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[Anonymous No.17161961]

If the Absolute was perfect in its eternity, unity, and immobile what tf is the point of the material world/reality? Why was it created?

[Anonymous No.17161968]

Don't you mean
>If God is perfect in his eternity, unity, and morality, what tf was the point of creating a world without these things?

[Anonymous No.17162052]

It is a test of our spirit before we go on to our next existence

[Anonymous No.17162058]

>>17162052
Why would we need to test our spirit if our prior condition as part of the Absolute was already perfect and unified?

[Anonymous No.17162086]

>>17161961
>Why was it created?

Because picrel is an absolute retard who can't do shit right.

[Anonymous No.17162130]

>>17162058
So we can learn more of the Absolute, of course

[Anonymous No.17162150]

>>17161961
The answer that makes the most sense to me is that it is simply God or the Absolute’s inherent nature to do so

[Anonymous No.17162155]

>>17161961
Free will, which enables the spontaneous evolution of sentient beings whose souls are of extreme value.

[Anonymous No.17162197]

>>17162130
Why would we need to learn more about the Absolute if, once we were with it, our knowledge was perfect and unified within it?
>>17162150
If multiplicity and division is in the Absolute's/God's nature, why bother with trying to reconcile with it/him or understand it?
>>17162155
Extreme value relative to what? If the place from which souls emerged was already perfect, eternal, and self-reliant of what use would a soul inculcated in the material world be?

[Anonymous No.17162206]

>>17162086
The truth is gnosticism and Manichaeism emerged as pure cope to reconcile the inconsistencies in Plotinus' and the Neo-Platonic worldview.

[Anonymous No.17162360]

Kolakowski talks about this in the first chapter of Main Currents of Marxism, it was refreshing to see someone point it out for a change

[Anonymous No.17162502]

>>17161961
We can't know that bro, if you are that eager to find out then make sure you rejoin the Absolute after you die and you will figure it out.

[Anonymous No.17163097]

>>17161961
"perfect" could just mean everything that can exist does exist, and as such, this exists

[Anonymous No.17163227]

>>17162360
Plotinus is discussed in a text on Marxism? Why?

[Anonymous No.17163582]

>>17163227
Kolakowski talks about the origins of Marxism, which includes Neoplatonism, Eriugena, Mysticism etc.

>>17162360
This is a really bad objection to neoplatonism, seeing as it has already been answered. CF Ibn Arabi

[Anonymous No.17163598]

>>17161961
The material world/reality was "created" out of necessity for it is the nature of the Absolute to do so just as it is the nature of light to illuminate.

[Anonymous No.17163612]

>>17161961
From what I understand, the material world is not the result of the voluntary creation, as in "The One created the material world to achieve this or that goal".
Rather the material world is a direct consequence of the One. Basically, the One's activity "overflows" from its domains, which gives rise multipliticity (the Intellect, the world of Ideas), this multiplicity overflows too, giving rise to the cosmic soul, and this soul overflows too, giving rise to the material world.
This "overflowing" is described by the doctrine of double effect (you can google it), which guarantees that everything derives from the One, without attributing this causality directly to the One (since the One in itself is not affected in any concievable way by this causal process).

[Anonymous No.17163615]

>>17161968
Based Augustine poster.

[Anonymous No.17163646]

>>17162206

[Anonymous No.17163751]

Individuation is Difference.
Sameness in difference, difference in sameness.