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Everything is insanity, at least if you live in a first world country like the USA. It doesn't seem like there's anything worth respecting anymore, and things get increasingly more stupid and chaotic. How do I have hope for the future? Do I need to get off the internet?

>> No.17323325

>>17323321
Yes

>> No.17323336

>>17323321
Explain the stupidity. Neoliberalism is the smartest form of governance in all of history. We've literally solved politics

>> No.17323353

Life is surreal, and that is funny.

Find the surreal in life and laugh with it.

If you are suffering, you are taking yourself too seriously.

>> No.17323392

“reading” is not scrolling through the news

>> No.17323416

>>17323321
>Do I need to get off the internet?
If reading made you hate the world then getting off the internet might alleviate it but you'll still be aware of the fundamental rot which carries on regardless

>> No.17323425

>>17323321
I dunno. But everything feels fake and artificial. I mainly stick to things that catch my eye.

>> No.17323430

>>17323321
lmao this nigga readin the culture of critique

>> No.17323439

Im a midwit and im at a loss on how to fix this mess desu.
But the people in charge are not.
Fuck you people in charge for making me stress out.

>> No.17323455

>>17323439
You should respect the quietly functional people that are around you (either in your family or your workplace or your church or your community). I guarantee they are there. Get to know them and befriend them and try to model yourself off of them. If there is nothing in this world worth respecting then it is up to us to make something respectable, and that something need not be grand or enormous; it is fine if it is small.

>> No.17323465

>>17323321
You're not reading the right stuff if you think the world was ever good.

>> No.17323505

>>17323439
Mind what you can mind, pursue excellence in it, and try to fit it into larger problems and causes if you can

>> No.17323547

>>17323439
If only you knew what goes on in the minds of "the people in charge"

>> No.17323550

>>17323465
>>17323430
>>17323392
That's the thing. I precisely read good books from over 60 years ago. Everyone seems more tight-knit, more eloquent, more passionate. I am aware there are good people out there but I don't know where to find them.

>> No.17323585

>>17323465
>things aren't X and even if they were that's a good thing and/or were always X
it's all so tiresome and jewish

>> No.17323610

>>17323550
You've hit a checkpoint anon, you've realized how fucked shit is these days and cant go back. You can find good people who are just hard workers or have an honest to god passion but it wont be easy, most people will be vapid, empty, mindless, and soulless.. The only hope I can give you is that the current way things are is very close to crashing and breaking down, so there will be a lot of chaos but people after us may have more to live and work for. Dont go mad with this just accept it as the world you unfortunately live in and choose your friends and battles accordingly

>> No.17323678

>>17323550
>from over 60 years ago
Ah yes, the beautiful old days of the Vietnam War and the two world wars. I seriously wish I could throw all you LARPers into a time machine so you finally shut the fuck up and realize you're romanticizing a past you never lived and never will.

>> No.17323719

>>17323678
at least back then everyone had a purpose and there was something monumental happening that challenged you and the common man to do something for their country, left wing or right. He isn't romanticizing the past hes making the point that today is devoid of any purpose and most people are just drones, the past had their cases of this Im sure but today things just get worse and worse in this regard, nobody is happy nobody has a genuinely fulfilling life anymore, we're basically in purgatory

>> No.17323771

>>17323719
>at least back then everyone had a purpose and there was something monumental happening that challenged you and the common man to do something for their country
Please tell me this is bait. Please.
>He isn't romanticizing the past
Claiming everything was better during fucking World War 2 isn't romanticizing the past at all, yes.
>people are just drones
People not doing the things you like doesn't mean they're drones.
>the past had their cases of this Im sure but today things just get worse and worse in this regard
No, you are literally correct, it was always like this and will always be like this. The average person is the average person for a reason.
>nobody is happy
Projection.
>nobody has a genuinely fulfilling life anymore,
Projection + what is fulfilling for you isn't necessarily for others.
>we're basically in purgatory
If by purgatory you mean we're living in relative peace, then sure.

>> No.17323809

>>17323771
relative peace is relative.
People burning stuff, mass shootings, black people and white people fighting each other on the streets and then the grand finale people storming government buildings...
Thanks Trump.

>> No.17323829

>>17323771
>WAAAAAH STOP CRITICISING NEOLIBERALISM WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT GDP AND TACO TRUCKS!!!!!!

>> No.17323837

>>17323829
Neoliberalism isn't perfect but it's by far the best thing we have so far. I'm sorry if it hurts your tankie/nazi feelings, the world isn't that simple.

>> No.17323852

(((>>17323837)))

>> No.17323867

>>17323837
The only "good" thing about neoliberalism is how it uses your ability to criticise it to deflect all criticism

>> No.17323874

>>17323852
>if you don't agree with me you're a jew
I thought jews wanted communism for total control of humanity though? Can you /pol/tards make up your mind for once?
>>17323867
Whatever helps you cope I guess.

>> No.17323875

>>17323867
KEK anon, things change, it is just that they take time. That is why I would never bother doing politics, I'm too fucking impatient with everything.

>> No.17323897

>>17323874
>you see by conflating your opinions with the opinions of another anonymous poster who clearly disagrees with you, I have made you look unreasonable and stupid and me intellectually superior ehehehehe

>> No.17323906

>>17323874
>I thought jews wanted communism for total control of humanity though? Can you /pol/tards make up your mind for once?
hegelian dialectic

>> No.17323921

>>17323837
You are correct in saying that neoliberalism is a political philosophy that is virtually immune to internal forces, such a shifts in electorate opinions, etc. However, neoliberalism is very much susceptible to outside forces, and it is those outside forces that will spell our current world order's doom. One such threat is China, a quasi-fascist state that is proof that neoliberalism is not the only path to economic prosperity. The other, truly existential threat is climate change and associated natural crises, which will make the global economic stability neoliberalism depends on a thing of the past. In my mind, there is no escaping this second threat. Neoliberalism will hang itself with a rope it created. And you are right in saying that we may come to miss this system that did create peace/stability, but it is what it is.

>> No.17323932

>>17323875
Funny how all changes are slow until it comes to mass migration. Then the only slow change is getting it to stop.

>> No.17323941

>>17323932
I don't know, I don't live in the US. But immigrants are either super smart people doing specialized jobs, or one of those super poor illegals doing things that no one feels like doing. At least this is what people tell me in here.

>> No.17323942

>>17323921
>The other, truly existential threat is climate change and associated natural crises, which will make the global economic stability neoliberalism depends on a thing of the past.
Yep, climate change is most likely gonna fuck us all. For the anon that wanted his WW2, there you go. You now have a terrible thing to worry about and give your life purpose.

>> No.17323967

>>17323921
I wont miss neoliberalism at all or whatever we have now if it ever changes.
I want the state to control the economy and i want society to have control over women and i want all those who oppose that to be punished.
Thats what freedom sounds to me.

>> No.17323979

>>17323967
Well, I am betting you will get your wish. I am also willing to bet this reality will not be as pleasant as you think it will be.

>> No.17323985

>>17323967
wow these are evil opinions how could you

>> No.17323987

>>17323967
>it's another "incel wants to install fascism just so he can get laid" episode

>> No.17323990

>>17323941
>super poor illegals doing things that no one feels like doing
Poor illegals doing things that natives won't do because they can pay such low wages to illegal migrants who have no legal recourse or who rely on the job to remain in the country.

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17323994

>>17323321

>> No.17324005

>>17323585
you will never be white francis garcia de santis gonzalez

>> No.17324007

>>17323994
trulyyyy profound.......

>> No.17324008

>>17323994
Marx is exclusively quoted by the unintelligent.

>> No.17324013

>>17324008
lose weight fatass

>> No.17324014

>>17323321
>do i need to get off the internet?
absolutely. media is currently trying to to turn everyone against each other

>> No.17324017
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17324017

>>17324007
More of an inspirational

>>17324008
Not even a Marxist.
But your comment is a pseud’s.

>> No.17324023

>>17324017
campbell is cool. i'd suggest Jung if you liked him

>> No.17324030

>>17323321
The only fix after this is UBI or civil war. The modern day peasants have experienced first hand that they are mere pawns to be sacrificed.

>> No.17324046

>>17324008
>academics
>unintelligent
that's not how definitions work

>> No.17324060
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17324060

>>17324008
But I am very smart?

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17324155

>>17323719
>at least back then everyone had a purpose and there was something monumental happening that challenged you and the common man to do something for their country, left wing or right.
Stop coping with an idealized past that never existed and ACT you fucking retard.
If you truly believe what you say then you ARE in fact challenged to "do something for your country" precisely because you are acknowledging a supposed lack of something, and you bitching about it means there is in fact something for you to change.
But no, it's much simpler to just play the tragic prince part and look like a moron on /lit/ to get that rush of spleen flavoured dopamine, eh? Too tiring to actually go out there and do your part eh?
As if being so fucking pathetic as to base your identity and personal happiness around something as stupid as a country (which you don't even sincerely believe in, unlike many of your connationals) wasn't already a sign of being a failed normalfag, you just want somebody to tell you you're part of something and not totally useless at the end of the day.
>nobody is happy nobody has a genuinely fulfilling life anymore, we're basically in purgatory
Boo-fucking-hoo, "I'm miserable because of my self inflicted denial of happiness through echochambers so everyone is as miserable as I am", grow the fuck up and look around you, kid, get the fuck out of this place and do something with your life, learn a trade, talk to people, connect with others and all of a sudden you'll realize that things aren't that bad after all, that happiness isn't about fitting in with whatever bullshit memetic zeitgeist people peddle to you.
Bonus points: you also stop being a fucking failed normalfag poser on /lit/ and start reading for real and post less bullshit.

>> No.17324187

>>17323874
Neoliberalism is not communism. Why would you even think that? Historically, communist countries were closed off to international trade and neoliberalism promotes globalism, diversity, and international trade. Communism is not diverse and destroys it. Tell a communist you’re a Christian and it’s the gulag for you. Tell a neoliberal you’re a Christian and he will tell you as long you don’t kill non-Christians that’s cool by him.

>> No.17324215

>>17324187
I never said anything like that.
My point is that /pol/tards argue communism is pushed by jews because in the (stateless btw) communist utopia, the state would be controlled entirely by jews because communism is jewish and the poor white people would be enslaved. However /pol/tards also argue jews push neoliberalism because capitalism is jewish as well it seems.

>> No.17324288

>>17323321
Write a novel anon. Light the fire of civilization, art, and culture.

>> No.17324304

>>17323990
Well, that is not on me, anon. And it is better than in here. There are literally immigrants that are kept as slaves in Brazil. Against the law, but still.

>> No.17324317

>>17323321
>and things get increasingly more stupid and chaotic
this is so true and things just get worse as you get older. its like it never stops there is always a new low some how some way it gets worse

>> No.17324334

>>17323321
>mercantile cooler elite as slovenly as the plebs they abjure
>throw billions after soft power social engineering and population control
>”If I make everyone else sick and retarded, I’ll be like unto a God by comparison!”
The lack of Darwinian selection pressures commensurate with ‘in a state of nature’ or something approximating it in contemporary civilization has lead to this. If you don’t furnish these yourselves and future proof against the inevitable hellmouth these types will lead unthinking normies down, then all is truly lost.

>> No.17324342

>>17323867
kek

>> No.17324351

>>17324304
based Brazil

>> No.17324385

>>17323321
>retard has access to any book ever written, for free, within seconds, and he's complaining
modern times are best times. go die of cholera in a turnip field.

>> No.17324403

>>17324385
This, unironically. My father had to drive 60 km to buy his books. And the library store wasn't even that great. 100km to the closest university book shop. I can just download whatever the fuck I feel like and whatever. Takes less than a minute.

>> No.17324411

>>17324403
book store*