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Why do non-dualists seethe if you call them monist/pantheist? Saying non-dualism isn't pantheism doesn't save your sloppy metaphysics from the exact same faults.

>> No.17232434

>>17232429
Because non-dualists are rooted in a mire of materialism, hence why it appeals to godless materialistic white people.

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>> No.17232643

>>17232429
Monism, pantheism are not even synonymous to begin with. I'd explain the difference but you seem like a brainlet so I won't bother. Read more and come back in a few years.

>> No.17232654

>>17232643
It's like tranny pronouns at this point with the non-dualists.

>> No.17232671

>>17232446
what is polytheism? rudementary pantheism with aspects of monism (the gods are still considered somewhat separated, but they are also not absolute or have a nature of universalism)

>> No.17232699

>>17232429
They are not the same. In m monism/pantheism, God forms the actual substance of physical objects. In Advaita non-dualism, Brahman Himself does not form the substance of objects

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>>17232446
So what you mean to say, is that theism is the only original thesis in all of human history. (I'm referring to the fact that the diagram contains two bubbles instead of one for all you smoothbrains)

>> No.17232727

>>17232699
Same faults, same consequences.

>> No.17232746

>>17232727
such as?

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>>17232446
Classical theism is better

>> No.17233050

>>17232434
>Because non-dualists are rooted in a mire of materialism
???

>> No.17233238

>>17232429
Don't Guenontards take the natural world to be caused by God ala Plotinus style emanation? I always thought the "non-dualism" shtick simply refers to the classic doctrine of divine simplicity, that there is no duality in God, not that there is no distinction between God and everything else.

>> No.17233256

>>17232699
That's not what monism is you brainlet. Stop talking about things you're clueless on.

>> No.17233312

>>17233256
That post wasn't an exact definition of monism, but the post was just identifying a difference between it and some eastern non-dualism. In a religious monism or pantheism, there is typically an entity or God which forms the cosmos and objects out of itself, and in this status as objects they don't cease to be God.

>> No.17233370

>>17232429
>>17232727
Your thread has been up for about 3 hours now and you still haven't elaborated on the supposed "faults" in non-dualist metaphysics that you are alleging despite being asked about them.