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Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:04:55 2021 No.17237830 [Reply] [Original]

You don't believe that Homer ACTUALLY existed, do you /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:06:13 2021 No.17237836 >>17237830 Who cares other than GRST academics?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:06:54 2021 No.17237842 >>17237830 Indeed, it is difficult to imagine a mortal man like you and me creating such beautiful works. I would not be surprised at all if it turned out that the Homeric poems were given to us by gods themselves.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:15:36 2021 No.17237887 >>17237830 who wrote those poems?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:22:19 2021 No.17237914 >>17237887 A computer

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:25:58 2021 No.17237929 >>17237830 Most evidence points to him having existed and perfected a centuries old oral tradition in conjunction with the development of written language in Greece.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:27:23 2021 No.17237935 >>17237887 A scribe under a nomme de plume.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:30:52 2021 No.17237947 >>17237887 many people did

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:50:01 2021 No.17238033 >>17237830 Does it matter?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:50:41 2021 No.17238039 >>17237887 tradition

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:10:01 2021 No.17238140

>>17237929
yeah, I like Knox's interpretation from the Fagles translation intro. Homer was one of many bards who created and sang songs about Troy and the gods, and he saw that writing gave him the potential to create a single song of greater scope than ever before

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:11:34 2021 No.17238146 >>17237935 Whether Homer’s real name was homer or not, isn’t all that matters was that a man lived who told these stories?

>>	I hate women Sat Jan 9 00:12:03 2021 No.17238150 >>17238140 How can he see when he is blind?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:12:53 2021 No.17238157 >>17238150 sorry, he smelled that writing gave him the potential to create a single song of greater scope than ever before.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:14:17 2021 No.17238161 You know who never existed? Socrates. >Plato >in a culture obsessed with mazes and riddles >literally admitted that lying to the plebs is necessary >invents precursor to Christ via the character Socrates

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 01:23:42 2021 No.17238522 >>17237887 my cock

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 01:27:14 2021 No.17238541 >>17237935 Don't use idioms that you can't write properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:25:12 2021 No.17238750 >>17237842 My thoughts exactly >>17238157 Makes sense desu. When you lose one sense, the others become more powerful than you can even imagine. I can't smell anything for instance, yet I can easily see up to 20 yards farther than any normal man

Blarty Hongo !WegkZP4tiw Sat Jan 9 02:32:17 2021 No.17238783 [DELETED]

>>17237842
>I would not be surprised at all if it turned out that the Homeric poems were given to us by gods themselves.
If one of the gods wrote those poems, we'd know:

>And then Apollo walked in, most glorious of the Olympians
>Arrayed in plendor, the god of the silver bow
>He was followed by Ares, well-known to be a fat homo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:38:09 2021 No.17238801 >>17238783 Honestly not far off. >Athena, the smartest and most badass of the gods, did all the work and also Poseidon is a dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:39:12 2021 No.17238805 >>17238801 Poseidon was cool and helped the greeks fuck up the trojans when hera distracted zeus.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:40:15 2021 No.17238810

>>17237830
I don't believe you exist. I mean that unironically. There is nothing original in your character, you are just some proxy for some other, more popular manufactured product who himself models his character based on advertising metrics and trends. You're as real any throwaway YA novel protagonist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:41:22 2021 No.17238821 >>17238161 >implying Socrates didn't invent Plato

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:47:47 2021 No.17238862 >>17238810 deep, bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:52:18 2021 No.17238883 >>17238821 >implying we all aren't just one among the billions of positions Gorgias takes, constantly arguing in his head

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:53:07 2021 No.17238888 File: 90 KB, 960x960, ErJ4ecjXEAETPlI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17238862 sweet meme bro. who'd you pick it off of?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:03:04 2021 No.17238936 >>17238883 based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:04:41 2021 No.17238947 >>17237830 WE wrote them anon. Every time we read the Iliad or Odyssey, we write it. Realizing that you are Homer is the endgame of lit crit

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:07:03 2021 No.17238959
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>>17237830
Fuck you OP
Homer existed.
Pythagoras existed.
Lycurgus existed.
Socrates existed.
Diogenese existed.
Romulus and Remus existed.
Jesus Christ, David, Moses, etc. existed.
Laozi, Sun Tzu, Zhuangzi, etc. existed.
King Authur, Robin Hood, etc. existed.
Shakespeare existed (and wrote most of his works by himself unless stated otherwise).
Stop doubting people's existence, it's obvious they existed.
Simple as.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:09:13 2021 No.17238975 >>17238959 >he still hasn't understood that the story of Romulus and Remus was about the guilt in building civilization and thinks it's about two reall ass dudes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:13:24 2021 No.17239001 File: 8 KB, 253x200, download (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17238975 >i-it's all just a metaphor

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:16:37 2021 No.17239014 >>17239001 Metaphors aren't falsehoods you illiterate dweeb, they are bridges to the truth. Reality and fiction binded. It wouldn't have been created without the specific conditions that the story emerged in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:19:06 2021 No.17239028 >>17239014 I don't give a fuck you high and mighty bitchy fucking faggot. It's real and you don't need to moan on about "muh metaphors" like a bitch in heat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:20:57 2021 No.17239035 >>17239028 Faggot you can't do this, I won't allow it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:23:59 2021 No.17239048 >>17239035 >I won't allow it. Too bad, I just did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:24:33 2021 No.17239049 File: 266 KB, 521x937, BasedDepartment.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17239001 >>17239028

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:26:05 2021 No.17239054 >>17239048 Nah I'll piss and shit don't do it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:26:55 2021 No.17239058 >>17239054 >I'll piss and shit based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:28:03 2021 No.17239062 File: 344 KB, 2304x3500, ddmcdr5-d973f8f4-425c-4c29-9ff0-a7ded220a78a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17239058

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:27:47 2021 No.17239727 >>17238888 Based, Hitler quads proves it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:30:11 2021 No.17239746 >>17237830 I hope none of you guys took The Prince seriously. It was meant to satirize the proto-fascist despots of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:30:58 2021 No.17239751 >>17237830 Do you believe The Iliad just materialized from thin air or something? Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:35:30 2021 No.17239780 File: 6 KB, 211x239, 1604056147234.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17237830 >Reeeeeeeeee Homer was actually a woman from sicilyyyyyy!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:36:57 2021 No.17239790 File: 15 KB, 400x400, X9Nbgdof_400x400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17237830 Why yes i believe Homer was actually the might Odysseus himself, how could you tell?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 09:37:37 2021 No.17240518 File: 109 KB, 1000x1500, ion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17237842 A man composing unparalleled works out of his own genius, and the gods moving the artisans hands, are one and the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 09:44:16 2021 No.17240561 >>17237887 a group of women

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 12:47:19 2021 No.17241638 >>17237887 Christopher Marlowe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 13:34:35 2021 No.17242037 >>17238161 Plato was a fictional character made up by Aristotle

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 13:37:25 2021 No.17242058 >>17237830 He existed but the stories as we know them today aren't his. They evolved in scope and detail over hundreds years between the time they were first orated and first written.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:14:24 2021 No.17242327 >>17237887 it's a history unironically. Poetry is how we remembered things before writing, that's why it records the names of everyone who was there, the size of their armies, the names and ancestry of everyone who dies etc

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