulnerability even if you are a literal demon. not to mention "good guys" giving out punishment for perceived slights

>> No.17434604

Good men killing bad men isn't immoral because i just want to fucking kill people

>> No.17434612

>>17434559
Gandhi openly talked about how pacificism was merely a tool because Hindus lacked the firearms necessary to murder every last Abr*hamic in India. Even MUH JEFFERSONIAN DEMOCRACY thing was literally just to make Americans feel queasy about being mean to the guy namedropping the Founding Fathers. Gandhi would have bathed in blood and nuclear hellfire if given the chance.

>>17434517
No, it's not immoral because you're a Kshatriya, your job is to kill Shudras for Brahmins, shut the fuck up and do your damn job.

>> No.17434624

>>17434517
Hindu culture is so sci-fi.

>> No.17434632

>>17434612
>kill Shudras for Brahmins
dumb larper

>> No.17434643

>>17434559
>marching with hundreds of thousands of people and preaching “peace”
Peace with a threat of force.

>> No.17434645

the caste system is the most arbitrary load of bullshit any culture has ever had to deal with, everything india produces has to be filtered through this made up oligarchy propaganda of wealthy priest families from 2500 years ago. it even spreads like cancer to indians living abroad, just wait and any rich emigrant indian will eventually tell you he is brahmin, right after a long speech about multiculturalism and progressivism.

there was already pushing back against the caste system in the upanishads, too bad the brahmins got control again and let india continue to stagnate. that's what made them weak enough for muslims and europeans to conquer them. it will happen again unless india overcomes it.

>> No.17434674

>>17434645
Good fuck poos I want them out of my country so I never have to think of them again while they wallow in self-inflicted powerlessness

>> No.17434677

>>17434612
This doesn't change that pacifism freed India in the slightest

>> No.17434686

>>17434677
This doesn't change the fact that violence, when possible, is superior.

>> No.17434699

>>17434686
It's not a fact you just want to larp as a badass on 4channel.

>> No.17434704

>>17434699
Nothing you've said has addresses anything anyone else has said, you may as well not even be in this thread at all.

>> No.17434705

>>17434612
>kill lower caste for higher caste
wtf, I thought hinduism was the religion of peace and love :(

>> No.17434707

>>17434677
Correct. Calling the British Empire's bluff was the tool that worked. If it would not have worked, it would not have been done. It does not work every time, as many attestations show. Gandhi made a clever decision.

>> No.17434714

>>17434704
I addressed op and responded to a reply. Seethe more.

>> No.17434719

>>17434714
Nothing you've said addressed OP, and when I pointed this out you started reeeing about being a badass or whatever.

>> No.17434722

>>17434719
>>>17434517 (OP) #
>By pointing out that it was Gandhi who freed India
Stupid inbred seek help

>> No.17434738

>>17434722
See >>17434686
You're still reeeing because you have no response other than insults. Again, you might as well not even be posting.

>> No.17434752

>>17434705
When Lord Indra made landfall on the Ganges and slaughtered six million Dasyu Aboriginals, his first words were "Namaste".

>> No.17434789

>>17434752
Based hakanposter

>> No.17434794

>>17434752
Thats funny, because if you bring up the Indo-European invasion to a regular indian he would deny it as a false theory or western conspiracy

>> No.17434859

>>17434559
And he was murdered for it by a militant Hindu

>> No.17434897

>>17434645
>there was already pushing back against the caste system in the upanishads
No there wasn't dummy, the Upanishads reinforce the caste system, they are the products of brahmins. The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad even has a section coping about how brahmins are subservient to the warrior caste even though they are meant to be superior

1.4.11
>Accordingly, at a royal anointing a Brahmin pays homage to a Kshatriya by prostrating himself. He extends this honor only to the ruling power. Now, the priestly power (brahman) is the womb of the ruling power. Therefore, even if a king should rise to the summit of power, it is to the priestly power that he returns in the end as to his own womb. So, one who hurts the latter harms his own womb and becomes so much the worse for harming someone better than him.

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>> No.17434949

>>17434517
It is arrogant to assume you are a "good man", and arrogance is a trait of bad men

>> No.17435113

>>17434949
An unwillingness to recognize good is evil

>> No.17435124

>>17434559
>praises Gandhi, an Indian
>makes fun of Indians

Classic racist integrity on full display here

>> No.17435210

>>17435124
You can praise a turd for its length and gurth but that doesn't make it anymore than a turd.

>> No.17435227

>>17434612
>Gandhi would have bathed in blood and nuclear hellfire if given the chance.
Those Civilization programmers knew some shit

>> No.17435279

>>17434517
Good men killing bad men are thieves, robbing bad men from redemption.

>> No.17436678

>>17435124
different website

>> No.17436746

>>17434517

the ethical problem is mainly kill or be killed, and rationality should allow you to choose the former without feeling completely guilty

>> No.17436815

>>17434517
Why is the best religion wasted on the most disgusting people?

>> No.17436857

>>17436815
According to Hinduism you are a casteless foreigner so I don't think it's the best one from your perspective.

>> No.17436893

>>17434645
The caste system was a racial system implemented by the Aryans who conquered India. They didn't want crazy jungle poos who worshipped women to take any power.

>> No.17436904

Why is Krishna so smug bros?

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>>17436893
Yeah that's why there are Dravidian Brahmins, good analysis

>> No.17436999

>>17434559
Freed them to industrialize, destroy their traditions, and pollute their country beyond recognition.
Huzzah for Ghandi!

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>>17436970
That was thousands of years ago nigga. Gradually they loosened the racial purity laws. There are very few Aryans left in India.

>> No.17437028

>>17436857
Good, not my point though.

>> No.17437034

>>17434949
No it's not. Stop being a Christcuck and see a therapist about your self-hatred.

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>>17436857
I got my R1A bitch, worship me.

>> No.17437123

Hinduism isn't a religion. It's just a blanket term that means indigenous practices of the people of the Indus river valley.

>> No.17437179

>>17434517
This is the only life to make penance as it can’t be done as a spirit. That’s why it’s bad. You cut somebody off from their only chance to be redeemed

>> No.17437417

>>17434594
"the ways of the dharma are difficult to ascertain" is what comes up a lot, unless you're explicitly told by an avatar what to do you can basically do what you want as long as you can defend it as upholding societal order

>> No.17437444

>>17436904
knowing that you're an incarnation of Mahavishnu/Brahman/the Universal Will will do that to you, I guess

>> No.17437475

>quit being a puss and go kill your dick cousins already
I get that they're family, but goddamn Arjuna they tried to trick you and your brothers and your wife into slavery and then exiled you into the forest for over a decade, have some standards dude