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Why does it makes leftists seethe?

>> No.17264366

>>17264360
It doesn’t.

>> No.17264369

Anyone using it specifically to attack a modern political group is cringe.

>> No.17264372

>>17264366
it empowers them, gives them a model to work with.

>> No.17264371

>>17264360
I don't know but the amount of political shit going on in murrica lately (who gives a damn?) and this genre fiction shit popping up is making me seethe as well

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>>17264360
Why must you continually bait

>> No.17264380

>>17264372
Orwell was a leftist. As an aside, regardless of whether this is intentional shitposting or not, you are an idiot.

>> No.17264382

>>17264366
Weird because I see constant brigades against it, this week has been pretty bad but in general leftists love to shit on it constantly and downplay it's significance.

>> No.17264383

>>17264369
Why not, it applies pretty well to the modern day cultural left in the Anglosphere.

>> No.17264384

>>17264360
it doesnt

>> No.17264387

>>17264380
so you don't see big brother as model for big tech companies working to destroy Emmanuel Goldstein? sorry, I mean bonald brumpf

>> No.17264388

>>17264382
>in general leftists love to shit on it constantly and downplay it's significance
I have never seen an example of this. Both anti-Stalinist left-wingers and right-wing libertarian types try to claim Orwell.

>> No.17264394

Which leftists?
It is just an anti-totalitarian book, regimes of which can take leftist or rightist overtones.
Liberals for example do not 'seethe' over 1984, and they can be characterized as leftist.
Even far-leftist groups like certain anarchists do not 'seethe' over 1984.

>> No.17264400

>>17264387
>equating all-encompassing capitalist entities with “leftism”
>equating a character based on Trotsky with a retarded, inarticulate pseudo-monarch
No, as it happens I don’t agree with your analysis.

>> No.17264401

>>17264360
This book was last year's meme, /pol/tard. What >>17264369 says is the truth. You should've enjoyed it as a story about a forbidden love. The only thing that's vaguely politically interesting about it is Goldstein's book and the explanation that the Inner Party guy gives later (forgot his name, O'Brien I think?).
Also, mandatory when dealing with reddit rightists:
ORWELL WAS A SOCIALIST.

>> No.17264402

>>17264360
I somtimes try to imagine the zoomer behind these posts. His would be an r_donald emigree, he is sure the election wasstolen and really hates big tech. He lives in a flyover state and has suffered from some mild teasing in regards to his worsening hairline.
Does he just get the current /pol/ zietgiest and tailr shit bait threads along the lines of the /pol/ talking points of the day?
Why?
Does he think he actually chnages minds like this?
Should he just get full throttle hormone replacement, take the plunge and dilate?
talk to me man

>> No.17264417

>>17264400
But, my dear trip-fag, all-encompassing capitalist entities are currently colluding together to accomplish the destruction of an enemy to the leftist hegemony - bonald brumpf.

>i disagree with your analysis

feel free, however, the bare idea of Emmanuel Goldstein as the eternal enemy of the people regardless of who he was or what he has actually done is very 1:1 with Donald Trump

>> No.17264426

>>17264402
I try to imagine discord trannies who shit on people who see the truth. What is it that makes them seethe about Donald Trump? What policies has Trump actually enacted that legitimizes the knee-jerk vitriol that has been taught to them by twitter?

I don't think there's much going on in that head of yours.

>> No.17264444

>>17264426
why you making this thread my angry "man"?

you think the truth is "1984 upsets left wingers"
is that it?

>> No.17264447

>>17264417
Trump is unpopular because he’s a vulgar fool, not because he’s some kind of underdog à la Trotsky. Read a biography of Trotsky before you start making these unbelievably misinformed analogies.

Also, you apparently aren’t aware that “leftism” is not a catch-all term for things you dislike. You don’t understand politics, you don’t understand history and you don’t understand Orwell. At very least read “Homage to Catalonia” before you start trying to work out the more directly allegorical elements of “1984.”

>> No.17264471

First they came for the holocaust deniers, and I said nothing
Then they came for the racists, and I said nothing
Then they came for the 9/11 truthers, and I said nothing
Then they came for the reptilian truthers, and I said nothing
Then they came for the illuminati truthers, and I said nothing
Then they came for the Donald subreddit, and I said nothing
Then they came for the incels, and I said nothing
Then they came for Infowars, and I said nothing
Then they came for the COVID truthers, and I said nothing
Then they came for the President, and I said nothing

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up for free speech. Share this if you wish to defend freedom of speech and thought against 1984 George Soros tyranny

>> No.17264488

>>17264426
have you ever read it? Have you ever read a history ever?
Trying to deconstruct a book, especially a cult classic like 1984 , into your black and white, media saturated view of a world you have never bothered to understand, in order to what - influence people?
Why do you even bother?

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>>17264471
so not only 1984 stumped you - but vote counting too? its sage at this point isnt it?

>> No.17264573

>>17264360
It exposes their hypocrisy which they fail to reconcile with the moral high ground they believe to have

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>the internet literally on fire with right wingers saying 1984
>why leftists mad
Right wingers fought for a whole century for corporations to do whatever they want with the government not interfering. They get what they deserve now.

Repubs had 4 years to break big tech up. They will never do it. Again, get what you deserve.

leftists get banned and make their own websites. Even fucking chapo lib central made their own website. But the right wing movement is now just millions of karens saying they have to be heard and the manager of free spech must listen.

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>orwellian

>> No.17264867

George Orwell would totally be a maga bro calling Twitter Stalinists for sure. He was a noted conservative of course.

>> No.17264874

>>17264867
this is obv sarcastic

>> No.17264875

>>17264400
Tripfag, this is not a result of "runaway capitalism" or anything like that. Much of the same bans would have happened even if Twitter was run by a government bureaucracy, which it halfway is anyway. Please don't act like the civil service is somehow separate from big business, or that nationalization would make this system more accountable.

>>17264447
Trump being a vulgar fool contributes to his unpopularity, but yes, he is an underdog, in that most of the establishment, including the media, are against him. Obviously, that contributes to his unpopularity as well. Tripfag.

>>17264719
Neocons being spineless hypocrites notwithstanding, I don't know why you think Republicans are the ones responsible for big tech's power, when big tech funded and ran most Democratic's campaigns this cycle.

Also
>leftists get banned and make their own websites
In case you're not trolling, there are very many right-wing websites (e.g. the one that most r/the_Donald users migrated to) that have just had their hosting shut down, etc. Hell, even basic bitch boomer gun discussion forums have been getting the axe

>> No.17264878

>>17264360
Everyone dislikes authority and censorship on paper until it hits the opposing side. Then it's all well and good

>> No.17264883

>>17264471
>>17264493
Good job trolling each other, retards.

>> No.17264884

>>17264875
Trump is an incompetent blowhard who fucked up the COVID crisis. He also emboldened racist extremists and schizophrenic conspiracy theorists with propaganda, lies, and dogwhistles for 4 years making the country worse.

>> No.17264886

>>17264875
>replying to tripcucks
ngmi

>> No.17264887

>>17264874
Yes.

>> No.17264888

>>17264366
Kinda this, most of people end up reading.

>>17264360
Orwell is normie literature, OP. I'm Brazilian and my sister had to read Animal Farm at school.

>> No.17264895

>>17264360
it doesnt. orwell is well regarded

>> No.17264906

>>17264884
Did you actually read my post or are you some sort of Markov chain that accidentally got pointed at this thread

>> No.17264930

>>17264360
boring

>> No.17264984

>>17264875
>I don't know why you think Republicans are the ones responsible for big tech's power
Repubs have been the free market guys. Dems are the regulation ones. guys like reagan made this possible. Everything is privatised to hell and back.

Also big tech also gives money to repubs too. Trump just gave the medal of freedom to a guy who received money from facebook. Republicans made this because any regulation is communism.

>> No.17265024

Fahrenheit 451 and We make modern day people seethe more than 1984.

>> No.17265105

>>17264360
both kinds of liberals like to imagine that it makes leftists seethe

>> No.17265318

It doesn’t. Although, anyone who uses ‘Orwellian’ unironically to describe vaguely repressive phenomena needs to proceed past an 8th grade reading level.

>> No.17266080

>>17264447
Homage to Catalonia is embarrassing

>> No.17266090

>>17266080
How so?

>> No.17266098

>>17264884
Go back to twitter you gimp

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>>17264360
For me it's Orwell, Rand, Peterson and Rowling

>> No.17267015

>>17264383
surely its bait

>> No.17267079

>I can’t break the TOS, just like Györg Earhole predicted!!1

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>>17264360
It doesn't. It was literally written by a leftist.

>> No.17268566

bamp