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Yes /lit/bros, it's THIS thread again. Every day until you sterilise yourselves!

>> No.17204929

>>17204923
I'm gonna knock my gf up just to annoy you

>> No.17204944

>>17204923
>no response to ethical egoism
>ignores the possibility of future heaven/utopia
>relies on a double standard: absence of pain is good, but absence of pleasure is neutral. Either both are neutral or neither are.
>denies choice of existence or non-existence
>is only a problem for a small minority of people anyway
>non-existence must not be that much greater since they don’t kill themselves
yeah, I’m thinking it’s cringe

>> No.17204968

>>17204923
I gotta say based.

>> No.17204991

I already had multiple kids with two women. I now see this as a mistake, and yet I would probably have more. To not breed is to deny yourself a key part of the human experience. It's an act of evil though. I do not want to be alive. Maybe it's like being in a prison, and creating new tiny prisoners who depend on you until they are full grown prisoners.

>>17204944
>ethical egoism
Tell me more.

>> No.17205001

>>17204991
You can also just embrace being evil, better to reign in hell and all that...

>> No.17205002

>>17204944
op btfo

>> No.17205009

>>17204991
>I already had multiple kids with two women.
Sodomite. Opinion discarded.

>> No.17205021

>>17205009
....anon, I'd be fascinated to know, what do you think the word "sodomite" means?

>> No.17205025

>>17204991
>Tell me more.
so long as you benefit by having children, then the decision is justified. It follows that you can’t tell me what I should do based on your preferences, because it may be that I actually want children, whereas you don’t. Your preference is not an objective morality

>> No.17205048

>>17205021
I can tell you're a sodomite by what you posted. Don't try to weasel your way out.

>> No.17205067

>>17205048
Not even the same guy, it's just that "sodomite" usually has something to do with anal sex, which is kind of the opposite of the reproductive situation he's describing

>> No.17205083

>>17204923
I read this book before having children and decided to do so

Sorry incels

>> No.17205084

>>17205067
If he practices polyamory, it's almost certain that he's a sodomite.

>> No.17205091

>>17205084
This is fallacious

>> No.17205105

>>17204923
Lmao

>> No.17205109

>>17205025
I see, so according rational egoism, anti-natalism only works if there is no benefit to having children, or if the negatives outweighs the positives. This being the case, do tell me why it would be more beneficial to have children.

>> No.17205126

>>17205109
>do tell me why it would be more beneficial to have children.
I don’t care about persuading you. You don’t always need a rational justification for your actions, anyway. It’s like veganism. If eating meat bothers you, then so be it. But it doesn’t bother me, so I will eat meat. I only care that you don’t enforce your personal preferences as if they are objectively right

>> No.17205336

>>17205126
Be as it may, if it isn't a bother, I would like to ask you a question; if a thing doesn't bother you, do you welcome it?

>> No.17205368

>>17205336
If I have to be clearer: I believe my life is better with meat. So I eat meat. Nutrition, taste, convenience, etc. For others, the emotional baggage related to eating meat outweighs any benefits, and so they prefer not to eat meat.

>> No.17205391
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17205391

>yes, 2 children please

>> No.17205415

>>17205368
Curious, you used a rationale for why you eat meat, and also one for why others don't eat meat. Yet you still say that there is no need for rational justification. Perhaps you could explain further?

>> No.17205452

>>17205415
Example: “eating animals makes me feel bad! Therefore I won’t eat animals.” This is really an argument from emotion. But personal choices are founded on emotions and desires anyway, so it’s the same things that guide us to act. “Rationality” is just a thought process that tries to align us with what we crave irrationally. To say something like “having children is wrong because it increases suffering” is simply incomplete. All human judgments are ultimately based in non-reason.

>> No.17205592

>>17205091
>ethical egoism
Nah that’s just keyed

>> No.17205612

>>17205452
Why do we feel bad in general?

>> No.17205641

>>17205612
I don’t know. This is how I am, so I’m forced to live according to my nature. I don’t need to justify to myself why I act according to my preferences. I prefer to do what I prefer. This is the irrationality of human behavior. As with all things, eventually there is no explanation that isn’t circular or axiomatic

>> No.17205686

Have a kid coming in late Feb. Seethe

>> No.17205688

>>17205641
Don't we feel bad because we perceive ourselves as lacking in some regard?

>> No.17205706

>>17204923
Why not just kill yourself then?

>> No.17205713

Tbh I don't even entertain antinatilist thought ... Call it cope all you like but it just seems so miserable and insipid

>> No.17205715

>>17205688
generally it’s a sign that our experience could be better, yes.

>> No.17205724

>>17205715
And naturally we would prefer to feel good, that is to say, content and whole.

>> No.17205918

>>17204923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eouUgNQPYQ&t=104s

How does it feel knowing that a pseud like sam harris so easily refuted your idol?

>> No.17205926

>>17204944
Based and redpilled egoist who actually lives unlike hypocritical antinatal faggolas

>> No.17205931

>>17205706
in order to do so he'd actually have to believe what he was saying.

>> No.17205935

>>17204944
well that was easy

>> No.17205975

>>17205706
Better to have never been than to kill myself. Besides, suicide is a painful business, and I do not wish to cause suffering.

>> No.17206042

>>17205706
I remember one ricecel anti-natard philosopher who did just that.

>> No.17206069

>>17205975
cope

>> No.17206100

>>17205975
>suicide is a painful

>> No.17206111

>>17205975
more painful than existing?