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>didn't believe in evolution
And I'm supposed to take this guy seriously?

>> No.17205047

>theory that just so happens to reinforce anglo specific political aims

>> No.17205057

>no evidence of speciation
Evolution is a joke

>> No.17205066

>>17205027
>>>/sci/

>> No.17205074

>>17205027
If evolution is real, then explain to me how consciousness can arise from inert matter.

>> No.17205085

>>17205074
Conscious is fundamental and ubiquitous in the physical world. Panpsychism.

>> No.17205087

>>17205074
more importantly, how the HECK did spiders learn to build webs?

>> No.17205089

>>17205074
i mean isnt there a good adaptive explanation for this? monkeys be problem solving n sheeet

>> No.17205090

>>17205027
if evolution is real then explain why OP has persisted in being a massive faggot since time immemorial

>> No.17205092

>>17205066
Evolution was a philosophical concept long before it was adopted by bugman scientists.

>> No.17205103

>>17205087
Ummm they just started shitting out webs one day because...natural selection???

>> No.17205113

>>17205103
very very based

>> No.17205114

>>17205027
>Muh metaphysics

Also known as cope

>> No.17205118

>>17205103
This is what science niggers actually believe

>> No.17205129

>>17205114
denying metaphysics is what coping evolutionists do kek

>> No.17205130

>>17205103
>>17205113
>>17205118
>We don't know how something happened
>Therefore GOD DONE DID IT

Mmmmmmmmkay

>> No.17205134

Hasten the day /lit/ moves past Guenon and into real occult philosophy.

>> No.17205136

>>17205129
I don't think you understand what metaphysics are, its certainly not muh magic

>> No.17205139

>>17205130
>we don't know how something happened
>therefore IT HAPPENED FOR AN EVOLUTIONARY ADVANTAGE

>> No.17205143
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>>17205130
>GOD DONE DID IT
As opposed to randomly producing webs out of your ass and making complex webs to capture insects in some sort of creature that barely has any complex thought? Yes, God is more rational

>> No.17205146

>>17205134
show me the way master

>> No.17205150

>>17205136
>says metaphysics is cope
>durr you don't understand metaphysics like me
quite the brainlet we have on our hands here
probably an evolutionist

>> No.17205153

>>17205139
>>17205143
Kek. Let me explain how your thought process works.

>Find something
>Not understand how it works
>Anxiety kicks in
>>I NEED TO KNOW AAAAAAAH
>>Existential anxiety increses
>>>Make up some bullshit to cope
Just say you don't know, and let it be at that. You are nowhere closer to the truth by spouting ''MUH METAPHYSICS''

>> No.17205154

>>17205146
Rudolf Steiner.

>> No.17205158
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17205158

Man, like the Universe, is a fabric of determination and indetermination; the latter stemming from the Infinite and the former from the Absolute.

It may be objected that our preceding considerations on the human phenomenon are not an exposition of anthropology properly so called, since we offer no information on the "natural history" of man nor a fortiori on his biological origin, and so on. Now such is not our intention; we do not wish to deal with factors that escape our experience, and we are very far from accepting the "stopgap" theory of transformist evolutionism. Original man was not a simian being barely capable of speaking and standing upright; he was a quasi-immaterial being enclosed in an aura still celestial, but deposited on earth; an aura similar to the "chariot of fire" of Elijah or the "cloud" that enveloped Christ's ascension. That is to say, our conception of the origin of mankind is based on the doctrine of the projection of the archetypes ab intra; thus our position is that of classical emanationism - in the Neoplatonic or gnostic sense of the term - which avoids the pitfall of anthropomorphism while agreeing with the theological conception of creatio ex nihilo. Evolutionism is the very negation of the archetypes and consequently of the divine Intellect; it is therefore the negation of an entire dimension of the real, namely that of form, of the static, of the immutable; concretely speaking, it is as if one wished to make a fabric of the wefts only, omitting the warps.

Quite obviously, an anthropology is not complete if it does not take into account the spiritual dimension of man and therefore factors such as the eschatological hierarchy which we have just spoken, or of the analogous social functions. To say homo sapiens, is to say Homo religiosus; there is no man without God.

>> No.17205163

>>17205153
t. believes fish can emerge from the water, suddenly breath air and turn into humans due to the invisible hand of natural selection

>> No.17205169

>>17205153
>he's now an armchair psychologist
oh nonono fedoras are delusional

>> No.17205171

>>17205163
t. doesn't know so he makes up some shit to appease his existential dread

Its Ok not to have the answers, it is more virtous to admit that than to just believe in non-sense to cope

>> No.17205172

>>17205153
>>17205130
This nigga believes his grandfather was an amoeba lol

>> No.17205178

>>17205171
>wahhh I'm afraid of death because I have demons in my head therefore everyone else is like me
seek a priest

>> No.17205179

>>17205172
Yes, and clearly you are the missing link

>> No.17205182

>>17205171
t. denies God out of pride
The greatest of all copes

>> No.17205184

>>17205087
>>17205089
Okay, so how animals go from not building shit to building shit, and did we go from building shit to innovating and improving on building shit?

>> No.17205192

>>17205184
Uhhhh evolution, duh!!!
*provides hundreds of ad hoc examples*

>> No.17205196

>>17205158
Based schuonposter

>> No.17205199

>>17205182
>>17205178
Kek, I am going to pretend this thread is satire and leave it at that

>> No.17205204

>>17205199
Cope however you wish my friend
just remember that God is always watching

>> No.17205205

>>17205199
Cope

>> No.17205210

>>17205204
>God is always watching
Yes, watching children die of cancer and little girls get raped, kek
But its Ok, God works in mysterious ways OooOooOoOh

>> No.17205218

>>17205074
you mean how can matter respond to other matter?

>> No.17205222

>>17205210
>doesn't know evil entered the world due to adam and eve sinning
you've got some studying to do

>> No.17205223

The mutation math doesn’t add up. And how are we not corrupted yet? Do we not constantly build up negative mutations with each generation? How do they disappear?

>> No.17205227

>>17205222
>Doesn't know God created a universe where Adam and Eve sinning was inevitable
You've got a brain to start using

>> No.17205229

>>17205210
And here find more proof that atheists are just angry with God. You are too prideful. Repent

>> No.17205235

>>17205229
Kek, I think you just have unresolved daddy issues

>> No.17205238

>>17205218
>Literally think rocks can move on their own

>> No.17205245

>>17205227
>was inevitable
Read Bohme

>> No.17205246

>>17205235
>says the manchild rebelling against the creator

>> No.17205247

>>17205074
If evolution is not real, then explain how consciousness can arise from inert matter
>inb4 ''GOD''

>> No.17205254

>>17205238
ever heard of chemical reactions?

>> No.17205259

>>17205246
I am not revealing against anyone but your retarded dogma, I do believe in God, but not yours, and my defintion of god is not a flying sky daddy watching you jack off, nerd

>> No.17205265

>>17205254
That's just material determinism and is beside the point. That still doesn't explain how consciousness came into existence.

>> No.17205273

>>17205265
Thing is just saying ''God'' doesn't answer that question either

>> No.17205274

>>17205259
>flying sky daddy
And the atheist dons his fedora at last.

>> No.17205275

>>17205259
Yikes I bet it’s some form of cringe pantheism to satisfy your ego to claim that you are God

>> No.17205282

>>17205273
So, we agree to disagree, then. I'm fine with that.

>> No.17205283

>>17205265
Consciousness is an illusion. It’s a sky daddy-lover myth

>> No.17205286

>>17205283
>Consciousness is an illusion
who is perceiving the illusion?

>> No.17205290

>>17205047
this. evolution is a metaphysical concept not a scientific one.

>> No.17205296

>>17205275
This. Even a flower has more dignity than a cringe atheist because it know where to point itself for sunlight.

>> No.17205297

>>17205275
>>17205274
No, my definition of God is the abstracted concept of movement towards something, purpose so to speak. The same way a flower goes from a seed into a flower, or a worm into a butterfly, I believe god to be the abstraction that act, but applied to the entirely of the universe and every single thing that exists.

But no, I don't believe there's some dude up there watching me jack off nor do I buy your Bible, Quran, Book of the death, Satanist bible or your Judism. Its obvious that's just a mix of life past experiences from people alongside attempts to control population to however was ruling at the time

>> No.17205298

>>17205286
No one

>> No.17205301
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17205301

>>17205296
based anon

>> No.17205302

>>17205286
self-identity

>> No.17205303

>>17205297
>poetic atheism
Even worse lol

>> No.17205316

>>17205303
Nothing would really change if I said God done did it, I wouldn't be any closer to understanding how anything works
So why would I?

>> No.17205319

>>17205297
>being this pozzed by Anglo pantheism

>> No.17205328

>>17205319
So are you really, every culture has had their gods and explanations for existence, all of them believed to be right, you are no difference to the Aztecs that believed in sacrificing virgins to the god of the rain, nor am I.

>> No.17205329

>>17205297
anglos have poisoned you

>> No.17205334

>>17205297
*tips fedora*

>> No.17205339

>>17205328
>lesser demons and beings can be compared to the one Creator of the universe
Lol

>> No.17205345

>>17205328
>every culture has had their gods and explanations for existence
yes, and?
>all of them believed to be right
you believe you're right as well, but you're wrong just like them.

>> No.17205349

>>17205328
>you are no difference to the Aztecs that believed in sacrificing virgins to the god of the rain, nor am I.
Aztecs do not have any sort of metaphysical or theological nuance, they are savages.

>> No.17205350

>>17205339
>>17205329
>>17205334
What makes you create a thread to try to convince people of your believes?
Is it not left to people to find their way to god anyway?

>> No.17205353

>>17205350
Seething

>> No.17205356

>>17205350
what makes you come into a thread to argue?

>> No.17205363

>>17205027
evolution relies on natural selection and natural selection relies on evolution. this is a problem even evolutionists admit

>> No.17205364

>>17205247
If math is real, then explain what 1 + 1 is
>inb4 "2"

>> No.17205374

>>17205349
How can you confidentlty say that when the vast majority of their writing were burned?

>> No.17205376

>>17205345
>you believe you're right as well, but you're wrong just like them.
Maybe, but I am willing to admit that.
Are you willing to admit you might be wrong too?

>> No.17205381

>>17205349
Such a childishly ignorant and arrogant take you can't even take it seriously.

>> No.17205382

>>17205363
Wrong again retard

>> No.17205384

>>17205356
To understand other's people perspective and compare it to my own, seek truth/attention/validation
etc

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>>17205027
he probably looked at himself in the mirror and thought 'nah it can't be real'

>> No.17205399

>>17205134
Show us

>> No.17205405

>>17205382
how is it wrong then friend? that is pointed out explicitly by evolutionists as C. Leon Harris mentions in his book Evolution. mind you leon harris is an evolutionist

>> No.17205407

>>17205074
No one knows, you stupid tool. That's not the point.

>> No.17205417

>>17205134
I'll make it easier for you.
>>>/x/

>> No.17205433

>>17205398
lmao

>> No.17205434

>>17205384
Judging by your posting in here, you reek of demonic influence. I'm not even trolling. Go speak to a priest at the very least. I've had some awful experiences with demons.

>> No.17205442

>>17205417
/x/ is unironically worse than /lit/ when it comes to esoterics

>> No.17205459

>>17205442
Then, quit your bitching.

>> No.17205463

>>17205459
About what?

>> No.17205474

for evolution to be true it requires natural selection to be true
for natural selection to be true it requires evolution to be true

see how that's circular reasoning? the only way out is for a non darwinistic approach to evolution. and there are many

>> No.17205483

>>17205474
>non darwinistic approach to evolution
skip all of this and come to realize that "evolution" is just descent from primordial man (perfect being) to what we have today (lesser)

>> No.17205489

>>17205483
i did skip. i dropped out of two degrees related to biology

>> No.17205510

>>17205463
About the lack of discussion of esoterism on this board. If it's clearly better here, then stop complaining.

>> No.17205517

>>17205489
kek

>> No.17205523

>>17205483
take your meds

>> No.17205525

>>17205523
Take your redpills, hylic.

>> No.17205538

>>17205510
>how dare you want higher quality discussion

>> No.17205568

>>17205474
>Natural selection is the differential survival and reproduction of individuals due to differences in phenotype
Animals of the same species breed and die at varying rates due to their inherited characteristics. How does it require evolution to exist? Do you deny that there is variation within a single species that effects their chances of survival?

>> No.17205614

>>17205027
>>didn't believe in evolution
Thats the reason to take him seriously

>> No.17205633

>>17205474
>see how that's circular reasoning?
reminds me of the good ol' "physics explains everything, which we know because anything physics cannot explain does not exist, which we know because whatever exists must be explicable by physics, which we know because physics explains everything."

>> No.17205637
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17205637

do you think he believes in evolution

>> No.17205665

>>17205633
nigger, physics is a field that uses math to record what we observe, so how the fuck does it not explain things we observed and recorded? if i fuck your mother and my 10 inch cock and she moaned like a whore and i record the whole shit, do you think the video doesn't explain what a whore your mother is?

>> No.17205682

>>17205047
>anglo specific
kek, he's a Huguenot you mong.

>> No.17205702

>>17205637
do you think I care if he does

>> No.17205714

>>17205702
Who the fuck are you

>> No.17205717

>>17205714
I am you but of darker skin tone

>> No.17205719

>>17205717
Youre a nig?

>> No.17205720

>>17205714
Someone who doesn't fall for appeal to authority arguments

>> No.17205750

>/lit/ ACTUALLY doesn't understand the theory of evolution
Holy shit, can't believe I share a board with you Philistines... what's next, will you take up arms against gravity? Perhaps crusade to restore the heliocentric model? I'm laughing my ass off thinking about how utterly scientifically illiterate you all are. Facebook boomer tier understanding of science, how disgraceful

>> No.17205772

>>17205750
gravity doesn't exist
yes i do follow the heliocentric model

>> No.17205775

>>17205637
He’s a nietzschean, so definitely.

>> No.17205776

>>17205772
i meant geocentric.

>> No.17206062 [DELETED] 

>>17205297
"In the beginning wasthe Word, andthe Wordwas withGod, andthe WordwasGod"

>> No.17206090

>>17205297

"In the beginning wasthe Word, andthe Wordwas withGod, andthe WordwasGod." John 1 KJV bible

>God=flying sky daddy
>"word"was God

>> No.17206165

I was expecting to read some interesting thoughts about how evolution isn't correct or accurate, instead I got a couple Christians with room temperature IQ and the most superficial knowledge of the theory they have refuted.

>> No.17206204

>>17205027
>kant, Plato, socrates,Aristotle, Spinoza, Descartes, plotinus
>didnt believe in evolution

How am I supposed to take them seriously

>> No.17206263

>>17206204
exactly, they're pseuds

>> No.17206353

>>17206204
Aristotle also didn't believe that water is H20 because the molecular structure of water wasn't known back then. Guenon lived when Darwinnism was known to be true but he didn't believe it because it contradicted certain aspects of his metaphysics.
Perennialism is such a fucking joke, literally Platonism for science denying retards

>> No.17206383

Put it this way: There is just as much scientific evidence for devolution as evolution (and really, there is not much in the way of comprehensive evidence, we only have small snippets of fossils from various eras). You don't have to deny speciation to accept this.

>> No.17206390

>>17205750
Einstein already debunked heliocentrism. It's now only relative whether you consider the Sun orbits the Earth or the other way around. The former position requires more complex maths, that's it.