/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17396576]

My professor trashed my paper on Dante and the Comedy because it was a "reckless indulgence of ideological hysterics" that he didn't find to be "up to scholarly standards". I'm so sick of this catholic boomer. I'm thinking of getting his ass canceled.

I literally put forward a totally original and nuanced take on Dante's Comedy and he fails it because it doesn't align with the thousand other bland critical analyses of Dante and his own brand of religious preconceptions. What's the point of an English degree if I'm not allowed to contribute novel interpretations of the texts?

[Anonymous No.17396606]

>Why can't I just make up whatever I want and ignore facts and reality?

Let me guess... you're a Trump-voter too?

[Anonymous No.17396618]

>>17396576
What was your totally original and nuanced take on Dante's Comedy. Post essay.
And no, academia is not interested in novel interpretations. Do your close readings, write your essays, and get over the mistake you made in becoming an English Lit major.

[Anonymous No.17396631]

>>17396576
>My professor trashed my paper on Dante and the Comedy because it was a "reckless indulgence of ideological hysterics"
Based

[Anonymous No.17396639]

>>17396576
“Totally original” reads as “off in left-field”. If there’s no connection to previous academia, you’re merely writing a pop-analysis, not scholarly work

[Anonymous No.17396647]

Soon you'll have your title as a lit major and then you can release a book on the topic.

[Anonymous No.17396651]

>>17396618
>>17396618
I meticulously proved my thesis that the Comedy represents Dante's coming to terms with his own transgenderism and rejection of hetero-normativity.

I rigorously demonstrated how the content and structure of the Comedy expresses a slide away from CIS-centric modalities of thought (lost in the woods, mid way through the journey of life) via tracing lines of flight in a process of self-critique beginning with a recognition by Dante of his own oral fixation i.e. the oral morphology of Hell into which he enters.

The oral cavity of Hell and its preliminary torments which represent the coming into self-awareness of Dante's trans-proclivity convert themselves to the appearance of the phallic-structured Purgatorio which he must ascend, deconstructing various patriarchal moralities along the way, until finaly arriving in the ultimate sphere, Paradise, which climaxes in the absolute Yonic image of God-as-Female-Genitalia which grounds all subsequent ontology.

I also demonstrate how Virgil, who accompanies Dante through the phallocentric domains of Hell and Purgatory, is a parabolic externalization of his masculinity which cannot enter into the Absolute, into the divine realm of Paradise. For this, Dante must convert the representation of his psyche into the female figure which first prompted his transitional thoughts to begin with. The masculine nature fails to be a sufficient orientation and so he becomes a passivity in relation to this newly adopted femininity's activity. This demonstrates a taking on by Dante of the feminine identity that he has longed for ever since a young boy.

The fact that Dante perceives the Divine itself as an eternal yonic activity, as a deterritorialized neovagina which he wishes his own genitalia to become is almost too obvious to mention. The poem literally ends with him staring at the completion of his journey to becoming a transwoman.

[Anonymous No.17396654]

>edgy incel getting fucking owned by his teacher
I hope he reads out your faggy poems in front of the whole class as well

[Anonymous No.17396665]

>>17396651
I don’t believe you wrote the essay to the professor but I sincerely wish you did just to have your shitty interpretation spat upon.

[Anonymous No.17396670]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17396672]

>>17396651
Isn't that a very mainstream reading of the Comedy? What did your professor disagree with?

[Anonymous No.17396690]

>>17396651
So you ripped off Harlow et al and expect your professor to pat you on the back? Did you even cite them?

[Anonymous No.17396707]

>>17396576
>>17396651
>My professor trashed my paper on Dante and the Comedy
>I meticulously proved my thesis that the Comedy represents Dante's coming to terms with his own transgenderism and rejection of hetero-normativity
At least there is some hope for the education system

[Anonymous No.17396708]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17396738]

>>17396576
As someone who also majored in English, what did you expect?
English professors and English literature studies in general are all about fitting in. You have to think what everyone else thinks and write about what everyone else writes about. There is no room for original opinions or thoughts.
Get a PhD, become a professor and get tunure, then you can start thinking for yourself

[Anonymous No.17396764]

>>17396651
Were you thorough in your self-criticism? Maybe you didn't have enough words but, i think this could be a great paper of speculative analysis if you include enough room for disagreement.

[Anonymous No.17396779]

>>17396738
Not OP but as a philosophy student i just want to get a nice title and get out so i don't get consumed by the mug

[Anonymous No.17396783]

>>17396651
You might be baiting with this mega-gay shit but you did a lot of research for those buzzwords and I'll give you props for that.

[Anonymous No.17396798]

>>17396576
why don’t you just show us your paper??

[Anonymous No.17396805]

Going into academia is peak midwit

[Anonymous No.17396815]

>>17396651
>deterritorialized neovagina

[Anonymous No.17396842]

>>17396576
So, the professor is actually doing his job seriously and evaluates literary interpretation by its faithfilness to the text instead of pretending all interpretations are equally valid?

[Anonymous No.17396848]

>>17396606
Cringe

[Anonymous No.17396858]

>>17396639
That's what I hate about academia and what turned me off from wanting to pursue a PhD. You have to fit in and aren't allowed to have original ideas and takes. If you don't fit the mold then you'll be ostracized and your career either ended or your advancement halted

[Anonymous No.17396865]

>>17396779
>going to school for 10 years to get a PhD just to never teach or do research
What would you do, write a book?

[Anonymous No.17396868]

>>17396651
Are you an undergrad? This seems like an essay written by someone who got lost in theory and decided to write about that through Dante's Inferno rather than interpret Dante's Inferno.

[Anonymous No.17396877]

>>17396651
kek

[Anonymous No.17396890]

>>17396651
Reading your post it's obvious you have actually researched this topic, which is really pathetic

[Anonymous No.17396893]

>>17396651
>I'm going to project my sexual deviancy onto an entirely non-related work and use this to make baseless conjectures on the author's unconscious desires to justify my beliefs about gender theory
prof just filtered you

[Anonymous No.17396895]

>>17396651
Kek

[Anonymous No.17396898]

>>17396651
Holy based, bait or not

[Anonymous No.17396902]

>>17396893
>trans people existing is deviant
Make like a tranny and kill yourself please thank you

[Anonymous No.17396904]

>>17396651
10/10 got me good.

[Anonymous No.17396909]

This is a GOOD troll thread, take notes.

[Anonymous No.17396912]

>>17396651
fantastic bait

[Anonymous No.17396922]

I chose a course of lectures on Hegel. The first paper assigned by Professor Rockmore was an analysis of a famous chapter in The Phenomenology of Mind in which Hegel examines the relationship between master and slave. I hoped to approach Hegel, and indeed all my studies in those early weeks of my first term, exactly the way such matters had been treated at the Vnukovo dinner table. Obviously none of our guests liked to be thought of as a learned bore, and consequently it was unimaginable that in the course of a conversation bubbling into the small hours, somebody would summarize a chapter from a book everyone else had read. I viewed the professor as my host, and the essay I submitted was intended to divert him by presenting Hegel as a slave to platitude, an antihero of thought, a man so wanting existential imagination that in a Napoleonic Europe steeped in serfdom he was unable to recognize serfdom as a reality transcending the insular concerns of an ambitious Privatdozent. Hegel’s idea that the slave enslaves the master, I reasoned, is not a paradox because in the broad historical context of universal servility it is sycophantic, as Proudhon’s idea that property is theft would not be a paradox in a society of thieves. As I wrote, I imagined Father and our guests, eviscerating an academician’s conceit here, taking a stab at a bureaucrat’s witticism there, Tsinandali flowing amid roars of laughter. I read the essay to Father over the telephone, adding news of this new university life of mine, which I imagined as a continuation of and perhaps even an improvement on the lost life of the Vnukovo enclave, a paradise perfected. The following week I came to class, expecting the thrill of violent conflict between parts of the truth, the thesis being that Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel was a celebrated philosopher and the antithesis, that this son of a Stuttgart government clerk led an intellectually sheltered existence. The dialectic, however, did not work out as I expected. ‘May I see you for a moment?’ said Professor Rockmore. I noticed red blotches on his face. He told me that he could not give my essay a mark, and that if I wanted to stay in his course I would have to rewrite it. ‘But, Mr Rockmore, this is what I think,’ I protested, ‘these are my thoughts on Hegel’s treatment of the subject.’ He referred me to my college Dean, who received me in the Gothic grandeur of his study. The Dean advised me to withdraw from the course, explaining that it was for advanced students and closed to freshmen anyway. I have been strictly reared, as Mark Twain used to joke, but if it had not been so dark and solemn and awful there in that vast room, I believe I should have said something which could not be put into a Sunday-school book without injuring the sale of it.

[Anonymous No.17396924]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17396929]

>>17396922
With a sinking heart I realized that the faux pas I had made was not unlike that of a tramp barging in on a ladies’ circle evening devoted to problems of the homeless. This Shavian dramatization aside, suppose philosophy were a science, like mathematics or chemistry, and a drunken beggar barged in to disrupt a university lecture on metal ethoxides with his ideas about ethanol and its applications. On the other hand, it would never have occurred to me to disrupt Professor Rockmore’s course in this way if the subject discussed was symbolic logic, or any branch of philosophy that borders on mathematics. I remembered that Mill, in his discussions of intellectual freedom, specifically used mathematics as an example of an exact science ‘where there is nothing at all to be said on the wrong side of the question’ in contrast to ‘every subject on which difference of opinion is possible’ and, in Mill’s view, essential to what makes a freethinker’s life worth living. Yet the subject under discussion was not Hegel’s logic but his view of slavery, a subject upon the stark reality of which Mill began reflecting wile the Jena timeserver was still alive. Besides, Hegel’s dialectical vision of the world process added a new dimension to Leibniz’s optimistic myopia, and while I considered myself no more competent to discuss Hegel’s logic than Leibniz’s mathematics, I failed to see why discussion of a subject like slavery by the former should be closed to literary intrusion when, in the case of the latter, such an intrusion had produced Candide. I then approached several of the students attending the unfortunate course of lectures, none of them, admittedly, a fellow freshman. Many were even bearded, after the Young Hegelian fashion of Professor Rockmore himself. One student essay from the unfortunate week was finally produced, complete with a top mark and the professor’s comments, whereupon, with the pain that I can only compare to that of a forcibly extracted illusion, I discovered that the bearded essayist had done just what schoolchildren do the world over, namely, repeated Hegel’s argument paraphrastically, just as if it had been the proof of a Euclidean theorem or the tale of a big bad wolf called Sein.
----
Andrei Navrozov in Gingerbread Race.

[Anonymous No.17396938]

>>17396764
I feel like I did. For instance, the close of my paper went into how the historical circumstances, technological limitations, and social constraints of Dante's time prevented him from ever being able to actualize this trans-identity, and so this necessitated that if such a drive really did exist in Dante (which I feel to have aptly proved) it would have had to remain purely speculative and cloaked in metaphor. I left ample room for opposition to my views given the lack of any possible empirical verification and paucity of personal accounts that would corroborate my thesis, but also pushed to demonstrate that such proofs in cases as these are secondary and that the best source for such psychological content would be the art produced by the psyche in question, especially given the historical climate which Dante is situated in.

This is why I feel my challenge to the parochial narratives traditionally chained to the Comedy and Dante deserves more than the flippant dismissal it received.

[Anonymous No.17396954]

>>17396651
Masterfully done, Master Baiter.

[Anonymous No.17396988]

>>17396651
Yeah, this is bait, but I laughed.
A "tip" to you, sir.

[Anonymous No.17397006]

>>17396938
>>17396651
simply glorious

[Anonymous No.17397011]

>>17396938
desu your professor is just bluepilled by the dimiurge and doesn't know sophia

[Anonymous No.17397060]

So the professor was based all along?

[Anonymous No.17397135]

>>17396902
>deviating from your gender-essence isn't deviant

[Anonymous No.17397266]

>>17396651

10/10 great bait, I didn't expect a full coherent allegory

[Anonymous No.17397291]

>>17396651
Based

[Anonymous No.17397358]

>>17396651
Damn, that's a lot of buzzwords. A lot of words to say nothing at all, like most academic drivel

[Anonymous No.17397371]

>>17396651
put me in the screencap

[Anonymous No.17397383]

>>17396651
Obvious bait, but decently funny I guess.
7/10.

[Anonymous No.17397849]

>>17396576
>I'm thinking of getting his ass canceled.
Back to twitter you go!

[Anonymous No.17397860]

>>17396576
>I'm thinking of getting his ass canceled.
cringe and tiktokpilled

[Anonymous No.17397897]

>>17396902

Technically you are correct, transgenderism isn't just a deviation, but a degenerescence. A fag doesn't lose the ability to breed because he just got sucked by a dude, but you guys willingly destroy yourselves without any gains whatsoever. Pure madness.

[Anonymous No.17397942]

>>17396651
You're trolling, but I have no doubt that some "academic"-type out there is trying to argue something exactly like this. That is the real tragedy here.

[Anonymous No.17398175]

>>17396651
(YOU)

[Anonymous No.17398468]

>>17396651
Absolutely legendary

[Anonymous No.17398474]

>>17396651
>that first sentence
It's already full-grown leviathan bait, I can't imagine this thread getting less than 100 replies unless you abandon it halfway through.

[Anonymous No.17398479]

>>17396606
What a basic minded cringe boy you are

[Anonymous No.17398511]

>>17396922
>>17396929
p good, saves this thread from being merely about op flexing his (admittedly considerable) baiting powers.

[Anonymous No.17398540]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17398576]

>>17396651
Cringe

[Anonymous No.17398902]

>>17396651
The bait is obvious, but it's still good. Well done.

[Anonymous No.17398917]

>>17396651
A high-quality bait, but an obvious one nonetheless

[Anonymous No.17398941]

>>17396651
Refined bait my good sir

[Anonymous No.17399384]

>>17396651
Great bait my man

[Anonymous No.17399406]

>>17396651
overrated bait, tl;dr lol

[Anonymous No.17399414]

>>17396651
Decent bait.

[Anonymous No.17399446]

>>17396651

I laughed so hard I had to go upstairs so I wouldn't wake up the house

[Anonymous No.17399523]

>>17396651
Im just glad i was here to witness your ascent OP

[Anonymous No.17399566]

but why does he where the funny hat?

[Anonymous No.17399605]

>>17396606
rent free

[Anonymous No.17399619]

>>17396651
For (You)

[Anonymous No.17399628]

>>17396651
Have a you

[Anonymous No.17400331]

>>17396576
>I'm so sick of this catholic boomer. I'm thinking of getting his ass canceled.
Instead of acting like a childish brat that REEEEs endlessly as soon as he's not getting getting something to go his way, how about e-mailing your professor in order to defend your paper and to talk things out with him?

>I literally put forward a totally original and nuanced take on Dante's Comedy and he fails it because it doesn't align with the thousand other bland critical analyses of Dante and his own brand of religious preconceptions.
Aren't you a bit too full of yourself here, friendo? Sure seems like your head is far up your ass.

[Anonymous No.17400336]

>>17396651
Fooled me/10

[Anonymous No.17400340]

>>17396576
>I literally put forward a totally original and nuanced take on Dante's Comedy
show us

[Anonymous No.17400349]

>>17396651
awesome troll man look how many (you)s

[Anonymous No.17400419]

>>17396651
Now this is based

[Anonymous No.17400543]

>>17396576
>I'm so sick of this catholic boomer.

[Anonymous No.17400562]

>>17396651
what starts out as parody often becomes reality, unfortunately

[Anonymous No.17400563]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17400955]

>>17396576
Btfo

[Anonymous No.17401440]

>>17396651
I give you an A for bait though

[Anonymous No.17402193]

>>17396651
>I also demonstrate how Virgil, who accompanies Dante through the phallocentric domains of Hell and Purgatory, is a parabolic externalization of his masculinity which cannot enter into the Absolute, into the divine realm of Paradise. For this, Dante must convert the representation of his psyche into the female figure which first prompted his transitional thoughts to begin with. The masculine nature fails to be a sufficient orientation and so he becomes a passivity in relation to this newly adopted femininity's activity. This demonstrates a taking on by Dante of the feminine identity that he has longed for ever since a young boy.

I'm convinced

[Anonymous No.17402648]

>>17396576
> I'm thinking of getting his ass canceled.
You're a homosexual, and your mind jumping to this is evidence enough.

[Anonymous No.17402851]

>>17396576
based teacher

[Anonymous No.17402881]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17402919]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17402996]

>>17396651
We do a little trolling. It's called we do a little trolling

[Anonymous No.17403093]

>>17396576
>Divine Comedy
>Catholic
ngmi

[Anonymous No.17403127]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17403135]

>>17396651

[Anonymous No.17403164]

>>17396651
put me in the cap as well. This was brilliant

[Anonymous No.17403170]

>>17396651
that makes sense

[Anonymous No.17403196]

>>17396576
Lmao trashing a work so much superior to anything he ever created must give him a proper boner. Ironically, that is the contemporary ideological hysterics.

[Anonymous No.17403209]

>>17396651
fucking lol put me in the screencap

[Anonymous No.17403521]

>>17396651
Nice troll desu

[Anonymous No.17403540]

>>17396651
idk if I want to be in the screencap bros...

[Anonymous No.17403555]

>>17403540
>tfw everyone thinks you were trolling

[Anonymous No.17403757]

>>17396651
Put me in the screencap

[Anonymous No.17403985]

legendary thread

put me in the cap

[Anonymous No.17404007]

>>17396651
Amazing setup

[Anonymous No.17404024]

>>17396651
saved for posterity

[Anonymous No.17404098]

This is bait written by someone who is well educated in q***r theory.
Masterful, but whether it's based or not, I'm torn.

[Anonymous No.17404154]

>>17396815
>almost too obvious to mention

[Anonymous No.17404227]

Fuck you OP. It's my first time reading this and I'm only on Canto X and this is going to pop into my head for the rest of the Comedy.

[Anonymous No.17404411]

>>17396651
On Sunday, when I am in Mass, I will pray to God that he sends down St. Michael the Archangel to take you out of your miserable, disorder existence. The Professor is based.

[Anonymous No.17404524]

Too lazy to search--70% chance this is pasta'd from an actual JSTOR abstract

[Anonymous No.17404721]

>>17396651
yep ill be in the screencap thanks

[Anonymous No.17405087]

>>17396576
post it here then so we can judge for ourselves. Otherwise, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.17405112]

>>17396576
>>17396651
If this is a bit, it’s majestic. New copypasta for the /lit/ humor annals either way. HAD you couched this more explicitly in Hegel/Lacan framework context, you would have a leg to stand on with Der Boomer — you didn’t define the jargon in a hand holding way (its garbage, but interestingly grotesque in its consistency) — this is how you pitch a paper/grade review/revision. Alternatively request one of your tranny adjacent critical theory profs and broach the issue. Also DILATE AND SEETHE LMAO

In all seriousness Boomer academics are there for the gatekeeping like it was a sport. Play the game or drown. You can still do wild shit if you do due diligence

[Anonymous No.17405125]

>>17396815
If he wants to pull daggers, tracing the etymology of “ideologue” back to de Stutt (liberalism/capitalism) and Bonaparte (‘proto-fascism’) would be a fine way to go full retard

[Anonymous No.17405152]

>>17396651
Bitch, post the whole thing in a pastebin

[Anonymous No.17405164]

>>17396893
This thread is an obvious troll, but if it was not professor would be based.

[Anonymous No.17405172]

Kek

[Anonymous No.17405273]

is this meant to be funny?

[Anonymous No.17405273,1]

>>17396651
what's the difference between an English lit major and a bench?

the bench can support a family of 4.