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17369746 No.17369746 [Reply] [Original]

Bros... why did god leave man with free will if he knew all that will happen afterwards?

Which Christian books deal with this aspect?

>> No.17371224

>>17369746

The purpose of life is to become something that is biologically able to dwell in Gods presence. Paul talks about how we need to “Become a new creature in Christ”. This sentiment is repeated over and over again.God is not actually able to do anything he wants and is bound by laws. Lucifer wanted us all to be forced to be righteous but God knew that we would never learn if that was the case so he has to allow us to choose on our own or no genuine transformation would occur. The downside is that some of us won’t make it. Nothing you can do about that and nothing God can do about that.

In the OT Moses says if God appeared to you you would burn up in a flash which is also evidence that you need to be transformed.

Think of yourself as a fruit. If you are diseased you are not fit to be consumed because you would make the being that partakes of you unhealthy. Same with the Kingdom of God, you need to allow Christ to wash you clean or else being in Gods presence would be like a fish being tossed into dry land.

He can’t force you do transform. You have to want it and actively use Christ’s grace.

>> No.17371521

>>17369746
Free Will is a meme, theologically speaking. Read Anthony Collins' "A Philosophical Inquiry Concerning Human Liberty"

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>>17369746
Omniscience doesnt mean knowing the unknowable.
Like making square circles, some things are logical impossibilities.

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17372281

>>17369746
Man chose free will himself.

>> No.17372983

perhaps Von Balthasar's Theo-Drama

>> No.17372984

>>17369746
the fall of the devil

>> No.17373050

>>17371224
>Lucifer wanted us all to be forced to be righteous but God knew that we would never learn if that was the case so he has to allow us to choose on our own or no genuine transformation would occur
So this entire thing we're experiencing is basically Satan trying to prove God wrong?

>> No.17373099

>>17371224
Based

>> No.17373294

>>17371224
>God is not actually able to do anything he wants and is bound by laws.
What is the specific scriptural basis for this idea?

>> No.17373947

>>17373294
The evidence is in how he deals with man. Of god is perfect, he’s perfectly efficient. Is that’s the case he should be able to just come down and zap everyone into s righteous state. The fact that he doesn’t do that is evidence is the structure that he’s working within. He has to become part mortal to make contact with fallen man, if he’s perfect than this is the most efficient way, if this is the most efficient way than he cannot just come down and zap us into perfection.

>> No.17373952

>>17373050
Yes. But he can’t. This is also why communism is so evil. It’s literally Satans plan for man enacted in the form of human government.