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[Anonymous No.17279816]

What are STEM-approved philosophers? Reading philosophers that were debunked by science feels like a waste of time desu

[Anonymous No.17279821]

>>17279816
It is not, anon. It is not. Think about existentialism and you might understand.

[Anonymous No.17279825]

>debunked by science

[Anonymous No.17279830]

>>17279816
Einstein loved Schopenhauer

[Anonymous No.17279840]

>>17279821
>>17279825
Try jumping off a bridge and confirm gravity and science isn't real then, chuds. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.17279858]

>>17279840
You need to be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.17279864]

>>17279840
>Try jumping off a bridge and confirm gravity and science isn't real then, chuds. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.17279872]

Cioran, Zappfe, Becker
philosophical pessimism and existential nihilism _is_ scientific fact, deduced with logic

[Anonymous No.17279876]

>>17279840
Look, anon. What I'm talking about is that how you think about situations influence a lot on how you deal with them. That is why Stoicism is a thing in the first place, there are some limits to what you can do, but they are 'bendable' as you gain knowledge.

[Anonymous No.17279882]

>>17279816
Yeah sure, read Feyerabend, he was a 'philosopher of science'

[Anonymous No.17279970]

>>17279816
Socrates was pretty cool. Vindicated by history when he hypothesized genetics and then suggested that the state should breed humans like dogs in order to create the ultimate warrior. But it sounds like you want some gay materialists or something.

[Anonymous No.17279976]

>>17279816
Well Richard Dawkings of course have you ever heard of the God Delusion by chance?

[Anonymous No.17280002]

>>17279816
Or Aristotle, who forms the foundation of western science (and governments). He also offered a very strong defense for slavery and pointed out that gay people are often made gay by cause of predation by older men. He discovered integral calculus 2 millennia before Leibniz or Newton and wrote over his work with a cooking recipe because it was just that unimportant to him. Very smart guy.

[Anonymous No.17280006]

>>17279825
>Nothing is false.
>Everything is prohibited.

[Anonymous No.17280022]

>>17279876 I'm the quoted anon
And I used to be very anti-religion until I realized that. Now I understand that people can be unironically better believing in something that is probably false.

[Anonymous No.17280023]

>>17280002
What's up with you postmodern neofascists sucking other men's cocks so enthusiastically?

[Anonymous No.17280038]

>>17280023
>postmodern neofascists
Not sure what that is anon. I'm just trying to give you book recommendations. Maybe you would prefer HG Wells. He made a lot of cool suggestions like forcing women into higher education so that they would never have time to have children.

[Anonymous No.17280043]

>>17279816
Contemporary analytic philosophy.

John Searle (really great), Daniel Dennett, Colin McGinn, Paul and Patricia Churchland, Saul Kripke, Derek Parfit, John Rawls, Robert Nozick, Thomas Nagel, David Chalmers...

[Anonymous No.17280061]

>>17280038
have you ever read a room of ones one by Verginia Woolf? read that for fun once because it is only like a 120 pages and she basically comes across as a turbo lesbian blaming all her problems on men. I found it quite funny

[Anonymous No.17280062]

>>17280043

[Anonymous No.17280071]

>>17279840
>same exact argument as john locke
Are you an angloid by any chance?

[Anonymous No.17280073]

>>17280061
>a room of ones own
No but sounds like a fun read. Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.17280077]

Godel

[Anonymous No.17280085]

>>17280038
You celebrate arguing in bad faith, using whatever rhetorical tactic allows you to evade all epistemic responsibility. You "debate" to defeat an opponent, not to pursue the truth of matters. You're in good company on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.17280097]

>>17280085
>Gradually, I came to hate them

[Anonymous No.17280101]

>>17280085
The guy didn't even make an argument, do you guys have like a button in your head that lights up and tells you to spew 'bad faith' whenever someone says something you don't like

[Anonymous No.17280103]

>>17280097
That reminds me of an other great book!

[Anonymous No.17280106]

>>17280062
Is this real lmao

[Anonymous No.17280111]

>>17279816
>Philosophy debunked by science
It's like saying mathematics debunked by engineering, geometry debunked by carpentry etc. In other words, you are reddit-tier stupid and I don't expect you to understand.

[Anonymous No.17280278]

>>17280085

[Anonymous No.17280552]

I wish OP would come back. I wasn't finished.

[Anonymous No.17280847]

>>17280552
I'm here.
>>17280111
All of these are variations of mathematics. Mathematics come from science and science comes from philosophy. However mathematics have advanced so much that they control science, and the same goes for science over philosophy. You can't just simply philosophize that the sun won't come up tomorrow. We have evidence that it will. Philosophy's job is to develop the blind spots in science and theorize about what we don't know but it can never contradict what is currently scientifically factual.

[Anonymous No.17280864]

>>17279825

[Anonymous No.17281348]

>>17280002
>He discovered integral calculus 2 millennia before Leibniz or Newton and wrote over his work with a cooking recipe because it was just that unimportant to him.
Is there a source for this claim? It sounds actually interesting.

[Anonymous No.17281479]

>>17281348

Hard to believe that. Common belief is that Aristotle was bad at mathematics. That is why he didnt get to lead Akademeia and developed metaphysics separate from maths.

[Anonymous No.17281487]

>>17279816
science has been disproven by philosophy

[Anonymous No.17281499]

Modern-day science is about empirical quantitative relations between things in a empirical rule, so it answers to different set of questions than philosophy.

[Anonymous No.17281515]

>>17279816
Le Basilisk Man